[Python-Dev] [RELEASE] Python 3.6.1rc1 is now available

2017-03-05 Thread Ned Deily
On behalf of the Python development community and the Python 3.6 release
team, I would like to announce the availability of Python 3.6.1rc1.
3.6.1rc1 is the first release candidate for Python 3.6.1, the first
maintenance release of Python 3.6.  3.6.0 was released on 2017-12-22
to great interest and now, three months later, we are providing the
first set of bugfixes and documentation updates for it.  While
3.6.1rc1 is a preview release and, thus, not intended for production
environments, we encourage you to explore it and provide feedback
via the Python bug tracker (https://bugs.python.org).  Although it
should be transparent to users of Python, 3.6.1 is the first release
after some major changes to our development process so we ask users
who build Python from source to be on the lookout for any unexpected
differences.

3.6.1 is planned for final release on 2017-03-20 with the next
maintenance release expected to follow in about 3 months.
 
Please see "What’s New In Python 3.6" for more information:

https://docs.python.org/3.6/whatsnew/3.6.html

You can find Python 3.6.1rc1 here:

https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-361rc1/

More information about the 3.6 release schedule can be found here:

https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0494/

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Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASE] Python 3.6.1rc1 is now available

2017-03-05 Thread Steve Dower
I just want to emphasize that this is a *very* important release to test, as it 
is the first one made after migrating the project to github.

Please spend a bit of time running it through your normal build/installation 
steps and let us know at https://bugs.python.org/ if anything seems off.

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Subject: [Python-Dev] [RELEASE] Python 3.6.1rc1 is now available

On behalf of the Python development community and the Python 3.6 release
team, I would like to announce the availability of Python 3.6.1rc1.
3.6.1rc1 is the first release candidate for Python 3.6.1, the first
maintenance release of Python 3.6.  3.6.0 was released on 2017-12-22
to great interest and now, three months later, we are providing the
first set of bugfixes and documentation updates for it.  While
3.6.1rc1 is a preview release and, thus, not intended for production
environments, we encourage you to explore it and provide feedback
via the Python bug tracker (https://bugs.python.org).  Although it
should be transparent to users of Python, 3.6.1 is the first release
after some major changes to our development process so we ask users
who build Python from source to be on the lookout for any unexpected
differences.

3.6.1 is planned for final release on 2017-03-20 with the next
maintenance release expected to follow in about 3 months.
 
Please see "What’s New In Python 3.6" for more information:

https://docs.python.org/3.6/whatsnew/3.6.html

You can find Python 3.6.1rc1 here:

https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-361rc1/

More information about the 3.6 release schedule can be found here:

https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0494/

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Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 538: Coercing the legacy C locale to a UTF-8 based locale

2017-03-05 Thread INADA Naoki
LGTM and I love this PEP and PEP 540.

Some comments:

...

> * PEP 540 proposes to entirely decouple CPython's default text encoding from
>   the C locale system in that case, allowing text handling inconsistencies
> to
>   arise between CPython and other C/C++ components running in the same
> process
>   and in subprocesses. This approach aims to make CPython behave less like a
>   locale-aware C/C++ application, and more like C/C++ independent language
>   runtimes like the JVM, .NET CLR, Go, Node.js, and Rust

I prefer just "locale-aware" / "locale-independent" (application |
library | function)
to "locale-aware C/C++ application" / "C/C++ independent" here.

Both of Rust and Node.JS are linked with libc.  And Node.JS (v8) is
written in C++.
They just demonstrates many people prefer "always UTF-8" to "LC_CTYPE aware
encoding" in real world application.

And C/C++ can be used for locale-aware and locale-independent application.
I can print "こんにちは、世界" in C locale, because stdio is byte transparent.
There are many locale independent libraries written in C (zlib, libjpeg, etc..),
and some functions in libc are locale-independent or LC_CTYPE independent
(printf is locale-aware, but it uses LC_NUMERIC, not LC_CTYPE).

...


> Backporting to Python 3.6.0
> ---
>
> If this PEP is accepted for Python 3.7, redistributors backporting the
> change
> specifically to their initial Python 3.6.0 release will be both allowed and
> encouraged. However, such backports should only be undertaken either in
> conjunction with the changes needed to also provide a suitable locale by
> default, or else specifically for platforms where such a locale is already
> consistently available.
>

If it's really encouraged, how about providing patch officially, or
backport it in 3.6.2
but disabled by default?
Some Python users (including my company) uses pyenv or pythonz to
build Python from source. This PEP and PEP 540 are important for them too.
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Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASE] Python 3.6.1rc1 is now available

2017-03-05 Thread D'Arcy Cain

On 2017-03-05 07:01 AM, Ned Deily wrote:

On behalf of the Python development community and the Python 3.6 release
team, I would like to announce the availability of Python 3.6.1rc1.
3.6.1rc1 is the first release candidate for Python 3.6.1, the first
maintenance release of Python 3.6.  3.6.0 was released on 2017-12-22


from __future__ import 3.6.0

Did Guido finally get that time machine working?

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Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASE] Python 3.6.1rc1 is now available

2017-03-05 Thread D'Arcy Cain

On 2017-03-05 07:01 AM, Ned Deily wrote:

On behalf of the Python development community and the Python 3.6 release
team, I would like to announce the availability of Python 3.6.1rc1.
3.6.1rc1 is the first release candidate for Python 3.6.1, the first
maintenance release of Python 3.6.  3.6.0 was released on 2017-12-22


from __future__ import 3.6.0

Did Guido finally get that time machine working?

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Re: [Python-Dev] Reports on my CPython contributions

2017-03-05 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 3:50 PM, Victor Stinner
 wrote:
> Recently, I wrote reports of my CPython contributions since 1 year
> 1/2. Some people on this list might be interested, so here is the
> list.

They are prolific!

Thanks for keeping a log and sharing.

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Re: [Python-Dev] Reports on my CPython contributions

2017-03-05 Thread Serhiy Storchaka

On 25.02.17 01:50, Victor Stinner wrote:

Recently, I wrote reports of my CPython contributions since 1 year
1/2. Some people on this list might be interested, so here is the
list.


Nice reading!


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Re: [Python-Dev] Reports on my CPython contributions

2017-03-05 Thread Victor Stinner
Le 5 mars 2017 19:14, "Senthil Kumaran"  a écrit :

On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 3:50 PM, Victor Stinner
 wrote:
> Recently, I wrote reports of my CPython contributions since 1 year
> 1/2. Some people on this list might be interested, so here is the
> list.

They are prolific!

Thanks for keeping a log and sharing.



I fear that these articles are just boring, so don't hesitate to send me a
private email if you have suggestions ;-) My static blog has no comment.

Victor
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