(Again) Column Store on PostGreSQL

2019-01-04 Thread Simon AUBERT
Hello,

We can find this very informative blog post :
https://blog.2ndquadrant.com/column-store-plans/

And this wiki page :
https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/ColumnOrientedSTorage
I must say the approach with the "orientation" option is a genius idea.

I won't discuss much the advantages of COS, I had three years using Vertica
-I loved it-, some tests of Monetdb, and recently Column Store Index on
MSQL Server etc. And I'm pretty sure everybody is convinced this works
great for Instant Analytics with products such as Tableau or Spotfire.. and
much better than, saying, Hive. MonetDb is not so much enterprise ready
(not even paid support available), CH is young while PGSQL has proven its
high value in Transactionnal DB, the only thing missing for even a bigger
deployment is this feature.

>From what I understand, there is a team at 2ndquadrant.com that works on it
(but I'm not sure it's still in the dev pipe).

My questions :
-do you develop from scratch or do you plan to use some code of
MonetDb/Clickhouse/C_Store_fdw for that?  I don't know if even a
collaboration between teams is feasible (I may be very naive but that would
kick ass ^^)
.
-is it still in the pipe? do you have an idea of the workload or even ETA?

-I'm not a developer myself but I would be interested in testing,
benchmarking, etc.. how to get involved?

Best regards,

-- 
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Re: (Again) Column Store on PostGreSQL

2019-01-14 Thread Simon AUBERT
Thanks Pavel and Pascal.

I guess I was really optimistic about an early implementation ^^


Best regards,

Simon

Le ven. 4 janv. 2019 à 18:35, Pavel Stehule  a
écrit :

> Hi
>
> pá 4. 1. 2019 v 17:12 odesílatel Simon AUBERT 
> napsal:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> We can find this very informative blog post :
>> https://blog.2ndquadrant.com/column-store-plans/
>>
>> And this wiki page :
>> https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/ColumnOrientedSTorage
>> I must say the approach with the "orientation" option is a genius idea.
>>
>> I won't discuss much the advantages of COS, I had three years using
>> Vertica -I loved it-, some tests of Monetdb, and recently Column Store
>> Index on MSQL Server etc. And I'm pretty sure everybody is convinced this
>> works great for Instant Analytics with products such as Tableau or
>> Spotfire.. and much better than, saying, Hive. MonetDb is not so much
>> enterprise ready (not even paid support available), CH is young while PGSQL
>> has proven its high value in Transactionnal DB, the only thing missing for
>> even a bigger deployment is this feature.
>>
>> From what I understand, there is a team at 2ndquadrant.com that works on
>> it (but I'm not sure it's still in the dev pipe).
>>
>> My questions :
>> -do you develop from scratch or do you plan to use some code of
>> MonetDb/Clickhouse/C_Store_fdw for that?  I don't know if even a
>> collaboration between teams is feasible (I may be very naive but that would
>> kick ass ^^)
>>
>
>  With high probability the code should be written from scratch - every
> database has lot of unique features, code base, memory management,
> optimizer, .. It is hard, almost impossible to reuse some code from other
> database.
>
> Regards
>
> Pavel
>
> .
>> -is it still in the pipe? do you have an idea of the workload or even ETA?
>>
>> -I'm not a developer myself but I would be interested in testing,
>> benchmarking, etc.. how to get involved?
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> --
>> Simon AUBERT
>> aubert.si...@gmail.com
>> +33 (0)6 66 28 52 04
>>
>

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+33 (0)6 66 28 52 04