Re: [PHP] Saving form data into session before leaving a page
On Wed, 2010-04-14 at 06:49 +0100, Lester Caine wrote: > Nathan Rixham wrote: > > Peter Lind wrote: > >> On 13 April 2010 17:27, Paul M Foster wrote: > >>> On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 03:20:23PM +0200, Merlin Morgenstern wrote: > >>> > Hello everybody, > > I have form where users enter data to be saved in a db. > > How can I make php save the form data into a session before the user > leaves the page without pressing the submit button? Some members leave > the page and return afterwards wondering where their already entered > data is. > >>> I hate to be a contrarian (not really), but there is a paradigm for > >>> using web forms. If you want the internet to save your data, you have to > >>> press the little button. If you don't, then it won't be saved. Not hard > >>> to figure out, not hard to do. If you have to go do something else while > >>> you're in the middle of a form, open a new tab/window and do it. When > >>> you come back to your original form, the data will still be there (but > >>> again, not *saved* until you hit the little button). > >>> > >>> Sorry, I just get cranky with people who won't follow the rules. > >> > >> There are rules and then there's stupidity based on tradition. The > >> fact that websites previously threw away whatever work you had done > >> because you automatically got logged out of your session after half an > >> hour of typing does not mean you should call this a rule that should > >> be adhere to. Google figured it out and did so well: backup > >> automatically and let the user discard manually - not the other way > >> round that leads to lost work. > >> > >> Apart from that, I note that the OP has seemingly managed to solve the > >> problem and all these emails are rather pointless. > > > > Concur, and this is nothing to do with the web; http only constrains > > that the data should be POSTed or PUT; not /when/ a save action is > > triggered. > > > > Functionality is in the realm of the application, and if the client > > application (in this case the web page) determines that information > > should be iteratively saved, then that's what it should do. > > > > see google docs, gmail etc for real world examples. > > And a few BANK sites could do with considering waring people that they will > time > out before you have time to actually write in their message box for on-line > emails which you have to use since they will not accept off-line ones. I had > a > complex message FROM them to answer - and save just told me the seesion had > timed out! Bank solution - I should have copied their message to a word > processor, and then copied the answer back later ... perhaps they should add > that with a warning when trying to use their email page ;) > > -- > Lester Caine - G8HFL > - > Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact > L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk > EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ > Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// > Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php > Banks are notorious for not knowing about technology. My bank has a constant popup for Windows software that I 'must install' and has even asked me before to send my bank details over unencrypted email (my actual bank and not a phishing scam, as it was in reply to a question about that darned popup!) Thanks, Ash http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
Re: [PHP] Array differences
On Tue, 2010-04-13 at 23:01 -0600, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote:
> I have the following scenario:
>
>
>
> $array1 = array("12", "34", "56", "78", "90");
>
> $array2 = array("12", "23", "56", "78", "89");
>
>
>
> $result = array_diff($array1, $array2);
>
>
>
> print_r($result);
>
>
>
>
>
> This returns:
>
>
>
> Array
>
> (
>
> [1] => 34
>
> [4] => 90
>
> )
>
>
>
>
>
> However what I really want is a two-way comparison. I want elements that
> don't exist in either to be returned:
>
>
>
> 34 and 90 because they don't exist in $array2, AND 23 and 89 because they
> don't exist in $array1. So, is that a two step process of first doing an
> array_diff($array1, $array2) then reverse it by doing array_diff($array2,
> $array1) and merge/unique the results? Any caveats with that?
>
>
>
> $array1 = array("12", "34", "56", "78", "90");
>
> $array2 = array("12", "23", "56", "78", "89");
>
>
>
> $diff1 = array_diff($array1, $array2);
>
> $diff2 = array_diff($array2, $array1);
>
>
>
> $result = array_unique(array_merge($diff1, $diff2));
>
>
>
> print_r($result);
>
>
>
>
>
> -- A
>
I don't see any problems with doing it that way. This will only work as
you intended if both arrays have the same number of elements I believe,
otherwise you might end up with a situation where your final array has
duplicates of the same number:
$array1 = $array(1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6);
$array2 = $aray(1, 3, 2, 5);
Thanks,
Ash
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[PHP] Re: would there be an interest in having htmlMicroscope include dygraphs?
Rene Veerman wrote: > > I would like to include http://www.danvk.org/dygraphs/ into htmlMicroscope. > Would you think it usefull? +1 > Yes, i am a bit worried about being seen as the weird psycho on this > forum. Psychotic i'm not, just sleep-deprived a bit 1: if you you didn't bring personal life in to your mails then you wouldn't have to worry, the quicker you stop mentioning it the sooner it will be forgotten 2: most developers, perhaps take the approach of the rest of us and simply get a bit ratty, make stupid typo's and ask questions about things you already know (but forgot, because you are tired). > My reasons for posting "[OFF-TOPIC] telepathy and psychiatery" to this > list were simple; i was trying to alleviate the fears of other > telepaths like me, to prevent _them_ from having to go through the > hell of psychiateric closed wards... Rene, Telepathic or not, it is of no concern to any body on the list, just as we do not take it upon ourselves to inform you of the various physical and mental problems affecting many of us on a daily basis - some people on this list have *very* serious health problems, and we're just lucky they are still with us. In short, this list is a place where we discuss PHP, which is our tool for work, our hobby, another thing to help drown out the difficulties of life - embrace the code and let it see you through the hard times, keep personal life; personal. If you feel like replying Rene, quickly skip back to the top, notice the +1 and get on making good use of your time with a good challenge and some learning to boot. We're all happy to help you with any (PHP or Code) issues you may have along the way. Regards! -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Array differences
Ashley Sheridan wrote: > On Tue, 2010-04-13 at 23:01 -0600, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: >> >> However what I really want is a two-way comparison. I want elements that >> don't exist in either to be returned: >> > > > I don't see any problems with doing it that way. By some freak chance I made an array diff class about 2 weeks ago which covers what you need. attached :) usage: $diff = new ArrayDiff( $old , $new ); $diff->l; // deleted items $diff->r; // inserted items $diff->u; // unchanged items The script is optimised for huge arrays, thus it's slower for small arrays than the usual array_diff but with large arrays it's quicker. Regards Nathan -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Array differences
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Nathan Rixham wrote: > Ashley Sheridan wrote: >> On Tue, 2010-04-13 at 23:01 -0600, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: >>> >>> However what I really want is a two-way comparison. I want elements that >>> don't exist in either to be returned: >>> >> >> >> I don't see any problems with doing it that way. > > By some freak chance I made an array diff class about 2 weeks ago which > covers what you need. attached :) > > usage: > > $diff = new ArrayDiff( $old , $new ); > $diff->l; // deleted items > $diff->r; // inserted items > $diff->u; // unchanged items > > The script is optimised for huge arrays, thus it's slower for small > arrays than the usual array_diff but with large arrays it's quicker. > > Regards > > Nathan > > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > nice one :) i'll put it in a work-preperation folder for htmlMicroscope then, one of these days :) -- - Greetings from Rene7705, I have made some free open source webcomponents designed and written by me available through: http://code.google.com/u/rene7705/ , or http://mediabeez.ws (latest dev versions, currently offline) Personal info about me is available through http://www.facebook.com/rene7705 - -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Array differences
On 4/14/2010 2:39 AM, Ashley Sheridan wrote:
On Tue, 2010-04-13 at 23:01 -0600, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote:
$array1 = array("12", "34", "56", "78", "90");
$array2 = array("12", "23", "56", "78", "89");
$diff1 = array_diff($array1, $array2);
$diff2 = array_diff($array2, $array1);
$result = array_unique(array_merge($diff1, $diff2));
print_r($result);
I don't see any problems with doing it that way. This will only work
as you intended if both arrays have the same number of elements I
believe, otherwise you might end up with a situation where your final
array has duplicates of the same number:
$array1 = $array(1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6);
$array2 = $aray(1, 3, 2, 5);
Wouldn't array_unique() take care of that though? Your example
above returns 4 and 6, which would be correct.
A
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Re: [PHP] Array differences
Maybe this one works?
array_diff(array_unique($array1 + $array2), array_intersect($array1, $array2))
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 4:39 AM, Ashley Sheridan
wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-04-13 at 23:01 -0600, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote:
>
>> I have the following scenario:
>>
>>
>>
>> $array1 = array("12", "34", "56", "78", "90");
>>
>> $array2 = array("12", "23", "56", "78", "89");
>>
>>
>>
>> $result = array_diff($array1, $array2);
>>
>>
>>
>> print_r($result);
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> This returns:
>>
>>
>>
>> Array
>>
>> (
>>
>> [1] => 34
>>
>> [4] => 90
>>
>> )
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> However what I really want is a two-way comparison. I want elements that
>> don't exist in either to be returned:
>>
>>
>>
>> 34 and 90 because they don't exist in $array2, AND 23 and 89 because they
>> don't exist in $array1. So, is that a two step process of first doing an
>> array_diff($array1, $array2) then reverse it by doing array_diff($array2,
>> $array1) and merge/unique the results? Any caveats with that?
>>
>>
>>
>> $array1 = array("12", "34", "56", "78", "90");
>>
>> $array2 = array("12", "23", "56", "78", "89");
>>
>>
>>
>> $diff1 = array_diff($array1, $array2);
>>
>> $diff2 = array_diff($array2, $array1);
>>
>>
>>
>> $result = array_unique(array_merge($diff1, $diff2));
>>
>>
>>
>> print_r($result);
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- A
>>
>
>
> I don't see any problems with doing it that way. This will only work as
> you intended if both arrays have the same number of elements I believe,
> otherwise you might end up with a situation where your final array has
> duplicates of the same number:
>
> $array1 = $array(1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6);
> $array2 = $aray(1, 3, 2, 5);
>
> Thanks,
> Ash
> http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
>
>
>
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RE: [PHP] Array differences
No because that only does a one-way comparison. It only tells me what's
missing from $array2. I need it from both arrays. That's why I'm comparing
1 versus 2, then 2 versus 1, and then doing a merge/unique on the result.
$array1 = array(1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6);
$array2 = array(1, 3, 2, 8, 9);
$result = array_diff(array_unique($array1 + $array2),
array_intersect($array1, $array2));
=> (4, 5, 6)
Versus:
$array1 = array(1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6);
$array2 = array(1, 3, 2, 8, 9);
$diff1 = array_diff($array1, $array2);
$diff2 = array_diff($array2, $array1);
$result = array_unique(array_merge($diff1, $diff2));
=> (4, 5, 6, 8, 9)
This second $result is what I want. So far I haven't noticed any problems
doing it this way ... yet. I'm sure someone will tell me otherwise.
Ash
> -Original Message-
> From: Ryan Sun [mailto:ryansu...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 8:45 AM
> To: a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk
> Cc: Ashley M. Kirchner; php-general@lists.php.net
> Subject: Re: [PHP] Array differences
>
> Maybe this one works?
> array_diff(array_unique($array1 + $array2), array_intersect($array1,
> $array2))
>
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 4:39 AM, Ashley Sheridan
> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2010-04-13 at 23:01 -0600, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote:
> >
> >> I have the following scenario:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> $array1 = array("12", "34", "56", "78", "90");
> >>
> >> $array2 = array("12", "23", "56", "78", "89");
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> $result = array_diff($array1, $array2);
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> print_r($result);
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> This returns:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Array
> >>
> >> (
> >>
> >> [1] => 34
> >>
> >> [4] => 90
> >>
> >> )
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> However what I really want is a two-way comparison. I want elements
> that
> >> don't exist in either to be returned:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 34 and 90 because they don't exist in $array2, AND 23 and 89 because
> they
> >> don't exist in $array1. So, is that a two step process of first
> doing an
> >> array_diff($array1, $array2) then reverse it by doing
> array_diff($array2,
> >> $array1) and merge/unique the results? Any caveats with that?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> $array1 = array("12", "34", "56", "78", "90");
> >>
> >> $array2 = array("12", "23", "56", "78", "89");
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> $diff1 = array_diff($array1, $array2);
> >>
> >> $diff2 = array_diff($array2, $array1);
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> $result = array_unique(array_merge($diff1, $diff2));
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> print_r($result);
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -- A
> >>
> >
> >
> > I don't see any problems with doing it that way. This will only work
> as
> > you intended if both arrays have the same number of elements I
> believe,
> > otherwise you might end up with a situation where your final array
> has
> > duplicates of the same number:
> >
> > $array1 = $array(1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6);
> > $array2 = $aray(1, 3, 2, 5);
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ash
> > http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
> >
> >
> >
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[PHP] How to achieve mixed authentication/anonymous access
Hi, i have a problem with Authentification. I currently doubt that it is possible at all. Perhaps someone can enlighten me how to achive the goal or confirm that it is not reachable. The scenario is to achieve a mixed authentication/anonymous access similar as described for Subversion (see http://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/de/svn-book.html#svn.serverconfig.httpd.authz.perdir.ex-3). Therefore the ".htaccess" looks something like that: Order allow,deny Allow from all AuthType Basic AuthName "Realm" AuthUserFile "/some/path/.htusers" require valid-user Satisfy any Additionally a PHP script is inside the same folder. When you now browse to the URL of the PHP script, you can access it without any credentials requested. At some point the PHP script "decides" that authentification is required (e.g. when passing a param like "?access-secret=1"). Therefore it sends the following two headers: WWW-Authenticate: Basic realm="Realm" HTTP/1.x 401 Unauthorized Then you are asked to insert your username/password for the basic auth. But now comes the problem: How can the PHP script determine if you have provided valid credentials? The server variables PHP_AUTH_USER and PHP_AUTH_PW are populated independent of the result of the authentification defined in Apache. I do explicitly not want to check the credentials in PHP - think of the many different auth-methods which could be configured with Apache. Nor can the anonymous and authenticated parts be split in separate folders. Is this goal even possible or is the only way to not allow anonymous access (but for replacement a dummy user like "guest" with no password) or implement the auth in PHP? Any feedback is highly appreciated. Thank you Dirk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Basic switch statement
At 10:04 PM +0100 4/13/10, Nathan Rixham wrote: Robert Cummings wrote: > Nathan Rixham wrote: > Fail on that last one. -1 is not equivalent to FALSE :B well that's one job I'm not getting :p cheers for the picking that one up Rob And that's the reason why I hate test like that! The short tricky logic questions that interviewer's use to be clever are just nonsense. I'll take someone who can solve a problem over one who can argue true/false logic tables every time. Not meaning that people who come natural to that sort of logic solving ability do not make good programmers (because they can -- like Rob), but rather people who fail those types of logic questions do NOT also fail to be good programmers (like me). It's similar to the Tortoise and Hare thing -- it really doesn't make any difference who gets there first for both can run the distance. I don't think those types of logic puzzles do much to measure anything other than people's ability to solve logic puzzles. IMO, it's interviewers "leap of faith" to think logic puzzles are a good indicator of programming prowess. To many of us, programming is just doing over until it works. Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Array differences
Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: $array1 = array(1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6); $array2 = array(1, 3, 2, 8, 9); $diff1 = array_diff($array1, $array2); $diff2 = array_diff($array2, $array1); $result = array_unique(array_merge($diff1, $diff2)); => (4, 5, 6, 8, 9) Hi Ash, Isn't the array_unique() unnecessary? Mike -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Array differences
> -Original Message- > From: lala [mailto:l...@mail.theorb.net] > Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 10:15 AM > To: Ashley M. Kirchner > Cc: php-general@lists.php.net > Subject: Re: [PHP] Array differences > > Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: > > > > $array1 = array(1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6); > > $array2 = array(1, 3, 2, 8, 9); > > $diff1 = array_diff($array1, $array2); > > $diff2 = array_diff($array2, $array1); > > $result = array_unique(array_merge($diff1, $diff2)); > > > > => (4, 5, 6, 8, 9) > > Hi Ash, > > Isn't the array_unique() unnecessary? > > Mike Thinking about it, it should be unnecessary, but at the same time I want to absolutely sure that I get unique values out of the two diffs. Ash -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Basic switch statement
At 5:06 PM -0400 4/13/10, Robert Cummings wrote: Nathan Rixham wrote: well that's one job I'm not getting :p Well you DID get 66.7%. I've met "coders" that would stare at the answer and still not understand :D Cheers, Rob. Well.. count me among those staring. I just don't get those type of things until I see them actually work. My "logic" works the other way -- when presented with a logic problem, I come up with a solution that works the way I think and I always to solve the problem presented. Perhaps my solution isn't as clever nor as cryptic as others, but it's always easier to read and understand. Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Basic switch statement
tedd wrote: At 5:06 PM -0400 4/13/10, Robert Cummings wrote: Nathan Rixham wrote: well that's one job I'm not getting :p Well you DID get 66.7%. I've met "coders" that would stare at the answer and still not understand :D Cheers, Rob. Well.. count me among those staring. I just don't get those type of things until I see them actually work. My "logic" works the other way -- when presented with a logic problem, I come up with a solution that works the way I think and I always to solve the problem presented. Perhaps my solution isn't as clever nor as cryptic as others, but it's always easier to read and understand. Maybe you haven't debugged enough "other people" code in your time as a developer... there's a certain knack to weeding out logic failures :) It also helps to use proper indentation and bracing format as illustrated by all my code examples so that you can more easily see where problems lie >:D Cheers, Rob. -- http://www.interjinn.com Application and Templating Framework for PHP -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Basic switch statement
At 12:32 PM -0400 4/14/10, Robert Cummings wrote: tedd wrote: My "logic" works the other way -- when presented with a logic problem, I come up with a solution that works the way I think and I always to solve the problem presented. Perhaps my solution isn't as clever nor as cryptic as others, but it's always easier to read and understand. Maybe you haven't debugged enough "other people" code in your time as a developer... there's a certain knack to weeding out logic failures :) That could very well be. I don't usually debug other people's code and seldom have clients want me to do so. I usually have clients who present a problem and then I solve it -- thus, all original code. Several yeas ago, I had one client who had considerable prior work done and I found myself rewriting everything at a cost of many weeks of my non-billable time. I won't be doing that again. It also helps to use proper indentation and bracing format as illustrated by all my code examples so that you can more easily see where problems lie >:D Cheers, Rob. Ain't that the truth! We are almost identical in our formatting. I've found that when I run into someone who has similar ideas as I have, they are usually very intelligent. :-) Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Array differences
At 9:37 AM -0600 4/14/10, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: No because that only does a one-way comparison. It only tells me what's missing from $array2. I need it from both arrays. That's why I'm comparing 1 versus 2, then 2 versus 1, and then doing a merge/unique on the result. -snip- $array1 = array(1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6); $array2 = array(1, 3, 2, 8, 9); $diff1 = array_diff($array1, $array2); $diff2 = array_diff($array2, $array1); $result = array_unique(array_merge($diff1, $diff2)); => (4, 5, 6, 8, 9) This second $result is what I want. So far I haven't noticed any problems doing it this way ... yet. I'm sure someone will tell me otherwise. Ash Ash: Looks good to me. But note the indexes of the result. You might want to: $array1 = array(1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 7, 7, 7); $array2 = array(1, 2, 3, 8, 9); $diff1 = array_diff($array1, $array2); $diff2 = array_diff($array2, $array1); $diff1 = array_unique($diff1); $diff2 = array_unique($diff2); $result = array_merge($diff1, $diff2); Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] PHP & MYSQL sorting
Thanks for your thoughts. Ajax is the way to go... Thanks, .../Ernie -Original Message- From: tedd [mailto:tedd.sperl...@gmail.com] Sent: April-12-10 10:18 AM To: Ernie Kemp; 'PHP General List' Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP & MYSQL sorting At 8:16 PM -0400 4/11/10, Ernie Kemp wrote: >Simple idea I thought. > >I need a webpage that displays a drop down list of number with a >checkbox on the side that when checked will select the database >again only in descending order. >Small database with maybe 100 records. > >The user can click the submit button when they have located the >correct number. > >The trick is to make the checkbox trigger a new Select statement. > >Thanks. Ernie: The javascript getData() will have to launch a php script to get the data again OR you can simply sort the data yourself using sort(). Here's another idea using jQuery: http://webbytedd.com/jquery/sortable-table/ Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.801 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2806 - Release Date: 04/12/10 02:32:00 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Basic switch statement
On 4/14/2010 12:28 PM, tedd wrote: At 5:06 PM -0400 4/13/10, Robert Cummings wrote: Nathan Rixham wrote: well that's one job I'm not getting :p Well you DID get 66.7%. I've met "coders" that would stare at the answer and still not understand :D Cheers, Rob. Well.. count me among those staring. I just don't get those type of things until I see them actually work. My "logic" works the other way -- when presented with a logic problem, I come up with a solution that works the way I think and I always to solve the problem presented. Perhaps my solution isn't as clever nor as cryptic as others, but it's always easier to read and understand. Cheers, tedd I'm with you Tedd. I'm forever cussing myself when I use a super clever trick to solve a logic problem and then later can't figure out how the damn thing worked even though I documented it. Incidentally, about formatting scripts, one of the reasons I like phpEdit is that it has a terrific code beautifier. You can set it for phpDoc or Pear rendering. And, it auto indents, etc. as you enter stuff. Al... -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Basic switch statement
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 12:28:13PM -0400, tedd wrote: > At 5:06 PM -0400 4/13/10, Robert Cummings wrote: >> Nathan Rixham wrote: >>> >>> well that's one job I'm not getting :p >> >> Well you DID get 66.7%. I've met "coders" that would stare at the >> answer and still not understand :D >> >> Cheers, >> Rob. > > Well.. count me among those staring. I just don't get those type of > things until I see them actually work. > > My "logic" works the other way -- when presented with a logic > problem, I come up with a solution that works the way I think and I > always to solve the problem presented. Perhaps my solution isn't as > clever nor as cryptic as others, but it's always easier to read and > understand. +1 I've never had other coders looking over my shoulder, and I agonized for years over whether my logical solutions were the "best" approach. Now I just code and take pride in the fact that I can understand what I did later (mostly). Paul -- Paul M. Foster -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] problems with feature '--with-pdo-oci' RPM (spec)
Raul da Silva {Sp4wn} wrote:
# rpm -qpl /usr/src/linux/RPMS/x86_64/php52-pdo-oci-5.2.12-2.fc11.x86_64.rpm
/etc/php.d/pdo_oci.ini
/usr/lib64/php/modules/pdo_oci.so
# rpm --test -ivh
/usr/src/redhat/RPMS/x86_64/php52-pdo-oci-5.2.12-2.fc11.x86_64.rpm
error: Failed dependencies:
libclntsh.so.10.1()(64bit) is needed by
php52-pdo-oci-5.2.12-2.fc11.x86_64
I checked this steps, its ok :
1)
# ls -l /usr/lib/oracle/10.2.0.4/client64/lib/libclntsh.so
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 2010-04-12 19:38 /usr/lib/oracle/
10.2.0.4/client64/lib/libclntsh.so -> libclntsh.so.10.1
2)
# ldconfig -p | grep libclntsh.so
libclntsh.so.10.1 (libc6,x86-64) => /usr/lib/oracle/
10.2.0.4/client64/lib/libclntsh.so.10.1
libclntsh.so (libc6,x86-64) => /usr/lib/oracle/
10.2.0.4/client64/lib/libclntsh.so
What is wrong ? , thanks for help
http://bugs.php.net/29301
??
Kevin Kinsey
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Re: [PHP] Basic switch statement
On Wed, 2010-04-14 at 16:52 -0400, Paul M Foster wrote: > On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 12:28:13PM -0400, tedd wrote: > > > At 5:06 PM -0400 4/13/10, Robert Cummings wrote: > >> Nathan Rixham wrote: > >>> > >>> well that's one job I'm not getting :p > >> > >> Well you DID get 66.7%. I've met "coders" that would stare at the > >> answer and still not understand :D > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Rob. > > > > Well.. count me among those staring. I just don't get those type of > > things until I see them actually work. > > > > My "logic" works the other way -- when presented with a logic > > problem, I come up with a solution that works the way I think and I > > always to solve the problem presented. Perhaps my solution isn't as > > clever nor as cryptic as others, but it's always easier to read and > > understand. > > +1 > > I've never had other coders looking over my shoulder, and I agonized for > years over whether my logical solutions were the "best" approach. Now I > just code and take pride in the fact that I can understand what I did > later (mostly). > > Paul > > -- > Paul M. Foster > I think as long as the code is readable, and doesn't have any glaringly obvious issues (I've seen people re-writing built in PHP functionality because they didn't know the built-in function existed) then it should be OK. Add comments to aid any areas where you think you might forget or other people might not easily understand what is happening. Don't get me wrong, clever ideas are nice, and sometimes with the right comment they just work beautifully. Just occassionally though something is done in such a neat clever way, that in the future when it comes time to extend the system, this neat clever idea is actually a hindrance and causes extra work because it has to be re-written a 'less-clever' but more flexible way! Thanks, Ash http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
Re: [PHP] Basic switch statement
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:06:39PM +0100, Ashley Sheridan wrote: > On Wed, 2010-04-14 at 16:52 -0400, Paul M Foster wrote: > > > I've never had other coders looking over my shoulder, and I agonized for > years over whether my logical solutions were the "best" > approach. Now I > just code and take pride in the fact that I can understand what I did > later (mostly). > > Paul > > -- > Paul M. Foster > > > > I think as long as the code is readable, and doesn't have any glaringly > obvious > issues (I've seen people re-writing built in PHP functionality because they > didn't know the built-in function existed) then it should be OK. Add comments > to aid any areas where you think you might forget or other people might not > easily understand what is happening. > > Don't get me wrong, clever ideas are nice, and sometimes with the right > comment > they just work beautifully. Just occassionally though something is done in > such > a neat clever way, that in the future when it comes time to extend the system, > this neat clever idea is actually a hindrance and causes extra work because it > has to be re-written a 'less-clever' but more flexible way! That reminds me of a story. I once wrote what was almost an RPG (RPG-- the language, not the game) interpeter under FoxPro to handle incoming EDI traffic and update invoicing, etc. The big problem with EDI is that no one follows the standards properly, so every vendor tendering an invoice did it differently. So you needed a database driven system which would selectively make decisions based on each line of incoming EDI content. Worked great, and when a new vendor came along, you just analyzed their transactions and populated some more records in the database to handle that vendor's transactions. I know, it sounds obscure, but it made perfect sense at the time. Shortly after that, I left that company. I documented the system, and it worked fine, but it was hard to wrap your wits around how it worked. And I just know the next coder on that account was cursing me day and night for writing that system. Anyway... Paul -- Paul M. Foster -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
