[opensource-dev] Sky and water settings per parcel

[Laurent Bechir]

Hello,

I've added a comment on this feature request about sky and water 
settings per parcel, if anyone is interested :

https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-6463


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Re: [opensource-dev] Exclude Home from teleport history

[laurent . bechir]

Erin Mallory a écrit :
> I would really really rather not see home excluded because of the 
> simple fact often home lotation can get reset if your preferences get 
> changed or any of a half dozen minor bugs.  so its nice to have it in 
> the hisotry so you can go back and set it back.

I've never seen that. Did it happened to you already ?
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Re: [opensource-dev] Exclude Home from teleport history

[Laurent Bechir]

Tateru Nino a écrit :
> I've had it happen to me before also. There's a couple things that can
> silently reset your home location.  For a while, some people were
> triggering it intentionally as a way of evading parcel ejection and so
> on - sure the owner can try to send you home, but if your home is where
> you are, nothing happens.
>
> At least one of the methods (which can happen unintentionally) was
> repeatedly reported as a security exploit back in 2006 - but AFAIK, it's
> still unfixed.

Perhaps what could be done is to put it as an optionnal setting (a check 
box to enable/disable for example) in the settings panel ? Like this 
everyine would have it the way he likes. I'm asking that because I often 
come and go from my home parcel so the history is quickly filled with a 
lot of landmark to it.
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[opensource-dev] Disable the Home button JIRA submitted

[Laurent Bechir]

Hello,

I've opened a JIRA to have the Home button disabled when a resident has 
no home set. I've had the idea after testing the button disabled when 
voice is inactive in 2.6 viewer.

https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-24755
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[opensource-dev] Forum for ATI, Apple and FBO problem

[Laurent Bechir]

Hello,

Some time ago, I've opened a bug report on Apple website concerning the 
problem of ATI cards with FBO which stops Mac users to use dynamic 
shadows. I know they are not officials, but they work quite well with 
Nvidia cards :). I've received an answer recently asking me for the full 
System Profiler Report of my machine. I was wondering if accumulating 
the experiences on that subject would help make the things move faster. 
So I've set up a forum where mac users wanting to do it could tell their 
experience with ATI card and join their full System Profiler Report with 
their experience. I would then put the link to the forum in my bug 
report. Do you think this could be a good idea ?

Bug report :

https://bugreport.apple.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/RadarWeb.woa/24/wo/KGyze933oURhrNytyxPfAw/5.83.28.0.9

Forum :

http://macati.madonie.org/


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Re: [opensource-dev] Forum for ATI, Apple and FBO problem

[Laurent Bechir]

I've written to AMD support and got this answer which reject the responsibility 
to Apple :

"If your PC is an Apple system, we recommend you contact to Apple for the 
suppport for OpenGL for Mac. If you purchased one of our graphics cards 
designed for Mac sytem, for example the Radeon HD 3870 Mac, then the first 
driver version is developed by us 

and the following ones by Apple. 

This is the reason why we recommend you to contact Apple for more informations 
regarding your application."


Le 13 févr. 2011 à 12:47, Trilo Byte a écrit :

> As I understand the issue, the problem is on the ATI side (possibly their 
> implementation of OpenGL), and is not specific to Apple.
> 
> On Feb 12, 2011, at 5:56 PM, Laurent Bechir wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Some time ago, I've opened a bug report on Apple website concerning the 
>> problem of ATI cards with FBO which stops Mac users to use dynamic 
>> shadows. I know they are not officials, but they work quite well with 
>> Nvidia cards :). I've received an answer recently asking me for the full 
>> System Profiler Report of my machine. I was wondering if accumulating 
>> the experiences on that subject would help make the things move faster. 
>> So I've set up a forum where mac users wanting to do it could tell their 
>> experience with ATI card and join their full System Profiler Report with 
>> their experience. I would then put the link to the forum in my bug 
>> report. Do you think this could be a good idea ?
>> 
>> Bug report :
>> 
>> https://bugreport.apple.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/RadarWeb.woa/24/wo/KGyze933oURhrNytyxPfAw/5.83.28.0.9
>> 
>> Forum :
>> 
>> http://macati.madonie.org/

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Re: [opensource-dev] Test build available

[Laurent Bechir]

Le 26 févr. 2011 à 05:33, Philippe (Merov) Bossut a écrit :

> Hi,
> 
> I created a "PO Build" to test a bunch of JIRAs in the Review state that just 
> need testing and PO Approval. The binaries are here:
> 
> http://automated-builds-secondlife-com.s3.amazonaws.com/hg/repo/merov_viewer-development-import/rev/222147/index.html
> 
> The JIRAs pulled in for testing are:
> * STORM-357 : Gestures button is in the pressed state after drag-n-drop but 
> gestures list isn't visible

Fixed

> * STORM-665 : User is not able to view full name of Group's founder in the 
> Group Profile

I always see the display name, but not always the user name if the display name 
is too long.

> * STORM-842 : "Start at" list isn't populated with favorites if user name is 
> typed in fashion "firstname.lastname
> * STORM-889 : Put Link/Unlink in Edit Panel

Nice :)

> * STORM-949 : please remove actual usernames from XUI files <-- Trivial and 
> not really testable
> * STORM-954 : SL-viewer 2.0 No nearby people when over approximately 1000 
> meters <-- Long time dangling issue! Please test...

I guess you mean height of 1000 m ? sims are no more than 256 m ?

> * STORM-971 : 'Stop Tracking' menu item is still enabled in Mini-map floater 
> after you stopped tracking in Nearby mini-map
> * STORM-991 : Parser warning on Inventory floater construction
> * STORM-1004 : Unblocking/blocking name sometimes deletes identically named 
> entry, but of different TYPE
> 
> Cheers,
> - Merov
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Re: [opensource-dev] Mesh support current status???

[Laurent Bechir]

Le 17 avr. 2011 à 17:05, Brandon Husbands a écrit :

> as soon as blue mars decided to go mac only the mesh project went into 
> hibernation..
> No more competition... so no need for it to progress..

Where have you eard that Blue Mars would work on Mac ? I see nothing on their 
website.

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[opensource-dev] LLQtWebKit Mac OSX Build Instructions

[Laurent Bechir]

Hello,

I'm trying to build LLQtWebKit and when it comes to JavaScriptCore, build fails 
with this message :

http://pastie.org/2198921


Any idea which could help me ? I have a problem when building Kirstens Viewer 
on my Mac. LLQtWebKit doesn't work and always launch a 400 error. That's why I 
would like to try to build it from scratch to see if it could solve the problem.

Thank you
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[opensource-dev] Python broken on Lion - autobuild doesn't work

[Laurent Bechir]

Hello,

I've just upgraded to Lion and python seems to be broken. I can't use either 
autobuild and git. :

autobuild
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/bin/autobuild", line 5, in 
from pkg_resources import load_entry_point
  File 
"/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python/pkg_resources.py",
 line 2603, in 
working_set.require(__requires__)
  File 
"/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python/pkg_resources.py",
 line 666, in require
needed = self.resolve(parse_requirements(requirements))
  File 
"/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python/pkg_resources.py",
 line 565, in resolve
raise DistributionNotFound(req)  # XXX put more info here
pkg_resources.DistributionNotFound: autobuild==0.8.5

And Xcode is suddenly half english, half eastern language...


Perhaps installing the new version of Xcode would solve the problem ? But I 
don't know if I can still build Second Life viewer with Xcode 4.1.

Thank you
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Re: [opensource-dev] Python broken on Lion - autobuild doesn't work

[Laurent Bechir]

Le 24 juil. 2011 à 20:37, Katharine Berry a écrit :

> On Jul 24, 2011, at 2:16 PM, Altair Sythos Memo wrote:
>> Lion is shipped with Pythn2.7, you need to install "by hand" from
>> python homepage 2.6 package for macosx and modify your autobuild script
>> (text editor) changing first line from trailing "python" to "python-2.6"
> 
> 
> Not true; Lion comes with 2.5, 2.6 and 2.7 preinstalled.
> 
> I'd recommend simply trying to easy_install autobuild again; changing python 
> versions will require you to reinstall all your packages. Failing that, you 
> can do this to universally switch back to 2.6 (unless you invoke python2.5, 
> python2.6 or python2.7):
> 
> defaults write com.apple.versioner.python Version 2.6

I've removed autobuild in /usr/local/bin and set up the path to the one I had 
took from Second Life repository. It seems to work, now the problem comes from 
Xcode, CMAKE_MAKE_PROGRAM being not set. But I guess it is because XCode 3.2.x 
is not supported anymore with Lion.


> 
> As for fixing Xcode, I believe that only Xcode 4 is fully supported under 
> Lion; good luck.
> 
> – Katharine Berry
> 

Yes, only XCode 4 is supported on Lion. It's not possible anymore to install 
3.x versions. So I'll keep my fingers crossed and install it hoping it will 
work.
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[opensource-dev] Problem to download libkdu and fmod

[Laurent Bechir]

Hello,

I'm trying to build the viewer on my Mac and I can't go further the autobuild 
step, since I always get a time out for fmod and libkdu. I've found a solution 
for fmod putting an archive I have in my Dropbox, but I can't do that for 
libkdu. Anyone knows what can cause these time out ? I've noticed that when I 
try traceroute on s3-proxy-lindenlab.com, it stops at my router and doesn't go 
beyond. It's not the case for automated-builds-secondlife-com.s3.amazonaws.com, 
or any other destination. Any clue to solve that ?

Thank you
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Re: [opensource-dev] Problem to download libkdu and fmod

[Laurent Bechir]

Thank you for all your answers :) I've put an archive of fmod on my server, and 
the link and md5sum in autobuild.xml. I've used -c ReleaseOS, and it worked.

Le 29 juil. 2011 à 01:23, WolfPup Lowenhar a écrit :

> First is sounds like you using something besides the configurations that end
> in OS as those are for the Open Source Developers to use so that you do not
> have the problem of DLing the private libs that those of us on the outside
> do not have access to.
> Second there is an autobuild 3p-fmod that you can build locally and then
> place the information generated during the packaging in the autobuild.xml
> file and set fmod=on in the settings for OS builds in the autobuild.xml and
> then fmod wil 'dl' and install to the build tree.
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: opensource-dev-boun...@lists.secondlife.com [mailto:opensource-dev-
>> boun...@lists.secondlife.com] On Behalf Of Laurent Bechir
>> Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 6:15 PM
>> To: Viewer
>> Subject: [opensource-dev] Problem to download libkdu and fmod
>> 
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I'm trying to build the viewer on my Mac and I can't go further the
> autobuild
>> step, since I always get a time out for fmod and libkdu. I've found a
> solution
>> for fmod putting an archive I have in my Dropbox, but I can't do that for
>> libkdu. Anyone knows what can cause these time out ? I've noticed that
> when I
>> try traceroute on s3-proxy-lindenlab.com, it stops at my router and
> doesn't go
>> beyond. It's not the case for automated-builds-secondlife-
>> com.s3.amazonaws.com, or any other destination. Any clue to solve that ?
>> 
>> Thank you
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[opensource-dev] llqtwebki fails

[Laurent Bechir]

Since several days llqtwebkit build fails with this error :

http://pastie.org/2290530

I'm using Mac Os X Lion, Xcode 3.2.6, llqtwebkit-4.6+cookies-darwin-20100519. 
I'm trying to build the viewer with this older version just in case it could 
work better than the new one with the web profiles. I'm trying to build 
viewer-release branch.

Thank you
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Re: [opensource-dev] Call for mesh volunteer regions

[Laurent Bechir]

I have a friend who is interested by this program. But I have some questions 
before. I read on the wiki :

It is unlikely, but objects may be destroyed or broken permanently

Does it concerns only meshes or also other objects rezzed on the sim ? I'm 
asking because the sim she wants to add in the beta program is where is her 
main store as fashion designer so I wondered if it was safe to be volunteer ?

She is renting a sim. Can she asks herself to be volunteer or does she have to 
ask to the sim owner to do it ?

Thank you 


Le 2 août 2011 à 16:16, Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) a écrit :

> 
> 
>  Original Message 
> Subject:  Call for mesh volunteer regions
> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 16:14:55 -0700
> From: Charlie (Charlar) 
> 
> We're at about 100 regions right now - but we want to be at 300+ by the end 
> of the week.
> 
> Now we want to accelerate the process, and to do that, we need more 
> volunteers. If you have a region, or know a good resident who has one, the 
> mesh team would love for you to volunteer it to run mesh.
> 
> To understand the limitations (it can't be on the mainland, for one) and find 
> out how to get on the list, go to 
> https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Mesh/LiveVolunteers.
> 
> 
> Come live La Vida Residente!
> 
> Charlie (Charlar)
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Re: [opensource-dev] Call for mesh volunteer regions

[Laurent Bechir]

So, from what I read here, it's not a good idea to volunteer for a sim hosting 
a main shop. It wouldn't be nice to see items put for sale broken.

Thank you

Le 3 août 2011 à 04:03, Tateru Nino a écrit :

> Other objects. I 'lost' some sculptie items which were transformed into 
> toroids, when the code rolled out to my home sim - I'm on the mainland, and 
> my sim was randomly allocated to an RC channel at some point.
> 
> We spent hours speculating what could have happened to our stuff to break it 
> so badly.

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Re: [opensource-dev] 3.0.0 Beta Candidate available

[Laurent Bechir]

Le 10 août 2011 à 23:48, Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) a écrit :

> 
> We have completed our latest build for 3.0.0 (238157) and it's available for 
> download here:
> https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Downloading_test_builds#Beta_Candidates
> We'd love to have you try it out - doing the things you normally do in Second 
> Life and provide us with feedback.  

This release fix the bug of profile not showing up on Mac Os X Lion on my 
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Re: [opensource-dev] OS X Lion

[Laurent Bechir]

Le 15 août 2011 à 23:56, Mimika Oh a écrit :

> 
> If you only wish to build on Mac OS X Lion with Xcode 4 you could look at 
> 
>  which "works for me".

Hello,

How have you succeded with your build with XCode 4 ? I have XCode 4.1, I have 
downloaded the sources you mention, I have used "autobuild -c ReleaseOS", and 
Xcode don't want to build the viewer :

The scheme 'PROJECT_secondlife-bin_TEST_llworldmap' contains no buildables that 
can be built for the SDKs supported by the run destination My Mac 64-bit. Make 
sure your targets all specify SDKs that are supported by this version of Xcode.


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[opensource-dev] Problem with libllcommon.dylib while building the viewer

[laurent . bechir]

Hello,

I have a problem with libllcommon.dylib while building the viewer for my Mac :

http://pastebin.com/2ftBFMUk

Since libllcommon.dylib is not built, I get other errors after. I'm  
using Xcode 3.2.6 / gcc 4.0 / Snow Leopard 10.6.8 / Base SDK : Mac OS  
10.5 / Active configuration : Release / Active architecture : i386.  
The viewer is based on 1.23 source code (Cool VL viewer). My Mac is a  
MacBook Pro Core2duo 2,33

Any one can help me with that, please ?

Thank you
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[opensource-dev] Build of the viewer with Xcode on Leopard

[Laurent Bechir]

Hello,

My Mac is on Lion and I don't have anymore Snow Leopard DVD. Will I be 
able to build the viewer with Xcode on Leopard ? When will we be able to 
build the viewer using Xcode on Lion ?

Thank you
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[opensource-dev] Camera UI in Second Life beta viewer is broken

[Laurent Bechir]

Hello,

I've opened a Jira about the camera in Second Life beta viewer since it 
is impossible to take pictures with it. I don't know if this jira has 
already been submitted, but there is something to do about that :

https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-27652


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Re: [opensource-dev] Camera UI in Second Life beta viewer is broken

[Laurent Bechir]

It seems my answer has not arrived. I send a new link to show what 
happens when I try to take pictures. The version of the viewer is  3.2.2
 (244666) Nov  8 2011 17:17:35 :

http://youtu.be/93JYlOwYjY0

the Jira is here :

https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-27652

   	   
   	Cinder Roxley  
  19 novembre 2011 
03:55
  Hi,The video 
linked in the jira doesn't work in my browser. I'm able to takesnapshots
 in all modes using the new snapshot workflow.Kind regards,Cinder
 Roxley-Original Message-From: 
opensource-dev-boun...@lists.secondlife.com[mailto:opensource-dev-boun...@lists.secondlife.com]
 On Behalf Of LaurentBechirSent: Friday, November 18, 2011 7:29 
PMTo: opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.comSubject: 
[opensource-dev] Camera UI in Second Life beta viewer is brokenHello,I've
 opened a Jira about the camera in Second Life beta viewer since it is
 impossible to take pictures with it. I don't know if this jira has already
 been submitted, but there is something to do about that :https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-27652___Policies
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   	Laurent Bechir  
  19 novembre 2011 
03:29
  Hello,I've opened a
 Jira about the camera in Second Life beta viewer since it is 
impossible to take pictures with it. I don't know if this jira has already
 been submitted, but there is something to do about that :https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-27652___Policies
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Re: [opensource-dev] Camera UI in Second Life beta viewer is broken

[Laurent Bechir]

It seems my answer has not arrived. I send a new link to show what 
happens when I try to take pictures. The version of the viewer is  3.2.2
 (244666) Nov  8 2011 17:17:35 :



http://youtu.be/93JYlOwYjY0



the Jira is here :



https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-27652

 	   
   	Cinder Roxley  
  19 novembre 2011 
03:55
  Hi,The video 
linked in the jira doesn't work in my browser. I'm able to takesnapshots

 in all modes using the new snapshot workflow.Kind regards,Cinder

 Roxley-Original Message-From: 
opensource-dev-boun...@lists.secondlife.com[mailto:opensource-dev-boun...@lists.secondlife.com]
 On Behalf Of LaurentBechirSent: Friday, November 18, 2011 7:29 
PMTo: opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.comSubject:
 
[opensource-dev] Camera UI in Second Life beta viewer is brokenHello,I've

 opened a Jira about the camera in Second Life beta viewer since it is

 impossible to take pictures with it. I don't know if this jira has already

 been submitted, but there is something to do about that :https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-27652___Policies

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   	Laurent Bechir  
  19 novembre 2011 
03:29
  Hello,I've opened a
 Jira about the camera in Second Life beta viewer since it is 
impossible to take pictures with it. I don't know if this jira has already

 been submitted, but there is something to do about that :https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-27652___Policies

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Re: [opensource-dev] Camera UI in Second Life beta viewer is broken

[Laurent Bechir]

I did the refresh. The problem is not there. The problem is that when I 
click on a button (Save, Cancel, or another) the viewer react like if I 
was clicking behind it. For example, if the background of the picture 
window is the ground, clicking on a button is going to make move my 
avatar instead of the action the button is supposed to do. The is a 
turnaround for such buttons as Save to my inventory which consist on 
clicking on the part which is above the sidebar. But since Save and 
Cancel buttons are not above this part, they are unusable. I hope I'm 
more clear :)

https://skitch.com/laurentr2d2/gkybs/second-life

https://skitch.com/laurentr2d2/gkyb4/second-life

   	   
   	Cinder Roxley  
  20 novembre 2011 
04:09
  Hi, There's
 a little Refresh button (the itty bitty arrow that makes a circle.) You
 need to click that to refresh the picture, which
 will then make the Save button clickable again. Probably not ideal, but
 it works. In previous viewers, you neededto
 refresh the snapshot the same way anytime a setting was changed. Kind
 regards,Cinder
 Roxley From:
 opensource-dev-boun...@lists.secondlife.com 
[mailto:opensource-dev-boun...@lists.secondlife.com] On Behalf Of Laurent
 BechirSent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 8:00 PMTo:
 opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.comSubject: Re: 
[opensource-dev] Camera UI in Second Life beta viewer is broken It seems my 
answer has not arrived. I send a new link to show what happens when I 
try to take pictures. The version of the viewer is  3.2.2 (244666) Nov  8
 2011 17:17:35 :http://youtu.be/93JYlOwYjY0the
 Jira is here :https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-27652Cinder 
Roxley19 novembre 2011 03:55Hi,The video linked in the jira doesn't 
work in my browser. I'm able to takesnapshots in all modes using the
 new snapshot workflow.Kind regards,Cinder RoxleyLaurent
 Bechir19 novembre 2011 03:29Hello,I've opened a Jira about the camera
 in Second Life beta viewer since it is impossible to take pictures 
with it. I don't know if this jira has already been submitted, but 
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It seems my answer has not arrived. I send a new link to show what 
happens when I try to take pictures. The version of the viewer is  3.2.2
 (244666) Nov  8 2011 17:17:35 :



http://youtu.be/93JYlOwYjY0



the Jira is here :



https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-27652




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It seems my answer has not arrived. I send a new link to show what 
happens when I try to take pictures. The version of the viewer is  3.2.2
 (244666) Nov  8 2011 17:17:35 :

http://youtu.be/93JYlOwYjY0

the Jira is here :

https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-27652

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   	Cinder Roxley  
  19 novembre 2011 
03:55
  Hi,The video 
linked in the jira doesn't work in my browser. I'm able to takesnapshots
 in all modes using the new snapshot workflow.Kind regards,Cinder
 Roxley-Original Message-From: 
opensource-dev-boun...@lists.secondlife.com[mailto:opensource-dev-boun...@lists.secondlife.com]
 On Behalf Of LaurentBechirSent: Friday, November 18, 2011 7:29 
PMTo: opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.comSubject: 
[opensource-dev] Camera UI in Second Life beta viewer is brokenHello,I've
 opened a Jira about the camera in Second Life beta viewer since it is
 impossible to take pictures with it. I don't know if this jira has already
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  Hello,I've opened a
 Jira about the camera in Second Life beta viewer since it is 
impossible to take pictures with it. I don't

Re: [opensource-dev] Camera UI in Second Life beta viewer is broken

[Laurent Bechir]

It doesn't change the problem. In fact, the ground was just taken as 
example. The result is the same if I take a picture with the sky as 
background. The only reactive part of the window is the black left side.

   	   
   	WolfPup Lowenhar  
  20 novembre 2011 
04:36
  Ok from what you have 
said it sound like click to move is active in the preferences. As a work
 around in the preferences floater under move set single click on land 
to no action and double click on land to what eve you want it to do. Now
 this would be a ‘workarond. And not a true fix for the underlying issue
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I did the refresh. The problem is not there. The problem is that when I 
click on a button (Save, Cancel, or another) the viewer react like if I 
was clicking behind it. For example, if the background of the picture 
window is the ground, clicking on a button is going to make move my 
avatar instead of the action the button is supposed to do. The is a 
turnaround for such buttons as Save to my inventory which consist on 
clicking on the part which is above the sidebar. But since Save and 
Cancel buttons are not above this part, they are unusable. I hope I'm 
more clear :)

https://skitch.com/laurentr2d2/gkybs/second-life

https://skitch.com/laurentr2d2/gkyb4/second-life

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   	Cinder Roxley  
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04:09
  Hi, There's
 a little Refresh button (the itty bitty arrow that makes a circle.) You
 need to click that to refresh the picture, which
 will then make the Save button clickable again. Probably not ideal, but
 it works. In previous viewers, you neededto
 refresh the snapshot the same way anytime a setting was changed. Kind
 regards,Cinder
 Roxley From:
 opensource-dev-boun...@lists.secondlife.com 
[mailto:opensource-dev-boun...@lists.secondlife.com] On Behalf Of Laurent
 BechirSent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 8:00 PMTo:
 opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.comSubject: Re: 
[opensource-dev] Camera UI in Second Life beta viewer is broken It seems my 
answer has not arrived. I send a new link to show what happens when I 
try to take pictures. The version of the viewer is  3.2.2 (244666) Nov  8
 2011 17:17:35 :http://youtu.be/93JYlOwYjY0the
 Jira is here :https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-27652Cinder 
Roxley19 novembre 2011 03:55Hi,The video linked in the jira doesn't 
work in my browser. I'm able to takesnapshots in all modes using the
 new snapshot workflow.Kind regards,Cinder RoxleyLaurent
 Bechir19 novembre 2011 03:29Hello,I've opened a Jira about the camera
 in Second Life beta viewer since it is impossible to take pictures 
with it. I don't know if this jira has already been submitted, but 
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It seems my answer has not arrived. I send a new link to show what 
happens when I try to take pictures. The version of the viewer is  3.2.2
 (244666) Nov  8 2011 17:17:35 :



http://youtu.be/93JYlOwYjY0



the Jira is here :



https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-27652




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 (244666) Nov  8 2011 17:17:35 :

http://youtu.be/93JYlOwYjY0

the Jira is here :

https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-27652

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[opensource-dev] Build of Second Life with XCode 4.2

[Laurent Bechir]

Hello,

Is it possible to build Second Life with XCode 4.2 ? And if no, any plan 
to make it possible ?

Thank you and happy new year...
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Re: [opensource-dev] Errors while building SL viewer

[Laurent Bechir]

I've fixed this error. There was a line missing in llsdmessagereader.cpp :

default:// TypeLLSDTypeEnd, TypeLLSDNumTypes, etc.

at the end of the switch part line 270.

I have another error message :

ld: warning: directory 
'/Volumes/Maison/laurent/Documents/Secondlife/Kirsten/linden/build-darwin-i386/packages/lib/release/Release'
 following -L not found
ld: library not found for -lllconvexdecomposition
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
Command /Developer/usr/bin/g++-4.2 failed with exit code 1
hel

hacd-darwin-2030b for the libraries and the include files that I've put 
respectively in build-darwin-i386/packages/lib and 
build-darwin-i386/packages/include. I have 

kConvexDecomposition.h
llconvexdecomposition.h
ndConvexDecomposition.h

in include

libk_hacdConvexDecomposition.a
libnd_hacdConvexDecomposition.a

in lib

Is it the good files ? If yes, where should I put them to have them discovered 
by ld. If no, which version of convexdecomposition I should use in a third 
party build ?

Thank you

Le 29 avr. 2013 à 02:24, Laurent Bechir a écrit :

> 
> Hello,
> 
> I'm trying to build Kirten's viewer for my Mac and I get this error message :
> 
> llsdmessagereader.cpp:270: warning: enumeration value 'TypeLLSDNumTypes' not 
> handled in switch
> llsdmessagereader.cpp:270: warning: enumeration value 'TypeLLSDTypeEnd' not 
> handled in switch
> 
> I've tried to look in llsdmessagereader.cpp, llsdmessagereader.h, llsd.h and 
> llsd.cpp, but I don't know what to do to fix that error. Any idea, please ?
> 
> Thank you

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Re: [opensource-dev] Errors while building SL viewer

[Laurent Bechir]

Error message has changed, but here is still one message :

ld: warning: directory 
'/Volumes/Maison/laurent/Documents/Secondlife/Kirsten/linden/build-darwin-i386/packages/lib/release/Release'
 following -L not found
Undefined symbols:
  "HACD::HACD::HACD()", referenced from:
  LLConvexDecompositionImpl::genDecomposition(int&)in 
libllconvexdecomposition.a(LLConvexDecompositionStubImpl.o)
  LLConvexDecompositionImpl::genDecomposition(int&)in 
libllconvexdecomposition.a(LLConvexDecompositionStubImpl.o)
  "HACD::HACD::~HACD()", referenced from:
  LLConvexDecompositionImpl::deleteDecomposition(int)in 
libllconvexdecomposition.a(LLConvexDecompositionStubImpl.o)
ld: symbol(s) not found
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status

What I have done :

I've built llconvexdecomposition from : 

https://bitbucket.org/WolfpupL/llconvexdecompositionos/src

I've ended up with libllconvexdecompositionstub.a which I've put in 
packages/lib, packages/lib/release, and for the debug version in 
packages/lib/debug. Since it didn't work, I've made a copy of it and renamed it 
libllconvexdecomposition.a. Now I get this error message. Anyone to help me 
fullfill my dream of building this release on this beautiful May 1st day :)


Le 30 avr. 2013 à 22:58, Laurent Bechir a écrit :

> 
> I've fixed this error. There was a line missing in llsdmessagereader.cpp :
> 
> default:// TypeLLSDTypeEnd, TypeLLSDNumTypes, etc.
> 
> at the end of the switch part line 270.
> 
> I have another error message :
> 
> ld: library not found for -lllconvexdecomposition
> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> Command /Developer/usr/bin/g++-4.2 failed with exit code 1
> hel
> 
> hacd-darwin-2030b for the libraries and the include files that I've put 
> respectively in build-darwin-i386/packages/lib and 
> build-darwin-i386/packages/include. I have 
> 
> kConvexDecomposition.h
> llconvexdecomposition.h
> ndConvexDecomposition.h
> 
> in include
> 
> libk_hacdConvexDecomposition.a
> libnd_hacdConvexDecomposition.a
> 
> in lib
> 
> Is it the good files ? If yes, where should I put them to have them 
> discovered by ld. If no, which version of convexdecomposition I should use in 
> a third party build ?
> 
> Thank you
> 
> Le 29 avr. 2013 à 02:24, Laurent Bechir a écrit :
> 
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I'm trying to build Kirten's viewer for my Mac and I get this error message :
>> 
>> llsdmessagereader.cpp:270: warning: enumeration value 'TypeLLSDNumTypes' not 
>> handled in switch
>> llsdmessagereader.cpp:270: warning: enumeration value 'TypeLLSDTypeEnd' not 
>> handled in switch
>> 
>> I've tried to look in llsdmessagereader.cpp, llsdmessagereader.h, llsd.h and 
>> llsd.cpp, but I don't know what to do to fix that error. Any idea, please ?
>> 
>> Thank you
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[opensource-dev] Is the Cocoa project still alive ?

[Laurent Bechir]

Hello,

I haven't seen any new build of the Cocoa Project viewer since 02-28, and the 
last one freezes on startup on my Macbook Air with Mountain Lion 10.8.3. 

2013-05-11T17:10:22Z WARNING: initViewer: Application init failed.
2013-05-11T17:10:22Z INFO: unix_post_minidump_callback: generated minidump: 
/tmp/C87252A0-34CD-4BF1-BF3E-CA344FA51F9B.dmp
2013-05-11T17:10:22Z INFO: handleViewerCrash: Handle viewer crash entry.
2013-05-11T17:10:22Z INFO: handleViewerCrash: Last render pool type: 0

Is this project still maintained ? If yes, how should I report this problem on 
the Jira. Is there a special section for Alternates viewers ?

Thank you
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Re: [opensource-dev] Is the Cocoa project still alive ?

[Laurent Bechir]

It works, thank you. In fact, I didn't replaced the argument file, I've just 
removed its content which was :

--channel "Project Viewer - Cocoa" --grid aditi --helperuri 
http://preview-aditi.secondlife.com/helpers/ --settings 
settings_aditi_projectviewer-cocoa.xml

which means that it was meant to connect to aditi when I've put Agni in my 
settings. That's perhaps why it was freezing. Is "--channel "Project Viewer - 
Cocoa"" a mandatory argument ?


Le 11 mai 2013 à 22:38, Argent Stonecutter  a écrit :

> On 2013-05-11, at 12:15, Laurent Bechir  wrote:
>> I haven't seen any new build of the Cocoa Project viewer since 02-28, and 
>> the last one freezes on startup on my Macbook Air with Mountain Lion 10.8.3. 
> 
> I think replacing the arguments.txt file with the one from the original fixes 
> the crash on startup. It did for me.
> 

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Re: [opensource-dev] Is the Cocoa project still alive ?

[Laurent Bechir]

I guess something went wrong, since your message is empty

Le 12 mai 2013 à 08:19, Paul Hanson  a écrit :

> On May 12, 2013 12:57 AM, "Laurent Bechir"  wrote:
> 
> It works, thank you. In fact, I didn't replaced the argument file, I've just 
> removed its content which was :
> 
> --channel "Project Viewer - Cocoa" --grid aditi --helperuri 
> http://preview-aditi.secondlife.com/helpers/ --settings 
> settings_aditi_projectviewer-cocoa.xml
> 
> which means that it was meant to connect to aditi when I've put Agni in my 
> settings. That's perhaps why it was freezing. Is "--channel "Project Viewer - 
> Cocoa"" a mandatory argument ?
> 
> 
> Le 11 mai 2013 à 22:38, Argent Stonecutter  a écrit :
> 
> > On 2013-05-11, at 12:15, Laurent Bechir  wrote:
> >> I haven't seen any new build of the Cocoa Project viewer since 02-28, and 
> >> the last one freezes on startup on my Macbook Air with Mountain Lion 
> >> 10.8.3.
> >
> > I think replacing the arguments.txt file with the one from the original 
> > fixes the crash on startup. It did for me.
> >
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[opensource-dev] Bug report on white artifacts and materials viewer without assignee

[Laurent Bechir]

Hello,

I'd like to know if someone is taking care of these bug reports :

https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/MATBUG-216

https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/MATBUG-171

https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/MATBUG-197

I can't use materials viewer 3.6 new features because of that, and I see no 
assignee for the moment. That's why I'm asking :)

Thank you
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[opensource-dev] Leapmotion and Second Life

[Laurent Bechir]

Hello,

I'm curious to know from a developer point of view if this technology can be 
used in Second Life ?

https://www.leapmotion.com

Thank you
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Re: [opensource-dev] Leapmotion and Second Life

[Laurent Bechir]

Thank you for the URL. It seems interesting, but quite difficult to use :). 
From what I see, keyboard, mouse and trackpad seem to still be easier to use. 

Le 25 juin 2013 à 16:51, "Inara Pey"  a écrit :

> See:
> 
> http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Featured-News/Reaching-into-Second-Life-with-Leap-Motion/ba-p/1861205
> 
> 
>  
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Laurent Bechir
>> Sent: 06/25/13 02:20 PM
>> To: Opensource Development List
>> Subject: [opensource-dev] Leapmotion and Second Life
>>  
>> Hello, 
>> 
>> I'm curious to know from a developer point of view if this technology can be 
>> used in Second Life ? 
>> 
>> https://www.leapmotion.com 
>> 
>> Thank you 
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Re: [opensource-dev] fmodapi375mac.zip or alternative?

[Laurent Bechir]

Here it is :

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/51818/fmodapi375mac.zip



> Le 13 avr. 2015 à 09:40, Chris Nelson  a écrit :
> 
> So I have managed to get the sl viewer compiling and running. Only problem 
> now is I have no sound:(
> 
> It seems fmod no longer hosts fmodapi375mac.zip, and the link from the OS X 
> build instructions 
> (http://cid-6a2f42d7b470f408.office.live.com/browse.aspx/Public/Second%20Life 
> )
>  no longer exists. 
> 
> Is it still possible to get fmodapi375mac.zip?
> 
> Or are there any other alternatives for getting sound working in the sl 
> viewer?
> 
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[opensource-dev] Mac OS X Metal support

[Laurent Bechir]

Hello

Do you have some plan concerning the support of Metal in the viewer ?

Thank you
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[opensource-dev] FMOD 3.75 not available

[Laurent Bechir]

Hello,

It seems that fmod 3.75 is not available anymore on fmod.org website. What do 
you use to build the sources of the viewer ?

Thank you
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Re: [opensource-dev] Open Viewer Development Announcement

[Laurent Bechir]

Bryon Ruxton a écrit :

Mike,

First of all, I said "us" in the context of those, like Henri, who 
hate the sidebar. As for "we" in general,
it is the majority who says they hate or dislike viewer 2.0  as 
indicated by multiple polls
or articles like the following, justifying the word "we" (i.e. the 
overall majority of Residents who gave their opinion):


http://www.questionpro.com/akira/ShowResults?id=1604314&mode=data 


(75% disliking or hating the sidebar here.)
http://blogs.secondlife.com/poll.jspa?poll=1017
http://blogs.secondlife.com/poll.jspa?poll=1018
http://polldaddy.com/poll/3048677/?view=results
http://nwn.blogs.com/nwn/2010/03/20-not-increasing-growth.html

Thus it's not my personal feelings. I check my facts before I say 
something.




When I look at the polls and I see figures like 1489 (max), 508, 367 or 
75 participants, and that I compare those figures to the number of 
people connecting to SecondLife every day, I think that those polls 
represent more a little community in SL than the majority and that since 
it is the only one who talk, they make a lot of noise (in forum on other 
matters I also see more unhappy people talking than happy ones who 
generally remain silent, which make that they are not really 
representative for me). Also,it should be interesting to deepen the 
arguments of the voters against viewer 2 in those polls. The first one I 
read concerns the inventory which load slowly. I think that this kind of 
problem concern optimizing the code more than the whole viewer in 
itself. Problems like "I would like such or such feature", "This button 
is not at the good place", ... are more relevant.
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Re: [opensource-dev] Please - enough about the CA

[Laurent Bechir]

Argent Stonecutter a écrit :

On 2010-08-19, at 04:09, Gareth Nelson wrote:
   

>  None of those projects have an agreement that allows proprietary versions
 


I think Qt has LGPL and proprietary licensing now.
   


You're right :

http://qt.nokia.com/downloads
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Re: [opensource-dev] Draw Distance

[Laurent Bechir]

Marine Kelley a écrit :
> Please be careful not to screw up debug settings that must NOT be 
> changed. Some are capital for the viewer to function normally, and 
> would completely shut out users who don't know how to change them back 
> offline, and to what.

Wouldn't it be possible to have an argument "default" like this for 
example :

/set debugvar default

which would put back the debugvar to its default value ?
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Re: [opensource-dev] This is how Linden Lab treats it's customers...

[Laurent Bechir]

Argent Stonecutter a écrit :

What if the account doesn't own land, or has nothing but the original 512 
square meters in something like a Linden Home?

That's the majority case.

An account in that situation is not*in default*  when they skip a payment, 
because the account payment itself is not made in arrears.
   


I used to have a premium account once upon a while. Not using it really 
(no land associated to the account) and being short of money, I didn't 
renew. The only thing that happened is that I'm back as a basic member 
now. So I don't see where is the problem :)
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Re: [opensource-dev] This is how Linden Lab treats it's customers...

[Laurent Bechir]

Argent Stonecutter a écrit :

On 2010-08-29, at 09:37, Laurent Bechir wrote:
   

>  I used to have a premium account once upon a while. Not using it really (no 
land associated to the account) and being short of money, I didn't renew. The only 
thing that happened is that I'm back as a basic member now. So I don't see where 
is the problem:)
 


Are you sure you didn't at any point select "downgrade to basic" on the web 
page?

If that's the case, and I'd like LL confirmation of that, then there is no 
problem.


Now that you tell me that, effectively, I must have asked do downgrade 
to basic at the end of my subscription
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[opensource-dev] New features in beta version of today... ?

[Laurent Bechir]

Hello,

Is there new features in this week version of 2.2 beta viewer like there 
was last week  or is it just bug fixes this time ? Im' trying to do 
videos in french to show the new features when they are some :)

Thank you
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Re: [opensource-dev] New features in beta version of today... ?

[Laurent Bechir]

Elenia a écrit :

hello

here you are an abstract on the new features of 2.2 beta viewer in french
http://forums.jeuxonline.info/showpost.php?p=21418763&postcount=1



Thank you. In fact I've already put these in a first video :

http://youtu.be/OfHz-CuzcOI?hd=1

I just missed the double click teleport feature. It will be in a next 
one. I was wondering if 2.2 will have other features added before its 
release.
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[opensource-dev] Where do I ask for a feature ?

[Laurent Bechir]

Hello,

Where do I ask for a feature ? Should I open a Jira ? Mine is not a big 
one, it's just a check box in the confirmation window which arise when I 
share an object with someone to have the possibility to disable it like 
I can with other windows (teleport, ...)

Thank you
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Re: [opensource-dev] Where do I ask for a feature ?

[Laurent Bechir]

Sarah (Esbee) Hutchinson a écrit :
> Hi Laurent,
>
> To request a feature, simply log into https://jira.secondlife.com/ and 
> click the "Create Issue" button in the upper right-hand corner of the 
> page. The project will be VWR and your issue type is "Feature Request".
>
> Once you submit it, we'll pick it up in triage and review!
>
> Best,
> Esbee
>
>

Done : https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-23681

with another one concerning Notifications :

https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-23682
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[opensource-dev] Dynamic shadows and ATI

[Laurent Bechir]

Hello,

Anyone can tell me when Dynamic shadows will support ATI card, please ? 
I'm actually wondering what is the best if I want to use them, change my 
ATI for a Nvidia or wait it's supported.

Thank you
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Re: [opensource-dev] Dynamic shadows and ATI

[Laurent Bechir]

Rob Nelson a écrit :
> You're better off getting a new card, since the card doesn't support
> dynamic shadows, not the other way around.
>
> Rob

Is it a hardware problem of ATI or just a software problem that can be 
solved by SL developers ?
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Re: [opensource-dev] Dynamic shadows and ATI

[Laurent Bechir]

Dave Booth a écrit :

On 11/13/2010 06:04, Laurent Bechir wrote:

Is it a hardware problem of ATI or just a software problem that can be
solved by SL developers ?


ATIs drivers have bugs - ATI + OpenGL FBOs = crash or render artifacts
or both.



Who is responsible in that case ? Apple or ATI/AMD ? Because if there is 
no solution for this problem, Mac computers will not have dynamic 
shadows before a long time since they are all shipped with ATI cards. So 
I'd like to try to contact the support of the one in charge and see if 
something can be done.



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Re: [opensource-dev] Dynamic shadows and ATI

[Laurent Bechir]

Geenz Spad a écrit :
> Your best bet is to complain directly to Apple with a repro case.  The 
> mesh beta viewer seems  to fix the FBO issues on OS X.  AFAIK, AMD 
> only writes the hardware drivers for their cards on OS X, Apple 
> handles the OpenGL bits and pieces across both AMD and Nvidia hardware.

Done. I've tried to be the clearest I could, but If you think something 
should be explained better, tell me. Perhaps I can fix that from my 
Apple account. In fact, it's my first bug report with Apple :)


Problem ID: 8685718

Bug with ATI driver and OpenGL Frame Buffer Object (FBO)

19-Nov-2010 12:57 AM laurent Rathle:
Summary:

When I try to use Dynamic shadows in Second Life, the best I can get is 
strange artefacts on my screen  and even sometimes not only the viewer 
crashes, but my Mac Pro can freeze to obliging me to force stop it.

Steps to Reproduce:

Download Second Life viewer : http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Mesh
Click Cmd+Shift+G and choose Agni in the list
Connect your avatar
In the settings (Cmd+P) choose Graphics tab and check the box in front 
of "Lightings and shadows"

Expected Results:

You should have dynamic shadows, which means shadows following the 
movements of the avatar, and changing during the day.

Actual Results:

Sometimes you get strange artefacts on the screen. Sometimes the viewer 
crashes. Some time it's the computer which freeze.

Regression:

Notes:

Dynamic shadows work perfectly well using Nvidia cards. The problem only 
occurs with ATI driver. This problem stops the mac community of Second 
Life to enjoy the best of this environment.
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Re: [opensource-dev] Dynamic shadows and ATI

[Laurent Bechir]

Trilo Byte a écrit :
> Side note, Dave's comment about all Macs shipping with ATI cards is 
> inaccurate.  Something approaching 3/4 of the units sold over the last 
> few years have been portables, and all the portables since at least 
> late 2008 have had nVidia graphics.

As you say  it'been for the last few years, and not all models, since my 
Macbook Pro 2006 has ATI. I guess what  Dave was talking about is people 
buying their computer now.
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Re: [opensource-dev] Test these features....

[Laurent Bechir]

Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) a écrit :
> We have three pending features ready for testing and feedback now...
>
> https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Downloading_test_builds#Developer_Builds
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I have tried Configuration of movement vs chat keys and movement submenu 
on a Macbook Pro core2duo/Ati 1600xt / Snow Leopard 10.6.5 and it works 
fine. I don't know how to try LSL feature not being a developer :) The 
only problem I had was with the viewer which didn't go above 1,5 fps 
framerate,but tonight Kirstens doesn't go above 6 fps, I  don't know why.
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Re: [opensource-dev] Dynamic shadows and ATI

[Laurent Bechir]

Laurent Bechir a écrit :
> Being an ATI fanboy I had to pull the full brunt of the bad opengl 
> support and it has changed my mind about their software side. The 
> support for OpenGL had been stiffled ever since OpenGL had lost the 
> lead starting in 2007 or so. One of the examples that affected my 
> ability to use OpenGL applications and that started my research into 
> the drivers was from the game Love, 
> http://www.gaminglove.net/forums/f11/fixed-white-planet-issue-465/ where 
> I found a certain change in the OpenGL implementations in the drivers 
> that started exhibiting a severe glitch.
>
> Thankfully I have moved on with a new computer and a nVidia card 
> (regretfully) instead, I have never had a three digit FPS before in SL.
>
> It most definitely comes from the side of ATI, they just seem to 
> refuse to fix the buggy OpenGL implementation. If only the drivers 
> were as good as the hardware then they would pretty much dominate the 
> market.
>

Perhaps Linden should put something like "You will have a better 
experience with Second Life if you choose NVidia graphic card". I know 
it's quite stupid, but from what I've read there is not a chance that we 
get good support for ATI cards and dynamic shadows which is quite 
disapointing.
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