Re: [PHP] Deprecated configure options
Ian M. Evans wrote: Was just upgrading to 5.2.5 and used the same configure line as I used for 5.2.0. Got the following notice: "Notice: Following unknown configure options were used: --enable-pic --with-dom --with-png --with-xml --enable-track-vars --enable-trans-sid --enable-yp --enable-mbstr-enc-trans --enable-dio --enable-mcal --with-jpeg" Safe to assume those were deprecated? You can just run ./configure --help and see for yourself. Some have changed and some seem to have been deprecated. --with-pic --disable-dom --with-png-dir[=DIR] --disable-libxml --disable-xml --with-jpeg-dir[=DIR] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] send form by email with image spam controler
Hi, i would like to allow web site users to fill a form when they request information. the purpose is to have something standardized and later on to archive all those request into database. to avoid spammer, i was thinking to use a code image which change to each page refresh in order to be sure that user is human and not a simple robot :-) after that, all data should be sent by web site (maybe a particular email account or function) to email address [EMAIL PROTECTED] is there a simple way to do that or a better way ? moreover where could i find similar example ? especially about image checking... thx -- Alain Windows XP SP2 PostgreSQL 8.2.4 / MS SQL server 2005 Apache 2.2.4 PHP 5.2.4 C# 2005-2008
Re: [PHP] send form by email with image spam controler
Alain Roger wrote: > Hi, > > i would like to allow web site users to fill a form when they request > information. > the purpose is to have something standardized and later on to archive > all those request into database. > to avoid spammer, i was thinking to use a code image which change to > each page refresh in order to be sure that user is human and not a > simple robot > :-) > after that, all data should be sent by web site (maybe a particular > email account or function) to email address [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > is there a simple way to do that or a better way ? > > moreover where could i find similar example ? especially about image > checking... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captcha http://www.recaptcha.org There are also simpler captchas - text-based for instance: "What is 2 times 10 divided by four"? /Per Jessen, Zürich -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] programming and design fees
--- Per Jessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Lamp Lists wrote: > > > now, I didn't have such a big project "on side" > ever. and I by default > > ALWAY suck in calculations how much time I need > for a project and what > > to charge. I think I need about 120 hrs (3 weeks) > to build this baby > > (without design part). I need your opinion. is it > enough time (yes, I > > know it depends of how fast I program :D Let's > say, average fast :)) > > and what are fees these days for such a project? I > lost track. $75/hr > > is lowest price today or I can't ask more than > $50/hr? > > You can ask whatever you want as long as your > customer thinks it's > reasonable. (not a joke). That's actually part I'm interested the most :D What is reasonable? Is reasonable for sucha project with complex product catalog and ordering system ask $10K? > Given that you're an individual bidding on a single > project, you might > want to consider fixed price instead of time and > materials. I'm not bidding. I did small, simple html web site for them 3 years ago, with 5 pages. Now they want something better, with catalog and admin area. returnig customer :D > > As for estimates wrt time and effort - if those were > available on a > mailing-list based on about 30 lines of project > description, this list > would be full of project managers, all with > desperate needs to estimate > how long takes. :-) > > > /Per Jessen, Zürich > Thanks Per :) > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Generating JavaScript menus on-the-fly
At 3:01 PM -0600 3/7/08, Ken Kixmoeller wrote: Hey - - -- - -- -- I keep a profile of a user's rights and responsibilities in tables. Since this profile defines what a user can do in the system I am designing, I'd like to build a JavaScript menu navigation scheme. I need it to be driven programmatically, because the Admin users can add and remove tasks to the system or to a given user at-will. I already built a similar thing using CSS-only menus, but it just wasn't aesthetically flexible enough. I am exploring other options, but I am wondering if any of you have done something similar and have any samples or advice. Ken Ken: I use php and css to do navigation. The css handles client-side and php does the server-side. If you have links that are available for some, but not others and want to keep them secure/private, then don't go the javascript route -- it's a simple matter to break that. My advice, figure out what you want to present in php and then have php write the css for you. Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Newbie - Undefined Index Variable
At 11:59 AM -0800 3/7/08, revDAVE wrote:
I have this:
page1';}else{print 'page2';} ?>
I will get the error:
Notice: Undefined index: nowtoctype in ...
If the variable has not yet been defined...
Is there a way to check if this var is already defined? ... (and then I can
define it - if not)
This is something I run into often and here is how I solve it.
$action = isset($_GET['action']) ? $_GET['action'] : null;
$action = isset($_POST['action']) ? $_POST['action'] : null;
$action = isset($_SESSION['action']) ? $_SESSION['action'] : null;
If you expect anything to be provided via GET, POST, or SESSION, then
use one of these to initialize it. The null, of course can be
changed to whatever default value you want.
Cheers,
tedd
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Re: [PHP] programming and design fees
At 7:06 AM -0800 3/8/08, Lamp Lists wrote: That's actually part I'm interested the most :D What is reasonable? Is reasonable for sucha project with complex product catalog and ordering system ask $10K? I think that's reasonable, because I've done similar as you described. I had one client who wanted a site like art.com (don't look now, because it's screwed) and I submitted a bid of $25k. The client asked "Isn't that a bit high?" and I relied "They paid $400k for their name -- you think they went cheap for the back-end?" I didn't get the job. I tell clients I charge $50 per hour. Most clients don't mind and hire me. I had one client say "I never pay more than $25 per hour -- you will accept that?" My answer was "Sure, but it will take me twice as long to do anything." The point being that hourly wage doesn't really mean anything. Don't judge the value of your work on the time it takes you, but rather on how well your work works. On most projects, while I make deadlines, I put in many more hours than I bill out. But then again, I love the work. Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] send form by email with image spam controler
At 10:08 AM +0100 3/8/08, Alain Roger wrote: Hi, i would like to allow web site users to fill a form when they request information. the purpose is to have something standardized and later on to archive all those request into database. to avoid spammer, i was thinking to use a code image which change to each page refresh in order to be sure that user is human and not a simple robot :-) after that, all data should be sent by web site (maybe a particular email account or function) to email address [EMAIL PROTECTED] is there a simple way to do that or a better way ? moreover where could i find similar example ? especially about image checking... Here's a few. http://webbytedd.com/aa/assorted-captcha/ BUT, all can be broke by a spammer. There is no solution. So, make it as simple as can be for those who have problems with that sort of thing. Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] programming and design fees
--- tedd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 7:06 AM -0800 3/8/08, Lamp Lists wrote: > > > >That's actually part I'm interested the most :D > What > >is reasonable? Is reasonable for sucha project with > >complex product catalog and ordering system ask > $10K? > > I think that's reasonable, because I've done similar > as you described. > > I had one client who wanted a site like art.com > (don't look now, > because it's screwed) and I submitted a bid of $25k. > The client asked > "Isn't that a bit high?" and I relied "They paid > $400k for their name > -- you think they went cheap for the back-end?" I > didn't get the job. > > I tell clients I charge $50 per hour. Most clients > don't mind and hire me. > > I had one client say "I never pay more than $25 per > hour -- you will > accept that?" My answer was "Sure, but it will take > me twice as long > to do anything." > > The point being that hourly wage doesn't really mean > anything. Don't > judge the value of your work on the time it takes > you, but rather on > how well your work works. > > On most projects, while I make deadlines, I put in > many more hours > than I bill out. But then again, I love the work. > > Cheers, > > tedd I needed to hear this :D :D :D I do not plan to tell the store owner how much hrs I need and what's my rate. as you said, 100hrs x $50/hr or 200hrs x $25/hr - it really doesn't matter. I needed fo myself, to calculate the "worth" of the job. thanks ted. ;) -afan > -- > --- > http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com > http://earthstones.com > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Links hierarchy maintenance
Hi, I'm working on a site that is becoming more and more bigger (containing more links). Now the problem of links maintenance arises. An intuitive idea that i'm trying to do right know is calling php functions that will display every part of the site that is repetitive. For example left side menu and footer. For the left side menu with static HTML and CSS i'm disabling the link to the actual page, like that the user has a visual presentation allowing him to know where he is exaclty in the site. This introduces more difficulty for the function that will display the menu. So i'm wondering if there is some efficient way of modeling and implementing this. All suggestions are welcome, and if some part of the problem is not clear enough please feel free to ask me more questions if necessary. Thanks Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] SOAP PHP 5.2.5 and Outside WSDL's
From your samples below, if what they actually want is that snippet at the bottom, then you don't want to send SOAP. You want to send a REST response, vis, "some arbitrary, use-case-specific XML". In that case, don't use SOAP at all but use SimpleXML instead, then dump that to an XML string and send it. If you mean something else, please clarify. :-) On Wednesday 05 March 2008, Jonathan Pitcher wrote: > I am connecting to a Third Party WSDL that needs me to turn return an Array > of results to them. I do and PHP returns this ... > > > > > > en > xsi:type="xsd:string">50d3c78a0213b3e083ce7b6c7fa760a299798246fb6bbf1dc2dc8 >1 > 12a841454d5bcb9cb752b18e299cd9be84214175b6c971065d8df08b52283408b925dd85412 >8 5a031ca29c39b945989b951e2523594f5c9c0aa7bbfc328c87441830b47cd0 > 1 > > xsi:type="ns3:ArrayOf_tns1_EditConferenceParty"> > > 163 > 99 > > > 163 > 99 > > > > > > > Problem is they need something like: > > > 163 > 99 > > > 163 > 99 > > > I found a good read here that says it deals with the way PHP handles > outputting arrays. > > http://archive.netbsd.se/?ml=soap&a=2006-01&m=1677392 > > Is this truly considered a bug ? If so has it been resolved in the current > releases of PHP ? > > If not does anyone have a simple solution ? I can figure out a way to code > the XML myself and send it but honestly was hoping for a simplier solution > that didn't envolve writing XML by hand. > > Jonathan Pitcher -- Larry Garfield AIM: LOLG42 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 6817012 "If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of every one, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it." -- Thomas Jefferson -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] programming and design fees
At 11:12 AM -0500 3/8/08, Bastien Koert wrote: The hard part i find is getting the client to scope it out correctly. I started a job last year and it was to be a 10-15 page site to capture some information. So I contracted for $1500. Now its a year later, the client has changed his mind numerous times and the scope has explode out over 100 pages, with all sorts of custom interaction (if this happens send this email, if that happens send another). It has become a real pain and I am definitely not making the $75 / hr i initially scoped. But as tedd mentioned, I too love the work and it helps be build pieces for future projects bastien What we charge and do is not normally discussed on this list. In the past people have said that doing so is price fixing and all sort of other negative comments. But, I don't think discussing what's the going rate and how to get business should be prohibited speech. However, I could be wrong. In any event, I have one project at the moment that started out at 25 pages and now exceeds 80 -- and these are not static pages. Every page is dynamic and uses up to 20 database extractions to pull out data as needed. None of the pages are simple. Total cost thus far is in the $5-$10k range. The client said he wanted a simple face-lift for his site, but he did not say that it included numerous expressions. What started as a month project is now almost a year old and continuing in time and cost. The biggest problem I've faced with this client is that he thinks he "knows" html and the answer is using tables and font tags. It's been maddening to try to get him to understand that his perspective is dated and is costing him more to create an inferior site than to do it right. But, I'm making progress in educating him as to what's possible -- and that's the key. Normally, I never do a site for less than $1k and that's a static three page. I used to charge $500 for a 3 page and $50 per month for hosting, but that became a pain so I stopped doing that. Now, I just charge per project. For larger sites ($10k), my design skills are limited - so I recommend hiring a designer for a minimum of $1k per design! So, the costs here in developing a real business site are not trivial. This is not the old "My neighbor's son learned how to do web sites in high school" project but rather a serious means to increase sales. My job is to put it all together to make it work right -- meaning to be consistent with current technologies (i.e., unobtrusive, validates, accessible, and more more) AND for the site to do what the client wants and more. I have been known to hire other programmers if there is something that I don't understand -- you can't know everything, but be careful how you tell your client that. The main point here is that most of the work I do is for clients who make money off the net. Most of it is not creating an Internet billboard but rather developing a vehicle to increase sales. Some of my clients have paid as much as $20k for a single Yellow Pages ad, so they understand that you have to put respectable money into advertising. Plus, the Internet is a much wider audience with much greater sales possibilities. I asked one client "Can you handle an expansion to your sales territory?" That actually killed one deal -- they didn't want to expand. In any event, web sites/applications are more involved than what normally meets the layman's eye. Educating your clients as to what can be can be more important in getting more work than what they think they need. But, that's my perspective. Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Links hierarchy maintenance
At 9:23 AM -0800 3/8/08, Adil Drissi wrote: I'm working on a site that is becoming more and more bigger (containing more links). Now the problem of links maintenance arises. An intuitive idea that i'm trying to do right know is calling php functions that will display every part of the site that is repetitive. For example left side menu and footer. For the left side menu with static HTML and CSS i'm disabling the link to the actual page, like that the user has a visual presentation allowing him to know where he is exaclty in the site. This introduces more difficulty for the function that will display the menu. So i'm wondering if there is some efficient way of modeling and implementing this. All suggestions are welcome, and if some part of the problem is not clear enough please feel free to ask me more questions if necessary. In all of my pages, I use includes. I have one include for the header, one for the footer and one for the navigation, which is usually called by the header. If something changes in navigation, I change one file and it's done throughout the site. Look into includes. Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Generating JavaScript menus on-the-fly
At 1:42 PM -0600 3/8/08, Ken Kixmoeller.com wrote: On Mar 8, 2008, at 9:17 AM, tedd wrote: At 3:01 PM -0600 3/7/08, Ken Kixmoeller wrote: Hey - - -- - -- -- I keep a profile of a user's rights and responsibilities in tables. Since this profile defines what a user can do in the system I am designing, I'd like to build a JavaScript menu navigation scheme. I need it to be driven programmatically, because the Admin users can add and remove tasks to the system or to a given user at-will. I already built a similar thing using CSS-only menus, but it just wasn't aesthetically flexible enough. I am exploring other options, but I am wondering if any of you have done something similar and have any samples or advice. I use php and css to do navigation. The css handles client-side and php does the server-side. If you have links that are available for some, but not others and want to keep them secure/private, then don't go the javascript route -- it's a simple matter to break that. My advice, figure out what you want to present in php and then have php write the css for you. Hi, tedd --- - - - Thank you for the advice. I guess I'd better try the CSS route again. I think I may do a combination of CSS and the technique I'm using now. I appreciate the advice you gave on what is breakable, too. Just to amplify -- the tasks that are available to a user are in a session array. These are created on login (or session init. for a guest user) and only those tasks to which the user has access appear in the array -- links are not just disabled. Ken Ken: But regardless of the scheme, if you rely upon the user-side of things, then it's insecure. Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Generating JavaScript menus on-the-fly
On Mar 8, 2008, at 9:17 AM, tedd wrote: At 3:01 PM -0600 3/7/08, Ken Kixmoeller wrote: Hey - - -- - -- -- I keep a profile of a user's rights and responsibilities in tables. Since this profile defines what a user can do in the system I am designing, I'd like to build a JavaScript menu navigation scheme. I need it to be driven programmatically, because the Admin users can add and remove tasks to the system or to a given user at-will. I already built a similar thing using CSS-only menus, but it just wasn't aesthetically flexible enough. I am exploring other options, but I am wondering if any of you have done something similar and have any samples or advice. I use php and css to do navigation. The css handles client-side and php does the server-side. If you have links that are available for some, but not others and want to keep them secure/private, then don't go the javascript route -- it's a simple matter to break that. My advice, figure out what you want to present in php and then have php write the css for you. Hi, tedd --- - - - Thank you for the advice. I guess I'd better try the CSS route again. I think I may do a combination of CSS and the technique I'm using now. I appreciate the advice you gave on what is breakable, too. Just to amplify -- the tasks that are available to a user are in a session array. These are created on login (or session init. for a guest user) and only those tasks to which the user has access appear in the array -- links are not just disabled. Ken -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Links hierarchy maintenance
Hi, Yes this is the correct way to do things. As i said, i'm using different styles for the menus links indicating the current page. Suppose my page has one horiontal menu at the top and one vertical menu at the left. In this case, one element of the horizontal menu and one from the vertical menu will be displayed differently from the other elements. So the function that will be inluded will be more complex to handle this. I was just wondering, how other poeple are dealing with that. Of course it is feasable, but i want to do it the best way. I hope the problem i posted is clearer now --- tedd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 9:23 AM -0800 3/8/08, Adil Drissi wrote: > >I'm working on a site that is becoming more and > more > >bigger (containing more links). Now the problem of > >links maintenance arises. An intuitive idea that > i'm > >trying to do right know is calling php functions > that > >will display every part of the site that is > >repetitive. For example left side menu and footer. > For > >the left side menu with static HTML and CSS i'm > >disabling the link to the actual page, like that > the > >user has a visual presentation allowing him to know > >where he is exaclty in the site. This introduces > more > >difficulty for the function that will display the > >menu. So i'm wondering if there is some efficient > way > >of modeling and implementing this. > > > >All suggestions are welcome, and if some part of > the > >problem is not clear enough please feel free to ask > me > >more questions if necessary. > > In all of my pages, I use includes. I have one > include for the > header, one for the footer and one for the > navigation, which is > usually called by the header. > > If something changes in navigation, I change one > file and it's done > throughout the site. > > Look into includes. > > Cheers, > > tedd > > -- > --- > http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com > http://earthstones.com > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] include() and current working directory
Hi,
I'm using include to display a html file from a different directory to
the current working directory.
This page displays, but is missing all the CSS formating.
I'm assuming this is because it can't find the CSS because it's in the
different directory to the CWD.
So, the easy way out is to move the CSS, but I've got heaps of these,
and it makes it really messy.
The PHP looks like this:
include("xxx/index.htm");
the css is saved in the xxx folder.
I'm open to any suggestions, ideas?
Many thanks
Matt
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[PHP] Whats faster? simplexml_load_string or simplexml_load_file?
I was wondering this because at the moment using simplexml_load_file makes my script go at about 2 seconds per page load, in a loop. Then I created a cache system so it doesn't keep loading the xml file, but I'm wondering if theres a faster way to load xml QUICKER, is it possible with "file_get_contents" and "simplexml_load_string" ? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] include() and current working directory
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I'm using include to display a html file from a different directory to
the current working directory.
This page displays, but is missing all the CSS formating.
I'm assuming this is because it can't find the CSS because it's in the
different directory to the CWD.
So, the easy way out is to move the CSS, but I've got heaps of these,
and it makes it really messy.
The PHP looks like this:
include("xxx/index.htm");
the css is saved in the xxx folder.
I'm open to any suggestions, ideas?
Many thanks
Matt
I think your problem has to do with the difference between relative and
absolute URL references.
Do some googling about those and I think you might get your answer. If
you do not, and since this really has nothing to do with PHP, you can
email off list and I can assist you with the problem.
Thanks
Jim Lucas
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