[PHP] Re: Shared memory, mutex functionality and spawning threads. Is it possible using PHP?

[Colin Guthrie]

Kent Larsson wrote:

Thank you for your answer. I was hoping there were a solution. :-/ It would
have been nice as PHP has a large install base and is a quite common element
in cheap web hosting solutions. Has anyone else got any more comments or
suggestions?

In absence of shared memory and threads. What I really must have is some
kind of mutex functionality. I will be manipulating files on disk and I
don't want two instances to be able to touch the disk at the same time. Is
there something I could use for mutual exclusion? If there aren't any
dedicated methods, are there 100% reliable workarounds?


If you are looking for shared memory such that one request can then 
access an object created once (e.g. "primed") and stored for subsequent 
reuse, then this is totally possible.


Using something like memcached or APC you can access such shared memory 
etc. Access to APC shared memory is protected using various locking 
methods, including File Locks (mmap), IPC Semaphores, Spinlocks and 
PThread Mutexs.


While you cannot run threads in a Web based environment very easily, you 
can fork child processes: http://uk.php.net/pcntl_fork. I'm not sure I'd 
recommend this for a web environment tho! Depending what you are doing 
tho' you may want to run a small "daemon" that listens for connections 
and spawns off a new process to deal with it via this method. It really 
depends what you are trying to achieve as all of the timing/locking 
problems of asynchronous programming are typically something I would try 
and avoid in a web/scripting environment.


HTHs

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Re: [PHP] Mozilla user agent escapes detection

[Diogo Neves]

On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 4:39 AM, Dave M G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> PHP List,
>
> I have a script, part of which is taken from a script I found on the 'net,
> which tries to detect the user agent of the browser accessing the site. One
> of the reasons I'm doing this is to find out if the browser is a desktop or
> mobile.
>
> Part of the code looks like this:
>
> $ua = strtolower($_SERVER['HTTP_USER_AGENT']);
> $isDesktop = (strpos($ua, 'firefox') !== false)
> || (strpos($ua,'mosaic') !== false)
> || (strpos($ua,'msie') !== false)
> || (strpos($ua,'opera') !== false)
> || (strpos($ua,'mozilla') !== false)
> || (strpos($ua,'w3c_css_validator') !== false)
> || (strpos($ua,'w3c_validator') !== false);
>
> What's driving me crazy is that it successfully determines all the browsers
> listed there, *except* mozilla.
>
> I have a log file which alerts me when an unknown browser comes through my
> site, and it's chock full of messages telling me that a Mozilla based
> browser has come by. There are a *lot* of Mozilla based browsers.
>
> Some examples from my logs of the browsers slipping by my test:
>
> HTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/5.0 compatible; Yahoo! Slurp
> HTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/5.0 compatible; Googlebot/2.1
> HTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/5.0 X11; U; Linux i686
>
> In each case, the strpos() should have seen the mozilla agent and not
> bothered logging it.
>
> It's not complicated code, especially considering it's successfully finding
> msie and firefox.
>
> I can't imagine why Mozilla would be different.
>
> Any suggestions? Is there something about my code right in front of my face
> that I'm not seeing?
>
> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks.
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Unless you are not getting that useragents on your php, it as to work...
At least my test worked perfectly




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Re: [PHP] Mozilla user agent escapes detection

[Jochem Maas]

Dave M G schreef:

PHP List,

I have a script, part of which is taken from a script I found on the 
'net, which tries to detect the user agent of the browser accessing the 
site. One of the reasons I'm doing this is to find out if the browser is 
a desktop or mobile.


Part of the code looks like this:

$ua = strtolower($_SERVER['HTTP_USER_AGENT']);
$isDesktop = (strpos($ua, 'firefox') !== false)
|| (strpos($ua,'mosaic') !== false)
|| (strpos($ua,'msie') !== false)
|| (strpos($ua,'opera') !== false)
|| (strpos($ua,'mozilla') !== false)
|| (strpos($ua,'w3c_css_validator') !== false)
|| (strpos($ua,'w3c_validator') !== false);

What's driving me crazy is that it successfully determines all the 
browsers listed there, *except* mozilla.


Mozilla !== mozilla

stripos is the case-insenstive version of strpos



I have a log file which alerts me when an unknown browser comes through 
my site, and it's chock full of messages telling me that a Mozilla based 
browser has come by. There are a *lot* of Mozilla based browsers.


Some examples from my logs of the browsers slipping by my test:

HTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/5.0 compatible; Yahoo! Slurp
HTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/5.0 compatible; Googlebot/2.1


these 2 are bots btw.


HTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/5.0 X11; U; Linux i686

In each case, the strpos() should have seen the mozilla agent and not 
bothered logging it.


It's not complicated code, especially considering it's successfully 
finding msie and firefox.


I can't imagine why Mozilla would be different.

Any suggestions? Is there something about my code right in front of my 
face that I'm not seeing?


Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


STW? plenty of people offering code that attempts to detect mobile devices, 
e.g.:

http://www.andymoore.info/php-to-detect-mobile-phones/

also I'd offer a link in the top of your site pointing to the mobile site
(and vice-versa) in order to:

1. allow bots to visit both.
2. in case your code guessed incorrectly for some user(s)

I'd also check the UA string specifically for bots first and just let them
through ... they are neither desktop nor mobile browsers.

additionally you might consider how you want to accomodate text browsers
(which is kind of what a bot is)



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Re: [PHP] Individual bulk e-mails - performance question (was "skinning a cat") :-)

[Jochem Maas]

Robert Cummings schreef:

On Mon, 2008-09-01 at 14:34 +0200, Merlin Morgenstern wrote:

Per Jessen schrieb:

Jochem Maas wrote:


lockfile=/var/lock//file
# clear out a lock older than 60mins
find $lockfile -cmin +60 | xargs rm
test ! -f $lockfile && (
touch $lockfile

rm -f $lockfile
)

wouldn't creating a dir be better here? (with regard to atomicity)


I haven't thought it through, but I don't think it would change
anything. 



/Per Jessen, Zürich


Hello everybody,

thank you for the huge amount of replies on my question. I believe I 
quite lost a bit track on how to solve the problem hands on. To 
summerize, there are aparently two ways of skinning the cat :-)


1. Run a deamon
I admit I have never wrote one, and that seems therefore to be the 
harder option for me. Well... perhaps not.
I assume it is simply creating a shell script like Jochem wrote, however 
I guess it would just take longer for me to get it running as I have 
never done that before.


It was Per who posted that script, I merely asked him for clarification ...
it's actually an easy script to implement ... you just about only have
to change one line (the line that runs your cron script) ... and then have
crom run the shell script as opposed to your script directly.



2. Create a PHP file that holds some lock code which is triggered by 
CRON every 5 minutes. Taking the example from Robert.


3. Following idea which I am now actually implementing :-)

  - Add all emails into a mysql db with one insert command.
  - Run a php script by cron every 5 min that does the following:
- update table, set session_id = x on all entries without session id
- get all entries with that session ID
- send email to those with that session ID
- remove all entries with that session ID

Looks like easies sollution on how to skimm the cat. DB might not be the 
most performing sollution, but sufficient considering the hard ware power.


Actually 3 was what I suggested with a lock mechanism to ensure that if
your script run by cron takes longer than 5 minutes that you don't have
two scritps stepping on each others' toes.

Cheers,
Rob.



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Re: [PHP] Mozilla user agent escapes detection

[Richard Heyes]

> I have a script, part of which is taken from a script I found on the 'net,
> which tries to detect the user agent of the browser accessing the site. One
> of the reasons I'm doing this is to find out if the browser is a desktop or
> mobile.

Try another detection script. Eg my own:

http://www.phpguru.org/static/browser.html

Or the Javascript version it stems from. Or...

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[PHP] Google Chrome

[Richard Heyes]

Hi,

Looks like Google chrome is being released today (or soon). IE,
Firefox, Opera, Safari and now Chrome, hmmm, can anyone say "browser
war"?

http://www.google.com/googlebooks/chrome/

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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

[Diogo Neves]

On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 12:21 PM, Richard Heyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Looks like Google chrome is being released today (or soon). IE,
> Firefox, Opera, Safari and now Chrome, hmmm, can anyone say "browser
> war"?
>
> http://www.google.com/googlebooks/chrome/
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Hi,
I have nothing against browsers, but that discussion is (maybe) better on a
javascript/designer/whatever mailling...
And it's only rumors... why not wait by the real thing is out?

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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

[Per Jessen]

Richard Heyes wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Looks like Google chrome is being released today (or soon). IE,
> Firefox, Opera, Safari and now Chrome, hmmm, can anyone say "browser
> war"?
> 

Can anyone say "even more money & effort wasted on testing
webpages"  :-(


/Per Jessen, Zürich


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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

[Richard Heyes]

> why not wait by the real thing is out?

By the looks of it, the release is imminent.

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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

[Stut]

On 2 Sep 2008, at 12:34, Per Jessen wrote:

Richard Heyes wrote:

Hi,

Looks like Google chrome is being released today (or soon). IE,
Firefox, Opera, Safari and now Chrome, hmmm, can anyone say "browser
war"?



Can anyone say "even more money & effort wasted on testing
webpages"  :-(


Webkit-based, so no need to add any more testing than you do now.

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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

[Per Jessen]

Stut wrote:

> On 2 Sep 2008, at 12:34, Per Jessen wrote:
>> Richard Heyes wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Looks like Google chrome is being released today (or soon). IE,
>>> Firefox, Opera, Safari and now Chrome, hmmm, can anyone say "browser
>>> war"?
>>>
>>
>> Can anyone say "even more money & effort wasted on testing
>> webpages"  :-(
> 
> Webkit-based, so no need to add any more testing than you do now.
> 

I can't help thinking that sounds just like when MS is telling us they
are compatible.  But it _is_ good that they're using Webkit, I'm just
not sure if it really means no extra testing effort.  FF3 wasn't and
isn't compatible with FF2. 


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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

[Luke]

isn't the webkit based on KHTML?

2008/9/2 Stut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> On 2 Sep 2008, at 12:34, Per Jessen wrote:
>
>> Richard Heyes wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Looks like Google chrome is being released today (or soon). IE,
>>> Firefox, Opera, Safari and now Chrome, hmmm, can anyone say "browser
>>> war"?
>>>
>>>
>> Can anyone say "even more money & effort wasted on testing
>> webpages"  :-(
>>
>
> Webkit-based, so no need to add any more testing than you do now.
>
> -Stut
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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

[shiplu]

Google Chrome is not released yet, is it?
Didn't get any download link. :-S

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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

[Per Jessen]

Luke wrote:

> isn't the webkit based on KHTML?
> 

It's a fork of KHTML, yes.  


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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

[Diogo Neves]

On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 12:44 PM, shiplu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Google Chrome is not released yet, is it?
> Didn't get any download link. :-S
>

Was what i said... it's a rumor... let da thing came out and u'll see your
websites after...

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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

[Jochem Maas]

Richard Heyes schreef:

Hi,

Looks like Google chrome is being released today (or soon). IE,
Firefox, Opera, Safari and now Chrome, hmmm, can anyone say "browser
war"?

http://www.google.com/googlebooks/chrome/


to quote Han Solo :  "I have a bad feeling about this"






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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

[Richard Heyes]

>> Can anyone say "even more money & effort wasted on testing
>> webpages"  :-(
>
> Webkit-based, so no need to add any more testing than you do now.

Are you going to take the gamble? :-)

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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

[Richard Heyes]

> Google Chrome is not released yet, is it?
> Didn't get any download link. :-S

Can't find any download link. It maybe a few hours away.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10030025-2.html

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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

[Jochem Maas]

Richard Heyes schreef:

Hi,

Looks like Google chrome is being released today (or soon). IE,
Firefox, Opera, Safari and now Chrome, hmmm, can anyone say "browser
war"?

http://www.google.com/googlebooks/chrome/


I've been reading this ... very well done all in all, on page 37 they
say "But Google lives on the internet. It's in our interest to make the
internet better and without competition we have stagnation"

... funny that, make me think of the online ad market ;-)






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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

[Stut]

On 2 Sep 2008, at 12:59, Richard Heyes wrote:

Can anyone say "even more money & effort wasted on testing
webpages"  :-(


Webkit-based, so no need to add any more testing than you do now.


Are you going to take the gamble? :-)


I'll decide when I can play with it and the official announcement  
spells out what they've modified.


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[PHP] geolocation

[clive]

Hi,

Have any developed a site that determines a users location based on IP  
address, Im not looking for accurate locations, just what country they 
are coming from.


I know I could possible get a list of IP blocks allocated to countries 
or make use of some web server to get the information, I just want to 
know how others are doing this?


If are using a specific method and know it to be robust and up to date 
please let me know.


Thanks

clive


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Re: [PHP] geolocation

[Schiz0]

On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 9:05 AM, clive <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Have any developed a site that determines a users location based on IP
>  address, Im not looking for accurate locations, just what country they are
> coming from.
>
> I know I could possible get a list of IP blocks allocated to countries or
> make use of some web server to get the information, I just want to know how
> others are doing this?
>
> If are using a specific method and know it to be robust and up to date
> please let me know.
>
> Thanks
>
> clive
>
>

I use the GeoIP libraries. They work perfectly. YOu just need to
install the pecl-GeoIP package, then make sure you keep the binary
database up-to-date (from www.maxmind.com).

http://php.net/geoip

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Re: [PHP] geolocation

[Per Jessen]

clive wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Have any developed a site that determines a users location based on IP
> address, Im not looking for accurate locations, just what country they
> are coming from.
> 

We use the information from  http://countries.nerd.dk/ - it's a simple
DNS lookup.


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Re: [PHP] Recommendation

[Dan Joseph]

On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 8:38 AM, tedd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi gang:
>
> At 1:16 PM +0100 8/30/08, Stut wrote:
>
>> Now, about that recommendation for my linked in profile... ;)
>>
>
> That's not a bad idea. Daniel and I did an exchange a while back. I think
> it might help to land clients if we can use our linked-in status in some
> way. I haven't done that yet, but there should be a way.
>
> As such, if any of the regulars to this list are in need of a
> recommendation, please contact me off-list.
>
> Cheers,
>
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We have threads that go 100+, and this one dies at 3...

You can view mine at http://www.linkedin.com/in/danjoseph

Anyone can feel free to connect to me as well, and I'd be happy to give
recommendations.

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Re: [PHP] Re: skinning a cat

[Robert Cummings]

On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 07:52 +0200, Per Jessen wrote:
> Lupus Michaelis wrote:
> 
> > Robert Cummings a écrit :
> > 
> >> Try running that on windows.
> > 
> >No problem
> > 
> > 
> 
> And of course, there's also Cygwin.

*lol* And I quote:

Per Jessen said:
"I'm probably old fashioned, but to me all that stuff is way
 overkill."

And now your suggesting installing cygwin to accomplish something so
easily accomplished in PHP.

Yeesh.

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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

[Robert Cummings]

On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 12:36 +0100, Stut wrote:
> On 2 Sep 2008, at 12:34, Per Jessen wrote:
> > Richard Heyes wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Looks like Google chrome is being released today (or soon). IE,
> >> Firefox, Opera, Safari and now Chrome, hmmm, can anyone say "browser
> >> war"?
> >>
> >
> > Can anyone say "even more money & effort wasted on testing
> > webpages"  :-(
> 
> Webkit-based, so no need to add any more testing than you do now.

You must not remember IE 5.5 on IE and IE 5.5 on Mac. They were quite
different in annoying little places.

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Re: [PHP] geolocation

[Jignesh Thummar]

You can use this one also http://ip-to-country.webhosting.info/
This is being used by php.net site - to find country specific mirror.

You can get sample code here :
http://www.ruturaj.net/tutorials/php/ip-to-country

Regards,
Jignesh


On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Per Jessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> clive wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Have any developed a site that determines a users location based on IP
> > address, Im not looking for accurate locations, just what country they
> > are coming from.
> >
>
> We use the information from  http://countries.nerd.dk/ - it's a simple
> DNS lookup.
>
>
> /Per Jessen, Zürich
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Re: [PHP] Re: skinning a cat

[Per Jessen]

Robert Cummings wrote:

> On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 07:52 +0200, Per Jessen wrote:
>> Lupus Michaelis wrote:
>> 
>> > Robert Cummings a écrit :
>> > 
>> >> Try running that on windows.
>> > 
>> >No problem
>> > 
>> > 
>> 
>> And of course, there's also Cygwin.
> 
> *lol* And I quote:
> 
> Per Jessen said:
> "I'm probably old fashioned, but to me all that stuff is way
>  overkill."
> 
> And now your suggesting installing cygwin to accomplish something so
> easily accomplished in PHP.
> 
> Yeesh.

Rob, I've never suggested anything like that.  But if you were to ask me
how to get a fairly decent Unix-like environment on a Windows platform,
yes, I would suggest using Cygwin.


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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

[Eric Butera]

On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You must not remember IE 5.5 on IE and IE 5.5 on Mac. They were quite
> different in annoying little places.
>
> Cheers,
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It is pretty sweet trying to inform clients that Microsoft has stopped
supporting IE on Mac.  If MS doesn't, then why on Earth should we? ;)
And yes, this still happens as of 2008.

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Re: [PHP] Re: skinning a cat

[Robert Cummings]

On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 16:23 +0200, Per Jessen wrote:
> Robert Cummings wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 07:52 +0200, Per Jessen wrote:
> >> Lupus Michaelis wrote:
> >> 
> >> > Robert Cummings a écrit :
> >> > 
> >> >> Try running that on windows.
> >> > 
> >> >No problem
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> 
> >> And of course, there's also Cygwin.
> > 
> > *lol* And I quote:
> > 
> > Per Jessen said:
> > "I'm probably old fashioned, but to me all that stuff is way
> >  overkill."
> > 
> > And now your suggesting installing cygwin to accomplish something so
> > easily accomplished in PHP.
> > 
> > Yeesh.
> 
> Rob, I've never suggested anything like that.  But if you were to ask me
> how to get a fairly decent Unix-like environment on a Windows platform,
> yes, I would suggest using Cygwin.

You originally said it was overkill to use my lock class and then went
on to show your shell script doing similar. To which I then responded
try running the shell script in windows. To which you've now suggested
installing cygwin. Thus you have suggested a shell script and cygwin to
accomplish what a simple lock class easily achieves in both linux and
windows. It all goes back to that original argument you brought up where
you said the lock class was overkill. I haven't even commented on the
complexity added by introducing a second technology (And third now that
cygwin is on the table). I'm sure this is a prime example for the
application of Occam's Razor.

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Re: [PHP] Recommendation

[Eric Butera]

I'm on there too.

http://www.linkedin.com/in/ericbutera

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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

[Richard Heyes]

> If MS doesn't, then why on Earth should we? ;)

Because there aren't enough high horses to go around... :-)

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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

[Bastien Koert]

On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Richard Heyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > If MS doesn't, then why on Earth should we? ;)
>
> Because there aren't enough high horses to go around... :-)
>
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Just when things were getting dull with IE8 claiming better standards
support

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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

[Robert Cummings]

On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 11:03 -0400, Bastien Koert wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Richard Heyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > > If MS doesn't, then why on Earth should we? ;)
> >
> > Because there aren't enough high horses to go around... :-)
> >
> >
> Just when things were getting dull with IE8 claiming better standards
> support

Call me a Doubting Thomas, but I wanna stick my fingers into IE8 before
I believe any of their claims.

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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

[David Giragosian]

On 9/2/08, Bastien Koert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Richard Heyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > If MS doesn't, then why on Earth should we? ;)
> >
> > Because there aren't enough high horses to go around... :-)
> >
> > --
> > Richard Heyes
> >
> > HTML5 Graphing for IE7, FF, Opera and Safari:
> > http://www.phpguru.org/RGraph
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> >
> Just when things were getting dull with IE8 claiming better standards
> support


The tech writer in our local newspaper reviewed IE8 this morning.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/business/silverman/5978053.html

Interesting read.

David

Re: [PHP] Recommendation

[Shawn McKenzie]

Eric Butera wrote:

I'm on there too.

http://www.linkedin.com/in/ericbutera


Me too...

http://www.linkedin.com/in/rsmckenzie

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Re: [PHP] Mozilla user agent escapes detection

[Dave M G]

Richard,

Thanks for responding.


http://www.phpguru.org/static/browser.html


I may just do that. If it works out for my needs, I'll let you know.

Really, right now I'm doing browser detection to simply sort incoming 
browsers into desktops, bots, and mobile. If I can get your script to do 
that, then sweet.


By the way, another thing I'm trying to do is reliably test to see if a 
browser accepts cookies. I just looked through your PHP blog, and didn't 
see that specifically listed, but since I'm emailing you already, may I 
ask if you have a script that does that? Or a good recommendation?


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Re: [PHP] Mozilla user agent escapes detection

[Shawn McKenzie]

Jochem Maas wrote:

Dave M G schreef:

PHP List,

I have a script, part of which is taken from a script I found on the 
'net, which tries to detect the user agent of the browser accessing 
the site. One of the reasons I'm doing this is to find out if the 
browser is a desktop or mobile.


Part of the code looks like this:

$ua = strtolower($_SERVER['HTTP_USER_AGENT']);
$isDesktop = (strpos($ua, 'firefox') !== false)
|| (strpos($ua,'mosaic') !== false)
|| (strpos($ua,'msie') !== false)
|| (strpos($ua,'opera') !== false)
|| (strpos($ua,'mozilla') !== false)
|| (strpos($ua,'w3c_css_validator') !== false)
|| (strpos($ua,'w3c_validator') !== false);

What's driving me crazy is that it successfully determines all the 
browsers listed there, *except* mozilla.


Mozilla !== mozilla


Look at the code: strtolower('Mozilla') === 'mozilla'

-Shawn


stripos is the case-insenstive version of strpos



I have a log file which alerts me when an unknown browser comes 
through my site, and it's chock full of messages telling me that a 
Mozilla based browser has come by. There are a *lot* of Mozilla based 
browsers.


Some examples from my logs of the browsers slipping by my test:

HTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/5.0 compatible; Yahoo! Slurp
HTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/5.0 compatible; Googlebot/2.1


these 2 are bots btw.


HTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/5.0 X11; U; Linux i686

In each case, the strpos() should have seen the mozilla agent and not 
bothered logging it.


It's not complicated code, especially considering it's successfully 
finding msie and firefox.


I can't imagine why Mozilla would be different.

Any suggestions? Is there something about my code right in front of my 
face that I'm not seeing?


Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


STW? plenty of people offering code that attempts to detect mobile 
devices, e.g.:


http://www.andymoore.info/php-to-detect-mobile-phones/

also I'd offer a link in the top of your site pointing to the mobile site
(and vice-versa) in order to:

1. allow bots to visit both.
2. in case your code guessed incorrectly for some user(s)

I'd also check the UA string specifically for bots first and just let them
through ... they are neither desktop nor mobile browsers.

additionally you might consider how you want to accomodate text browsers
(which is kind of what a bot is)



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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

[Richard Heyes]

Hi,

And more about it:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7593106.stm

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Re: [PHP] Re: What's with the Rx symbol?

[Andrew Ballard]

On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 9:53 AM, tedd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 2:21 PM -0400 8/30/08, Andrew Ballard wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 11:38 AM, tedd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>  > I think making the URL RED would be a better warning than showing
>> PUNYCODE
>>>
>>>  -- but that's my opinion.
>>>
>>>  Cheers,
>>>
>>>  tedd
>>
>> Wait a minute - you're going to rail on for ever on another thread
>> about web in-accessibility with CAPTCHA and then you're going to
>> propose something that relies on color coding for something that
>> important? What about all those with red/green color blindness?
>>
>> Andrew
>
> Andrew:
>
> First, I don't think I "rail on forever about web accessibility" -- instead
> I simply address the concerns/questions/comments as they are presented.

Agreed, and my apologies. It definitely comes across much more harshly
in print than I intended. I was mostly just amused at the irony of you
throwing out a possible solution to one problem that flies directly in
the face of another thread that you have been discussing at the same
time.

> Second, I said highlighting mixed charset URL's in the color RED was an
> example to illustrate that solutions can be found that are different than
> showing PUNYCODE. It was not a solution I would endorse for red/green color
> blindness or for blindness. There are other ways to handle that.

There are indeed many ways to pare a feline. I was just pointing out
that ONE of those ways is reduce the size of the available symbol set
to eliminate similar or possibly misunderstood glyphs, and that seems
to be what some browsers are doing. Obviously, it's not a method that
you prefer given that it obscures the entire domain names you have,
but it is still a valid option.

Accessibility aside, it's already getting somewhat confusing to sort
out the icons and colors used in address bars as it is. (In different
versions and vendors I've seen backgrounds that include white and
light yellow, green, and red; text that is bold and not bold, black,
green, and red...) At least the lock icons are consistent, but now I
am getting familiar with the different variations of the passport
inspector in FF.

> So, please cut me some slack.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> tedd

Slack cut, take all you need.

Andrew

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Re: [PHP] Mozilla user agent escapes detection

[Richard Heyes]

> By the way, another thing I'm trying to do is reliably test to see if a
> browser accepts cookies. I just looked through your PHP blog, and didn't see
> that specifically listed, but since I'm emailing you already, may I ask if
> you have a script that does that? Or a good recommendation?

Just send a cookie to the browser, rfresh the page (or redirect to
another page) and then test for its existence (in $_COOKIE).

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Re: [PHP] Re: skinning a cat

[Per Jessen]

Robert Cummings wrote:

> You originally said it was overkill to use my lock class and then went
> on to show your shell script doing similar. To which I then responded
> try running the shell script in windows. To which you've now suggested
> installing cygwin. 

Well, no I haven't, but feel free to think so.  

> Thus you have suggested a shell script and cygwin to accomplish what a
> simple lock class easily achieves in both linux and windows.  

OK, if you want to debate this - you take a relatively complex solution
which is intended for 1% of your customers, and apply it to the other
99% which could have done with a much simpler solution. That's more
overkill, IMHO. 


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Re: [PHP] Re: skinning a cat

[Robert Cummings]

On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 18:02 +0200, Per Jessen wrote:
> Robert Cummings wrote:
> 
> > You originally said it was overkill to use my lock class and then went
> > on to show your shell script doing similar. To which I then responded
> > try running the shell script in windows. To which you've now suggested
> > installing cygwin. 
> 
> Well, no I haven't, but feel free to think so.  

Ok, maybe you didn't explicitly suggest installing cygwin but you did
write:

"And of course, there's also Cygwin."

As a method of running the shell script you provided. That struck me as
a suggestion... but I won't quibble. Obviously you meant someone could
use cygwin without installing it.

> > Thus you have suggested a shell script and cygwin to accomplish what a
> > simple lock class easily achieves in both linux and windows.  
> 
> OK, if you want to debate this - you take a relatively complex solution
> which is intended for 1% of your customers, and apply it to the other
> 99% which could have done with a much simpler solution. That's more
> overkill, IMHO.

No, I take a single solution that works for 99% of my clients and just
so happens to work for the other 1% because the solution is homogenous.
Additionally the solution is re-usable and can be applied at ANY point
within the PHP code. Your solution is required to wrap the PHP script
invocation and thus is not as versatile. Additionally my solution is
hardly complex. Ooooh... a class wrapper around mkdir() that's tuff to
grok. Similarly adding features to the class is simplistic and instantly
available to all applications that want to use locks and not just
applications wanting to be launched from a shell script that manages the
locks. I guess you also have problems with using PHP classes that pull
in directory listings, perform file uploads/downloads, image
manipulations, etc. All these can be done with the shell, by extension
of your argument they appear to have no place in PHP code.

Moving along... why the heck would anyone want to punt logic to the
shell that could easily be incorporated into the application. You almost
certainly give up control and flexibility in such cases.

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Re: [PHP] Mozilla user agent escapes detection

[Jochem Maas]

Shawn McKenzie schreef:

Jochem Maas wrote:

Dave M G schreef:

PHP List,

I have a script, part of which is taken from a script I found on the 
'net, which tries to detect the user agent of the browser accessing 
the site. One of the reasons I'm doing this is to find out if the 
browser is a desktop or mobile.


Part of the code looks like this:

$ua = strtolower($_SERVER['HTTP_USER_AGENT']);
$isDesktop = (strpos($ua, 'firefox') !== false)
|| (strpos($ua,'mosaic') !== false)
|| (strpos($ua,'msie') !== false)
|| (strpos($ua,'opera') !== false)
|| (strpos($ua,'mozilla') !== false)
|| (strpos($ua,'w3c_css_validator') !== false)
|| (strpos($ua,'w3c_validator') !== false);

What's driving me crazy is that it successfully determines all the 
browsers listed there, *except* mozilla.


Mozilla !== mozilla


Look at the code: strtolower('Mozilla') === 'mozilla'


oh crap :-)



-Shawn


stripos is the case-insenstive version of strpos



I have a log file which alerts me when an unknown browser comes 
through my site, and it's chock full of messages telling me that a 
Mozilla based browser has come by. There are a *lot* of Mozilla based 
browsers.


Some examples from my logs of the browsers slipping by my test:

HTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/5.0 compatible; Yahoo! Slurp
HTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/5.0 compatible; Googlebot/2.1


these 2 are bots btw.


HTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/5.0 X11; U; Linux i686

In each case, the strpos() should have seen the mozilla agent and not 
bothered logging it.


It's not complicated code, especially considering it's successfully 
finding msie and firefox.


I can't imagine why Mozilla would be different.

Any suggestions? Is there something about my code right in front of 
my face that I'm not seeing?


Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


STW? plenty of people offering code that attempts to detect mobile 
devices, e.g.:


http://www.andymoore.info/php-to-detect-mobile-phones/

also I'd offer a link in the top of your site pointing to the mobile site
(and vice-versa) in order to:

1. allow bots to visit both.
2. in case your code guessed incorrectly for some user(s)

I'd also check the UA string specifically for bots first and just let 
them

through ... they are neither desktop nor mobile browsers.

additionally you might consider how you want to accomodate text browsers
(which is kind of what a bot is)



Thanks.








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Re: [PHP] newbie - PHP escaping trigger happy

[seungp]

IIRC. That's covered under magic quotes . You should be able to turn that off 
via a config switch in php.ini or .htaccess.

  
-Original Message-
From: Govinda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 20:21:10 
To: PHP-General List
Subject: [PHP] newbie - PHP escaping trigger happy

Just a quick Q, which I know has to be in the docs somewhere, but I  
haven't come across it yet-

PHP automatically escaping single and double quotes...  how to turn it  
off?

I.e.-
in a form text input, someone inputs
love's "influence" 

and on the posted page I get:
love\'s \"influence\"

WHen I wrap that with  htmlspecialchars , then I get:
love\'s \"influence\" 

What I want is:
love's "influence"  

in this case anyway.  Probably if I understood why PHP was escaping  
the quotes, then I likely would want that behavior in those  
circumstances it was designed for...  but not now, and I don't know  
how to turn it off.

Thanks,
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[PHP] Confused

[Dan Shirah]

All,

Okay, I am a bit confused.   I'm setting up another server to host PHP
pages.  I followed everything in the Manual for installing PHP.  I'm running
Windows Server 2003, IIS6.0 and PHP 5.2.6.

And...it kind of works...

If I do:  it prints fine.
If I do: Today is:  it prints fine.

If I do: You are recognized as:  I get no output.
If I do:
 if (!$connect_id = ifx_connect("[EMAIL PROTECTED]", $user, $pass)) { //
THE ACTUAL CONNECTION
 echo "Unable to connect to Informix Database\n"; // DISPLAY IF
CONNECTION FAILS
 exit();
  }

I don't get a connection to the database and the "Unable to connect to
Informix Database\n"; does not even display.

I get no errors output to the screen and I have display_errors = On
And I have error_reporting = E_ALL & ~E_NOTICE

Any ideas?

RE: [PHP] Confused

[Simcha]

This does not seem to be an installation problem -

Your test [(!$connect_id = ] fails, since the connect returns false, so it
does not run the condition.

Compare:




-Original Message-
From: Dan Shirah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 7:31 PM
To: PHP List
Subject: [PHP] Confused

All,

Okay, I am a bit confused.   I'm setting up another server to host PHP
pages.  I followed everything in the Manual for installing PHP.  I'm running
Windows Server 2003, IIS6.0 and PHP 5.2.6.

And...it kind of works...

If I do:  it prints fine.
If I do: Today is:  it prints fine.

If I do: You are recognized as:  I get no output.
If I do:
 if (!$connect_id = ifx_connect("[EMAIL PROTECTED]", $user, $pass)) { //
THE ACTUAL CONNECTION
 echo "Unable to connect to Informix Database\n"; // DISPLAY IF
CONNECTION FAILS
 exit();
  }

I don't get a connection to the database and the "Unable to connect to
Informix Database\n"; does not even display.

I get no errors output to the screen and I have display_errors = On
And I have error_reporting = E_ALL & ~E_NOTICE

Any ideas?

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Re: [PHP] Confused

[Robert Cummings]

On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 13:31 -0400, Dan Shirah wrote:
> All,
> 
> Okay, I am a bit confused.   I'm setting up another server to host PHP
> pages.  I followed everything in the Manual for installing PHP.  I'm running
> Windows Server 2003, IIS6.0 and PHP 5.2.6.
> 
> And...it kind of works...
> 
> If I do:  it prints fine.
> If I do: Today is:  it prints fine.
> 
> If I do: You are recognized as:  13); ?> I get no output.

Add the following:

'."\n"
print_r( $_SERVER );
echo ''."\n";

?>

See if the AUTH_USER entry is in there.

> If I do:
>  if (!$connect_id = ifx_connect("[EMAIL PROTECTED]", $user, $pass)) { //
> THE ACTUAL CONNECTION
>  echo "Unable to connect to Informix Database\n"; // DISPLAY IF
> CONNECTION FAILS
>  exit();
>   }
> 
> I don't get a connection to the database and the "Unable to connect to
> Informix Database\n"; does not even display.

Shouldn't that be:

if( !($connect_id = ifx_connect("[EMAIL PROTECTED]", $user, $pass)) )

I think PHP may support the style you've used, but I sure as heck
wouldn't use it.

How do you know you don't get a connection to the database? What is the
value of $connect_id? Use var_dump( $connect_id ) to find out.

> I get no errors output to the screen and I have display_errors = On
> And I have error_reporting = E_ALL & ~E_NOTICE

Maybe turn on notices as well. That will probably generate a notice for
the missing AUTH_USER index.

> 
> Any ideas?
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Re: [PHP] Confused

[Dan Shirah]

If it was that simple then the second line: echo "Unable to connect to
Informix Database\n";  would execute upon the connection failing and that
message would be output to my screen.  I get Nothing.

Just as a simple call to 
returns nothing as well.


On 9/2/08, Simcha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> This does not seem to be an installation problem -
>
> Your test [(!$connect_id = ] fails, since the connect returns false, so it
> does not run the condition.
>
> Compare:
> 
> if($a = false){echo "no good";}else{echo "condition true";}
>
> ?>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dan Shirah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 7:31 PM
> To: PHP List
> Subject: [PHP] Confused
>
> All,
>
> Okay, I am a bit confused.   I'm setting up another server to host PHP
> pages.  I followed everything in the Manual for installing PHP.  I'm
> running
> Windows Server 2003, IIS6.0 and PHP 5.2.6.
>
> And...it kind of works...
>
> If I do:  it prints fine.
> If I do: Today is:  it prints fine.
>
> If I do: You are recognized as:  13); ?> I get no output.
> If I do:
> if (!$connect_id = ifx_connect("[EMAIL PROTECTED]", $user, $pass)) { //
> THE ACTUAL CONNECTION
> echo "Unable to connect to Informix Database\n"; // DISPLAY IF
> CONNECTION FAILS
> exit();
> }
>
> I don't get a connection to the database and the "Unable to connect to
> Informix Database\n"; does not even display.
>
> I get no errors output to the screen and I have display_errors = On
> And I have error_reporting = E_ALL & ~E_NOTICE
>
> Any ideas?
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
> Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.14/1646 - Release Date: 02/09/2008
> 06:02
>
>

RE: [PHP] Confused

[Simcha]

Ignore my previous email - 
It was sloppy. I was not focusing on the email.

SY
-Original Message-
From: Simcha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 8:41 PM
To: 'Dan Shirah'; 'PHP List'
Subject: RE: [PHP] Confused

This does not seem to be an installation problem -

Your test [(!$connect_id = ] fails, since the connect returns false, so it
does not run the condition.

Compare:




-Original Message-
From: Dan Shirah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 7:31 PM
To: PHP List
Subject: [PHP] Confused

All,

Okay, I am a bit confused.   I'm setting up another server to host PHP
pages.  I followed everything in the Manual for installing PHP.  I'm running
Windows Server 2003, IIS6.0 and PHP 5.2.6.

And...it kind of works...

If I do:  it prints fine.
If I do: Today is:  it prints fine.

If I do: You are recognized as:  I get no output.
If I do:
 if (!$connect_id = ifx_connect("[EMAIL PROTECTED]", $user, $pass)) { //
THE ACTUAL CONNECTION
 echo "Unable to connect to Informix Database\n"; // DISPLAY IF
CONNECTION FAILS
 exit();
  }

I don't get a connection to the database and the "Unable to connect to
Informix Database\n"; does not even display.

I get no errors output to the screen and I have display_errors = On
And I have error_reporting = E_ALL & ~E_NOTICE

Any ideas?

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Re: [PHP] Re: concatenating with "." or ","

[Robert Cummings]

On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 20:58 +0300, Thodoris wrote:
> 1982
> 
> Thank you guys it is a late reply but you really make me feel so young 
> and cunning.

This begs the question... are you also a linguist?

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Re: [PHP] Confused

[brian]

Dan Shirah wrote:

All,

Okay, I am a bit confused.   I'm setting up another server to host PHP
pages.  I followed everything in the Manual for installing PHP.  I'm running
Windows Server 2003, IIS6.0 and PHP 5.2.6.

And...it kind of works...

If I do:  it prints fine.
If I do: Today is:  it prints fine.

If I do: You are recognized as:  I get no output.


AUTH_USER will be empty unless the user has logged in (using whatever 
Microsoft's equivalent of htpasswd/htdigest is). As suggested 
previously, print $_SERVER to ensure it's set.



If I do:
 if (!$connect_id = ifx_connect("[EMAIL PROTECTED]", $user, $pass)) { //
THE ACTUAL CONNECTION
 echo "Unable to connect to Informix Database\n"; // DISPLAY IF
CONNECTION FAILS
 exit();
  }

I don't get a connection to the database and the "Unable to connect to
Informix Database\n"; does not even display.

I get no errors output to the screen and I have display_errors = On
And I have error_reporting = E_ALL & ~E_NOTICE

Any ideas?




$connect_id = ifx_connect("[EMAIL PROTECTED]", $user, $pass);

var_dump($connect_id);

And, to be sure, maybe echo $database, $host, $user, and $pass.

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Re: [PHP] Creating single row for multiple items.

[brian]

Tom Shaw wrote:

My array looks very similar to this. I need to create a single row for the
items that have the same order number for CSV export.  I'd prefer to do this
PHP wise instead of SQL. But would appreciate any help I can get.


$ar = array(

   array(

 "order_id" => "34",

 "order_number" => "35Y345Y356YU3",

 "order_name" => "Steinway Grand Piano #11",

 "order_ordered_size" => "Grand",

 "order_sales_price" => "78671.90",

 "order_shipping_price" => "7.85",

 "order_shipping_extra" => "0.06",

   ),

   array(
...


A single row of *what*? The order_ids? The order_names? Perhaps you 
should post an example of the outcome you're looking for.


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Re: [PHP] Confused

[Dan Shirah]

>
> Add the following:
>
> 
> echo ''."\n"
> print_r( $_SERVER );
> echo ''."\n";
>
> ?>
>
> See if the AUTH_USER entry is in there.


AUTH_USER shows up, but does not have a value. From the output of phpinfo()
it says, "No value"

How do you know you don't get a connection to the database? What is the
> value of $connect_id? Use var_dump( $connect_id ) to find out.


I know it isn't connecting because I can go to the database and see that
there is no active connections to it.

Re: [PHP] Mozilla user agent escapes detection

[Diogo Neves]

On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Jochem Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Shawn McKenzie schreef:
>
>> Jochem Maas wrote:
>>
>>> Dave M G schreef:
>>>
 PHP List,

 I have a script, part of which is taken from a script I found on the
 'net, which tries to detect the user agent of the browser accessing the
 site. One of the reasons I'm doing this is to find out if the browser is a
 desktop or mobile.

 Part of the code looks like this:

 $ua = strtolower($_SERVER['HTTP_USER_AGENT']);
 $isDesktop = (strpos($ua, 'firefox') !== false)
 || (strpos($ua,'mosaic') !== false)
 || (strpos($ua,'msie') !== false)
 || (strpos($ua,'opera') !== false)
 || (strpos($ua,'mozilla') !== false)
 || (strpos($ua,'w3c_css_validator') !== false)
 || (strpos($ua,'w3c_validator') !== false);

 What's driving me crazy is that it successfully determines all the
 browsers listed there, *except* mozilla.

>>>
>>> Mozilla !== mozilla
>>>
>>
>> Look at the code: strtolower('Mozilla') === 'mozilla'
>>
>
> oh crap :-)
>
>
>
>> -Shawn
>>
>>>
>>> stripos is the case-insenstive version of strpos
>>>
>>>
 I have a log file which alerts me when an unknown browser comes through
 my site, and it's chock full of messages telling me that a Mozilla based
 browser has come by. There are a *lot* of Mozilla based browsers.

 Some examples from my logs of the browsers slipping by my test:

 HTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/5.0 compatible; Yahoo! Slurp
 HTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/5.0 compatible; Googlebot/2.1

>>>
>>> these 2 are bots btw.
>>>
>>>  HTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/5.0 X11; U; Linux i686

 In each case, the strpos() should have seen the mozilla agent and not
 bothered logging it.

 It's not complicated code, especially considering it's successfully
 finding msie and firefox.

 I can't imagine why Mozilla would be different.

 Any suggestions? Is there something about my code right in front of my
 face that I'm not seeing?

 Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

>>>
>>> STW? plenty of people offering code that attempts to detect mobile
>>> devices, e.g.:
>>>
>>> http://www.andymoore.info/php-to-detect-mobile-phones/
>>>
>>> also I'd offer a link in the top of your site pointing to the mobile site
>>> (and vice-versa) in order to:
>>>
>>> 1. allow bots to visit both.
>>> 2. in case your code guessed incorrectly for some user(s)
>>>
>>> I'd also check the UA string specifically for bots first and just let
>>> them
>>> through ... they are neither desktop nor mobile browsers.
>>>
>>> additionally you might consider how you want to accomodate text browsers
>>> (which is kind of what a bot is)
>>>
>>>
 Thanks.


>>>
>>
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> Anyway, this code is working...
I changed my useragent in Firefox and it worked pretty well to me...


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Re: [PHP] Creating single row for multiple items.

[Diogo Neves]

On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 7:17 PM, brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Tom Shaw wrote:
>
>> My array looks very similar to this. I need to create a single row for the
>> items that have the same order number for CSV export.  I'd prefer to do
>> this
>> PHP wise instead of SQL. But would appreciate any help I can get.
>>
>>
>> $ar = array(
>>
>>   array(
>>
>> "order_id" => "34",
>>
>> "order_number" => "35Y345Y356YU3",
>>
>> "order_name" => "Steinway Grand Piano #11",
>>
>> "order_ordered_size" => "Grand",
>>
>> "order_sales_price" => "78671.90",
>>
>> "order_shipping_price" => "7.85",
>>
>> "order_shipping_extra" => "0.06",
>>
>>   ),
>>
>>   array(
>> ...
>>
>
> A single row of *what*? The order_ids? The order_names? Perhaps you should
> post an example of the outcome you're looking for.
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Re: [PHP] Confused

[Robert Cummings]

On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 14:27 -0400, Dan Shirah wrote:
> >
> > Add the following:
> >
> >  >
> > echo ''."\n"
> > print_r( $_SERVER );
> > echo ''."\n";
> >
> > ?>
> >
> > See if the AUTH_USER entry is in there.
> 
> 
> AUTH_USER shows up, but does not have a value. From the output of phpinfo()
> it says, "No value"
> 
> How do you know you don't get a connection to the database? What is the
> > value of $connect_id? Use var_dump( $connect_id ) to find out.
> 
> 
> I know it isn't connecting because I can go to the database and see that
> there is no active connections to it.

So you're script runs long enough for you to check?

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Re: [PHP] Recommendation

[Robert Cummings]

On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 14:07 -0400, Bastien Koert wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Shawn McKenzie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> 
> > Eric Butera wrote:
> >
> >> I'm on there too.
> >>
> >> http://www.linkedin.com/in/ericbutera
> >>
> >
> > Me too...
> >
> > http://www.linkedin.com/in/rsmckenzie
> >
> > -Shawn
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> toss in mine as well
> 
>  http://www.linkedin.com/in/bastienkoert

I may as well be another me too :)

http://www.linkedin.com/in/robertcummings123

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Re: [PHP] Confused

[Eric Butera]

On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Dan Shirah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If it was that simple then the second line: echo "Unable to connect to
> Informix Database\n";  would execute upon the connection failing and that
> message would be output to my screen.  I get Nothing.
>
> Just as a simple call to 
> returns nothing as well.
>
>
> On 9/2/08, Simcha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> This does not seem to be an installation problem -
>>
>> Your test [(!$connect_id = ] fails, since the connect returns false, so it
>> does not run the condition.
>>
>> Compare:
>> >
>> if($a = false){echo "no good";}else{echo "condition true";}
>>
>> ?>
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Dan Shirah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 7:31 PM
>> To: PHP List
>> Subject: [PHP] Confused
>>
>> All,
>>
>> Okay, I am a bit confused.   I'm setting up another server to host PHP
>> pages.  I followed everything in the Manual for installing PHP.  I'm
>> running
>> Windows Server 2003, IIS6.0 and PHP 5.2.6.
>>
>> And...it kind of works...
>>
>> If I do:  it prints fine.
>> If I do: Today is:  it prints fine.
>>
>> If I do: You are recognized as: > 13); ?> I get no output.
>> If I do:
>> if (!$connect_id = ifx_connect("[EMAIL PROTECTED]", $user, $pass)) { //
>> THE ACTUAL CONNECTION
>> echo "Unable to connect to Informix Database\n"; // DISPLAY IF
>> CONNECTION FAILS
>> exit();
>> }
>>
>> I don't get a connection to the database and the "Unable to connect to
>> Informix Database\n"; does not even display.
>>
>> I get no errors output to the screen and I have display_errors = On
>> And I have error_reporting = E_ALL & ~E_NOTICE
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
>> Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.14/1646 - Release Date: 02/09/2008
>> 06:02
>>
>>
>

Look at your server error log.  Maybe you have a parse error or
something that prevents it from getting to the screen.

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Re: [PHP] Re: concatenating with "." or ","

[Thodoris]

1982

Thank you guys it is a late reply but you really make me feel so young 
and cunning.


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O/H Robert Cummings ??:

On Wed, 2008-08-27 at 14:44 -0400, tedd wrote:
  

At 1:24 PM -0400 8/27/08, Robert Cummings wrote:


On Wed, 2008-08-27 at 13:17 -0400, tedd wrote:
 > As it is, you Stut, Rob, and Daniel are going to be the ones who
  

 fight out who's the sharpest crayon in this box. I'm glad I no longer
 have to defend that title (as if I ever did).


Bah, who put me in a box with crayons. I'm a scalpel for crying out
loud. Anyways, I could wax on forever, but cutting to the point... I
think I'm hanging with the wrong bunch of tools.

(multiple puns intended ;)
  

:-)

Don't give up your day job for stand-up.



 But, I would rather get the good looking girl anyway (as I have
 already done). :-)


Isn't it amazing the amount of choice in blow up dolls these days?

(ducks and runs)

Cheers,
Rob.
  

LOL! Good one!

My wife just got her gun and is asking "Who is the Rob character anyway?"



So you could say she's blowing up at me? That's awesome!!
Self-inflating! ;)

Cheers,
Rob.
  

Re: [PHP] Confused

[Dan Shirah]

>
> So you're script runs long enough for you to check?
>
> Cheers,
> Rob.


if (!$connect_id = ifx_connect("[EMAIL PROTECTED]", $user, $pass)) {

Checks to see if it doesn't connect.  If it does connect the page continues
to process.  If it doesn't connect the error is displayed.
echo "Unable to connect to Informix Database\n";

If I put in the following:

echo "Point 1";
if (!$connect_id = ifx_connect("[EMAIL PROTECTED]", $user, $pass)) { // THE
ACTUAL CONNECTION
echo "Point 2";
 echo "Unable to connect to Informix Database\n"; // DISPLAY IF
CONNECTION FAILS
echo "Point 3";
 exit();
  }
echo "Point 4";

The only thing that is output to my screen is "Point 1"

Re: [PHP] Confused

[Robert Cummings]

On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 14:43 -0400, Dan Shirah wrote:
> So you're script runs long enough for you to check?
> 
> Cheers,
> Rob.
>  
> if (!$connect_id = ifx_connect("[EMAIL PROTECTED]", $user, $pass)) {
>  
> Checks to see if it doesn't connect.  If it does connect the page
> continues to process.  If it doesn't connect the error is displayed.
> echo "Unable to connect to Informix Database\n"; 
>  
> If I put in the following:
>  
> echo "Point 1";
> if (!$connect_id = ifx_connect("[EMAIL PROTECTED]", $user, $pass)) { //
> THE ACTUAL CONNECTION
> echo "Point 2";
>  echo "Unable to connect to Informix Database\n"; // DISPLAY IF
> CONNECTION FAILS
> echo "Point 3";
>  exit();
>   }
> echo "Point 4";
>  
> The only thing that is output to my screen is "Point 1"

Your script is dying then. What does the error log say? Are you sure PHP
is using the php.ini you think it's using? Double check by using
phpinfo().

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Re: [PHP] Recommendation

[Bastien Koert]

On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Shawn McKenzie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Eric Butera wrote:
>
>> I'm on there too.
>>
>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/ericbutera
>>
>
> Me too...
>
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/rsmckenzie
>
> -Shawn
>
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Re: [PHP] Confused

[Robert Cummings]

On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 14:46 -0400, Robert Cummings wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 14:43 -0400, Dan Shirah wrote:
> > So you're script runs long enough for you to check?
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Rob.
> >  
> > if (!$connect_id = ifx_connect("[EMAIL PROTECTED]", $user, $pass)) {
> >  
> > Checks to see if it doesn't connect.  If it does connect the page
> > continues to process.  If it doesn't connect the error is displayed.
> > echo "Unable to connect to Informix Database\n"; 
> >  
> > If I put in the following:
> >  
> > echo "Point 1";
> > if (!$connect_id = ifx_connect("[EMAIL PROTECTED]", $user, $pass)) { //
> > THE ACTUAL CONNECTION
> > echo "Point 2";
> >  echo "Unable to connect to Informix Database\n"; // DISPLAY IF
> > CONNECTION FAILS
> > echo "Point 3";
> >  exit();
> >   }
> > echo "Point 4";
> >  
> > The only thing that is output to my screen is "Point 1"
> 
> Your script is dying then. What does the error log say? Are you sure PHP
> is using the php.ini you think it's using? Double check by using
> phpinfo().

BTW, my guess is that ifx_connect() doesn't exist. Possibly you don't
have ifx support.

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Re: [PHP] Recommendation

[Dan Joseph]

What about also creating a PHP General List group?  Has anyone created
Groups on linkedin before?  Maybe we could get quite a few people "linked"
thru one?

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Re: [PHP] Recommendation

[Eric Butera]

On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 2:35 PM, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 14:07 -0400, Bastien Koert wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Shawn McKenzie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>>
>> > Eric Butera wrote:
>> >
>> >> I'm on there too.
>> >>
>> >> http://www.linkedin.com/in/ericbutera
>> >>
>> >
>> > Me too...
>> >
>> > http://www.linkedin.com/in/rsmckenzie
>> >
>> > -Shawn
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)
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>> >
>> >
>> toss in mine as well
>>
>>  http://www.linkedin.com/in/bastienkoert
>
> I may as well be another me too :)
>
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/robertcummings123
>
> Cheers,
> Rob.
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123?

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RE: [PHP] Recommendation

[Jay Blanchard]

[snip]
What about also creating a PHP General List group?  Has anyone created
Groups on linkedin before?  Maybe we could get quite a few people
"linked"
thru one?
[/snip]

I am on LinkedIn and having a group would be very cool.

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Re: [PHP] Recommendation

[Robert Cummings]

On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 14:42 -0400, Eric Butera wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 2:35 PM, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 14:07 -0400, Bastien Koert wrote:
> >> On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Shawn McKenzie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> >>
> >> > Eric Butera wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I'm on there too.
> >> >>
> >> >> http://www.linkedin.com/in/ericbutera
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > Me too...
> >> >
> >> > http://www.linkedin.com/in/rsmckenzie
> >> >
> >> > -Shawn
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
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> >> >
> >> >
> >> toss in mine as well
> >>
> >>  http://www.linkedin.com/in/bastienkoert
> >
> > I may as well be another me too :)
> >
> > http://www.linkedin.com/in/robertcummings123
> >
> > 
> 
> 123?

There's more than one robertcummings and I wasn't first :(

*hehe*

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Re: [PHP] Confused

[Dan Shirah]

>
> Your script is dying then. What does the error log say? Are you sure PHP
> is using the php.ini you think it's using? Double check by using
> phpinfo().
>
> Cheers,
> Rob.


It is VERY strange!  phpinfo() shows that it is using C:\Windows\php.ini

phpinfo() also shows display_errors = Off but when I go to the
C:\Windows\php.ini file it says display_errors = On...

Re: [PHP] Confused

[Robert Cummings]

On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 14:58 -0400, Dan Shirah wrote:
> Your script is dying then. What does the error log say? Are
> you sure PHP
> is using the php.ini you think it's using? Double check by
> using
> phpinfo().
> 
> Cheers,
> Rob.
>  
> It is VERY strange!  phpinfo() shows that it is using C:\Windows
> \php.ini
>  
> phpinfo() also shows display_errors = Off but when I go to the C:
> \Windows\php.ini file it says display_errors = On...

Does your script, the apache conf, virtual host conf, or a .htaccess
conf modify this setting? perhaps php.ini has more than one
display_errors entries?

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Re: [PHP] Confused

[Diogo Neves]

On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 7:58 PM, Dan Shirah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >
> > Your script is dying then. What does the error log say? Are you sure PHP
> > is using the php.ini you think it's using? Double check by using
> > phpinfo().
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Rob.
>
>
> It is VERY strange!  phpinfo() shows that it is using C:\Windows\php.ini
>
> phpinfo() also shows display_errors = Off but when I go to the
> C:\Windows\php.ini file it says display_errors = On...
>

You can be rewriting it on your vistualhost or in a script somewhere...

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Re: [PHP] Confused

[Diogo Neves]

On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 8:04 PM, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 14:58 -0400, Dan Shirah wrote:
> > Your script is dying then. What does the error log say? Are
> > you sure PHP
> > is using the php.ini you think it's using? Double check by
> > using
> > phpinfo().
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Rob.
> >
> > It is VERY strange!  phpinfo() shows that it is using C:\Windows
> > \php.ini
> >
> > phpinfo() also shows display_errors = Off but when I go to the C:
> > \Windows\php.ini file it says display_errors = On...
>
> Does your script, the apache conf, virtual host conf, or a .htaccess
> conf modify this setting? perhaps php.ini has more than one
> display_errors entries?
>
> Cheers,
> Rob.
>
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Re: [PHP] Confused

[David Giragosian]

On 9/2/08, Dan Shirah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> > Your script is dying then. What does the error log say? Are you sure PHP
> > is using the php.ini you think it's using? Double check by using
> > phpinfo().
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Rob.
>
>
> It is VERY strange!  phpinfo() shows that it is using C:\Windows\php.ini
>
> phpinfo() also shows display_errors = Off but when I go to the
> C:\Windows\php.ini file it says display_errors = On...
>

Have you restarted the server since changes were made?

David

RE: [PHP] Recommendation

[Jay Blanchard]

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Re: [PHP] Confused

[Dan Shirah]

> Does your script, the apache conf, virtual host conf, or a .htaccess
> conf modify this setting? perhaps php.ini has more than one
> display_errors entries?
>
> Cheers,
> Rob.


PROGRESS!  It just clicked!

About 3 years ago when I setup my first PHP server on Windows I saw someone
mention that certain versions of ntwdblib.dll were causing all kinds of
problems.

I copied the ntwdblib.dll from one of my current servers and now I am at
least getting the connection errors!  YAY!

So now my connection error is probably in my ODBC mapping.

But I still need to figure out why AUTH_USER is still "No Value"

Re: [PHP] Confused

[Eric Butera]

On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 14:46 -0400, Robert Cummings wrote:
>> On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 14:43 -0400, Dan Shirah wrote:
>> > So you're script runs long enough for you to check?
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Rob.
>> >
>> > if (!$connect_id = ifx_connect("[EMAIL PROTECTED]", $user, $pass)) {
>> >
>> > Checks to see if it doesn't connect.  If it does connect the page
>> > continues to process.  If it doesn't connect the error is displayed.
>> > echo "Unable to connect to Informix Database\n";
>> >
>> > If I put in the following:
>> >
>> > echo "Point 1";
>> > if (!$connect_id = ifx_connect("[EMAIL PROTECTED]", $user, $pass)) { //
>> > THE ACTUAL CONNECTION
>> > echo "Point 2";
>> >  echo "Unable to connect to Informix Database\n"; // DISPLAY IF
>> > CONNECTION FAILS
>> > echo "Point 3";
>> >  exit();
>> >   }
>> > echo "Point 4";
>> >
>> > The only thing that is output to my screen is "Point 1"
>>
>> Your script is dying then. What does the error log say? Are you sure PHP
>> is using the php.ini you think it's using? Double check by using
>> phpinfo().
>
> BTW, my guess is that ifx_connect() doesn't exist. Possibly you don't
> have ifx support.
>
> Cheers,
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Yea I thought the same that is why I recommended the looking at logs idea.

Perhaps maybe just running form cli will do it:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Sites$ php5 blah.php
Point 1
Fatal error: Call to undefined function ifx_connect() in
/home/eric/Sites/blah.php on line 3

Call Stack:
0.0002  60252   1. {main}() /home/eric/Sites/blah.php:0

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Re: [PHP] Confused

[Dan Shirah]

>
> Yea I thought the same that is why I recommended the looking at logs idea.
>
> Perhaps maybe just running form cli will do it:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Sites$ php5 blah.php
> Point 1
> Fatal error: Call to undefined function ifx_connect() in
> /home/eric/Sites/blah.php on line 3



You probably don't have extension=php_ifx.dll uncommented? Or you don't have
php_ifx.dll in your ext folder?

Re: [PHP] Confused

[Eric Butera]

On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 3:15 PM, Dan Shirah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Yea I thought the same that is why I recommended the looking at logs idea.
>>
>> Perhaps maybe just running form cli will do it:
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Sites$ php5 blah.php
>> Point 1
>> Fatal error: Call to undefined function ifx_connect() in
>> /home/eric/Sites/blah.php on line 3
>
>
>
> You probably don't have extension=php_ifx.dll uncommented? Or you don't have
> php_ifx.dll in your ext folder?
>
>

I don't use windows.  I knew I didn't have it enabled. :)

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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

[Diogo Neves]

On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 4:33 PM, Richard Heyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> And more about it:
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7593106.stm
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> www.google.com/chrome

Now is the time ;)


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[PHP] Re: geolocation

[zerof]

clive escreveu:

Hi,

Have any developed a site that determines a users location based on IP  
address, Im not looking for accurate locations, just what country they 
are coming from.


I know I could possible get a list of IP blocks allocated to countries 
or make use of some web server to get the information, I just want to 
know how others are doing this?


If are using a specific method and know it to be robust and up to date 
please let me know.


Thanks

clive

I use GeoIP from Maxmind, too, and I wrote a brief tutorial on how to 
use it.


http://www.educar.pro.br/i_en/GeoIP/
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[PHP] Secure way to handle pw on session.

[k bah]

 Hi,

 I noticed session files are kept on /tmp for a while, and even if they were 
immediately deleted, well, someone could use one of my php scripts to inject 
code and read them, since they belong to the httpd user.
 What's the best way to receive passwords thru a form and store them in the 
$_SESSION while I process other information to decide whether or not that user 
is able to proceed and login (check to see if user is also allowed to use that 
service, not just validate user/pw)? I use https, always, no plain http is used.

 Thanks

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Re: [PHP] Secure way to handle pw on session.

[Dan Joseph]

On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 3:27 PM, k bah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>  Hi,
>
>  I noticed session files are kept on /tmp for a while, and even if they
> were immediately deleted, well, someone could use one of my php scripts to
> inject code and read them, since they belong to the httpd user.
>  What's the best way to receive passwords thru a form and store them in the
> $_SESSION while I process other information to decide whether or not that
> user is able to proceed and login (check to see if user is also allowed to
> use that service, not just validate user/pw)? I use https, always, no plain
> http is used.
>
>  Thanks
>
> =
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I personally would recommend you never store passwords in $_SESSION.

I don't know how your auth code works, but the way I've always done it would
be to process everything when you his submit, with the password being in
$_POST or $_GET, then after you authenticate the user, drop it and don't
store it with sessions.  If you find you need it to be stored for other
things, I'd suggest rethinking the design/checking you're doing.

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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

[Stut]

On 2 Sep 2008, at 20:23, Diogo Neves wrote:

Now is the time ;)


Indeed: http://www.google.com/chrome

But only for Windows for now :(

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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

[Thiago Melo de Paula]

Yes, and the proxy configuration lauches the IE configuration window!


On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Stut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 2 Sep 2008, at 20:23, Diogo Neves wrote:
>
>> Now is the time ;)
>>
>
> Indeed: http://www.google.com/chrome
>
> But only for Windows for now :(
>
> -Stut
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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

[Eric Butera]

On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 3:38 PM, Stut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 2 Sep 2008, at 20:23, Diogo Neves wrote:
>>
>> Now is the time ;)
>
> Indeed: http://www.google.com/chrome
>
> But only for Windows for now :(
>
> -Stut
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I got the linux version coming soon message myself.  It will probably
be instructions on how to install wine, right? ;)

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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

[Dan Joseph]

On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 3:38 PM, Stut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 2 Sep 2008, at 20:23, Diogo Neves wrote:
>
>> Now is the time ;)
>>
>
> Indeed: http://www.google.com/chrome
>
> But only for Windows for now :(
>
> -Stut
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Well its not that exciting I guess.  All the hype, and its a browser. :)  It
is fast though, I'll give it that.

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Re: [PHP] Secure way to handle pw on session.

[Micah Gersten]

Take a look at this:
http://us2.php.net/manual/en/function.session-save-path.php

Thank you,
Micah Gersten
onShore Networks
Internal Developer
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k bah wrote:
>  Hi,
>
>  I noticed session files are kept on /tmp for a while, and even if they were 
> immediately deleted, well, someone could use one of my php scripts to inject 
> code and read them, since they belong to the httpd user.
>  What's the best way to receive passwords thru a form and store them in the 
> $_SESSION while I process other information to decide whether or not that 
> user is able to proceed and login (check to see if user is also allowed to 
> use that service, not just validate user/pw)? I use https, always, no plain 
> http is used.
>
>  Thanks
>
> =
>
>
>   

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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

[Richard Heyes]

> www.google.com/chrome
>
> Now is the time ;)

Sadly, my bedtime looms. Tomorrow I think...

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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

[Richard Heyes]

> I got the linux version coming soon message myself.  It will probably
> be instructions on how to install wine, right? ;)

Or Windows... :-)

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Re: [PHP] Secure way to handle pw on session.

[mike]

As an additional note suhosin can transparently encrypt and decrypt  
your session data for reasons just like the /tmp issue. It happens  
without you needing to configure anything (except to enable or disable  
it) I think it is enabled by default.


On Sep 2, 2008, at 12:35 PM, "Dan Joseph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 3:27 PM, k bah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Hi,

I noticed session files are kept on /tmp for a while, and even if  
they
were immediately deleted, well, someone could use one of my php  
scripts to

inject code and read them, since they belong to the httpd user.
What's the best way to receive passwords thru a form and store them  
in the
$_SESSION while I process other information to decide whether or  
not that
user is able to proceed and login (check to see if user is also  
allowed to
use that service, not just validate user/pw)? I use https, always,  
no plain

http is used.

Thanks

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I personally would recommend you never store passwords in $_SESSION.

I don't know how your auth code works, but the way I've always done  
it would
be to process everything when you his submit, with the password  
being in
$_POST or $_GET, then after you authenticate the user, drop it and  
don't
store it with sessions.  If you find you need it to be stored for  
other

things, I'd suggest rethinking the design/checking you're doing.

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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

[Robert Cummings]

On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 20:38 +0100, Stut wrote:
> On 2 Sep 2008, at 20:23, Diogo Neves wrote:
> > Now is the time ;)
> 
> Indeed: http://www.google.com/chrome
> 
> But only for Windows for now :(

Oh well, guess I'll have to run it in vmware. Fortunately I have a
dedicate 1TB drive for vmware appliances :)

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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

[Douglas Temple]

Beta or not, it's still amazingly fast.
Despite the fact you can't scroll up with the mouse wheel...

Re: [PHP] Secure way to handle pw on session.

[Robert Cummings]

On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 14:45 -0500, Micah Gersten wrote:
> Take a look at this:
> http://us2.php.net/manual/en/function.session-save-path.php

This won't help since the OP mentioned he was worried about code
injection exposing the contents of $_SESSION.

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Re: [PHP] Secure way to handle pw on session.

[Robert Cummings]

On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 12:58 -0700, mike wrote:
> As an additional note suhosin can transparently encrypt and decrypt  
> your session data for reasons just like the /tmp issue. It happens  
> without you needing to configure anything (except to enable or disable  
> it) I think it is enabled by default.

This won't help since the OP mentioned he was worried about code
injection exposing the contents of $_SESSION and presumably suhosin
doesn't prevent restoration of the session on page load.

Cheers,
Rob.



> On Sep 2, 2008, at 12:35 PM, "Dan Joseph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 3:27 PM, k bah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I noticed session files are kept on /tmp for a while, and even if  
> >> they
> >> were immediately deleted, well, someone could use one of my php  
> >> scripts to
> >> inject code and read them, since they belong to the httpd user.
> >> What's the best way to receive passwords thru a form and store them  
> >> in the
> >> $_SESSION while I process other information to decide whether or  
> >> not that
> >> user is able to proceed and login (check to see if user is also  
> >> allowed to
> >> use that service, not just validate user/pw)? I use https, always,  
> >> no plain
> >> http is used.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> =
> >>
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> > I personally would recommend you never store passwords in $_SESSION.
> >
> > I don't know how your auth code works, but the way I've always done  
> > it would
> > be to process everything when you his submit, with the password  
> > being in
> > $_POST or $_GET, then after you authenticate the user, drop it and  
> > don't
> > store it with sessions.  If you find you need it to be stored for  
> > other
> > things, I'd suggest rethinking the design/checking you're doing.
> >
> > -- 
> > -Dan Joseph
> >
> > www.canishosting.com - Plans start @ $1.99/month.
> >
> > "Build a man a fire, and he will be warm for the rest of the day.
> > Light a man on fire, and will be warm for the rest of his life."
> 
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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

[Eric Butera]

On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 4:04 PM, Douglas Temple <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Beta or not, it's still amazingly fast.
> Despite the fact you can't scroll up with the mouse wheel...
>

Ever use Safari?

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Re: [PHP] Secure way to handle pw on session.

[Eric Butera]

On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 12:58 -0700, mike wrote:
>> As an additional note suhosin can transparently encrypt and decrypt
>> your session data for reasons just like the /tmp issue. It happens
>> without you needing to configure anything (except to enable or disable
>> it) I think it is enabled by default.
>
> This won't help since the OP mentioned he was worried about code
> injection exposing the contents of $_SESSION and presumably suhosin
> doesn't prevent restoration of the session on page load.
>
> Cheers,
> Rob.
>
>
>
>> On Sep 2, 2008, at 12:35 PM, "Dan Joseph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> > On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 3:27 PM, k bah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> I noticed session files are kept on /tmp for a while, and even if
>> >> they
>> >> were immediately deleted, well, someone could use one of my php
>> >> scripts to
>> >> inject code and read them, since they belong to the httpd user.
>> >> What's the best way to receive passwords thru a form and store them
>> >> in the
>> >> $_SESSION while I process other information to decide whether or
>> >> not that
>> >> user is able to proceed and login (check to see if user is also
>> >> allowed to
>> >> use that service, not just validate user/pw)? I use https, always,
>> >> no plain
>> >> http is used.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >>
>> >> =
>> >>
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>> >>
>> > I personally would recommend you never store passwords in $_SESSION.
>> >
>> > I don't know how your auth code works, but the way I've always done
>> > it would
>> > be to process everything when you his submit, with the password
>> > being in
>> > $_POST or $_GET, then after you authenticate the user, drop it and
>> > don't
>> > store it with sessions.  If you find you need it to be stored for
>> > other
>> > things, I'd suggest rethinking the design/checking you're doing.
>> >
>> > --
>> > -Dan Joseph
>> >
>> > www.canishosting.com - Plans start @ $1.99/month.
>> >
>> > "Build a man a fire, and he will be warm for the rest of the day.
>> > Light a man on fire, and will be warm for the rest of his life."
>>
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If code is getting injected into our apps we're screwed.

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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

[Douglas Temple]

Once.

'Nuff said.

Re: [PHP] Secure way to handle pw on session.

[Robert Cummings]

On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 16:10 -0400, Eric Butera wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 12:58 -0700, mike wrote:
> >> As an additional note suhosin can transparently encrypt and decrypt
> >> your session data for reasons just like the /tmp issue. It happens
> >> without you needing to configure anything (except to enable or disable
> >> it) I think it is enabled by default.
> >
> > This won't help since the OP mentioned he was worried about code
> > injection exposing the contents of $_SESSION and presumably suhosin
> > doesn't prevent restoration of the session on page load.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Rob.
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Sep 2, 2008, at 12:35 PM, "Dan Joseph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 3:27 PM, k bah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi,
> >> >>
> >> >> I noticed session files are kept on /tmp for a while, and even if
> >> >> they
> >> >> were immediately deleted, well, someone could use one of my php
> >> >> scripts to
> >> >> inject code and read them, since they belong to the httpd user.
> >> >> What's the best way to receive passwords thru a form and store them
> >> >> in the
> >> >> $_SESSION while I process other information to decide whether or
> >> >> not that
> >> >> user is able to proceed and login (check to see if user is also
> >> >> allowed to
> >> >> use that service, not just validate user/pw)? I use https, always,
> >> >> no plain
> >> >> http is used.
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks
> >> >>
> >> >> =
> >> >>
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> >> >>
> >> > I personally would recommend you never store passwords in $_SESSION.
> >> >
> >> > I don't know how your auth code works, but the way I've always done
> >> > it would
> >> > be to process everything when you his submit, with the password
> >> > being in
> >> > $_POST or $_GET, then after you authenticate the user, drop it and
> >> > don't
> >> > store it with sessions.  If you find you need it to be stored for
> >> > other
> >> > things, I'd suggest rethinking the design/checking you're doing.
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > -Dan Joseph
> >> >
> >> > www.canishosting.com - Plans start @ $1.99/month.
> >> >
> >> > "Build a man a fire, and he will be warm for the rest of the day.
> >> > Light a man on fire, and will be warm for the rest of his life."
> >>
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> >
> 
> If code is getting injected into our apps we're screwed.

Too true *lol*. The database is probably exposed at that point.
Although, if you can see passwords in plaintext, your system is
compromised beyond any fixes you may introduce.

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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

[Robert Cummings]

On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 21:10 +0100, Douglas Temple wrote:
> Once.

.. twice, three times a lady??

> 'Nuff said.

Sorry, not enuff for me... not sure how it applies to the thread.

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Re: [PHP] Google Chrome

[Eric Butera]

On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 4:10 PM, Douglas Temple <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Once.
>
> 'Nuff said.
>

I used to hate it.  After using it for a while though I noticed that
it rendered pages faster than all the other browsers I use.  Too bad
the developer console isn't as nice as firebug though. :)

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