[Python-Dev] Are "Batteries Included" still a Good Thing? [was: It's now time to deprecate the stdlib urllib module]

[Ethan Furman]

[apologies for the late post, just found this in my drafts folder]

On 2/7/22 12:49 AM, Stéfane Fermigier wrote:


3. Overall, I think the days where "battery included" was a positive argument 
are over


I strongly disagree.  Being able to download something and immediately get something to work and see results is hugely 
rewarding; on the other hand, having to research, find, compare & contrast available third-party modules (especially for 
new-comers) can be extremely discouraging.


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[Python-Dev] Changing unittest verbose output.

[Itay Yeshaya]

When running unittest with the -v flag, if a test has errors, and has a 
docstring, the test name is shown on one line, and the docstring is shown on 
the next line with the `ERROR` word.
For example:

./python.exe -m unittest -v Lib.test_verbose_error.randomTest
test_one (Lib.test_verbose_error.randomTest)
this is a doc string with helpful info ... ERROR

==
ERROR: test_one (Lib.test_verbose_error.randomTest)
this is a doc string with helpful info
--
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/workspaces/cpython/Lib/test_verbose_error.py", line 11, in test_one
assert l[1]
  ~^^^
IndexError: list index out of range

--
Ran 1 test in 0.004s

This cause for some confusion and we would like to fix it, the possible options 
are:

1. print the name and docstring, and ERROR, all on one line.
2. provide a command-line switch to select that behavior.

The first option has a minor backwards compatibility breakage, since the 
default output would change and those lines would get longer.

Any thoughts on the mentioned solutions?

https://bugs.python.org/issue47133
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