[opensource-dev] Uses of the Lookat target Crosshairs

2010-10-03 Thread dz
Folks,

Apologies if this is NOT the place to post this...but I really don't know
who else to ask.

Yesterday I encountered an avatar who exhibited a very strange behavior.
Whenever someone in the club spoke in local chat, a Look At target would
attach to them.  I understand there is a toggle to have your look at swap to
the the most recent to chat,   but this look at target was white...  which
is not a standard cross hair color.

The other incredibly odd thing  was that the look at target stayed locked
once there..  Because I was using the phoenix browser, which puts names on
the targets, I could see that there were as many as 30 of these targets
active at once.

Does anyone know of a way to determine  what the white target denotes, how
it gets attached to multiple targets at once?

When i asked the avatar  I got a very rude response...  When I carried my
concern to the club owner, I got more rudeness and denials.. but it seemed
clear that there was some intent behind the crosshairs, as they were removed
shortly after I expressed my concerns.

D
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[opensource-dev] Uses of the Lookat target Crosshairs

2010-10-04 Thread dz
Folks,

 Thanks for the informed responses.  I admit that most of my concern was NOT
a function of seeing the cross-hairs, but rather the response I got when I
inquired about it.   The fact that the avatar was 10 days old, was folded up
in a corner not moving, and that he basically told me to "kiss his ass" when
I asked him what viewer he was using.I might also be willing to admit it
was a "mistake" like Robin suffered, except the crosshairs disappeared
shortly after I suggested I would be Abuse Reporting a member of his staff
group in a conversation with the club owner.

It seems clear that this user is NOT using a "standard" viewer, has control
over the targets, and an attitude like "If you come here, we can do whatever
we like" (until it looks like you might really know something about whats
going on).   After three years of SL, and a LOT of online time, these kinds
of things raise all kinds of red flags.

Robin  Was  "Your viewer"  in use before or after the recent TPV
changes?  Did you intentionally alter the look at target color so that the
text did not conform to the standard color codes used everywhere else?  Did
you sit folded up in a corner 24/7 outside a busy club?

For me,  the bottom line seems to be that the knowledgeable viewer folks
don't see any reason to be concerned over what is most likely just a bug in
someone's implementation of LookAt crosshairs.   I find it just too weird
that I've only seen this happen for 2 avatars, and approaching both of them
in a civil manner has resulted in a response typical of a child caught with
cookie crumbs on their lips.   I also realize none of those issues are
relevant to this mailing list...  SO

Thank you all again for your feedback ( and the work you all do (wink) )...

D




On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 2:14 AM, Robin Cornelius
wrote:

> On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 2:55 AM, Latif Khalifa 
> wrote:
> > You are reading too much into these "targets". Those are just viewer
> > effects that help your viewer position head and the direction of eyes
> > of the avatar to the desired location. They have no other use.
> >
>
> Yes as Latif says there only purpose is for the head turn/look at
> animation so that your avatar will turn its head towards the chat
> source for a nice i'm listening to you effect. The LL viewer uses a
> small back off so that in busy areas you are not flipping your head
> everywhere and i would guess the LL viewer correctly clears the look
> at effect after a short time.
>
> Some viewers (i believed introduced by Emerald) seem to make a big
> deal out of the look at crosshairs, then if another viewer comes along
> that does not correctly clear the lookat effect you get rude IMs
> asking why your crosshairs are on me. I've had this before with one of
> my viewers, it was not clearing the look at, so in a busy area i
> quickly ended up with crosshairs on everyone who had spoken then
> started getting rude IMs from emerald users who had the look at cross
> hairs turned on and could see where they were pointed.
>
> Robin
>
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