RE: [PHP] PHP with Java
Did you enable the java extension? In your php.ini file, you need to enable
the extension, and then also enable/properly set all the stuff in the [Java]
section. This will tell PHP where your JDK is, etc.
-Original Message-
From: Aku [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 6:15 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [PHP] PHP with Java
Hi,
I learn PHP with Java and I try PHP script from help, like below;
getProperty("java.version")." \n";
print "Java vendor=".$system->getProperty("java.vendor")." \n\n";
print "OS=".$system->getProperty("os.name")." ".
$system->getProperty("os.version")." on ".
$system->getProperty("os.arch")." \n";
$formatter = new Java("java.text.SimpleDateFormat",", dd,
'at' h:mm:ss a ");
print $formatter->format(new Java("java.util.Date"))."\n";
?>
error like;
Fatal error: Unable to create Java Virtual Machine in c:\new\java\ex01.php
on line 2
Thanks for help.
Hotma MS
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(sorry about my english)
--
PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[PHP] Articles on OO apps in PHP, also Object-Relational mapping in PHP?
I'm wondering if there are any articles or other material describing how to design PHP web applications in a highly object oriented fashion? Specifically, object relational mapping, using classes for nearly everything (as appropriate), etc. The articles don't have to be PHP specific, but PHP's OO/class facilities leave a bit to be desired in comparison to say Java, so how this is done in PHP would be interesting. I've read a few PHP articles, a couple books, etc. on the "typical" (my impression) way of designing PHP web apps, where it's pretty much a 2 layer setup of UI and database, and there is no encapsulation/data hiding, and classes/objects aren't used much. Pointers to any material of this nature would be appreciated. Chris Baileymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Code Intensity http://www.codeintensity.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] php hosting
I was on Hurricane Electric for a very short while. They have great facilities and such, but their pricing can be much higher than others depending on your setup. I'm now using Pro Hosters (www.prohosters.com). The differences I found important were: - HE requires you to have a separate account for each domain name. This means a separate login, a bill for each one, etc. So, if you have 5 domains, it may cost you 5x more. Pro Hosters has a single login, single account setup (if you want), much easier to manage. - Pro Hosters seems to keep their PHP and other software versions more up to date. Last time I checked, HE's PHP version was a fairly early 4.x version, that for example, didn't have a bunch of array functions. - Pro Hosters support is awesome. They are incredibly responsive. Plus, they have IRC chat going all the time, and they are right there to respond, helpful, etc. - Pro Hosters was a lot easier to deal with for setup, configuration, and any other help I needed. Aside from that, the pricing is pretty similar for a single domain name setup, features are fairly similar, but I've been much happier on Pro Hosters. Pro Hosters lower end accounts (which I'm using) are run on a big cluster of machines (running FreeBSD and Apache, PHP, MySQL, Perl, etc.). It's slick. They do have a web application that you use to file service requests and such, and I think it can either, or will be able to show you all your web site statistics and so on. -Original Message- From: Michael A. Peters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 2:27 PM To: Heidi Belal Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] php hosting On Sat, 20 Oct 2001 11:29:19 -0700 (PDT) Heidi Belal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anybody know of good reliable hosting that supports > php, and has a control panel to go with it? Don't know what you mean by a control panel, but http://he.com/ is an excellent host. Very inexpensive, and you get full MySQL database as well as php and cgi-bin. They have a lot of bandwidth, too. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Michael A. Peters http://24.5.29.77:10080/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] IDE for Linux
You can try ActiveState's Komodo. http://www.activestate.com/Products/ASPN_Komodo/ It supports PHP, Perl, Python, etc., has a debugger, pretty cool editor, etc. It's only a 1.0 (at least the last time I used it), but was pretty solid for a 1.0. What are you looking for in an IDE? Instead of an "IDE" I use Visual SlickEdit. It's a commercial editor, but it supports PHP, and does a lot of things an IDE does (it has projects & workspaces, you can do your builds in it, awesome editor, stuff like function name completion, shows you what params the function takes, etc.). -Original Message- From: Christian Dechery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 4:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP] IDE for Linux Can you guys give me some hints of IDEs for programming PHP in Linux? thanks _ . Christian Dechery . . Gaita-L Owner / Web Developer . . http://www.webstyle.com.br . . http://www.tanamesa.com.br -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] IDE for Linux
Visual SlickEdit is available on Linux, Win32, and about a dozen other platforms (except MacOS). I use it on both Windows and Linux (was one of the reasons I chose it, although now that I've used it, I have many others :) It's a great editor, worth every penny I spent on it. Komodo has a Win32 version as well. -Original Message- From: Christian Dechery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 5:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PHP] IDE for Linux At 17:20 21/10/01 -0700, you wrote: >You can try ActiveState's Komodo. >http://www.activestate.com/Products/ASPN_Komodo/ > It supports PHP, Perl, Python, etc., has a debugger, pretty cool > editor, >etc. It's only a 1.0 (at least the last time I used it), but was pretty >solid for a 1.0. > >What are you looking for in an IDE? Instead of an "IDE" I use Visual >SlickEdit. It's a commercial editor, but it supports PHP, and does a lot of >things an IDE does (it has projects & workspaces, you can do your builds in >it, awesome editor, stuff like function name completion, shows you what >params the function takes, etc.). exactly what I'm looking for... it's not for me really... It's for a friend... I develop in Win32... and use HomeSite... I tried this Komodo... but never saw this SlickEdit... does it have a win32 version??? _ . Christian Dechery . . Gaita-L Owner / Web Developer . . http://www.webstyle.com.br . . http://www.tanamesa.com.br -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] PHP editing
If you're on RedHat, then you could also use vi/vim/gvim, Emacs/XEmacs, and I think RH 6.2 probably also had Glimmer, NEdit, and some others. You could also search the archives of this list since this topic gets asked a lot :) Try Active State's Komodo (http://www.activestate.com), which is an IDE that runs on Linux and Windows and supports PHP, Perl, Python, and more. It's pretty cool. Note: I should mention that I don't work for ActiveState or have any ties to them (since I've now mentioned Komodo twice in one night of replies :) Many editors support PHP, pick your favorite and see if it has PHP syntax support (which is what I'm guessing you're after). Also, if you are telnetting in, if you're on a Windows box, then there are lots of choices, same on Mac (e.g. I think BBEdit supports PHP, Alpha probably does as well), and with editors like Visual SlickEdit, BBEdit, Emacs, GoLive, and plenty of others, they have nicely integrated FTP file open & save abilities, so you could just open your file right off the server, but edit it locally, then when you hit save, the editor automatically FTP's it back up to the server for you. -Original Message- From: Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 11:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP] PHP editing Hi, I was wondering are there any editor programs for PHP? Right now, I am using RedHat Linux 6.2 and I have to type everything by telneting into the server and using Pico. Thanks. Peter -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] how do i give optional arguments to functions??
Check out the manual section on default parameters...
But the basics are:
function top($image = "null") {
if ($image)
...
else
...
}
Or maybe:
That will set image to be null, so that you can call top either as:
top();
or
top($someimage);
-Original Message-
From: sunny AT wde [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 9:58 AM
To: php
Subject: [PHP] how do i give optional arguments to functions??
hi all!!
i'm writing functions like -
---
function top () {
echo "blah blah blah";}
---
what i want to do is make it so that i can do -
---
function top($image) {
echo "blah blah $image blah"; }
---
but also make the $image parameter in the top() as optional. so if
its not there, then tell php not to worry about it.
any ideas??
thanks!
sunny
__
Do You Yahoo!?
Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals.
http://personals.yahoo.com
--
PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] how do i give optional arguments to functions??
It could be, but then you would have two spaces in between the 2nd and 3rd
"blah", instead of just the one space. But, depending on your actual
application, this may work out.
-Original Message-
From: DL Neil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 10:41 AM
To: Arpad Tamas; Richard S. Crawford; sunny AT wde; php
Subject: Re: [PHP] how do i give optional arguments to functions??
> On Wednesday 24 October 2001 19:14, Richard S. Crawford wrote:
>
> The default value for $image parameter was missing:
>
> > function top ($image="defaultvalue") {
> > if ($image=="defaultvalue") echo "blah blah blah";
> > else echo "blah blah $image blah";
> > }
If the default value can be set to an empty string can the if statement then
be removed?
function top ($image="")
{
echo "blah blah $image blah";
}
- watch those spaces (if they're present in live data)!
=dn
--
PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] how do i give optional arguments to functions??
Yes, it definitely should :) Heh, I think I originally had "", but then new
that'd result with the double space problem, so changed it. My bad.
-Original Message-
From: John A. Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 1:28 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [PHP] how do i give optional arguments to functions??
"Chris Bailey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Check out the manual section on default parameters...
>
> But the basics are:
>
> function top($image = "null") {
> if ($image)
Shouldn't that be:
function top($image=null)
if ($image)
--
John A. Grant * I speak only for myself * (remove 'z' to reply)
Radiation Geophysics, Geological Survey of Canada, Ottawa
If you followup, please do NOT e-mail me a copy: I will read it here
--
PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] Looking for a text editor for Mac
Out of curiosity, what's wrong with BBEdit, that'd be my choice. It has color syntax highlighting for PHP, and is IMHO, the best editor on MacOS. Another one I used briefly was Alpha. So, if BBEdit isn't to your liking, maybe check out Alpha. I don't know if Alpha is still being kept up or not, but it was quite good in the past (I don't know if Alpha has PHP color syntax highlighting or not). -Original Message- From: Ladonna Green [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 12:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP] Looking for a text editor for Mac Does anyone know of a text editor for PHP similar to BBedit for the Mac 9.0 or better platform? -- Ladonna Everett-Green O'Connors Church Goods, Inc. 3720 El Cajon Blvd San Diego, CA 92105 800-854-6567 619-283-2076 fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] Debugging aids (after the style of: Error management)
Sounds like getting a stack trace in various other languages. I know that Komodo and I think maybe a couple others has a built in debugger. It may (or may not) show you a stack trace/call trace display. -Original Message- From: DL Neil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 2:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP] Debugging aids (after the style of: Error management) Don't you like the side-benefits of this list, eg that someone comes up with a question that gets your thought processes running or suggests an idea you'd not otherwise come up with!? So further to the question: > How can I know the line and the file from where a function has called. I > already know __FILE__ and __LINE__, but I don't want to transmit them in > arguments. is there a debugging facility in PHP which displays a 'map' of which functions have called which? So for example, a script crashes at line_56 in file_fred.php, which is what we've all come to know and love; but I'd like to know that it got there by the mainline calling FnOpen(), which called FnInitialise(), which in turn called FnUncleTomCobbleighAndAll(), where some incompetent happily three layers down tried to share out the spoils by dividing by zero (or whatever)... Looking in the manual I started with: < Chapter 8. Constants Predefined constants A constant is a identifier (name) for a simple value. As the name suggests, that value cannot change during the execution of the script (the magic constants __FILE__ and __LINE__ are the only exception). A constant is case-sensitive by default. By convention constants are always uppercase. > but if these two are the only "magic constants" then I'm out of luck there. So I meandered through the PHPINFO and environment variables, but nothing stood up and popped me in the eye. Anyone know better/have a bright idea? =dn -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] Text Editor with Highlighting
Check the list archives, this topic gets covered almost weekly. But, for Linux (and various others): - Visual SlickEdit is awesome, but commercial (the cost is absolutely worth it, I'm extremely satisfied). It has function name completion, parameter completion (for PHP and many other langs), and just a ton of other features. Runs on Linux, FreeBSD, Windows, and many others. - Emacs as mentioned. - vim/gvim (this would be my second choice, vim and it's graphical version gvim do nice PHP syntax highlighting). Runs on probably every platform I can think of. - ActiveState Komodo (Linux and Windows). This is an IDE for PHP, Perl, Python, and more. Has a debugger, etc. - Glimmer and NEdit probably have PHP highlighting, but I'm not sure. -Original Message- From: TD - Sales International Holland B.V. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 1:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP] Text Editor with Highlighting Hey there, I looked on the site for this but couldn't find anything about it. I'd like a list of your favorite text editors (preferable for Linux/XFree) with highlighting. I'm using beaver now, I tried cooledit but it's not me... too much functions and looks like it came from an old 386 :-). I have kde 2.1.2 which has kwrite, but it's kwrite does not yet support PHP, kde 2.2.1 does but i don't wanna download the entire kde package. Besides i think it's still in development I tried in on my laptop at home but it just makes things bold instead of all kinds of different colors. also beaver colors for in plain html and has some problems with correctly indentifying /* */ comments if you use more of em. i'm also interested in windows though and i think more people are interested so maybe somebody of the site might also want to keep track of the list so it can be put online regards -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] PHP Highlighting Text Editors
Also, Visual SlickEdit works on Windows (in addition to Linux as mentioned), and FreeBSD, OS/390, and a slew of others. There is a list of editors out there somewhere, I know someone has posted a link before. There are many editors that do this. -Original Message- From: TD - Sales International Holland B.V. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 10:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP] PHP Highlighting Text Editors Hey there, these are the editors given by you guys, thanks for the replies. If somebody could put this online on php.net it would be great. If you have anything to add please feel free to email me. Windows UltraEdit ActiveState Komodo EditPlus HTML-Kit Homesite Linux/Unix Nedit (x)emacs Visual SlickEdit vim/gvim ActiveState Komodo Beaver Cooledit KWrite (included with KDE, PHP highlighting since KDE 2.2.1 maybe 2.2.0 also haven't used that version 2.1.2 doesn't support PHP) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] Books for PHP and MySQL Class
"PHP and MySQL Web Development" by Welling and Thomson, from SAMS. ISBN 0-672-31784-2. An easy read, but covers everything you'd need. I'm a little biased as a reviewer for your particular needs, since I've been coding for many years, and thus skipped a bunch of the intro PHP language chapters, but I've occasionally check those chapters for a thing or two. Check it out, this book seems to be highly recommended. -Original Message- From: Chris Lott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 11:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP] Books for PHP and MySQL Class I'll be teaching a web development class in the Spring in which I plan to focus on PHP and MySQL as primary tools. These will be students who have experience with HTML And web design, but most will have no experience with programming at all. I need recommendations for book(s) that will serve as decent primers... I expect that the PHP book will have enough of the fundamentals of programming to set them on the right path... Any suggestions for a MySQL book would be great. If both were in one book, even better! -- Chris Lott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] Re: PHP versus all other languages
PEAR is another db abstraction layer, and potentially will be integrated into PHP. I use it for all my DB access (in PHP) now. In fact, I'd say it's more powerful and easier than using the mysql_ methods for example. PEAR uses the standard factory design pattern to determine which DB it's talking to, etc. I have not looked at Metabase so can't comment on that. -Original Message- From: Manuel Lemos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 8:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Pat Hanna Subject: [PHP] Re: PHP versus all other languages Hello, Pat Hanna wrote: > > I'm doing my senior exit project on database languages online. I'm asking > for help from anyone who can provide any information on the comparison > between the different languages. I'm comparing languages such as PHP, ASP, > ColdFussion, perl and any others that I might not know about that you guys > might know. Thank you to anyone who helps me out in the least. If you are going to compare languages for database programming, you may want to get to know Metabase which is a PHP database abstraction layer that enables you to develop database independent applications so that you can use the same application code with any of the supported DBMS with having to change anything. http://phpclasses.UpperDesign.com/browse.html/package/20 Regards, Manuel Lemos -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] Re: Version Contol for PHP site
I'm maybe a little unclear on exactly what you want. It says Version Control in the subject, but then PHP debugging and such is discussed below. To me the two are independent subjects. So, some more general info... For version control I'd suggest either CVS or Perforce, depending on budget :) CVS is obviously free, and is quite good. You definitely want to run the server portion of it on a UNIX/Linux box, but you can use it quite easily from Windows with WinCVS or you can probably integrate CVS commands into your editor (depending on your editor/IDE). Perforce is a superb source code management tool, but it costs money (although it's price is reasonable). It has some nice features over CVS (such as the whole atomic checkin process, which once you use/work this way, you'll be bummed that they don't all have it - I heard CVS 2 may do this if that ever happens). You can get Perforce for free if you only have 2 (or less) users. It works very well on Windows and has a nice GUI. You can also run the server on Windows NT/2000. Just about any version control system will work for your PHP, HTML, CSS, and any other source code you have. Basically they're all text files, and that's where these systems work best because they can help with merges and diffing and obviously keep track of differences between revisions. You can do your development work on any platform and use typically UNIX/Linux or Windows for a server for source control, deployment, etc. Version control is just that, it is up to you how you employ it in terms of your development environment. I would think most people use it most strictly for version control, and have scripts on their staging and/or deployment system where they pull a snapshot of code down, do a "build" (which may be compiling CGI scripts, or may just mean copying the files to the appropriate place on the server), and then fire up the server. Your developers would do similar things, just on their own machine (I assume they have a similar environment setup as the deployment, e.g. they're running a web server with mod_php or whatever). Hope that helps. -Original Message- From: John Lim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 10:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP] Re: Version Contol for PHP site Hi Jeff There is a Windows version of WinCVS (see http://wincvs.org/ ). John Jeff Bearer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 1006195598.1407.7.camel@jbearer">news:1006195598.1407.7.camel@jbearer... > Hello, > I'm trying to come up with a workable solution to implement version > control for our site. I have developers that use windows, and don't > know too much about the unix command line, so I'd prefer to use a > windows client to work on the site if possible. > > I'm looking into CVS for the version control and I've found some > directions on how to use it with websites. But it only talks about > static HTML development, it doesn't say how developers would debug PHP, > CGI, etc. This solution would not give them any ability to debug their > code before checking it back in. > > I suppose if I could get them all comfortable with the UNIX command > line, they could work on the development server, checking out the files > to a working directory that is also a virtual host. > > A new idea that I just came up with would be to have the developers use > VNC viewer to connect to an X server on the development box. The > deveopers could use a X GUI for CVS to check it out, and edit files etc. > and keep the working directory a virtual host like above. > > Is anybody doing something like this with their PHP development? Any > direction from a working implementation would be great. And what do you > think about the VNC idea that I just came up with? > > -- > Jeff Bearer, RHCE > Webmaster > PittsburghLIVE.com > -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] Very interesting and challenging question
You could read the file in with file(), which will give you each line as an array. Then, depending on how those strings are separated (are they by tabs, or is it just whitespace?), use strtok() to tokenize each line. If they are by space, not tab, but you know the column width, then you can just pull out each part by using substr() or similar. For the non lap/time records, just check whether the string starts with a number or not, and if not check if it starts with the known labels, e.g. "Caution Flags". -Original Message- From: Dan McCullough [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 9:01 AM To: PHP General List Subject: [PHP] Very interesting and challenging question I need to take a file, similar to this and strip it of everything but this, and write it to a database. Are there any thoughts on how to get the information out, all the files are consistent. Race Final Watkins Glen International 2.450 miles31 laps Fin Str Driver Laps Led Pts Qual Reason Out 1 2 18 Dynamike18 31 24 185 118.007 Running 2 7 68 jcordeiro310 170 116.078 Running 3 5 80 MattyJ140310 165 116.881 Running 4 1 28 RUDD#28 316 165 118.219 Running 5 13 57 1SpeedDemon 310 155 Running 6 9 84 legends3 311 155 115.131 Running 7 3 56 RobertFx3D 310 146 117.854 Running 8 12 55 24skids 310 142 98.644 Running 9 4 53 Mark_O_10310 138 117.323 Running 10 8 91 JJinsane 310 134 116.061 Running 11 108 beertipper 310 130 114.154 Running 12 11 44 Wis>OutLaw 100 127 111.022 DNF 13 6 51 BdgrOtlw 30 124 116.702 DNF Race time - 72:52.030 Average speed - 62.538mph Margin of victory - 1.944sec Caution flags - 7 # of lead changes - 3 Weather - Clear 70^ E 0mph thanks for any help = Dan McCullough --- "Theres no such thing as a problem unless the servers are on fire!" h: 603.444.9808 w: McCullough Family w: At Work __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] Good host needed
Check the mailing list archives. This topic comes up about once a month or so, and a lot of good hosts have been listed, all of which support PHP, MySQL, and typically have SSH or at least telnet access, FTP access, etc. -Original Message- From: Rudi Ahlers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 1:11 PM To: PHP General Subject: [PHP] Good host needed Hi guys. I know this is OT, but I don't know where else to ask. I'm in South Africa, and I'm looking for a GOOD webserver host in the States. Bandwidth is a big thing, as well as using UNIX, else Linux. I would like to be able to manage the server from home,and not phone in every I need to do something. And I'm looking for good bandwidth. Any recommendation will do, as I'll be looking at all the companies, and see who offers the best. Thanx Rudi Ahlers -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] OO question
You can use the special name "parent". e.g.:
parent::baseClassFunction();
-Original Message-
From: christian calloway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 2:16 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [PHP] OO question
I want to be able to override a function/method in a parent class, but then
call that function/method from within the overriden function in the child
class. The Zend documentation states you can do this:
"In PHP 4.0 you can call member functions of other classes from within
member functions or from within the global scope. You can now, for instance,
override a parent function with a child function, and then call the parent
function from it."
But how do you do it? From the following syntax:
class childclass extends parentclass
..
function overridenFunction()
{
// call parent function wich this function overrides.
$this->overridenFunction()
...
}
Would the method being calling the parent method or would it be calling
itself?
--
PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[PHP] How to do "Add More"/expanding forms?
I have a page that is for a little recipe database app. On the page where you enter your recipe, there is a set of form fields for ingredients - one line per ingredient, and a couple of fields per (e.g. amount, measurement, ingredient). I'd like to have say 5-10 ingredient lines in the form by default, but put an "Add More" button next to the last one that will let the user say add 5 more ingredient lines to the form. How can I do this? The problem for me is that I figure I'd want the Add More button to either do a POST to the same page (and add a parameter indicating the number of ingredient lines to use or something like that), but that the standard form Submit/Add Recipe button would go to a different PHP page that actually inserted the recipe into the database. But, this requires two forms and thus I'd lose the recipe's form variables when hitting one or the other of the buttons. I've looked around online for solutions to this, but haven't found any. Can someone point me in the right direction? Chris Baileymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Code Intensity http://www.codeintensity.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] GOOD web hosting
If anyone knows of such a setup in the US that achieves that cost with that amount of space, I too would be interested. But, short of that, at least one solution is Hurricane Electric. They have a variety of "self serve" web plans, ranging from $10/month on up. It includes PHP and MySQL, runs on Apache, etc. You get full shell access (duh), and also 11 or more POP boxes (11 for the $10/month, then it increases as you go up). Check out: http://www.he.net/spaceservices.html -Original Message- From: Seb Frost [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 3:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP] GOOD web hosting I thought I had good web hosting, but I don't. They're often very slow and frequently (I'd say at least an hour every day) my site is inaccessable. Today I've barely been able to get on it at all. So I'm moving. I'm in the UK. Is it stupid for me to go with a US hoster? And either way who do you recommend? Obviously I want php and mysql support, and a few hundred megs of space, and NOT paying through the roof. $20/month tops. - seb --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.274 / Virus Database: 144 - Release Date: 23/08/2001 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] GOOD web hosting
Someone else just mentioned this one to me, looks very inexpensive: http://www.simonweb.com/standardunix/index.htm -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] book help
There is a ton of great stuff online as someone else mentioned. You might also want to check out phpbuilder.com, and zend.com for their various articles and tutorials. As for books, depending on what you're after, I highly recommend: "PHP and MySQL Web Development" by Welling and Thomson. This is also a book that is selling super well. I've read it nearly cover to cover and thought it was great. By a "beginner in PHP" I'm not sure if that means you're only a beginner at PHP (i.e. you have experience with other languages). I use a lot of other languages so I blew through the language tutorial parts pretty quickly, so not sure how that stacks up to say some of the WROX books or various others. You might also want to read the reader reviews on Amazon, that's how I found out about the above book. -Original Message- From: Nikola Veber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 10:36 AM To: php forum Subject: [PHP] book help I am a begginer in php and I have bought the Sterling Huges' "php developer's cookbook" since it was the only book I could find. Is it a good choise ? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] SOAP Tool Kit for PHP
You could also consider possibly the reverse of what you're doing. I'm not sure if it would actually work well, nor can I give you real details on how to do it, but you can always use Java classes from PHP. Depending on how much SOAP is needed/used across your site, you could continue with PHP for the bulk of your site, and just use Java classes to handle the SOAP stuff when needed. The primary issue I don't know about since I haven't looked into it, is whether it's reasonable to have PHP receive the initial SOAP request and how you would then hand it off to the Java classes for processing, etc. Anyway, just a thought... -Original Message- From: Dahnke, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 8:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP] SOAP Tool Kit for PHP My god does PHP need one. Or a library of functions to use. Yes, I have built in CURL support and am reading the $HTTP_RAW_DATA_POST variable and rolling my own as they say, but it sure would be nice. I've seen Manual Lemos' soap classes, and they are cool, but aren't really what I need. PHP is fast, has beautiful syntax and I love it, but I think it needs to grow up a bit. I don't mean to start a war, but it is true, php needs to evolve into something beyond a newbie language great for producing db driven web-sites. I wish I could help, and after a few more C classes I will be able to, but until then, I can only hope some C wizard is producing something like this. Web-services are going to be big. Independent of .net (*uck MS), but the messaging (SOAP) paradigm over http is going to be big. How does php fit in there? It looks as though we're headed over to tomcat, and I'm probably going to bring a bunch of php developers with me. And that sucks, because tomcat is slow, and it takes twice as long to produce an application w/ non masters level or big time CS people. The first thing I'm going to try though is running php as a servlet under tomcat, but it's only to get at the apache soap tools. See what I mean. Thanks to all the php developers. 'gards - Eric -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] SOAP Tool Kit for PHP
Check out this page of SOAP implementations: http://www.soapware.org/directory/4/implementations It lists several for PHP, so those may give you a solution. This is an interesting issue though, especially in light of you bringing up Tomcat. I don't mean to start a big flame war over languages, but this is one thing I struggle with in PHP land too. I've been doing Java stuff for years, and am just starting to develop a few things in PHP. PHP is fast and easy to use, and a lot easier to setup than Tomcat (or worse, Apache+Tomcat, and further, if you have a non-standard directory structure). But, what I've found so far, is that if I need to do pretty much anything beyond a simple web app that is mostly a database client, Java just has so many more libraries and resources available, from SOAP, to XML, XSL, and more. While it's not true that PHP doesn't have any of this, it just seems there is more momentum and solidity behind these types of things for Java. For example, I'm working on a web app that does a lot of XSL processing, and immediately I can just grab the various Apache XML and XSL toolkits and get rolling. On PHP I can look into Sablotron and some stuff, but I don't get a feeling that I'd have near the level of functionality, and quality (or solidity/maturity of code) as I would with the various Java based tools. -Original Message- From: Dahnke, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 10:46 AM To: 'Chris Bailey' Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [PHP] SOAP Tool Kit for PHP Thanks. That's what I'm doing, and it is working, but it doesn't seem like it will be very robust, and I don't know if my roll your own will be compliant with MS SOAP messages and Apache SOAP messages. I'm reading the Soap:Envelope and Body XML via the $HTTP_RAW_DATA_POST variable. It comes as a string. I parse that XML to determine the method to invode (create, edit whatever). It works, but just seems sketch. Especially the ack back to the poster. It says 200 OK, because the host and file I'm posting to are found, but if there is an error in the method or anywhere else, I'm supposed build the SOAP:Fault XML and send that back. I mean all the IP functions in PHP are so nice, and SOAP is an IP service as well. Why no love for SOAP? -Original Message- From: Chris Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 1:30 PM To: Dahnke, Eric; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PHP] SOAP Tool Kit for PHP You could also consider possibly the reverse of what you're doing. I'm not sure if it would actually work well, nor can I give you real details on how to do it, but you can always use Java classes from PHP. Depending on how much SOAP is needed/used across your site, you could continue with PHP for the bulk of your site, and just use Java classes to handle the SOAP stuff when needed. The primary issue I don't know about since I haven't looked into it, is whether it's reasonable to have PHP receive the initial SOAP request and how you would then hand it off to the Java classes for processing, etc. Anyway, just a thought... -Original Message- From: Dahnke, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 8:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP] SOAP Tool Kit for PHP My god does PHP need one. Or a library of functions to use. Yes, I have built in CURL support and am reading the $HTTP_RAW_DATA_POST variable and rolling my own as they say, but it sure would be nice. I've seen Manual Lemos' soap classes, and they are cool, but aren't really what I need. PHP is fast, has beautiful syntax and I love it, but I think it needs to grow up a bit. I don't mean to start a war, but it is true, php needs to evolve into something beyond a newbie language great for producing db driven web-sites. I wish I could help, and after a few more C classes I will be able to, but until then, I can only hope some C wizard is producing something like this. Web-services are going to be big. Independent of .net (*uck MS), but the messaging (SOAP) paradigm over http is going to be big. How does php fit in there? It looks as though we're headed over to tomcat, and I'm probably going to bring a bunch of php developers with me. And that sucks, because tomcat is slow, and it takes twice as long to produce an application w/ non masters level or big time CS people. The first thing I'm going to try though is running php as a servlet under tomcat, but it's only to get at the apache soap tools. See what I mean. Thanks to all the php developers. 'gards - Eric -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://ww
RE: [PHP] A powerful editor!
I personally use Visual SlickEdit as my primary editor for almost any coding work. But, it's commercial. Having said that, in light of this being a PHP list, another one to throw out there is Active State's Komodo (which doesn't run on the Mac, so stick with BBEdit there - which is a superb choice :) Komodo is kinda interesting. It runs on Linux and Windows. It is good for PHP, Perl, Python, and ok for a few others. It's in an early state, but it's usable, and not half bad. It does all your standard syntax highlighting and such. But, it also has PHP debugging, and on the fly syntax checking which is pretty cool. Also, I think it was the editor that had this slick thing (well, I thought so anyway) where it drew vertical lines down to delimit blocks of code. i.e. it would draw a line from the first character of the opening line of a block (e.g. a for statement), to the closing line (usually the closing brace). It was pretty subtle, it's not a big black line. Another cool idea is that the blocks of code are collapsible (some other editors have this too, maybe even SlickEdit, but I haven't tried it). Anyway, for a 1.0, Komodo is quite good. As for why I use Visual SlickEdit, there are many reasons (after I've evaluated more editors, IDE's, and so on than I ever have should spent so much time on). But, a few of the highlights, for my needs include: - runs on Windows and Linux and looks and works identically - Edits any kind of code, and specifically has syntax highlighting and other language specific features for all the languages I use (Java, C/C++, Perl, Python, PHP, XML, sh, SQL, XSLT, etc.) - Extremely configurable. And, can be configured on a file type basis, which was important to me (e.g. to change things like tab or indentation settings per file type) - Can use an FTP connection just like a disk (e.g. open files and save files via FTP, but where it's pretty seamless to you). - Wheelmouse works (don't laugh! I'm addicted to the damn scroll wheel!) - Code beautifier. This is super handy when I run across a chunk of code that does not fit the coding standards/styles I need to use. I can just select it, and quickly run the beautifier (for which you can set up an unlimited number of styles for any needs you have, different styles for the same file/language types, different styles say if you have different coding standards at each company you work for (e.g. great for contractors/consultants). - And this email is already getting too long, and I'm furthering a potential religious debate on editors (hey, I don't use Emacs, and I only use vi/vim for quick stuff, so maybe we can avoid that debate ;) Anyway, it was well worth the money I spent on it... -Original Message- From: Michael A. Peters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 10:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] A powerful editor! I personally like BBEdit 6.1 the best. 'course, since bbedit don't run on Linux, I end up using NEdit and vim quite a bit as well... On Tue, 2 Oct 2001 13:57:23 -0700 "Dean Householder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I used to use TextPad until I found EditPlus. I'm also amazed by it's > power. It has more than I could even use including everything TextPad has > and nicer colors for the different styles. You can find it at > http://www.editplus.com. > > Dean Householder > Daylight Creations > http://www.daylightcreations.com > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Michael A. Peters http://24.5.29.77:10080/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] Re: PHP is a Bloated Kludge, discuss!
Ben, I think you hit on one of the key points of PHP in the latter part of your email. My take is that PHP is designed to be quick to learn, quick to use, and somewhat simple (not in a bad way). I agree that as compared to most languages, more than usual is packed into the base system. But, given the speed of PHP, and that these are likely heavily used pieces anyway, it doesn't seem so bad. I think once you step away from what's in the base PHP distro, then PHP is nearly as modular as anything else. As Oliver mentioned, you can use classes nicely (not as good as Java or Python, but not bad), and you can obviously split your code up into many files, include what you need, etc. I'm not clear on the comments about an include bringing in everything even if it's in an if that evaluates to false. Java is no better in this case really, and neither is C++ or various others. Also, PHP actually does have a way of only including something in a section of code that gets run (i.e. it's included at runtime, not parse time). This is the difference between include_once() and require_once(). So, if you only want something included if some expression evaluates to true, just stick an include_once() inside that expression's scope. If I misunderstood your comments about this, my apologies, and maybe you can elaborate here. -Original Message- From: Oliver Ruf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 8:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP] Re: PHP is a Bloated Kludge, discuss! Well about beeing modular... Have you ever programmed java ?? Java is very modular and everyting in java is programmed with classes. So... PHP also suports classes. Now you should be able to build your own modularity as you like it... Enough said... -Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ben Edwards) wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]:">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: > (From behind filing cabinet where I am ducking preparing for flames). > > Is it just me or is there anyone else that thinks PHP suffers from not > being modular. Let me explain myself. If you write a module for a lot > of procedural languages it sits on the filling system and is called up > when it is needed , loaded into memory and executed. There maybe some > cashing which happens but this is basically how it works. > > PHP on the other hand seems to load in ALL the code that MAY be run. > i.e. an include brings things in which are inside an if, even if the > if equates to false. > > This means that the language is not extendible in the way others are. > If you do write a function you wish to include in 'only the pages you > wish to use' you have to first include it, then call it. > > This has also meant that things like spell checking functions are built > into the core module rather than called in as or when they are needed. > > Then there is the way database connectivity is handled. > > There are a load of functions (again in the core language) with there > NAMES containing the name of the database you are connecting to. > > For example all MySQL functions are mysql_something and I guess all > oracle ones are oracle_something. This would only be a minor > inconvenience because wrapper functions can be written but from what I > can gather different databases have different functionality available. > > I know this is partly because different databases have different > functionality. what I would expect to see is a load of generic > function which attempt to provide same functionality where it is > available or implement some of the functionality themselves. Obviously > for some of the less sophisticated databases these functions would have > to do more work and maybe some functionality wouldn't be available in > certain databases (but only the things like stored procedures). > > Got a nast feeling that ASP (spit) does something like this. > > You may cry, it cant be done. however I remember a connectivity > product that came from Borland (this was back in the Paradox Days) > which did just this, it even had transaction handling built into this > connectivity layer for DBase! > > Anyway I am playing Devils Advocate. > > What I do like about PHP is how quickly it can be learnt and how quick > you can build apps with it. Maybe this is at the expense of elegance. > Maybe PHP5 will address these issues -;) > > And there are certainly some very busy PHP sites, you should see the > traffic levels on indymedia.org during anti-capitalist demonstrations > and I am sure during the New York attacks they went belistic. > > Regards, > Ben > > -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] Flexible, "Component-based" and Large Application Systems in PHP
I'd be interested in seeing this too. The typical statement I see when comparing PHP to Java is that PHP is faster. But, factoring that out for a moment (I have yet to see a real benchmark proving this in a large system, but that's probably not an easy thing to compare/do)... How about just comparing implementing a large system in terms of language and operational features? To me, one comparison I make is that PHP is kind of like JSP in how it is typically used, but that JSP/Java presents standards for components (JavaBeans) and various other aspects. "Java" has more structure or given implementations in terms of enterprise technologies, and for things like XML has further along implementations and more robust systems. I use both Java and PHP, but I find that I use PHP for small, primarily database backed projects, and that I use Java for large scale projects (this can also be read: I use PHP for most of my personal projects, and Java for work and any real heavy duty or XML oriented personal projects). It's good to see this kind of discussion. I don't think it's necessary either to say one is flat out better than the other. It seems it's most useful to simply know when it makes sense to use one or the other, and to know what the strengths and weaknesses of each of them are so that once you do make a choice, it's an informed one, and you know what to be aware of when doing your design and implementation. -Original Message- From: Lucas Persona [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 10:51 AM To: php-list Subject: [PHP] Flexible, "Component-based" and Large Application Systems in PHP Greetings, I'd like to know if anyone has any material regarding the use of PHP on large projects that needs to be flexible and kind of 'component based' (like multiples modules) and what were the benefits and problems found during development/deployment/runtime. I think something like JavaBeans could make it but am not sure if PHP can hadle that too with great success and perhaps, faster than JavaBeans. If anyone has some material on creating (structure) of a system like this with PHP or other related material about this topic (like disadvantages in using PHP for this) I would be glad. Thanks, Lucas Persona -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] Database editor
Also try Mascon and FreeMascon. Note, these run on Win32, so the other tool someone mentioned is not the one and only Win32 tool for this :) FreeMason will let you edit tables and such. Step up to Mascon to get things like administrative editing. http://www.scibit.com/Products/Software/Utils/Mascon.htm -Original Message- From: -:-Doigy-:- [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 4:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP] Database editor Hi Folks, I'm after a quick and easy way to edit tables in a mySQL database, much like you would in ms excel. I'm thinking I'll do it with forms... Is there a non-commerical solution in existance already? Cheers, Steve -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] Database editor
As a couple others posted, if you want it to be PHP, then phpMyAdmin, http://sourceforge.net/projects/phpmyadmin. -Original Message- From: MrBaseball34 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 9:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PHP] Database editor In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says... > Also try Mascon and FreeMascon. Note, these run on Win32, so the other tool > someone mentioned is not the one and only Win32 tool for this :) > > FreeMason will let you edit tables and such. Step up to Mascon to get > things like administrative editing. > > http://www.scibit.com/Products/Software/Utils/Mascon.htm > This is a Win32-based editor, anything using PHP for the web? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
