Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] Should I delay 3.5.3 and 3.4.6 by two weeks?

2016-12-19 Thread Raymond Hettinger

> On Dec 18, 2016, at 9:26 PM, Larry Hastings  wrote:
> 
> So, if you have an opinion, please vote for one of these three options:
>   • Don't slip 3.5.3. and 3.4.6.
>   • Slip 3.5.3 and 3.4.6 by two weeks to match 3.6.0.
>   • Slip 3.5.3 and 3.4.6 by a whole month, to give 3.6.0 the ability to 
> slip again without us having to change the release.

I vote for not slipping.   2.7.13 is out.  3.6.0 is almost out.  And it would 
be nice to have the others done as well.  That way, we know the whole source 
tree is open and can start moving forward without reservations.

Also, I would like the 3.6.0 announcement to not get drowned-out or attenuated 
by other announcements around older releases (i.e. it would be nice if 3.6.0 
was the actual latest release of any version for a while).


Raymond
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Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] Should I delay 3.5.3 and 3.4.6 by two weeks?

2016-12-19 Thread Brett Cannon
On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 at 06:29 Terry Reedy  wrote:

> On 12/19/2016 12:26 AM, Larry Hastings wrote:
> >
> >
> > Python 3.6.0 final just slipped by two weeks.  I scheduled 3.5.3 and
> > 3.4.6 to ship about a month after 3.6.0 did, to "let the dust settle"
> > around the release.  I expect a flood of adoption of 3.6, and people
> > switching will find bugs, and maybe those bugs are in 3.5 or 3.4.  So it
> > just seemed sensible.
> >
> > 3.6 just slipped by two weeks.  So now there's less than two weeks
> > between 3.6.0 final shipping and tagging the release canddiates for
> > 3.5.3 and 3.4.6.  This isn't as much time as I'd like.
> >
> > If I had total freedom to do as I liked, I'd slip my releases by two
> > weeks to match 3.6.  But there might be people planning around 3.5.3 and
> > 3.4.6--like Guido was waiting for 3.5.3 for something iirc.
> >
> > So, if you have an opinion, please vote for one of these three options:
> >
> >   * Don't slip 3.5.3. and 3.4.6.
>
> I am mildly in favor of this.  There are already known bugs in 3.5 that
> will not get fixed, no matter how long you delay the final maintenance
> release.  There are even bugs left in 2.7 after 6 years of fixing.  In
> the meanwhile, it is a mild nuisance to have 3 3.x maintenance branches
> open.
>
> I don't know when Brett will move us to GIT and how that might impact
> the timing.
>

Slipping doesn't affect me yet as all the pieces are still not quite in
place. So a shift in release just shifts the blackout period for the week
prior to the 3.5.3 release.
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Re: [python-committers] Should I delay 3.5.3 and 3.4.6 by two weeks?

2016-12-19 Thread Antoine Pitrou

Le 19/12/2016 à 06:26, Larry Hastings a écrit :
> 
> So, if you have an opinion, please vote for one of these three options:
> 
>   * Don't slip 3.5.3. and 3.4.6.
>   * Slip 3.5.3 and 3.4.6 by two weeks to match 3.6.0.
>   * Slip 3.5.3 and 3.4.6 by a whole month, to give 3.6.0 the ability to
> slip again without us having to change the release.

I would myself vote for a delay.  How long exactly doesn't really matter.

Motivation : I would like a fix for https://bugs.python.org/issue28427
to get in 3.5.3.  The fix is ready but a quick look by the current dict
specialists may be welcome (though I can do without as well :-)).
Reviewer workforce may be scarce especially around end-of-Gregorian-year
festivities.

Regards

Antoine.
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[python-committers] Can we delete https://hg.python.org/coding/cpython/?

2016-12-19 Thread Brett Cannon
It's erroneously labeled as the "official python repo" and created by some
stranger.
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Re: [python-committers] Can we delete https://hg.python.org/coding/cpython/?

2016-12-19 Thread Benjamin Peterson
Killed.

On Mon, Dec 19, 2016, at 14:23, Brett Cannon wrote:
> It's erroneously labeled as the "official python repo" and created by
> some
> stranger.
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