SELECT Query taking 200 ms on PostgreSQL compared to 4 ms on Oracle after migration.

2021-04-03 Thread aditya desai
Hi,
We migrated our Oracle Databases to PostgreSQL. One of the simple select
query that takes 4 ms on Oracle is taking around 200 ms on PostgreSQL.
Could you please advise. Please find query and query plans below. Gather
cost seems high. Will increasing max_parallel_worker_per_gather help?

explain analyse SELECT bom.address_key dom2137,bom.address_type_key
dom1727,bom.start_date dom1077,bom.end_date dom828,bom.address_status_key
dom1955,bom.address_role_key dom1711,bom.delivery_point_created
dom2362,bom.postcode dom873,bom.postcode_name dom1390,bom.street_name
dom1186,bom.premises_number_1 dom1777,bom.premises_number_2
dom1778,bom.premises_letter_1 dom1784,bom.premises_letter_2
dom1785,bom.premises_separator dom1962,bom.stairway dom892,bom.po_box
dom653,bom.apartment_number dom1732,bom.apartment_letter
dom1739,bom.street_key dom1097,bom.address_use_key dom1609,bom.language_key
dom1272,bom.address_family_id dom1796,bom.cur_address_key
dom2566,bom.created_by dom1052,bom.modified_by dom1158,bom.creation_time
dom1392,bom.modification_time dom1813 FROM DEPT.address dom WHERE
address_key = 6113763

[
{
"Plan": {
"Node Type": "Gather",
"Parallel Aware": false,
"Actual Rows": 1,
"Actual Loops": 1,
"Workers Planned": 1,
"Workers Launched": 1,
"Single Copy": true,
"Plans": [
{
"Node Type": "Index Scan",
"Parent Relationship": "Outer",
"Parallel Aware": false,
"Scan Direction": "Forward",
"Index Name": "address1_i7",
"Relation Name": "address",
"Alias": "dom",
"Actual Rows": 1,
"Actual Loops": 1,
"Index Cond": "(address_key = 6113763)",
"Rows Removed by Index Recheck": 0
}
]
},
"Triggers": []
}
]

"Gather (cost=1000.43..1002.75 rows=1 width=127) (actual
time=174.318..198.539 rows=1 loops=1)"
" Workers Planned: 1"
" Workers Launched: 1"
" Single Copy: true"
" -> Index Scan using address1_i7 on address1 dom (cost=0.43..2.65 rows=1
width=127) (actual time=0.125..0.125 rows=1 loops=1)"
" Index Cond: (address_key = 6113763)"
"Planning Time: 0.221 ms"
"Execution Time: 198.601 ms"



Regards,
Aditya.


Re: SELECT Query taking 200 ms on PostgreSQL compared to 4 ms on Oracle after migration.

2021-04-03 Thread Bharath Rupireddy
On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 7:08 PM aditya desai  wrote:
>
> Hi,
> We migrated our Oracle Databases to PostgreSQL. One of the simple select 
> query that takes 4 ms on Oracle is taking around 200 ms on PostgreSQL. Could 
> you please advise. Please find query and query plans below. Gather cost seems 
> high. Will increasing max_parallel_worker_per_gather help?

No it doesn't. For small tables, parallelism might not help since it
doesn't come for free. Try setting max_parallel_worker_per_gather to 0
i.e. without parallel query.

With Regards,
Bharath Rupireddy.
EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com




Re: SELECT Query taking 200 ms on PostgreSQL compared to 4 ms on Oracle after migration.

2021-04-03 Thread Pavel Stehule
so 3. 4. 2021 v 15:38 odesílatel aditya desai  napsal:

> Hi,
> We migrated our Oracle Databases to PostgreSQL. One of the simple select
> query that takes 4 ms on Oracle is taking around 200 ms on PostgreSQL.
> Could you please advise. Please find query and query plans below. Gather
> cost seems high. Will increasing max_parallel_worker_per_gather help?
>
> explain analyse SELECT bom.address_key dom2137,bom.address_type_key
> dom1727,bom.start_date dom1077,bom.end_date dom828,bom.address_status_key
> dom1955,bom.address_role_key dom1711,bom.delivery_point_created
> dom2362,bom.postcode dom873,bom.postcode_name dom1390,bom.street_name
> dom1186,bom.premises_number_1 dom1777,bom.premises_number_2
> dom1778,bom.premises_letter_1 dom1784,bom.premises_letter_2
> dom1785,bom.premises_separator dom1962,bom.stairway dom892,bom.po_box
> dom653,bom.apartment_number dom1732,bom.apartment_letter
> dom1739,bom.street_key dom1097,bom.address_use_key dom1609,bom.language_key
> dom1272,bom.address_family_id dom1796,bom.cur_address_key
> dom2566,bom.created_by dom1052,bom.modified_by dom1158,bom.creation_time
> dom1392,bom.modification_time dom1813 FROM DEPT.address dom WHERE
> address_key = 6113763
>
> [
> {
> "Plan": {
> "Node Type": "Gather",
> "Parallel Aware": false,
> "Actual Rows": 1,
> "Actual Loops": 1,
> "Workers Planned": 1,
> "Workers Launched": 1,
> "Single Copy": true,
> "Plans": [
> {
> "Node Type": "Index Scan",
> "Parent Relationship": "Outer",
> "Parallel Aware": false,
> "Scan Direction": "Forward",
> "Index Name": "address1_i7",
> "Relation Name": "address",
> "Alias": "dom",
> "Actual Rows": 1,
> "Actual Loops": 1,
> "Index Cond": "(address_key = 6113763)",
> "Rows Removed by Index Recheck": 0
> }
> ]
> },
> "Triggers": []
> }
> ]
>
> "Gather (cost=1000.43..1002.75 rows=1 width=127) (actual
> time=174.318..198.539 rows=1 loops=1)"
> " Workers Planned: 1"
> " Workers Launched: 1"
> " Single Copy: true"
> " -> Index Scan using address1_i7 on address1 dom (cost=0.43..2.65 rows=1
> width=127) (actual time=0.125..0.125 rows=1 loops=1)"
> " Index Cond: (address_key = 6113763)"
> "Planning Time: 0.221 ms"
> "Execution Time: 198.601 ms"
>

You should have broken configuration - there is not any reason to start
parallelism -  probably some option in postgresql.conf has very bad value.
Second - it's crazy to see 200 ms just on interprocess communication -
maybe your CPU is overutilized.

Regards

Pavel




>
>
> Regards,
> Aditya.
>


Re: SELECT Query taking 200 ms on PostgreSQL compared to 4 ms on Oracle after migration.

2021-04-03 Thread Michael Lewis
It seems like something is missing. Is this table partitioned? How long ago
was migration done? Has vacuum freeze and analyze of tables been done? Was
index created after populating data or reindexed after perhaps? What
version are you using?


Re: SELECT Query taking 200 ms on PostgreSQL compared to 4 ms on Oracle after migration.

2021-04-03 Thread Justin Pryzby
On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 04:08:01PM +0200, Pavel Stehule wrote:
> so 3. 4. 2021 v 15:38 odesílatel aditya desai  napsal:
> > "Gather (cost=1000.43..1002.75 rows=1 width=127) (actual
> > time=174.318..198.539 rows=1 loops=1)"
> > " Workers Planned: 1"
> > " Workers Launched: 1"
> > " Single Copy: true"
> > " -> Index Scan using address1_i7 on address1 dom (cost=0.43..2.65 rows=1
> > width=127) (actual time=0.125..0.125 rows=1 loops=1)"
> > " Index Cond: (address_key = 6113763)"
> > "Planning Time: 0.221 ms"
> > "Execution Time: 198.601 ms"
> 
> You should have broken configuration - there is not any reason to start
> parallelism -  probably some option in postgresql.conf has very bad value.
> Second - it's crazy to see 200 ms just on interprocess communication -
> maybe your CPU is overutilized.

It seems like force_parallel_mode is set, which is for debugging and not for
"forcing things to go faster".  Maybe we should rename the parameter, like
parallel_mode_testing=on.

http://rhaas.blogspot.com/2018/06/using-forceparallelmode-correctly.html

-- 
Justin




Re: SELECT Query taking 200 ms on PostgreSQL compared to 4 ms on Oracle after migration.

2021-04-03 Thread aditya desai
Hi Michael,
Thanks for your response.
Is this table partitioned? - No
How long ago was migration done? - 27th March 2021
Has vacuum freeze and analyze of tables been done? - We ran vacuum analyze.
 Was index created after populating data or reindexed after perhaps? -
Index was created after data load and reindex was executed on all tables
yesterday.
 Version is PostgreSQL-11

Regards,
Aditya.


On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 7:40 PM Michael Lewis  wrote:

> It seems like something is missing. Is this table partitioned? How long
> ago was migration done? Has vacuum freeze and analyze of tables been done?
> Was index created after populating data or reindexed after perhaps? What
> version are you using?
>


Re: SELECT Query taking 200 ms on PostgreSQL compared to 4 ms on Oracle after migration.

2021-04-03 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Sat, Apr  3, 2021 at 08:29:22PM +0530, aditya desai wrote:
> Hi Michael,
> Thanks for your response.
> Is this table partitioned? - No
> How long ago was migration done? - 27th March 2021
> Has vacuum freeze and analyze of tables been done? - We ran vacuum analyze.
>  Was index created after populating data or reindexed after perhaps? - Index
> was created after data load and reindex was executed on all tables yesterday.
>  Version is PostgreSQL-11

FYI, the output of these queries will show u what changes have been made
to the configuration file:

SELECT version();

SELECT name, current_setting(name), source
FROM pg_settings
WHERE source NOT IN ('default', 'override');

-- 
  Bruce Momjian  https://momjian.us
  EDB  https://enterprisedb.com

  If only the physical world exists, free will is an illusion.





Re: SELECT Query taking 200 ms on PostgreSQL compared to 4 ms on Oracle after migration.

2021-04-03 Thread aditya desai
Hi Justin,
Yes, force_parallel_mode is on. Should we set it off?

Regards,
Aditya.

On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 7:46 PM Justin Pryzby  wrote:

> On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 04:08:01PM +0200, Pavel Stehule wrote:
> > so 3. 4. 2021 v 15:38 odesílatel aditya desai 
> napsal:
> > > "Gather (cost=1000.43..1002.75 rows=1 width=127) (actual
> > > time=174.318..198.539 rows=1 loops=1)"
> > > " Workers Planned: 1"
> > > " Workers Launched: 1"
> > > " Single Copy: true"
> > > " -> Index Scan using address1_i7 on address1 dom (cost=0.43..2.65
> rows=1
> > > width=127) (actual time=0.125..0.125 rows=1 loops=1)"
> > > " Index Cond: (address_key = 6113763)"
> > > "Planning Time: 0.221 ms"
> > > "Execution Time: 198.601 ms"
> >
> > You should have broken configuration - there is not any reason to start
> > parallelism -  probably some option in postgresql.conf has very bad
> value.
> > Second - it's crazy to see 200 ms just on interprocess communication -
> > maybe your CPU is overutilized.
>
> It seems like force_parallel_mode is set, which is for debugging and not
> for
> "forcing things to go faster".  Maybe we should rename the parameter, like
> parallel_mode_testing=on.
>
> http://rhaas.blogspot.com/2018/06/using-forceparallelmode-correctly.html
>
> --
> Justin
>


Re: SELECT Query taking 200 ms on PostgreSQL compared to 4 ms on Oracle after migration.

2021-04-03 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Sat, Apr  3, 2021 at 08:38:18PM +0530, aditya desai wrote:
> Hi Justin,
> Yes, force_parallel_mode is on. Should we set it off?

Yes.  I bet someone set it without reading our docs:


https://www.postgresql.org/docs/13/runtime-config-query.html#RUNTIME-CONFIG-QUERY-OTHER

--> Allows the use of parallel queries for testing purposes even in cases
--> where no performance benefit is expected.

We might need to clarify this sentence to be clearer it is _only_ for
testing.  Also, I suggest you review _all_ changes that have been made
to the server since I am worried other unwise changes might also have
been made.

---

> 
> Regards,
> Aditya.
> 
> On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 7:46 PM Justin Pryzby  wrote:
> 
> On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 04:08:01PM +0200, Pavel Stehule wrote:
> > so 3. 4. 2021 v 15:38 odesílatel aditya desai 
> napsal:
> > > "Gather (cost=1000.43..1002.75 rows=1 width=127) (actual
> > > time=174.318..198.539 rows=1 loops=1)"
> > > " Workers Planned: 1"
> > > " Workers Launched: 1"
> > > " Single Copy: true"
> > > " -> Index Scan using address1_i7 on address1 dom (cost=0.43..2.65 
> rows
> =1
> > > width=127) (actual time=0.125..0.125 rows=1 loops=1)"
> > > " Index Cond: (address_key = 6113763)"
> > > "Planning Time: 0.221 ms"
> > > "Execution Time: 198.601 ms"
> >
> > You should have broken configuration - there is not any reason to start
> > parallelism -  probably some option in postgresql.conf has very bad
> value.
> > Second - it's crazy to see 200 ms just on interprocess communication -
> > maybe your CPU is overutilized.
> 
> It seems like force_parallel_mode is set, which is for debugging and not
> for
> "forcing things to go faster".  Maybe we should rename the parameter, like
> parallel_mode_testing=on.
> 
> http://rhaas.blogspot.com/2018/06/using-forceparallelmode-correctly.html
> 
> --
> Justin
> 

-- 
  Bruce Momjian  https://momjian.us
  EDB  https://enterprisedb.com

  If only the physical world exists, free will is an illusion.





Re: SELECT Query taking 200 ms on PostgreSQL compared to 4 ms on Oracle after migration.

2021-04-03 Thread aditya desai
Thanks Bruce!! Will set it off and retry.

On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 8:42 PM Bruce Momjian  wrote:

> On Sat, Apr  3, 2021 at 08:38:18PM +0530, aditya desai wrote:
> > Hi Justin,
> > Yes, force_parallel_mode is on. Should we set it off?
>
> Yes.  I bet someone set it without reading our docs:
>
>
> https://www.postgresql.org/docs/13/runtime-config-query.html#RUNTIME-CONFIG-QUERY-OTHER
>
> --> Allows the use of parallel queries for testing purposes even in
> cases
> --> where no performance benefit is expected.
>
> We might need to clarify this sentence to be clearer it is _only_ for
> testing.  Also, I suggest you review _all_ changes that have been made
> to the server since I am worried other unwise changes might also have
> been made.
>
> ---
>
> >
> > Regards,
> > Aditya.
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 7:46 PM Justin Pryzby 
> wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 04:08:01PM +0200, Pavel Stehule wrote:
> > > so 3. 4. 2021 v 15:38 odesílatel aditya desai 
> > napsal:
> > > > "Gather (cost=1000.43..1002.75 rows=1 width=127) (actual
> > > > time=174.318..198.539 rows=1 loops=1)"
> > > > " Workers Planned: 1"
> > > > " Workers Launched: 1"
> > > > " Single Copy: true"
> > > > " -> Index Scan using address1_i7 on address1 dom
> (cost=0.43..2.65 rows
> > =1
> > > > width=127) (actual time=0.125..0.125 rows=1 loops=1)"
> > > > " Index Cond: (address_key = 6113763)"
> > > > "Planning Time: 0.221 ms"
> > > > "Execution Time: 198.601 ms"
> > >
> > > You should have broken configuration - there is not any reason to
> start
> > > parallelism -  probably some option in postgresql.conf has very bad
> > value.
> > > Second - it's crazy to see 200 ms just on interprocess
> communication -
> > > maybe your CPU is overutilized.
> >
> > It seems like force_parallel_mode is set, which is for debugging and
> not
> > for
> > "forcing things to go faster".  Maybe we should rename the
> parameter, like
> > parallel_mode_testing=on.
> >
> >
> http://rhaas.blogspot.com/2018/06/using-forceparallelmode-correctly.html
> >
> > --
> > Justin
> >
>
> --
>   Bruce Momjian  https://momjian.us
>   EDB  https://enterprisedb.com
>
>   If only the physical world exists, free will is an illusion.
>
>


Re: SELECT Query taking 200 ms on PostgreSQL compared to 4 ms on Oracle after migration.

2021-04-03 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Sat, Apr  3, 2021 at 11:12:01AM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> On Sat, Apr  3, 2021 at 08:38:18PM +0530, aditya desai wrote:
> > Hi Justin,
> > Yes, force_parallel_mode is on. Should we set it off?
> 
> Yes.  I bet someone set it without reading our docs:
> 
>   
> https://www.postgresql.org/docs/13/runtime-config-query.html#RUNTIME-CONFIG-QUERY-OTHER
> 
> -->   Allows the use of parallel queries for testing purposes even in cases
> -->   where no performance benefit is expected.
> 
> We might need to clarify this sentence to be clearer it is _only_ for
> testing.  Also, I suggest you review _all_ changes that have been made
> to the server since I am worried other unwise changes might also have
> been made.

This brings up an issue we see occasionally.  You can either leave
everything as default, get advice on which defaults to change, or study
each setting and then change defaults.  Changing defaults without study
often leads to poor configurations, as we are seeing here.

The lucky thing is that you noticed a slow query and found the
misconfiguration, but I am sure there are many servers where
misconfiguration is never detected.  I wish I knew how to improve this
situation, but user education seems to be all we can do.

-- 
  Bruce Momjian  https://momjian.us
  EDB  https://enterprisedb.com

  If only the physical world exists, free will is an illusion.





Re: SELECT Query taking 200 ms on PostgreSQL compared to 4 ms on Oracle after migration.

2021-04-03 Thread aditya desai
adding the group.

 aad_log_min_messages  | warning
  | configuration file
 application_name  | psql
   | client
 archive_command   |
c:\postgres\bin\xlogcopy\xlogcopy.exe archive blob "%f" "%p" |
configuration file
 archive_mode  | on
   | configuration file
 archive_timeout   | 15min
  | configuration file
 authentication_timeout| 30s
  | configuration file
 autovacuum_analyze_scale_factor   | 0.05
   | configuration file
 autovacuum_naptime| 15s
  | configuration file
 autovacuum_vacuum_scale_factor| 0.05
   | configuration file
 bgwriter_delay| 20ms
   | configuration file
 bgwriter_flush_after  | 512kB
  | configuration file
 bgwriter_lru_maxpages | 100
  | configuration file
 checkpoint_completion_target  | 0.9
  | configuration file
 checkpoint_flush_after| 256kB
  | configuration file
 checkpoint_timeout| 5min
   | configuration file
 client_encoding   | UTF8
   | client
 connection_ID |
5b59f092-444c-49df-b5d6-a7a0028a7855 | client
 connection_PeerIP |
fd40:4d4a:11:5067:6d11:500:a07:5144  | client
 connection_Vnet   | on
   | client
 constraint_exclusion  | partition
  | configuration file
 data_sync_retry   | on
   | configuration file
 DateStyle | ISO, MDY
   | configuration file
 default_text_search_config| pg_catalog.english
   | configuration file
 dynamic_shared_memory_type| windows
  | configuration file
 effective_cache_size  | 160GB
  | configuration file
 enable_seqscan| off
  | configuration file
 force_parallel_mode   | off
  | configuration file
 from_collapse_limit   | 15
   | configuration file
 full_page_writes  | off
  | configuration file
 hot_standby   | on
   | configuration file
 hot_standby_feedback  | on
   | configuration file
 join_collapse_limit   | 15
   | configuration file
 lc_messages   | English_United States.1252
   | configuration file
 lc_monetary   | English_United States.1252
   | configuration file
 lc_numeric| English_United States.1252
   | configuration file
 lc_time   | English_United States.1252
   | configuration file
 listen_addresses  | *
  | configuration file
 log_checkpoints   | on
   | configuration file
 log_connections   | on
   | configuration file
 log_destination   | stderr
   | configuration file
 log_file_mode | 0640
   | configuration file
 log_line_prefix   | %t-%c-
   | configuration file
 log_min_messages_internal | info
   | configuration file
 log_rotation_age  | 1h
   | configuration file
 log_rotation_size | 100MB
  | configuration file
 log_timezone  | UTC
  | configuration file
 logging_collector | on
   | configuration file
 maintenance_work_mem  | 1GB
  | configuration file
 max_connections   | 1900
   | configuration file
 max_parallel_workers_per_gather   | 16
   | configuration file
 max_replication_slots | 10
   | configuration file
 max_stack_depth   | 2MB
  | environment vari

Re: SELECT Query taking 200 ms on PostgreSQL compared to 4 ms on Oracle after migration.

2021-04-03 Thread aditya desai
I will gather all information and get back to you

On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 9:00 PM Pavel Stehule 
wrote:

>
>
> so 3. 4. 2021 v 17:15 odesílatel aditya desai  napsal:
>
>> Hi Pavel,
>> Thanks for response. Please see below.
>> work_mem=16MB
>> maintenance_work_mem=1GB
>> effective_cache_size=160GB
>> shared_buffers=64GB
>> force_parallel_mode=ON
>>
>
> force_parallel_mode is very bad idea. efective_cache_size=160GB can be too
> much too. work_mem 16 MB is maybe too low. The configuration looks a little
> bit chaotic :)
>
> How much has RAM your server? How much CPU cores are there? What is
> max_connections?
>
> Regards
>
> Pavel
>
>
>
>> Regards,
>> Aditya.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 7:38 PM Pavel Stehule 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> so 3. 4. 2021 v 15:38 odesílatel aditya desai 
>>> napsal:
>>>
 Hi,
 We migrated our Oracle Databases to PostgreSQL. One of the simple
 select query that takes 4 ms on Oracle is taking around 200 ms on
 PostgreSQL. Could you please advise. Please find query and query plans
 below. Gather cost seems high. Will increasing
 max_parallel_worker_per_gather help?

 explain analyse SELECT bom.address_key dom2137,bom.address_type_key
 dom1727,bom.start_date dom1077,bom.end_date dom828,bom.address_status_key
 dom1955,bom.address_role_key dom1711,bom.delivery_point_created
 dom2362,bom.postcode dom873,bom.postcode_name dom1390,bom.street_name
 dom1186,bom.premises_number_1 dom1777,bom.premises_number_2
 dom1778,bom.premises_letter_1 dom1784,bom.premises_letter_2
 dom1785,bom.premises_separator dom1962,bom.stairway dom892,bom.po_box
 dom653,bom.apartment_number dom1732,bom.apartment_letter
 dom1739,bom.street_key dom1097,bom.address_use_key dom1609,bom.language_key
 dom1272,bom.address_family_id dom1796,bom.cur_address_key
 dom2566,bom.created_by dom1052,bom.modified_by dom1158,bom.creation_time
 dom1392,bom.modification_time dom1813 FROM DEPT.address dom WHERE
 address_key = 6113763

 [
 {
 "Plan": {
 "Node Type": "Gather",
 "Parallel Aware": false,
 "Actual Rows": 1,
 "Actual Loops": 1,
 "Workers Planned": 1,
 "Workers Launched": 1,
 "Single Copy": true,
 "Plans": [
 {
 "Node Type": "Index Scan",
 "Parent Relationship": "Outer",
 "Parallel Aware": false,
 "Scan Direction": "Forward",
 "Index Name": "address1_i7",
 "Relation Name": "address",
 "Alias": "dom",
 "Actual Rows": 1,
 "Actual Loops": 1,
 "Index Cond": "(address_key = 6113763)",
 "Rows Removed by Index Recheck": 0
 }
 ]
 },
 "Triggers": []
 }
 ]

 "Gather (cost=1000.43..1002.75 rows=1 width=127) (actual
 time=174.318..198.539 rows=1 loops=1)"
 " Workers Planned: 1"
 " Workers Launched: 1"
 " Single Copy: true"
 " -> Index Scan using address1_i7 on address1 dom (cost=0.43..2.65
 rows=1 width=127) (actual time=0.125..0.125 rows=1 loops=1)"
 " Index Cond: (address_key = 6113763)"
 "Planning Time: 0.221 ms"
 "Execution Time: 198.601 ms"

>>>
>>> You should have broken configuration - there is not any reason to start
>>> parallelism -  probably some option in postgresql.conf has very bad value.
>>> Second - it's crazy to see 200 ms just on interprocess communication -
>>> maybe your CPU is overutilized.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Pavel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>


 Regards,
 Aditya.

>>>


Re: SELECT Query taking 200 ms on PostgreSQL compared to 4 ms on Oracle after migration.

2021-04-03 Thread Pavel Stehule
so 3. 4. 2021 v 17:30 odesílatel aditya desai  napsal:

> adding the group.
>
>  aad_log_min_messages  | warning
> | configuration file
>  application_name  | psql
>| client
>  archive_command   |
> c:\postgres\bin\xlogcopy\xlogcopy.exe archive blob "%f" "%p" |
> configuration file
>  archive_mode  | on
>| configuration file
>  archive_timeout   | 15min
> | configuration file
>  authentication_timeout| 30s
> | configuration file
>  autovacuum_analyze_scale_factor   | 0.05
>| configuration file
>  autovacuum_naptime| 15s
> | configuration file
>  autovacuum_vacuum_scale_factor| 0.05
>| configuration file
>  bgwriter_delay| 20ms
>| configuration file
>  bgwriter_flush_after  | 512kB
> | configuration file
>  bgwriter_lru_maxpages | 100
> | configuration file
>  checkpoint_completion_target  | 0.9
> | configuration file
>  checkpoint_flush_after| 256kB
> | configuration file
>  checkpoint_timeout| 5min
>| configuration file
>  client_encoding   | UTF8
>| client
>  connection_ID |
> 5b59f092-444c-49df-b5d6-a7a0028a7855 | client
>  connection_PeerIP |
> fd40:4d4a:11:5067:6d11:500:a07:5144  | client
>  connection_Vnet   | on
>| client
>  constraint_exclusion  | partition
> | configuration file
>  data_sync_retry   | on
>| configuration file
>  DateStyle | ISO, MDY
>| configuration file
>  default_text_search_config| pg_catalog.english
>| configuration file
>  dynamic_shared_memory_type| windows
> | configuration file
>  effective_cache_size  | 160GB
> | configuration file
>  enable_seqscan| off
> | configuration file
>  force_parallel_mode   | off
> | configuration file
>  from_collapse_limit   | 15
>| configuration file
>  full_page_writes  | off
> | configuration file
>  hot_standby   | on
>| configuration file
>  hot_standby_feedback  | on
>| configuration file
>  join_collapse_limit   | 15
>| configuration file
>  lc_messages   | English_United States.1252
>| configuration file
>  lc_monetary   | English_United States.1252
>| configuration file
>  lc_numeric| English_United States.1252
>| configuration file
>  lc_time   | English_United States.1252
>| configuration file
>  listen_addresses  | *
> | configuration file
>  log_checkpoints   | on
>| configuration file
>  log_connections   | on
>| configuration file
>  log_destination   | stderr
>| configuration file
>  log_file_mode | 0640
>| configuration file
>  log_line_prefix   | %t-%c-
>| configuration file
>  log_min_messages_internal | info
>| configuration file
>  log_rotation_age  | 1h
>| configuration file
>  log_rotation_size | 100MB
> | configuration file
>  log_timezone  | UTC
> | configuration file
>  logging_collector | on
>| configuration file
>  maintenance_work_mem  | 1GB
> | configuration file
>  max_connections   | 1900
>|

Re: SELECT Query taking 200 ms on PostgreSQL compared to 4 ms on Oracle after migration.

2021-04-03 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Sat, Apr  3, 2021 at 09:00:24PM +0530, aditya desai wrote:
> adding the group.

Perfect.  That is a lot of non-default settings, so I would be concerned
there are other misconfigurations in there --- the group here might have
some tips.

>  aad_log_min_messages                  | warning                              
>  
>                       | configuration file

The above is not a PG config variable.

>  connection_ID                         | 5b59f092-444c-49df-b5d6-a7a0028a7855 
>                        | client
>  connection_PeerIP                     | fd40:4d4a:11:5067:6d11:500:a07:5144  
>  
>                       | client
>  connection_Vnet                       | on                                   

Uh, these are not a PG settings.  You need to show us the output of
version() because this is not standard Postgres.  A quick search
suggests this is a Microsoft version of Postgres.  I will stop
commenting.

-- 
  Bruce Momjian  https://momjian.us
  EDB  https://enterprisedb.com

  If only the physical world exists, free will is an illusion.





Re: SELECT Query taking 200 ms on PostgreSQL compared to 4 ms on Oracle after migration.

2021-04-03 Thread Tom Lane
Bruce Momjian  writes:
> On Sat, Apr  3, 2021 at 08:38:18PM +0530, aditya desai wrote:
>> Yes, force_parallel_mode is on. Should we set it off?

> Yes.  I bet someone set it without reading our docs:

>   
> https://www.postgresql.org/docs/13/runtime-config-query.html#RUNTIME-CONFIG-QUERY-OTHER

> -->   Allows the use of parallel queries for testing purposes even in cases
> -->   where no performance benefit is expected.

> We might need to clarify this sentence to be clearer it is _only_ for
> testing.

I wonder why it is listed under planner options at all, and not under
developer options.

regards, tom lane




Re: SELECT Query taking 200 ms on PostgreSQL compared to 4 ms on Oracle after migration.

2021-04-03 Thread Justin Pryzby
On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 11:39:19AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> Bruce Momjian  writes:
> > On Sat, Apr  3, 2021 at 08:38:18PM +0530, aditya desai wrote:
> >> Yes, force_parallel_mode is on. Should we set it off?
> 
> > Yes.  I bet someone set it without reading our docs:
> 
> > 
> > https://www.postgresql.org/docs/13/runtime-config-query.html#RUNTIME-CONFIG-QUERY-OTHER
> 
> > --> Allows the use of parallel queries for testing purposes even in cases
> > --> where no performance benefit is expected.
> 
> > We might need to clarify this sentence to be clearer it is _only_ for
> > testing.
> 
> I wonder why it is listed under planner options at all, and not under
> developer options.

Because it's there to help DBAs catch errors in functions incorrectly marked as
parallel safe.

-- 
Justin




Re: SELECT Query taking 200 ms on PostgreSQL compared to 4 ms on Oracle after migration.

2021-04-03 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Sat, Apr  3, 2021 at 11:39:19AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> Bruce Momjian  writes:
> > On Sat, Apr  3, 2021 at 08:38:18PM +0530, aditya desai wrote:
> >> Yes, force_parallel_mode is on. Should we set it off?
> 
> > Yes.  I bet someone set it without reading our docs:
> 
> > 
> > https://www.postgresql.org/docs/13/runtime-config-query.html#RUNTIME-CONFIG-QUERY-OTHER
> 
> > --> Allows the use of parallel queries for testing purposes even in cases
> > --> where no performance benefit is expected.
> 
> > We might need to clarify this sentence to be clearer it is _only_ for
> > testing.
> 
> I wonder why it is listed under planner options at all, and not under
> developer options.

I was kind of surprised by that myself since I was working on a blog
entry about from_collapse_limit and join_collapse_limit.  I think moving
it makes sense.

-- 
  Bruce Momjian  https://momjian.us
  EDB  https://enterprisedb.com

  If only the physical world exists, free will is an illusion.





Re: SELECT Query taking 200 ms on PostgreSQL compared to 4 ms on Oracle after migration.

2021-04-03 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Sat, Apr  3, 2021 at 10:41:14AM -0500, Justin Pryzby wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 11:39:19AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> > Bruce Momjian  writes:
> > > On Sat, Apr  3, 2021 at 08:38:18PM +0530, aditya desai wrote:
> > >> Yes, force_parallel_mode is on. Should we set it off?
> > 
> > > Yes.  I bet someone set it without reading our docs:
> > 
> > >   
> > > https://www.postgresql.org/docs/13/runtime-config-query.html#RUNTIME-CONFIG-QUERY-OTHER
> > 
> > > -->   Allows the use of parallel queries for testing purposes even in 
> > > cases
> > > -->   where no performance benefit is expected.
> > 
> > > We might need to clarify this sentence to be clearer it is _only_ for
> > > testing.
> > 
> > I wonder why it is listed under planner options at all, and not under
> > developer options.
> 
> Because it's there to help DBAs catch errors in functions incorrectly marked 
> as
> parallel safe.

Uh, isn't that developer/debugging?

-- 
  Bruce Momjian  https://momjian.us
  EDB  https://enterprisedb.com

  If only the physical world exists, free will is an illusion.





Re: SELECT Query taking 200 ms on PostgreSQL compared to 4 ms on Oracle after migration.

2021-04-03 Thread aditya desai
Thanks Justin. Will review all parameters and get back to you.

On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 9:11 PM Justin Pryzby  wrote:

> On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 11:39:19AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> > Bruce Momjian  writes:
> > > On Sat, Apr  3, 2021 at 08:38:18PM +0530, aditya desai wrote:
> > >> Yes, force_parallel_mode is on. Should we set it off?
> >
> > > Yes.  I bet someone set it without reading our docs:
> >
> > >
> https://www.postgresql.org/docs/13/runtime-config-query.html#RUNTIME-CONFIG-QUERY-OTHER
> >
> > > --> Allows the use of parallel queries for testing purposes even in
> cases
> > > --> where no performance benefit is expected.
> >
> > > We might need to clarify this sentence to be clearer it is _only_ for
> > > testing.
> >
> > I wonder why it is listed under planner options at all, and not under
> > developer options.
>
> Because it's there to help DBAs catch errors in functions incorrectly
> marked as
> parallel safe.
>
> --
> Justin
>


Re: SELECT Query taking 200 ms on PostgreSQL compared to 4 ms on Oracle after migration.

2021-04-03 Thread aditya desai
Hi Justin/Bruce/Pavel,
Thanks for your inputs. After setting force_parallel_mode=off Execution
time of same query was reduced to 1ms from 200 ms. Worked like a charm. We
also increased work_mem to 80=MB. Thanks again.

Regards,
Aditya.

On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 9:14 PM aditya desai  wrote:

> Thanks Justin. Will review all parameters and get back to you.
>
> On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 9:11 PM Justin Pryzby  wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 11:39:19AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
>> > Bruce Momjian  writes:
>> > > On Sat, Apr  3, 2021 at 08:38:18PM +0530, aditya desai wrote:
>> > >> Yes, force_parallel_mode is on. Should we set it off?
>> >
>> > > Yes.  I bet someone set it without reading our docs:
>> >
>> > >
>> https://www.postgresql.org/docs/13/runtime-config-query.html#RUNTIME-CONFIG-QUERY-OTHER
>> >
>> > > --> Allows the use of parallel queries for testing purposes even in
>> cases
>> > > --> where no performance benefit is expected.
>> >
>> > > We might need to clarify this sentence to be clearer it is _only_ for
>> > > testing.
>> >
>> > I wonder why it is listed under planner options at all, and not under
>> > developer options.
>>
>> Because it's there to help DBAs catch errors in functions incorrectly
>> marked as
>> parallel safe.
>>
>> --
>> Justin
>>
>


Re: SELECT Query taking 200 ms on PostgreSQL compared to 4 ms on Oracle after migration.

2021-04-03 Thread Pavel Stehule
so 3. 4. 2021 v 19:37 odesílatel aditya desai  napsal:

> Hi Justin/Bruce/Pavel,
> Thanks for your inputs. After setting force_parallel_mode=off Execution
> time of same query was reduced to 1ms from 200 ms. Worked like a charm. We
> also increased work_mem to 80=MB. Thanks
>

super.

The too big max_connection can cause a lot of problems. You should install
and use pgbouncer or pgpool II.

https://scalegrid.io/blog/postgresql-connection-pooling-part-4-pgbouncer-vs-pgpool/

Regards

Pavel




> again.
>
> Regards,
> Aditya.
>
> On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 9:14 PM aditya desai  wrote:
>
>> Thanks Justin. Will review all parameters and get back to you.
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 9:11 PM Justin Pryzby 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 11:39:19AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
>>> > Bruce Momjian  writes:
>>> > > On Sat, Apr  3, 2021 at 08:38:18PM +0530, aditya desai wrote:
>>> > >> Yes, force_parallel_mode is on. Should we set it off?
>>> >
>>> > > Yes.  I bet someone set it without reading our docs:
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> https://www.postgresql.org/docs/13/runtime-config-query.html#RUNTIME-CONFIG-QUERY-OTHER
>>> >
>>> > > --> Allows the use of parallel queries for testing purposes even in
>>> cases
>>> > > --> where no performance benefit is expected.
>>> >
>>> > > We might need to clarify this sentence to be clearer it is _only_ for
>>> > > testing.
>>> >
>>> > I wonder why it is listed under planner options at all, and not under
>>> > developer options.
>>>
>>> Because it's there to help DBAs catch errors in functions incorrectly
>>> marked as
>>> parallel safe.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Justin
>>>
>>


Re: SELECT Query taking 200 ms on PostgreSQL compared to 4 ms on Oracle after migration.

2021-04-03 Thread aditya desai
Yes. I have made suggestions on connection pooling as well. Currently it is
being done from Application side.

On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 11:12 PM Pavel Stehule 
wrote:

>
>
> so 3. 4. 2021 v 19:37 odesílatel aditya desai  napsal:
>
>> Hi Justin/Bruce/Pavel,
>> Thanks for your inputs. After setting force_parallel_mode=off Execution
>> time of same query was reduced to 1ms from 200 ms. Worked like a charm. We
>> also increased work_mem to 80=MB. Thanks
>>
>
> super.
>
> The too big max_connection can cause a lot of problems. You should install
> and use pgbouncer or pgpool II.
>
>
> https://scalegrid.io/blog/postgresql-connection-pooling-part-4-pgbouncer-vs-pgpool/
>
> Regards
>
> Pavel
>
>
>
>
>> again.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Aditya.
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 9:14 PM aditya desai  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Justin. Will review all parameters and get back to you.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 9:11 PM Justin Pryzby 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 11:39:19AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
 > Bruce Momjian  writes:
 > > On Sat, Apr  3, 2021 at 08:38:18PM +0530, aditya desai wrote:
 > >> Yes, force_parallel_mode is on. Should we set it off?
 >
 > > Yes.  I bet someone set it without reading our docs:
 >
 > >
 https://www.postgresql.org/docs/13/runtime-config-query.html#RUNTIME-CONFIG-QUERY-OTHER
 >
 > > --> Allows the use of parallel queries for testing purposes even in
 cases
 > > --> where no performance benefit is expected.
 >
 > > We might need to clarify this sentence to be clearer it is _only_
 for
 > > testing.
 >
 > I wonder why it is listed under planner options at all, and not under
 > developer options.

 Because it's there to help DBAs catch errors in functions incorrectly
 marked as
 parallel safe.

 --
 Justin

>>>


Re: SELECT Query taking 200 ms on PostgreSQL compared to 4 ms on Oracle after migration.

2021-04-03 Thread Pavel Stehule
so 3. 4. 2021 v 19:45 odesílatel aditya desai  napsal:

> Yes. I have made suggestions on connection pooling as well. Currently it
> is being done from Application side.
>

It is usual - but the application side pooling doesn't solve well
overloading. The behaviour of the database is not linear. Usually opened
connections are not active. But any non active connection can be changed to
an active connection (there is not any limit for active connections), and
then the performance can be very very slow. Good pooling and good setting
of max_connections is protection against overloading. max_connection should
be 10-20 x CPU cores  (for OLTP)

Regards

Pavel




> On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 11:12 PM Pavel Stehule 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> so 3. 4. 2021 v 19:37 odesílatel aditya desai 
>> napsal:
>>
>>> Hi Justin/Bruce/Pavel,
>>> Thanks for your inputs. After setting force_parallel_mode=off Execution
>>> time of same query was reduced to 1ms from 200 ms. Worked like a charm. We
>>> also increased work_mem to 80=MB. Thanks
>>>
>>
>> super.
>>
>> The too big max_connection can cause a lot of problems. You should
>> install and use pgbouncer or pgpool II.
>>
>>
>> https://scalegrid.io/blog/postgresql-connection-pooling-part-4-pgbouncer-vs-pgpool/
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Pavel
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> again.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Aditya.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 9:14 PM aditya desai  wrote:
>>>
 Thanks Justin. Will review all parameters and get back to you.

 On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 9:11 PM Justin Pryzby 
 wrote:

> On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 11:39:19AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> > Bruce Momjian  writes:
> > > On Sat, Apr  3, 2021 at 08:38:18PM +0530, aditya desai wrote:
> > >> Yes, force_parallel_mode is on. Should we set it off?
> >
> > > Yes.  I bet someone set it without reading our docs:
> >
> > >
> https://www.postgresql.org/docs/13/runtime-config-query.html#RUNTIME-CONFIG-QUERY-OTHER
> >
> > > --> Allows the use of parallel queries for testing purposes even
> in cases
> > > --> where no performance benefit is expected.
> >
> > > We might need to clarify this sentence to be clearer it is _only_
> for
> > > testing.
> >
> > I wonder why it is listed under planner options at all, and not under
> > developer options.
>
> Because it's there to help DBAs catch errors in functions incorrectly
> marked as
> parallel safe.
>
> --
> Justin
>