Re: [PHP] CSS vs. Tables OT
On 4/17/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, 2007-04-17 at 18:53 -0500, Larry Garfield wrote: > On Tuesday 17 April 2007 3:40 pm, Robert Cummings wrote: > > > > BTW, any web developer worth his or her salt with a reasonable amount of > > > practice can make CSS layouts that resize as well as table based layouts > > > everyday of the week. I will refer you to http://www.csszengarden.com/ > > > > Only with hacks. > > Using tables for layout *is* a hack. A common one, but still a hack. No, it's old school, the only way to do complex layout in the past. At least tables are backward and forward compatible. CSS is only semi-forward compatible. Cheers, Rob. I've never never had used tables for layouts (I worked on pretty complicated projects)... Heck, http://espn.com is CSS based, and it looks pretty darn amazing. Just my quick thought on this. :) -- Anna Vester Web Designer http://www.veanndesign.com
Re: [PHP] CSS vs. Tables OT
On 4/17/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, 2007-04-17 at 21:28 -0500, Anna V wrote: > On 4/17/07, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Tue, 2007-04-17 at 18:53 -0500, Larry Garfield wrote: > > > On Tuesday 17 April 2007 3:40 pm, Robert Cummings wrote: > > > > > > > > BTW, any web developer worth his or her salt with a reasonable > > amount of > > > > > practice can make CSS layouts that resize as well as table based > > layouts > > > > > everyday of the week. I will refer you to > > http://www.csszengarden.com/ > > > > > > > > Only with hacks. > > > > > > Using tables for layout *is* a hack. A common one, but still a hack. > > > > No, it's old school, the only way to do complex layout in the past. At > > least tables are backward and forward compatible. CSS is only > > semi-forward compatible. > > > > Cheers, > > Rob. > > > > > I've never never had used tables for layouts (I worked on pretty > complicated projects)... Heck, http://espn.com is CSS based, and it looks > pretty darn amazing. Just my quick thought on this. :) They certainly use CSS AND they use table for the main layout. Thank you, thank you very much. Cheers, Rob. -- Looks like, the only table they use is for the ad_container. -- Anna Vester Web Designer http://www.veanndesign.com
Re: [PHP] CSS vs. Tables OT
On 4/17/07, Paul Novitski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: At 4/17/2007 07:53 PM, Robert Cummings wrote: >On Tue, 2007-04-17 at 21:28 -0500, Anna V wrote: > > I've never never had used tables for layouts (I worked on pretty > > complicated projects)... Heck, http://espn.com is CSS based, and it looks > > pretty darn amazing. Just my quick thought on this. :) > >They certainly use CSS AND they use table for the main layout. Just to be accurate: if you look at the espn.com source you'll see that the only table on the page contains an advertisement in the masthead and doesn't contain the main layout. Because it's the exception and because it's an ad, my guess is that it's markup imposed on the designers from the outside. I didn't see a similar structure on the few sub-pages I glanced at, so it doesn't appear to be part of the overall layout strategy. Regards, Paul Exactly, that's what I was trying to express... sometimes you can not control what is coming to your website through advertisements' content. -- Anna