Re: [Python-Dev] [python-committers] How shall we conduct the Python 3.5 beta and rc periods? (Please vote!)

2015-05-13 Thread Larry Hastings 

On 05/12/2015 05:19 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote:


Workflow 0: -0
Workflow 1: +1
Workflow 2:  +0

That's taking into account the clarification that the buildbots will 
be set up to track the 3.5.x branch after the beta is forked, and that 
Larry will also push the 3.5rcX repo to hg.python.org 
 for branch testing.




I sort of assumed the buildbots would start building the 3.5 branch once 
it was created, yes.  (Are there any branches in the cpython repo that 
they ignore?)


When you say "branch testing", you mean "running the buildbots against 
it"?  Right now the UI for doing that is pretty clunky. Kicking off a 
build against a server-side clone (iirc) requires clicking through a 
couple web pages, filling out a form, and clicking on a teeny-tiny 
button.  It would help *tremendously* here if I could get this 
automated, so I could run a script locally that made everything happen.


Is there a remote API for starting builds?  Or existing automation of 
any kind?  Who should I talk to about this stuff?



(Possible alternative plan for the latter: rc1 isn't until August, and 
I could aim to have a pilot Kallithea instance set up by then that 
uses bugs.python.org  credentials to log in. 
If we didn't get that up and running for some reason, BitBucket could 
still be a fallback plan)




I'm happy to consider it.  My proposed workflow is only using a very 
small set of features, and I gather Kallithea already has those 
features.  Bolting on authentication from bugs.python.org would make it 
*less* friction than using Bitbucket.


But I couldn't say for sure until I got to try it.  So get cracking, Nick!


//arry/
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Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] cpython: Issue #24064: Property() docstrings are now writeable.

2015-05-13 Thread Eric V. Smith 
On 5/13/2015 4:10 AM, raymond.hettinger wrote:
> https://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/1e8a768fa0a5
> changeset:   96010:1e8a768fa0a5
> user:Raymond Hettinger 
> date:Wed May 13 01:09:59 2015 -0700
> summary:
>   Issue #24064: Property() docstrings are now writeable.
> (Patch by Berker Peksag.)

> diff --git a/Doc/library/collections.rst b/Doc/library/collections.rst
> --- a/Doc/library/collections.rst
> +++ b/Doc/library/collections.rst
> @@ -924,6 +924,15 @@
>  
>  >>> Point3D = namedtuple('Point3D', Point._fields + ('z',))
>  
> +Docstrings can be customized by making direct assignments to the ``__doc__``
> +fields:
> +
> +   >>> Book = namedtuple('Book', ['id', 'title', 'authors'])
> +   >>> Book.__doc__ = 'Hardcover book in active collection'
> +   >>> Book.id = '13-digit ISBN'
> +   >>> Book.title = 'Title of first printing'
> +   >>> Book.author = 'List of authors sorted by last name'

Should these be:
Book.id.__doc__ = ...
etc.?

> +Point = namedtuple('Point', ['x', 'y'])
> +Point.__doc__ = 'ordered pair'
> +Point.x.__doc__ = 'abscissa'
> +Point.y.__doc__ = 'ordinate'

These lines from /Doc/whatsnew/3.5.rst would make me think so.

Eric.

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Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] cpython: Issue #24064: Property() docstrings are now writeable.

2015-05-13 Thread Berker Peksağ 
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Eric V. Smith  wrote:
> On 5/13/2015 4:10 AM, raymond.hettinger wrote:
>> https://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/1e8a768fa0a5
>> changeset:   96010:1e8a768fa0a5
>> user:Raymond Hettinger 
>> date:Wed May 13 01:09:59 2015 -0700
>> summary:
>>   Issue #24064: Property() docstrings are now writeable.
>> (Patch by Berker Peksag.)
>
>> diff --git a/Doc/library/collections.rst b/Doc/library/collections.rst
>> --- a/Doc/library/collections.rst
>> +++ b/Doc/library/collections.rst
>> @@ -924,6 +924,15 @@
>>
>>  >>> Point3D = namedtuple('Point3D', Point._fields + ('z',))
>>
>> +Docstrings can be customized by making direct assignments to the ``__doc__``
>> +fields:
>> +
>> +   >>> Book = namedtuple('Book', ['id', 'title', 'authors'])
>> +   >>> Book.__doc__ = 'Hardcover book in active collection'
>> +   >>> Book.id = '13-digit ISBN'
>> +   >>> Book.title = 'Title of first printing'
>> +   >>> Book.author = 'List of authors sorted by last name'
>
> Should these be:
> Book.id.__doc__ = ...
> etc.?

Hi Eric,

Good catch. Fixed in https://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/bde652ae05fd

Thanks!

--Berker

>> +Point = namedtuple('Point', ['x', 'y'])
>> +Point.__doc__ = 'ordered pair'
>> +Point.x.__doc__ = 'abscissa'
>> +Point.y.__doc__ = 'ordinate'
>
> These lines from /Doc/whatsnew/3.5.rst would make me think so.
>
> Eric.
>
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Re: [Python-Dev] cpython: Issue #20172: Convert the winsound module to Argument Clinic.

2015-05-13 Thread Zachary Ware 
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 1:50 AM, Serhiy Storchaka  wrote:
> On 13.05.15 09:32, zach.ware wrote:
>>
>> https://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/d3582826d24c
>> changeset:   96006:d3582826d24c
>> user:Zachary Ware 
>> date:Wed May 13 01:21:21 2015 -0500
>> summary:
>>Issue #20172: Convert the winsound module to Argument Clinic.
>
>
>> +/*[clinic input]
>> +winsound.PlaySound
>> +
>> +sound: Py_UNICODE(nullable=True)
>
>
> I think this is no longer correct syntax. Should be Py_UNICODE(accept={str,
> NoneType}).

Oh, whoops.  I forgot to run clinic over things again before committing.

We need to stick that into the Windows build process somewhere...

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[Python-Dev] Fwd: [docs] Python documentation missing

2015-05-13 Thread Sandro Tosi 
Hello,
this happens every time we cut a RC release: the files referenced in
the download section are missing and (rightfully so) people complain


-- Forwarded message --
From: Ronald Legere 
Date: Wed, May 13, 2015 at 11:14 AM
Subject: [docs] Python documentation missing
To: d...@python.org



The links to the downloadable documentation for python 2.7 are 404 on this page:

https://docs.python.org/2/download.html

Are they available somewhere

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Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: [docs] Python documentation missing

2015-05-13 Thread Benjamin Peterson 


On Wed, May 13, 2015, at 13:22, Sandro Tosi wrote:
> Hello,
> this happens every time we cut a RC release: the files referenced in
> the download section are missing and (rightfully so) people complain

In this case, it was because the Python 3.5 docs were failing to build.
Should be fixed in ~12 hours.
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Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: [docs] Python documentation missing

2015-05-13 Thread Sandro Tosi 
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Benjamin Peterson  wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, May 13, 2015, at 13:22, Sandro Tosi wrote:
>> Hello,
>> this happens every time we cut a RC release: the files referenced in
>> the download section are missing and (rightfully so) people complain
>
> In this case, it was because the Python 3.5 docs were failing to build.
> Should be fixed in ~12 hours.

awesome! that was also a sort of heads up that it has happened
regularly in the past (I can remember for sure since last summer at
least) that cutting a RC release broke the doc download

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[Python-Dev] Repository builds as 2.7.8+

2015-05-13 Thread Terry Reedy 
Python 2.7.8+ (default, May 13 2015, 16:46:29) [MSC v.1500 32 bit 
(Intel)] on win32


Shouldn't this be 2.7.9+ or 2.7.10rc1?

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Re: [Python-Dev] Repository builds as 2.7.8+

2015-05-13 Thread Zachary Ware 
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 4:05 PM, Terry Reedy  wrote:
> Python 2.7.8+ (default, May 13 2015, 16:46:29) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
> on win32
>
> Shouldn't this be 2.7.9+ or 2.7.10rc1?

Make sure your repository is up to date, the patchlevel is correct at
the current tip of the 2.7 branch.

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Re: [Python-Dev] Repository builds as 2.7.8+

2015-05-13 Thread Terry Reedy 

On 5/13/2015 5:45 PM, Zachary Ware wrote:

On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 4:05 PM, Terry Reedy  wrote:

Python 2.7.8+ (default, May 13 2015, 16:46:29) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
on win32

Shouldn't this be 2.7.9+ or 2.7.10rc1?


Make sure your repository is up to date, the patchlevel is correct at
the current tip of the 2.7 branch.


I had just installed tortoise/hg 3.4, pulled and updated twice.
Then ran external.bat on all branches.
2.7 tip is Kuchling's push at 15:25 utc

I deleted python_d.exe and rebuilt it.  External timestamp in Explorer 
is updated, internal one displayed on startup is not.


The only changes in my working directory are to idle files.

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Re: [Python-Dev] Repository builds as 2.7.8+

2015-05-13 Thread Antoine Pitrou 
On Wed, 13 May 2015 18:15:10 -0400
Terry Reedy  wrote:

> On 5/13/2015 5:45 PM, Zachary Ware wrote:
> > On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 4:05 PM, Terry Reedy  wrote:
> >> Python 2.7.8+ (default, May 13 2015, 16:46:29) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
> >> on win32
> >>
> >> Shouldn't this be 2.7.9+ or 2.7.10rc1?
> >
> > Make sure your repository is up to date, the patchlevel is correct at
> > the current tip of the 2.7 branch.
> 
> I had just installed tortoise/hg 3.4, pulled and updated twice.
> Then ran external.bat on all branches.
> 2.7 tip is Kuchling's push at 15:25 utc

What does "hg sum" say?



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Re: [Python-Dev] Repository builds as 2.7.8+

2015-05-13 Thread Terry Reedy 

On 5/13/2015 6:22 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:

On Wed, 13 May 2015 18:15:10 -0400
Terry Reedy  wrote:


On 5/13/2015 5:45 PM, Zachary Ware wrote:

On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 4:05 PM, Terry Reedy  wrote:

Python 2.7.8+ (default, May 13 2015, 16:46:29) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
on win32

Shouldn't this be 2.7.9+ or 2.7.10rc1?


Make sure your repository is up to date, the patchlevel is correct at
the current tip of the 2.7 branch.


I had just installed tortoise/hg 3.4, pulled and updated twice.
Then ran external.bat on all branches.
2.7 tip is Kuchling's push at 15:25 utc


What does "hg sum" say?


F:\Python\dev\27>hg sum
parent: 96026:68d653f9a2c9
 #19934: fix mangled wording
branch: 2.7
commit: 6 modified
update: (current)

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