[opensource-dev] Blocking viewers.

2010-09-08 Thread Tom Grimshaw
  Dear Linden Lab,

It's absolutely none of your business what software I choose to run on 
my PC.

Blocking emerald is a step of pure arrogance - and ignorance - on Linden 
Lab's behalf - it's not having an adverse effect on your servers, in 
fact THE ONLY WAY you can tell i'm runing Emerald is by the channel and 
version provided in login, and this has been proven by the number of 
clones that have popped up with their channel renamed (and the ID 
texture changed of course). You cannot censor Open Source software, and 
the fact that you're trying to makes you a despicable organisation.

Stop policing my computer. I will decide what viewer I use, thank you.

~T
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Re: [opensource-dev] Blocking viewers.

2010-09-08 Thread Tom Grimshaw
  On 08/09/2010 22:58, Celierra Darling wrote:
> there's reasons why LL doesn't trust Emerald to connect to their servers.

My issue is that none of these reasons involve the way the viewer 
interacts with the LL Servers in any way. They made the decision based 
on the conduct of a few idiots (and there are always idiots in open 
source projects) - and not because of any real issue with the viewer itself.

If the viewer was causing server issues or was enabling content theft, I 
would agree with this decision.

~T
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Re: [opensource-dev] Blocking viewers.

2010-09-08 Thread Tom Grimshaw
  On 08/09/2010 23:09, Mike Dickson wrote:
> Oh geez. Do we really have to go through this again.  You can run
> whatever you like on your PC.  And Linden Lab has every right to
> determine what software they will allow to connect to their SERVICE.

Okay, let's just outline this properly.

The lab DO NOT have any right to determine what software they will allow 
to connect to their SERVICE.  The only thing they DO have a right to do 
is to determine which TCP connections they want to accept and which UDP 
packets they want to accept.  It's my right to use whichever software I 
want to generate those packets. As such, I accept that they have the 
legal right to block logins from clients containing "Emerald" in their 
version string - but not a moral right. And they certainly do not have a 
right to threaten people with account bans if they "bypass" the ban.

Linden Lab have blocked Emerald due to a POLITICAL DISAGREEMENT with 
their dev team.  They haven't blocked it because of any fault with the 
software itself,  they're not protecting anyone - they're taking 
pre-emptive action against a project because of some percieved danger 
that might evolve.

~T

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Re: [opensource-dev] Where to put & look for test viewers

2010-09-17 Thread Tom Grimshaw

 On 17/09/2010 17:16, Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) wrote:
We have lots of community members who are ready and willing to try out 
the latest and greatest experiments and fixes from developers,

Are viewers with experimental OpenSim-targeted features welcome there?

~T
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