Re: [python-committers] "trivial" label replaced with "skip issue"

2017-07-16 Thread Victor Stinner
2017-07-14 20:33 GMT+02:00 Brett Cannon :
> In preparation of fully moving over to blurb and per-file news entries (I
> don't have an ETA from Larry on when he plans to do explode Misc/NEWS into
> individual files), ...

Oh, I wasn't aware of this plan. What is the benefit of converting old
Misc/NEWS entries? Do you have an idea of many files we will get? Do
we plan to remove old entries?

Victor
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Re: [python-committers] "trivial" label replaced with "skip issue"

2017-07-16 Thread Larry Hastings


Getting rid of Misc/NEWS was the whole point.  The benefit is that we 
get rid of Misc/NEWS collisions.


The other questions, you can answer for yourself by looking at the PRs.  
They're all in a row, PR 2714 through PR 2719.  2719 is where most of 
the conversation is happening.


   https://github.com/python/cpython/pull/2719

Right now I'm trying to figure out how to fix the Doc build.  I don't 
think there are any other issues.



//arry/

On 07/16/2017 04:10 PM, Victor Stinner wrote:

2017-07-14 20:33 GMT+02:00 Brett Cannon :

In preparation of fully moving over to blurb and per-file news entries (I
don't have an ETA from Larry on when he plans to do explode Misc/NEWS into
individual files), ...

Oh, I wasn't aware of this plan. What is the benefit of converting old
Misc/NEWS entries? Do you have an idea of many files we will get? Do
we plan to remove old entries?

Victor
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Re: [python-committers] "trivial" label replaced with "skip issue"

2017-07-16 Thread Brett Cannon
On Sun, Jul 16, 2017, 07:10 Victor Stinner, 
wrote:

> 2017-07-14 20:33 GMT+02:00 Brett Cannon :
> > In preparation of fully moving over to blurb and per-file news entries (I
> > don't have an ETA from Larry on when he plans to do explode Misc/NEWS
> into
> > individual files), ...
>
> Oh, I wasn't aware of this plan.


Just a reminder all the major discussions about workflow changes happen on
the core-workflow mailing list with smaller discussions on the
core-workflow issue tracker. This specific change has been planned and
discussed since the migration was nothing more than a PEP.

-brett


What is the benefit of converting old
> Misc/NEWS entries? Do you have an idea of many files we will get? Do
> we plan to remove old entries?
>
> Victor
>
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Re: [python-committers] Python 3.3.7 release schedule and end-of-life

2017-07-16 Thread Brett Cannon
A quick thanks from me, Ned, for stepping forward to help 3.3 pine for the
fjords.

On Sat, Jul 15, 2017, 14:51 Ned Deily,  wrote:

> Python 3.3 is fast approaching its end-of-life date, 2017-09-29.  Per our
> release policy, that date is five years after the initial release of 3.3,
> 3.3.0 final on 2012-09-29.  Note that 3.3 has been in security-fix only
> mode since the 2014-03-08 release of 3.3.5.  It has been a while since we
> produced a 3.3.x security-fix release and, due to his commitments
> elsewhere, Georg has agreed for me to lead 3.3 to its well-deserved
> retirement.
>
> To that end, I would like to schedule its next, and hopefully final,
> security-fix release to coincide with the already announced 3.4.7
> security-fix release. In particular, we'll plan to tag and release 3.3.7rc1
> on Monday 2017-07-24 (UTC) and tag and release 3.3.7 final on Monday
> 2017-08-07.  In the coming days, I'll be reviewing the outstanding 3.3
> security issues and merging appropriate 3.3 PRs.  Some of them have been
> sitting as patches for a long time so, if you have any such security issues
> that you think belong in 3.3, it would be very helpful if you would review
> such patches and turn them into 3.3 PRs.
>
> As a reminder, here are the guidelines from the devguide as to what is
> appropriate for a security-fix only branch:
>
> "The only changes made to a security branch are those fixing issues
> exploitable by attackers such as crashes, privilege escalation and,
> optionally, other issues such as denial of service attacks. Any other
> changes are not considered a security risk and thus not backported to a
> security branch. You should also consider fixing hard-failing tests in open
> security branches since it is important to be able to run the tests
> successfully before releasing."
>
> Note that documentation changes, other than any that might be related to a
> security fix, are also out of scope.
>
> Assuming no new security issues arise prior to the EOL date, 3.3.7 will
> likely be the final release of 3.3.  And you really shouldn't be using 3.3
> at all at this point; while downstream distributors are, of course, free to
> provide support of 3.3 to their customers, in a little over two months when
> EOL is reached python-dev will no longer accept any issues or make any
> changes available for 3.3.  If you are still using 3.3, you really owe it
> to your applications, to your users, and to yourself to upgrade to a more
> recent release of Python 3, preferably 3.6!  Many, many fixes, new
> features, and substantial performance improvements await you.
>
> https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0398/
> https://devguide.python.org/devcycle/#security-branches
>
> --
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Re: [python-committers] "trivial" label replaced with "skip issue"

2017-07-16 Thread Victor Stinner
2017-07-16 16:10 GMT+02:00 Victor Stinner :
> What is the benefit of converting old Misc/NEWS entries?

I guess that the benefit is to use a single format for all NEWS
entries. I understand that it will ease the build of the changelog.

> Do you have an idea of many files we will get?
> Do we plan to remove old entries?

Before: 47 files in master.
After: 546 files. Ok, it's not much.

I didn't know that blurb supports "packing" NEWS entries into a single
file, like Misc/NEWS.d/3.5.0a1.rst which contains 598 entries. Cool!

My fear was to get 10,000 files in Misc/NEWS and starting to get
performance issues with Git on some platforms.

With the PR #2719 (convert Misc/NEWS to blurb for master), the Git
repository contains 4,340 files. On my laptop, I didn't notice any
major performance related to that.

Victor
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[python-committers] [RELEASE] Python 3.6.2 is now available

2017-07-16 Thread Ned Deily
On behalf of the Python development community and the Python 3.6 release
team, I am happy to announce the availability of Python 3.6.2, the
second maintenance release of Python 3.6.  3.6.0 was released on 2016-12-22
to great interest and we are now providing the second set of bugfixes and
documentation updates for it; the first maintenance release, 3.6.1, was
released on 2017-03-31.  Detailed information about the changes made in
3.6.2 can be found in the change log here:

https://docs.python.org/3.6/whatsnew/changelog.html#python-3-6-2

Please see "What’s New In Python 3.6" for more information about the
new features in Python 3.6:

https://docs.python.org/3.6/whatsnew/3.6.html

You can download Python 3.6.2 here:

https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-362/

The next maintenance release of Python 3.6 is expected to follow in
about 3 months, around the end of 2017-09.  More information about the
3.6 release schedule can be found here:

https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0494/

Enjoy!

P.S. If you need to download the documentation set for 3.6.2
immediately, you can always find the release version here:
https://docs.python.org/release/3.6.2/download.html

The most current updated versions will appear here:
https://docs.python.org/3.6/

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