new plasma desktop idea

2010-05-06 Thread tringalinv...@libero.it
Hello everyone,
I'm a young italian programmer... I use Kubuntu and I know c++ and python (some 
other languages too).
Do you know BumpTop (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jhoWsHwU7w)? Well, I'm 
trying to develop a similar thing for Kde: it's naturally linked to Plasma. It 
could be used as a desktop type (like Madelbrot, Virus, Image, Globe...). I 
started editing the code of WolfentQt. I'm at the beginning and it would be 
nice if someone wants to help. 
You can find the code here: 
http://zorbaproject.uuuq.com/upload/filippo-0.1.tar.gz

Note: I called this project Filippo in honour to Filippo Brunelleschi, inventor 
of the linear prospective.

Luca Tringali


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R: [Feature Request] Autoconfig ext-monitor

2010-05-27 Thread tringalinv...@libero.it
Good idea, it could be possible to save the configuration for every monitor 
plugged in so, if in the future will be plugged a monitor with the same name of 
one who has already been used, KDE will use the configuration assigned to that 
monitor name. And, maybe, if a new screen is plugged in KDE could open 
automatically the configuration window, like Windows does.

Luca Tringali

>Messaggio originale
>Da: boulab...@gmail.com
>Data: 27/05/2010 15.59
>A: 
>Ogg: [Feature Request] Autoconfig ext-monitor
>
>Hi,
>
>I want to propose a feature in KDE.
>I don't know how much time does it need to be implemented.
>
>Auto configure external monitor plugging with the default monitor setting :
>When I plug an external monitor, I should always configure it.
>But these days, using xrandr tool the default monitor resolution is
>always detected by a * and the current one by a + sign.
>
>Please, can you add that feature, so a user can check a config box
>only one time to let the system accept default configuration according
>to default monitor resolution and to mirror screen ?
>
>Doesn't show KDE as an intelligent system ?
>Do you remember this video when a developer from KDE encountered some
>problems configuring his external monitor ?
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oY5GN9MQHMA
>
>
>What you think ?
>
>Thanks a lot,
>Best Regards
>
>Mohamed-Ikbel BOULABIAR
>Computer Engineer ENSI - Tunisie
>Master M2 Human-Computer Interaction,
>Telecom-Bretagne
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[Plasma Media Center] install issue

2010-06-05 Thread tringalinv...@libero.it
Hello everybody,
I downloaded PMC from svn and I was trying to install it: the main interface 
was installed correctly, but not the widgets, so it's completely useless. 
So my question is how can I install properly the whole PMC? 
Or is there another way to see it working?

Luca Tringali
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R: Re: [Plasma Media Center] install issue

2010-06-05 Thread tringalinv...@libero.it
Thank you for the reply. Anyway I still receive the same error (something like
"The object could not be created for the following reason: could not find 
requested component mediacontroller"). I also tried to run 
"plasmoidviewer mediacontroller", and I receive the same error, while if I 
try 
with another plasmoid (one I created a bit time ago) it works fine. So I 
think 
the problem could be in the installation of the widgets for PMC.

P.S.: I run "make install" only in the source main directory... may I need to 
run it in every plasmoid folder? I found that there are a lot of others 
Makefile, not only in the main folder.

Luca Tringali

Messaggio originale
Da: alediafe...@gmail.com
Data: 05/06/2010 9.31
A: "tringalinv...@libero.it", 
Ogg: Re: [Plasma Media Center] install issue



2010/6/5 tringalinv...@libero.it 
Hello everybody,
I downloaded PMC from svn and I was trying to install it: the main interface
was installed correctly, but not the widgets, so it's completely useless.
So my question is how can I install properly the whole PMC?
Or is there another way to see it working?

Luca Tringali
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After having built and install it successfully do in the command line:
kbuildsycoca4 && plasma-mediacenter

Be aware that it will eat your kittens :)
Cheers

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Re: [Plasma Media Center] install issue

2010-06-05 Thread tringalinv...@libero.it
I did this:
svn co svn://anonsvn.kde.
org/home/kde/trunk/playground/base/plasma/MediaCenterComponents/
cd MediaCenterComponents
make
sudo make install
kbuildsycoca4 
plasma-mediacenter

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Re: [Plasma Media Center] install issue SOLVED

2010-06-05 Thread tringalinv...@libero.it
Ok, everything works now, thank you, I was using the wrong install path... I 
didn't noticed it.

Luca Tringali
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R: PMC meeting summary

2010-06-13 Thread tringalinv...@libero.it
Sorry, I was busy and could not join the meeting. Anyway I wanted to propose a 
little thing:
could it be possible to add widgets? I mean... actually there are three 
widgets usable 
(picture, video, music browser) but it could be useful if the user  could 
choose to add some
other plasmoids so in the "welcome menù" he can decide to use them, for 
example the
webbrowser plasmoid. 
This could make easy the contribution to PMC, in fact it will be possible to 
create a plasmoid
that does what we want, then the user will download it and add it to PMC. The 
new widget will 
be accessible from the main menù.

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R: Re: R: PMC meeting summary

2010-06-16 Thread tringalinv...@libero.it
>Da: ase...@kde.org
>Data: 15/06/2010 19.21
>A: 
>Ogg: Re: R: PMC meeting summary
>
>On June 13, 2010, tringalinv...@libero.it wrote:
>> Sorry, I was busy and could not join the meeting. Anyway I wanted to
>> propose a little thing:
>> could it be possible to add widgets? 
>
>propose for someone else to work on, or propose as something you'd like to 
>work on?

I'm trying to work on it but I'm a little busy with exams now... in July I 
will seriously try to comprehend
PMC code and work on it.

>> I mean... actually there are three
>> widgets usable
>> (picture, video, music browser) but it could be useful if the user  could
>> choose to add some
>> other plasmoids so in the "welcome menù" he can decide to use them, for
>> example the
>> webbrowser plasmoid.
>
>this would probably be another state altogether, much like the picture and 
>video browsers except that it would browse relevant widgets. i'd probably 
call 
>it "Apps" or somesuch. from the listing of available widgets, the user could 
>select one or more to launch (full screen of course :)
Yes, it's a good idea. I think also that, if the project reach a good state, 
we could start thinking to release
a version of KDE that uses PMC as main eviroment, so there will be a standard 
Kde version, a
netbook remix, and a mediacenter remix.
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R: Re: R: Re: R: PMC meeting summary

2010-06-16 Thread tringalinv...@libero.it
About the Phonon issue I found a strange thing: PMC video player
doesn't work, but the mediaplayer example given with QtCreator works fine.
It could be a stupid thing, but it could be also a starting point to find out
differences between the two programs.

Luca Tringali

Messaggio originale
Da: alediafe...@gmail.com
Data: 16/06/2010 20.41
A: 
Ogg: Re: R: Re: R: PMC meeting summary



2010/6/16 Aaron J. Seigo 
On June 16, 2010, tringalinv...@libero.it wrote:
> >> I mean... actually there are three
> >> widgets usable
> >> (picture, video, music browser) but it could be useful if the user
> >> could choose to add some
> >> other plasmoids so in the "welcome menù" he can decide to use them, for
> >> example the
> >> webbrowser plasmoid.
> >
> >this would probably be another state altogether, much like the picture and
> >video browsers except that it would browse relevant widgets. i'd probably
>
> call
>
> >it "Apps" or somesuch. from the listing of available widgets, the user
> >could select one or more to launch (full screen of course :)
>
> Yes, it's a good idea.

great; and since you're wanting to charge in on this, please don't hesitate to
ask questions as they arise, either here or on irc in #plasma or #plasma-
mediacenter :)

welcome to the project, btw :)

> I think also that, if the project reach a good
> state, we could start thinking to release

absolutely; it's not a real project until releases get made ;)

> a version of KDE that uses PMC as main eviroment, so there will be a
> standard Kde version, a
> netbook remix, and a mediacenter remix.

my initial plans/hopes for PMC are to ship it as a feature of Plasma Desktop;
both Windows and MacOS have media center apps that ship with them, so this
would draw us to feature parity with them (and above all the other F/OSS
desktop options out there at the same time in this regard :)

that will get us a lot of feedback and testing, as our strongest base is still
desktop users. then we can take that and start doing the work to make a proper
stand-alone system. that will likely revolve around getting the input system
(remotes, esp) working well and uPnp for media. i'd LOVE to see the ability to
stream media from a Plasma Desktop or Amarok to a Plasma MC with "zero" user
configuration. but that can be step 2, after step 1 of releasing it alongside
Plasma Desktop for laptop/desktop users.

 
what does everyone think about targetting 4.6 for a solid "step 1"? we can do
a tech preview before then if PMC hits some milestones. we can work with
openSuse and/or Kubuntu to roll such a thing. (aka "copy the netbook pattern")

4.6 is a good target but we *absolutely* need to sort out the Phonon issue.
Personally I cannot manage to play videos at all, and I'm a developer.. think 
about users.
I know i might have some config issues, but i don't think Avatar-like people 
in videos are over as of the current Phonon version.
Regarding the other stuff we now have a pretty much working integration with 
nepomuk + i'm doing huge API review (just committed one).
Christopher is doing pretty great job with QML while Christophe is giving 
great help polishing.
I'm hoping in Hayri to get the working JS dataengines soon.
Stated this i think that at least a tech preview can be released soon.
Regarding the release schedule, instead, i cannot guarantee i can follow KDE 
SC release schedule in general due to university ( :/ ) and therefore I was 
thinking about extragear. If, instead, we reach a good developers base I think 
we have more chances to release alongside with KDE SC.

Just my 2 cc.
Cheers :)
 

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R: PMC needs an icon

2010-06-18 Thread tringalinv...@libero.it

Well, if with "a real icon" you mean a sort of logo, i thought something like 
this:
zorbaproject.uuuq.com/upload/PMC_logo1.png
zorbaproject.uuuq.com/upload/PMC_logo2.png
zorbaproject.uuuq.com/upload/PMC_logo.xcf
I'm not really good in drawing, but maybe a kde-artist can take the idea from 
those files.
Basically, I thought to take the plasma logo and substitute the three drops 
with something 
representing videos, music, and photos, with the same color of the drop.


Messaggio originale

Da: alediafe...@gmail.com

Data: 18/06/2010 9.08

A: "Plasma"

Cc: 

Ogg: PMC needs an icon



Hello people,
work on PMC keeps going on, rocking, and i think it's the time for a real icon 
for our beloved application.

I hope i cc'ed the right list. I kindly ask our friendly neighbourhood artists 
if they mind designing an icon for Plasma Media Center.



Nuno did an amazing job in preparing mockups for us centuries ago but i 
personally don't know if he already prepared an icon for us. 

I'm also attaching a set of icons Lee Olson (hoping he's reading this mail) 
prepared for us. I'd just like to know whether that icon is ok for the whole 
team or if there are any changes to be made as I'm not an artist.


Thank you very much for your time.
Regards.
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R: Re: Plasma Media Center Branding

2010-07-15 Thread tringalinv...@libero.it
>Messaggio originale
>Da: alediafe...@gmail.com
>Data: 15/07/2010 9.07
>A: "Stuart Jarvis"
>Cc: "Plasma", 
>Ogg: Re: Plasma Media Center Branding
>
>Also adding plasma-devel to the CC
>
>2010/7/15 Stuart Jarvis 
>Hey guys,
>
>(copying in Alessandro as he can probably answer the next question)
>
>Is Plasma Media Center going to be a workspace or an app that runs in another
>workspace?
>
>If it's the latter then we'd better give some serious thought to the 
branding:
vPlasma is the brand for our workspaces and things can get confusing if we
>break with that.
>
>KDE's product groups:
>Libs -> KDE Platform
>Workspaces -> Plasma Desktop, Plasma Netbook, Plasma Mobile
>Apps -> Many names, but not Plasma something
>
>Cheers,
>Stu
>
>Hey Stu, first of all thanks for the point which is really important.
Actually, Plasma Media Center is intended as a stand-alone application and its 
development is going into this direction. >The fact that we call it Plasma 
Media Center is due to the use of the Plasma technologies to develop it. So, 
probably, your point is valid and we should start thinkin' about a proper name 
>for it.
>I'd like some other Plasma-devs to give their opinion on this.
>Cheers
>-- 
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>KDE Developer
>KDE e.V. member

Well, i think that Plasma Media Center is a good name, because also if now 
it's a standalone application,
in the future (near or far) probably it will become a workspace. And also at 
the current state it could be
used as a workspace if all you want to do is wacthing movies, playing music or 
browsing pictures.

Luca Tringali


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