I agree about not starting a war between PHP and ASP. We already have one
going on that is out of hand between Linux and Windows :-)
I do think it is up to how you view things. When I think of support being
"native" I think of that meaning that something can perform a task using
only its own internal capabilities. So in the case of PHP and say Oracle
this would mean that PHP could connect to and utilize data in an Oracle
database using only functionality that is built into PHP itself. But if you
look at http://www.php.net/manual/en/ref.oci8.php you will find that you
need to install the Oracle 8 Client Libraries if you want to use the Oracle
8 PHP functions. So is this really "native" support? You can make your own
decision on that one :-)
I am a professional web application developer and the consulting firm I work
for leans heavily toward the Microsoft side so I am very familiar with ASP.
I also do PHP on the side and have had one assignment doing PHP on my job.
* My personal preference is PHP because the language is so elegant and I
like the cross-platorm aspect of PHP as well.
* PHP seems to be supported MUCH better than ASP.
* The PHP development cycle is more current.
* Possibly the biggest thing I like about PHP over ASP is dynamic includes.
Those developers out there know what I mean about this one. Including a file
dynamically say from a database field or some other approach. Believe it or
not this really opens up a lot of doors in your development.
Just my personal opinions and you will find probably everyone on this list
will have their own. But that is fine too. It my be best to look at the
problem to be solved then choose the platform and language that will best
solve it.
Original Message Follows
From: Philip Hallstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Robert Klinkenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [PHP] Re: PHP vs. ASP
Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 08:51:40 -0800 (PST)
I don't want to start a war, but last time I looked PHP had native support
for every database I'd ever heard of including Oracle, SQLServer, etc...
Just don't want the guy doing the report that php is database limited...
On Wed, 9 Jan 2002, Robert Klinkenberg wrote:
> Well, I personally prefer PHP over ASP because better support from
> webhosting companies, but ASP has some good points.
> This is especially the case if you can setup the complete hosting
> environment yourself and have some money to spend.
>
> First of all databases. PHP has support for a limited but interesting
list
> of databases, especially the support for mysql and postgres is handy for
a
> webserver. On the other hand, ASP has good support for most bussiness
> servers (ORACLE MS SQL Server,) with OLE-DB and a lot more databases
> with ODBC.
>
> The development tools. Definately a win for ASP (with vb.net C# and C++
you
> have a complete IDE and with Dreamweaver Ultradev you can pretty much
point
> and click. SO you can choose whatever tool you like.
> PHP has very limited IDE's.
>
> Price. ASP solutions are mostly build with Windows 2000 Server and MS SQL
> Server or Oracle and an expensive IDE. So it's pretty expensive to build.
> PHP is mostly used with Linux, Apache and MySQL and is a lot cheaper (you
> only need to buy the hardware and the software is virtually free)
>
> Programming language: This is off course a personal taste but with ASP
> (.net) you can use VB/C++/C#. So if you are used to VB or C++ it's a bit
> easier to start with.
>
> Modules. Both have a lot of free tools available. However I personally
find
> the PHP modules more usefull. (With the exception of the Crystal Report
> generator in .net, pretty usable reports without a lot of work).
>
> It's a bit easier for a novice to get started with ASP as with PHP, and
it's
> pertty easy to make the project look good.
>
> So, if you have the cash and some inexperienced programmers working for
you
> ASP is the save bet. If you have a small company, are a student, depend
on
> webhosting or are a pretty experienced programmer, PHP might be a better
> choose.
>
> Robert Klinkenberg
>
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