Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer release repository update

[Whirly Fizzle]

It's here:  https://bitbucket.org/lindenlab/viewer-drtvwr-365/commits/all


Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2014 17:20:35 -0700
From: darien.caldw...@gmail.com
To: opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com
Subject: Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer release repository update

Says it was released on the 30th, which was Friday. Maybe people just wanted to 
go home for the weekend and thought people could wait a few days for the 
source. I'm betting it will get added Monday when people go back to work. :-)

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Re: [opensource-dev] Telehubs

[Whirly Fizzle]

I wouldn't remove that floater. Telehubs are still used in some places.
Couple of quick examples:

https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/BUG-5331https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/BUG-6678

Whirly Fizzle




> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 16:37:21 +0200
> From: sl...@free.fr
> To: opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com
> Subject: [opensource-dev] Telehubs
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> During my never-ending viewer code cleanup efforts, I came accross an
> old floater, the "Telehub" one... If I am correct, I think this dates
> back from the most ancient times of SL, when it was not possible to TP
> all over the grid, but only to some pre-defined hubs... Fact is, since
> my fist day in SL, back in 2006, I never came accross one such thing
> as a telehub on the grid !
> 
> I checked, and that code is still in the newest v3 viewer branches.
> 
> So my question is: is there any practical usage any more for that
> "Telehub" floater ?
> 
> And as a corollary question: are Telehubs in use (or even implemented
> at all) in OpenSim ?
> 
> Henri.
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Re: [opensource-dev] Did that new CDN break web profiles for all TPVs?

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No Problem for me on Firestorm or other TPVs.
Windows 7 64bit.
There have been no screams from Firestorm users about broken web profiles since 
CDN rolled out.
I don't see how CDN is even related to web profiles.

> Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 21:21:59 +0100
> From: lance.corri...@eregion.de
> To: opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com
> Subject: [opensource-dev] Did that new CDN break web profiles for all TPVs?
> 
> Hi,
> 
> is it just me, or did that new CDN break webprofiles for all viewers
> that don't have some new code for it?
> 
> In Dolphin Viewer 3 Beta as well as in FS all I see is plaintext, links
> in profiles don't work anymore, no graphics; as if the stylesheet is
> missing. In the original viewer from get.secondlife.com and in a binary
> built from the latest viewer-release export the profiles work just fine,
> and if I go to someone's profile in firefox using
> http://my.secondlife.com/lance.corrimal it loads fine, too.
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 
> Cheers,
> LC
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Re: [opensource-dev] Quicktime

[Whirly Fizzle]

Quite a few widely used SL TV sets still use quicktime media. Those TV sets no 
longer play the movies now I've uninstalled quicktime from my Windows box.
It appears LL are removing quicktime support from their viewer 
https://bitbucket.org/callum_linden/viewer-release-noqt

Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2016 17:29:52 -0700
From: darien.caldw...@gmail.com
To: opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com
Subject: Re: [opensource-dev] Quicktime

Actually after more testing, I do see there's one last vestige Quicktime is 
required for, and that's MP4 video streams. Won't work without it.
But MP3 audio streams don't require Quicktime anymore, which was what I was 
basing my observation on. So I guess we were both right to some extent. If you 
don't watch MP4 videos on your parcel, (I certainly don't), you don't need 
Quicktime installed on your PC.

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Re: [opensource-dev] Replacement for QuickTime media plugin - a straw man proposal

[Whirly Fizzle]

The JIRA issues Nicky referenced are:

https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/BUG-11008 - [CEF] MPEG4 and AAC video not 
working in TV object

https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/BUG-11606 - Missing proprietary codec support

Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 11:24:50 +0200
From: sl.nicky...@googlemail.com
To: cal...@lindenlab.com
CC: opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com
Subject: Re: [opensource-dev] Replacement for QuickTime media plugin - a straw 
man proposal
Otherwise I prefer using gstreamer or VLC for MOAP and the codecs in CEF just 
so they work in the browser.I know there is demand for those, there is also two 
Jiras for that, so TVs can use HTML5. I can dig those two Jira up (or ask 
Whirly)if people are interested in the tickets.


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Re: [opensource-dev] Firewall block of media files

[Whirly Fizzle]

That will not play in a web browser though, the file needs to be downloaded to 
play it.
Being able to play dropbox links like that via MOAP never worked in any SL 
viewer as far as I'm aware.

Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 13:23:32 -0500
From: nickyper...@gmail.com
To: cal...@lindenlab.com
CC: opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com
Subject: Re: [opensource-dev] Firewall block of media files

URL placed in MOAP Texture
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7833186/Horse.wmv

This plays in windows media player and VLC installed on system.


Debug Log
2016-05-19T17:45:41Z WARNING: LLToastAlertPanel::LLToastAlertPanel: Alert: You 
have requested a file download, which is not supported within Second Life.
2016-05-19T17:45:43Z WARNING: LLToastAlertPanel::LLToastAlertPanel: Alert: You 
have requested a file download, which is not supported within Second Life.
2016-05-19T17:45:44Z WARNING: LLToastAlertPanel::LLToastAlertPanel: Alert: You 
have requested a file download, which is not supported within Second Life.
2016-05-19T17:45:47Z WARNING: LLToastAlertPanel::LLToastAlertPanel: Alert: You 
have requested a file download, which is not supported within Second Life.

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On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Callum Prentice (Callum) 
 wrote:
​​At one time we could play individual media files on both parcel media and 
MOAP such as mov avi wmv that were stored on services such as Dropbox.
I noticed will testing viewer-release-vlc that it these are not allowed.

​Can you elaborate what you mean by "not allowed" - they just don't play? 
If so, it might be that VLC doesn't support those media types.  I've certainly 
been able to play MPEG4 files directly from Dropbox for example.
​ 




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Re: [opensource-dev] Rift Viewer Source Code

[Whirly Fizzle]

It's been available since the first Rift viewer.
The latest Project Oculus viewer was built from 
https://bitbucket.org/obscurestar/viewer-graham3
The repositories for current release, RC & project viewers are always listed 
here: 
http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Linden_Lab_Official:Viewer_Source_Repositories

From: tom.will...@bessacarr.com
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2016 10:51:23 +0100
To: opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com
Subject: [opensource-dev] Rift Viewer Source Code

Is their any news about when the rift viewer source code will be available? 





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Re: [opensource-dev] windows build issues

[Whirly Fizzle]

If you are building Firestorm 64bit, you must use Nicky Dasmijn's autobuild: 
https://bitbucket.org/NickyD/autobuild-1.0

NickyD / autobuild-1.0
bitbucket.org
Hg repository hosted by Bitbucket.





From: opensource-dev-boun...@lists.secondlife.com 
 on behalf of Lance Corrimal 

Sent: 04 January 2017 14:12
To: Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence); opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com
Subject: Re: [opensource-dev] windows build issues


actually I'm building the firestorm developer version, and that used to work 
just fine until I reinstalled my PC yesterday ;_;

Am 04.01.2017 um 15:01 schrieb Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence):
On 2017-01-04 08:15 , Lance Corrimal wrote:

d:\Users\lemmy\Build\autobuild-1.0>autobuild --version
autobuild 1.0


d:\Users\lemmy\Build\autobuild-1.0>which autobuild
/cygdrive/d/Users/lemmy/Build/autobuild-1.0/bin/autobuild
64bit here.. using your autobuild, which used to work just fine before I
reinstalled my PC...


If you're trying to build viewer64 you should be aware that it's still a Work 
In Progress and has some limitations...

Also, building that repository requires using autobuild-1.1 
(https://bitbucket.org/lindenlab/autobuild-1.1). All this will be updated on 
the wiki once this project has reached the Release Candidate stage.
lindenlab / autobuild-1.1
bitbucket.org
Hg repository hosted by Bitbucket.





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Re: [opensource-dev] List archive down ?

[Whirly Fizzle]

I filed a bug report for this & was told it was a known issue.

https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/BUG-41243 - https://lists.secondlife.com/ is 
down



From: opensource-dev-boun...@lists.secondlife.com 
 on behalf of Henri Beauchamp 

Sent: 30 January 2017 17:55
To: opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com
Subject: [opensource-dev] List archive down ?

Greetings,

It's been a couple of weeks that I noticed it: the archive site for this
list seems to be down:
https://lists.secondlife.com/pipermail/opensource-dev/
reports "Unable to connect"...

Did the address change (it's still the one listed on the Wiki) or is
this a problem with a badly configured server ?

Henri.
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Re: [opensource-dev] List archive down ?

[Whirly Fizzle]

...and as if by magic, https://lists.secondlife.com/pipermail/opensource-dev/ 
is back up...



From: opensource-dev-boun...@lists.secondlife.com 
 on behalf of Whirly Fizzle 

Sent: 30 January 2017 18:38
To: Henri Beauchamp; opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com
Subject: Re: [opensource-dev] List archive down ?


I filed a bug report for this & was told it was a known issue.

https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/BUG-41243 - https://lists.secondlife.com/ is 
down



From: opensource-dev-boun...@lists.secondlife.com 
 on behalf of Henri Beauchamp 

Sent: 30 January 2017 17:55
To: opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com
Subject: [opensource-dev] List archive down ?

Greetings,

It's been a couple of weeks that I noticed it: the archive site for this
list seems to be down:
https://lists.secondlife.com/pipermail/opensource-dev/
reports "Unable to connect"...

Did the address change (it's still the one listed on the Wiki) or is
this a problem with a badly configured server ?

Henri.
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Re: [opensource-dev] Mac viewer and Apple maintained opensource libraries

[Whirly Fizzle]

As Cinder said, that crash appears to be caused by a problem with the Apple 
Nvidia drivers shipped with El Capitan & Sierra.

Switching over to using the Nvidia web drivers fixes the frequent crashing but 
some systems suffer poorer viewer performance with the Nvidia web drivers.


The LL bug report for this crash is https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/BUG-10302

Firestorm bug report: http://jira.phoenixviewer.com/browse/FIRE-16821

[FIRE-16821] [BUG-10302] [Mac El Capitan] Firestorm crash 
...
jira.phoenixviewer.com
Firestorm; FIRE-16821 [BUG-10302] [Mac El Capitan] Firestorm 
crash/incompatibility with Mac OS 10.11 Beta (15A234d), 15A282a - GM release & 
10.11.0 full release.





From: opensource-dev-boun...@lists.secondlife.com 
 on behalf of Oz Linden (Scott 
Lawrence) 
Sent: 01 February 2017 21:15
To: opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com
Subject: Re: [opensource-dev] Mac viewer and Apple maintained opensource 
libraries

On 2017-02-01 15:24 , Geir Nøklebye wrote:

When will be see the crash in the occlusion code being fixed due to the fact 
that GL_ARB_occlusion_query2 is not available in the OpenGL Legacy Profile the 
renderer currently is forced to when the viewer is running on macOS 10.11 or 
higher?


If you've got a fix, we'd love to see it.

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Re: [opensource-dev] Mac viewer and Apple maintained opensource libraries

[Whirly Fizzle]

We already tried getting Firestorm users to disable Object-Object occlusion.

This didn't affect the frequency of the crashes at all.


As Geir said, lowering the texture memory does seem to lessen the frequency of 
the crashes, but this causes increased texture thrashing so it is not really a 
good workaround, though I guess increased texture thrashing is preferable to 
crashing all the time.

The only "good" workaround found so far is switching to using the Nvidia web 
drivers.

This is not always possible though, for example the guy on 
https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/BUG-40674 is stuffed because there are no 
web drivers available for his card.

His only option is to roll back to Mavericks to fix the crashes.



From: opensource-dev-boun...@lists.secondlife.com 
 on behalf of Henri Beauchamp 

Sent: 02 February 2017 12:42
To: opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com
Subject: Re: [opensource-dev] Mac viewer and Apple maintained opensource 
libraries

On Thu, 2 Feb 2017 08:14:21 +0100, Geir Nøklebye wrote:

> The viewer still crash in the occlusion code, but not as often as
> without these changes.

Meaning you actually didn't fix anything...

Stupid question: what happens if you disable the Objects occlusion
setting in the graphics preferences ?

Henri.
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Re: [opensource-dev] INTEL driver windows exit graphics corruption

[Whirly Fizzle]

As far as I'm aware, there isn't a bug that causes graphics corruption when 
exiting an SL viewer that specifically affects Intel cards.

I suspect you are looking for this bug, where the problem started with the 
Windows 10 1903 update - this affects all graphics - Intel, AMD & Nvidia.
BUG-227042 - When exiting the LL SL viewer graphics are 
borked

An affected user can fix the corrupted display after exiting an SL viewer by 
using the shortcut CTRL+SHIFT+WIN+B, which resets the graphics adapter.

LL shipped a fix for this bug in their Rainbow viewer.
If Kokua is affected by this bug, you need to merge in this fix: 
https://hg.phoenixviewer.com/phoenix-firestorm-lgpl/rev/5f073ce21cc1
This fix also fixes this older issue that only affected Nvidia cards as far as 
I'm aware: BUG-202704 - Corrupted display after closing the viewer with Windows 
10 "Night Light" enabled

Regarding something specific to Intel for this bug, maybe you are looking for 
this?
https://hg.phoenixviewer.com/phoenix-firestorm-lgpl/rev/ab2ec5c5423b

I can't see SL-11341, but it's listed in the Rainbow Viewer release notes as a 
crash fix: SL-11341 BugSplat 
Crash: ig7icd32+0x2b07d
https://releasenotes.secondlife.com/viewer/6.2.3.527758.html



From: opensource-dev-boun...@lists.secondlife.com 
 on behalf of Nicky Perian 

Sent: 21 August 2019 01:47
To: OpenSource Mailing List 
Subject: [opensource-dev] INTEL driver windows exit graphics corruption

I saw this documented somewhere. I can't recall where. Does anyone know where?
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