Re: [PHP] Sniping on the List
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Robert Cummings wrote: > http://shorl.com/tebrakefesahe > ROFLMAO!!! Thanks Robert for starting off a good Friday for me :D -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: Re: [PHP] Sniping on the List
On 18 Nov 2011 at 05:40, Robert Cummings wrote: > without a proof it's just farts in the wind :) No more valid than a > theory of creation or the big ass spaghetti thingy majingy dude. Folded The "theory" of creation is not a theory. It's a hypothesis, as is "scientific creationism". > Thus before the big bang > is perfectly valid whether we could perceive it or not. Not really. It's as meaningless as asking what's north of the North Pole. -- Cheers -- Tim -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Sniping on the List
> -Original Message- > From: Fredric L. Rice [mailto:fr...@sonic.net] > Sent: November 17, 2011 6:25 PM > To: Stuart Dallas > Cc: Tedd Sperling; PHP List > Subject: Re: [PHP] Sniping on the List > > >> Consider this -- do you think the second before > >> the "Big Bang" was negative or null? > > I don't know. There's no point concerning ourselves > > with unanswerable questions. > > The question itself is a logical absurdity since there was no time prior > to the Big Bang. The advent of time began when the dimention we perceive > as the passage of time froze out of folded reality during the expansion > phases's symmertry breaking period, there is not only no answer to what > happened before, even suggesting there *was* a before is not possible. > > It's another nail in the coffin of deity constructors. And here I thought that "The Big Bang Theory" was a funny sitcom? Damn... where have I been all this time? Maybe since I wasn't around to witness it happening, it didn't really happen, and this is just my own reality, that you guys happen to be a part of, in my subconscious? Besides, are we not just all part of "The Matrix" ? (what's even more funny, is that I drive a Toyota Matrix... WEIRD) Steven Staples Web Application Programmer -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Sniping on the List
On 11-11-18 05:15 AM, Tim Streater wrote: On 18 Nov 2011 at 05:40, Robert Cummings wrote: without a proof it's just farts in the wind :) No more valid than a theory of creation or the big ass spaghetti thingy majingy dude. Folded The "theory" of creation is not a theory. It's a hypothesis, as is "scientific creationism". From Merriam-Webster's online dictionary: Hypothesis - Synonyms: theory, proposition, supposition, thesis http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hypothesis Thus before the big bang is perfectly valid whether we could perceive it or not. Not really. It's as meaningless as asking what's north of the North Pole. No, this is a false analogy. Again from Merriam-Webster: north pole: the northernmost point of the earth As such, by definition there can be no further north than the north pole. No such equivalent exists for the big bang event. Beginning of the universe? YES. Beginning of time? NO! Given the discussion, I think the following is in order: BAZINGA * 2 Thank you, I won't be here all day! Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Sniping on the List
Robert Cummings wrote: Robert Cummings wrote: > > Given the discussion, I think the following is in order: BAZINGA * 2 And what does any of this have to do with PHP? It's time to end this thread. --Curtis
Re: [PHP] Sniping on the List
>> It's another nail in the coffin of deity constructors. > Not even slightly. Totally since deity constructors only started to exist after the second generation of stars formed since the advent of hadronic life. > But none of this has anything even vaguely related to PHP. Sure it does, the origins of the universe for Linux is January 1st, 1970, just as it is for PHP epoc time. Time for Unix didn't exist prior to that since there was no prior. People who *think* they were born before 1970 are mistaken. To further prove my point, try searching for any reference to PHP prior to January 1st, 1970. It does not exist. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Sniping on the List
rc> However, what is valid is to take a point of rc> reference in time and infer a period before rc> it. Thus before the big bang is perfectly valid rc> whether we could perceive it or not. It's a question of asking what existed before anything existed, though. The answer is not even "nothing" since nothing is something. There's also something bizarre and ironic in having Unix and Windows-based epoc sidereal time firmly rooted in a non-event that didn't happen over 41 years ago. The irony is that Unix epoc time wraps the supposed Mithratic Jesus birth date which also didn't happen, our computers are delusional but also logical -- amusing. This whole PHP thing about epoc time is amusing since there remains the question of what frame of reference the first second of Unix time is predicated upon. January 1st 1970 has no reality, it was never real, it was an abritrary symbol etched in to Unix to reference how many vibrations of an atom excited by a cessium rubidium maser in Goldstone, Colorado there has been since an arbitrary frame of reference. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: Re: [PHP] Sniping on the List
rc> Thus before the big bang is perfectly rc> valid whether we could perceive it or not. ts> Not really. It's as meaningless as asking ts> what's north of the North Pole. That's an interesting point. If you stand at the North Pole where all lines of reference converge, there is still Galactic North and True North if one's reference frame is Magnetic North. There are no privelaged frames of references UNLESS there is only ONE singular frame of reference. The Big Bang is a singularity event, there were no reference points in existance until the Big Bang, ergo you're so right, even saying "before the Big Bang" isn't even wrong. :) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] problem with sending AT command in php
In The Name Of Allah
Thank you all for attentions ;
Weird but solved with using another symbolink of Device
Weird because other App in linux in the same time were using for example
/dev/ttyusb1 but php code works with /dev/ttyusb3 ..
Regards dehqan
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 7:39 PM, Richard Quadling wrote:
> On 15 November 2011 15:12, Mike Mackintosh
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Nov 15, 2011, at 8:25, Richard Quadling wrote:
> >
> >> On 15 November 2011 11:50, a dehqan wrote:
> >>> \n is for Linux
> >>> \r is for Windows
> >>>
> >>> On 11/14/11, Richard Quadling wrote:
> On 12 November 2011 20:02, a dehqan wrote:
> > dio_write($handle, 'AT') & dio_write($handle, "AT") make firefox
> times out
> > on Waiting for localhost ... .
> > But dio_write($handle, "AT\n") makes it prints AT exactly the same
> command
> > or A > A , ..
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 10:02 PM, Negin Nickparsa
> > wrote:
> >
> >> are you sure about ATD03518726535\n?
> >>
> >> can you try if ( dio_write($handle, 'AT') )?
> >>
> >
>
> Don't use \n, use \r.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT_commands#Example_session
>
>
>
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> >>>
> >>
> >> No, \r is the requirement of the modem. Nothing to do with the OS.
> >>
> >> Windows uses \r\n as its line terminators, but when you talk to a
> >> modem, you use \r.
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >
> > I've had better luck with PHP_EOL instead of \r or \n.
>
> I think I've not explained myself properly.
>
> The modem wants a carriage return. That is a \r.
>
> It doesn't matter what OS you are on. If you don't send the right
> string to the modem, then the modem won't process it properly.
>
> If your OS maps \r to PHP_EOL, then, obviously PHP_EOL will be just
> fine. But I would recommend ...
>
> define('CR', chr(13));
> ?>
>
>
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Re: [PHP] Sniping on the List
On 11-11-18 10:03 AM, Curtis Maurand wrote: Robert Cummings wrote: Robert Cummings wrote: Given the discussion, I think the following is in order: BAZINGA * 2 And what does any of this have to do with PHP? It's time to end this thread. It's Friday... traditionally content anal-ness has been somewhat disregarded on this day. Need one go through the archives to see if you're being a tad hypocritical? Cheese, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
