Re: [Python-Dev] w9xpopen.exe is still in 3.2
Am 20.02.2011 07:43, schrieb anatoly techtonik: > Python definitely needs a development Roadmap to avoid things like > w9xpopen.exe slipping off radar from release to release. We don't > support Windows 9x since Python 2.6. What this file does in 3.x > distributions? > > http://bugs.python.org/issue2405 Read the report carefully. It can't be removed to support installations that have changed COMSPEC. Regards, Martin ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] "Some" .pyc files not ending up in __pycache__ during installation
Georg Brandl, 19.02.2011 21:53: BTW, I haven't seen an issue yet. http://bugs.python.org/issue11254 Stefan ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] w9xpopen.exe is still in 3.2
On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 11:10 AM, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: > Am 20.02.2011 07:43, schrieb anatoly techtonik: >> Python definitely needs a development Roadmap to avoid things like >> w9xpopen.exe slipping off radar from release to release. We don't >> support Windows 9x since Python 2.6. What this file does in 3.x >> distributions? >> >> http://bugs.python.org/issue2405 > > Read the report carefully. It can't be removed to support installations > that have changed COMSPEC. What is the percentage of these installations? Is it possible to support them using by 3rd-party package/distribution? -- anatoly t. ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Python-Dev] [RELEASED] Python 3.2
On behalf of the Python development team, I'm delighted to announce Python 3.2 final release. Python 3.2 is a continuation of the efforts to improve and stabilize the Python 3.x line. Since the final release of Python 2.7, the 2.x line will only receive bugfixes, and new features are developed for 3.x only. Since PEP 3003, the Moratorium on Language Changes, is in effect, there are no changes in Python's syntax and built-in types in Python 3.2. Development efforts concentrated on the standard library and support for porting code to Python 3. Highlights are: * numerous improvements to the unittest module * PEP 3147, support for .pyc repository directories * PEP 3149, support for version tagged dynamic libraries * PEP 3148, a new futures library for concurrent programming * PEP 384, a stable ABI for extension modules * PEP 391, dictionary-based logging configuration * an overhauled GIL implementation that reduces contention * an extended email package that handles bytes messages * a much improved ssl module with support for SSL contexts and certificate hostname matching * a sysconfig module to access configuration information * additions to the shutil module, among them archive file support * many enhancements to configparser, among them mapping protocol support * improvements to pdb, the Python debugger * countless fixes regarding bytes/string issues; among them full support for a bytes environment (filenames, environment variables) * many consistency and behavior fixes for numeric operations For a more extensive list of changes in 3.2, see http://docs.python.org/3.2/whatsnew/3.2.html To download Python 3.2 visit: http://www.python.org/download/releases/3.2/ Please consider trying Python 3.2 with your code and reporting any bugs you may notice to: http://bugs.python.org/ Enjoy! - -- Georg Brandl, Release Manager georg at python.org (on behalf of the entire python-dev team and 3.2's contributors) ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] Gsoc 2011 ideas
I've compiled a list of issues with python.org services that are not strictly related to core development, but still may be beneficial for Python community as a GSoC project at http://code.google.com/p/pydotorg/issues/list Feel free to add your own proposals/ideas. -- anatoly t. On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 2:44 PM, yeswanth swami wrote: > Hi everyone, > I am planning to apply for Gsoc 2011 for the PSF . I would like to know if > any of you have any ideas which can be implemented this summer. I guess the > gsoc 2011 ideas page has not been put up as yet. So I thought maybe any of > you can suggest some ideas . > Thanks > Yeswanth > ___ > Python-Dev mailing list > Python-Dev@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev > Unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/techtonik%40gmail.com > > ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] w9xpopen.exe is still in 3.2
On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 15:22, anatoly techtonik wrote: > On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 11:10 AM, "Martin v. Löwis" > wrote: > > Am 20.02.2011 07:43, schrieb anatoly techtonik: > >> Python definitely needs a development Roadmap to avoid things like > >> w9xpopen.exe slipping off radar from release to release. We don't > >> support Windows 9x since Python 2.6. What this file does in 3.x > >> distributions? > >> > >> http://bugs.python.org/issue2405 > > > > Read the report carefully. It can't be removed to support installations > > that have changed COMSPEC. > > What is the percentage of these installations? > Is it possible to support them using by 3rd-party package/distribution? I'm not sure the percentage matters. Someone somewhere may need it now or in the future, and keeping it requires zero effort. Removing it and creating an external distribution requires extra work from someone on python-dev and also on the user's part, which is a losing situation. ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASED] Python 3.2
Le dimanche 20 février 2011 à 23:22 +0100, Georg Brandl a écrit : > On behalf of the Python development team, I'm delighted to announce > Python 3.2 final release. > > Python 3.2 is a continuation of the efforts to improve and stabilize the > Python 3.x line. Congratulation to all Python developers for this wonderful release! And a special kudo to our release manager, Georg. I hope that Python 3 is now stable enough to support migration of major projects like Django, Twisted or Zope. Other important projets like Distribute, Jinja2, PyQt, PyGObject, pygame, NumPy+SciPy and Sphinx are already compatible with Python 3. Victor ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] w9xpopen.exe is still in 3.2
On Feb 20, 2011, at 4:10 AM, Martin v. Löwis wrote: > Am 20.02.2011 07:43, schrieb anatoly techtonik: >> Python definitely needs a development Roadmap to avoid things like >> w9xpopen.exe slipping off radar from release to release. We don't >> support Windows 9x since Python 2.6. What this file does in 3.x >> distributions? >> >> http://bugs.python.org/issue2405 > > Read the report carefully. It can't be removed to support installations > that have changed COMSPEC. Does a modern windows installation actually even *work* if you change COMSPEC to command.com instead of cmd.exe? And why would anyone ever do that? Hey, I have a good idea: python can just ignore COMSPEC and always run cmd.exe. Then you can delete w9xpopen, hooray. James ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] w9xpopen.exe is still in 3.2
> Does a modern windows installation actually even *work* if you change > COMSPEC to command.com instead of cmd.exe? And why would anyone ever > do that? Hey, I have a good idea: python can just ignore COMSPEC and > always run cmd.exe. Then you can delete w9xpopen, hooray. We have a process for that: in version 3.x, we deprecate the feature, and in version 3.x+1, we drop support for it. Since deprecation missed Python 3.2, we can only deprecate in 3.3, and drop in 3.4. As for "always run cmd.exe": we can't, as it's not us who runs cmd.exe, but the CRT (in the popen library function). Regards, Martin ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Python-Dev] Distutils2 next steps
Hello Now that Python 3.2 is out, I am planning to do the following with Distutils2: 1 - release a new alpha before Pycon for community feedback 2 - add distutils2 back in the trunk, along with the changes in pkgutil and sysconfig 3 - continue the ongoing work in Distutils2 to prepare the first Python 3.3 release If you want me to give more details here on what is going to be done precisely in the various stdlib parts, let me know. I plan to do 2. as a sprint task, and will be looking for help from other core devs, for reviews, advices etc. So if anyone is interested and present at Pycon, please add your name at http://us.pycon.org/2011/sprints/projects under the "Disttuils2" project. Thanks ! Cheers Tarek -- Tarek Ziadé | http://ziade.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] Distutils2 next steps
On 21.02.2011 08:41, Tarek Ziadé wrote: > Hello > > Now that Python 3.2 is out, I am planning to do the following with Distutils2: > > 1 - release a new alpha before Pycon for community feedback > 2 - add distutils2 back in the trunk, along with the changes in > pkgutil and sysconfig > 3 - continue the ongoing work in Distutils2 to prepare the first > Python 3.3 release > > If you want me to give more details here on what is going to be done > precisely in the various stdlib parts, let me know. I think I'm also speaking for the prospective release manager of 3.3 by saying yes, please, details would be nice, but not necessarily *right* now. :) Georg ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
