[PHP] Re: PHP vs. ColdFusion

2005-06-27 Thread Anton Kovalenko
PHP is open source. It's highly supported by lots of developers.
It's free. There are many different libraries such as PEAR, for instance.
There many free frameworks for creating convinient modular and easyly
managebale applications both web and command line.
I can name mojavi.org as a brilliant MVC pattern implementation for PHP5,
propel (propel.phpdb.org)
and metastorage (http://www.meta-language.net/metastorage.html)  as
OOtoR transformation frameworks.

As to ColdFusion, It seems to me that this technology is dead already.


Rick Emery wrote:
> My employer has (finally) decided to take full advantage of our
> intranet, and wants to move from client-server applications to web-based
> applications. To that end, we're trying to determine the best platform
> for our applications. We're a Microsoft shop, with Microsoft SQL Server
> 2000 for all of our databases (that won't change any time soon, if
> ever). Due to past experience that I won't get into, we (the Development
> group) have all agreed that ASP.Net is out (at least for the short term).
> 
> We had the opportunity to visit a local enterprise that has deployed
> ColdFusion, and they couldn't stop singing its praises. I'm partial to
> PHP, even after sampling Coldfusion, so what I would like is some
> "ammunition" that I can take into a meeting to "sell" management on PHP
> instead of ColdFusion. I've already been harping on the difference in
> cost, so I'm looking for other points to go with. Besides, we'll
> probably invest in Zend products if we choose PHP, and Macromedia has
> government rates available; I don't have any numbers (yet), but the cost
> difference may not be that great in the end.
> 
> Any input would be greatly appreciated. Opinions are welcome (especially
> from programmers with experience in both), but I have to "sell" it to
> management (I'm already on the PHP side), so links to data or articles
> comparing the two are best.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Rick

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Re: [PHP] Re: PHP vs. ColdFusion

2005-06-30 Thread Anton Kovalenko


Richard Lynch wrote:
>>Quoting Anton Kovalenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>
>>
>>>As to ColdFusion, It seems to me that this technology is dead already.
>>
>>What makes you say this? I had never heard anything like this, but it
>>would certainly be powerful ammunition to present to my bosses.
> 
> 
> Perhaps some sort of web market penetration analysis...
Hi all!
Unfortunatelly, I cant say that my thoughts of this kind were inspired
by some sort of web market analysis. I do work as a web development team
manager, act as an webprojects architect and also I'm realy very
interested in modern development technologies. So, I do hear a lot of
Python, Java, PHP which is becoming more and more serious development
tool for both well-educated and experienced programmers and school-boys
who just want to create their own guestbook/webchat. And for a couple of
last years I haven't heard of ColdFusion much.
I have some sort of example here. ozon.ru -- the largest Russian online
bookstore (it's not a bookstore now -- it's a supermarket like
amazon.com) was the first Russian e-commerse project, which looked
seriously in 1997. It was created using ColdFusion. But several months
ago (maybe year and a half -- don't remember) it was recreated with MS ASP.
I do have some dozens of freinds who work as web-developers. The use
Java, ASP.Net, PHP. I know none, who uses ColdFusion in his work, though
ColdFusion is a relatevly old technology.
So, that's my ugly point -)

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