[opensource-dev] Replacement for QuickTime media plugin

2016-05-24 Thread Brent Racobs 
At some point your going to have to say good by to Mac OS and Linux. Or
just do what we have been doing for 10 years. Build for the X86_64
I have built the SL viewer standalone many times and kept it up
but the latest changes are so ridiculous pump out code that has no
real meaning for a multi core cpu's is a real shame.
I wonder why Linden Labs would even spend any money on such
ancient ideas.
We have already done all the hard work for you LL.
Do they still make i686 cpu's today.
Ok it is 2016. it is time for SL to just close up and go away.
 Or find the motivation to compile in 64 bit. For than a 64 bit emulator.
Any way keep pumping it out. Keep collecting that pay check OZ.


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Re: [opensource-dev] opensource-dev Digest, Vol 78, Issue 20

2017-01-19 Thread Brent Racobs 
autobuild is pretty lost OZ looking at it. It must be the linux part. Oh
whats linux.  looking at your 1.1 commits scratch my head. Then looks at
build.sh wonders how that commit could do anything. pretty vacant commit
what am I missing.

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> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 10:03:06 -0500
> From: Nat Goodspeed 
> Subject: Re: [opensource-dev] 64 bit viewers build instructions
> To: Nicky Perian 
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> On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 6:47 AM, Nicky Perian 
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> > https://bitbucket.org/lindenlab/p64_3p-openjpeg/pull-requests/2
> >
> > Please take this in and then provide for the updated archives in the
> viewer. I also received a report that the missing texture issue is in macOS
> when using openjpeg-1.5.1.
>
> There are admittedly painful aspects to the two-step autobuild
> mechanism: (1) rebuild the 3p package and (2) update every consumer.
>
> However, one of the benefits of that approach is that we can adjust
> the version of a given 3p package consumed by (e.g.) the viewer
> without actually having to revert the 3p repository source. We can
> just change back the package URL specified in the viewer's
> autobuild.xml.
>
> > Or, if the problem with 1.5.1 is easily corrected
>
> Please forgive me if this should already be on my plate, but I don't
> recall a Jira about the openjpeg 1.5.1 issues? Does 1.5.1 fail to load
> texture files that are correctly handled by 1.5.0?
>
> I think Cinder has a point: if we can move forward with 1.5.1, we should.
>
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> We?ve had OpenJPEG 1.5.1 running solidly on Alchemy for years now. I can
> put together some patches to get it working.
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> Nat Goodspeed  erian  wrote:
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> > https://bitbucket.org/lindenlab/p64_3p-openjpeg/pull-requests/2
> >
> > Please take this in and then provide for the updated archives in the
> viewer. I also received a report that the missing texture issue is in macOS
> when using openjpeg-1.5.1.
>
> There are admittedly painful aspects to the two-step autobuild
> mechanism: (1) rebuild the 3p package and (2) update every consumer.
>
> However, one of the benefits of that approach is that we can adjust
> the version of a given 3p package consumed by (e.g.) the viewer
> without actually having to revert the 3p repository source. We can
> just change back the package URL specified in the viewer's
> autobuild.xml.
>
> > Or, if the problem with 1.5.1 is easily corrected
>
> Please forgive me if this should already be on my plate, but I don't
> recall a Jira about the openjpeg 1.5.1 issues? Does 1.5.1 fail to load
>
> texture files that are correctly handled by 1.5.0?
>
> I think Cinder has a point: if we can move forward with 1.5.1, we should.
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Re: [opensource-dev] opensource-dev Digest, Vol 78, Issue 26

2017-02-11 Thread Brent Racobs 
On Jan 31, 2017 2:00 PM, 
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> On 2017-01-30 12:41 , Nicky D. wrote:
> >> For the time being, we expect that it will be based on the current
> system,
> >> modified to use system libraries rather than autobuild packages that
> build a
> >> static executable (some packages will be used in our builds for
> proprietary
> >> components).  I'm not sure that answers your question...
> >>
> > This is the old Squeeze based Debian?
> No, we're going to leapfrog to Jessie for this.
>
> >> Granted, *.deb is a much used package manager for debian and derived
> >> distros. Will any other distro package managers be developed? I assume
> the
> >> answer is no so, will OS developer submissions of other package manager
> >> formats be accepted?
> >>
> >> Let's worry about getting one to work... if we're wildly successful with
> >> that and there's a good reason to do something else, we'll discuss it.
> > I'm not sure yet what to make out of this change, as we possible need
> > to see a deb to see
> > about some of the consequences. Just a few thoughts:
> >
> > - Standalone is afaik broken since a long time, for example there is
> > missing FindXXX.cmake
> > files for various packages.
> >
> > - As far as I know are there no system packages for (at least) glod,
> > colladadom, breakpad and cef.
> >
> > - Some distributions only ship openjpeg2, not 1.4 or 1.5 (for example
> > I cannot find anything older than 2
> > for Debian Wheezy). Possibly this can be worked around with non
> > standard deb repositories in apt.conf.
> >
> > - Compiling the deb eg on Squeeze and trying to install it on
> > something Wheezy based could lead to
> > interesting results, due to the dependent packages from the Squeeze
> > system being recorded in the deb.
> > (Or compiling on Wheezy and installing on Jessie and so on).
> >
> > - VLC: Henri pointed out a few times, that the VLC api is not exactly
> > stable between releases.
> >
> > - Boost will be interesting
>
> Well, if it was easy it wouldn't be any fun, would it?
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> Are you all aware of the Apple maintained opensource libraries already
> included in macOS that you also maintain and use in the viewer?  Examples
> are libexpat, pcre, openAL, hunspell and openssl.
>
> It might be easier to build the macOS version of the viewer with these
> libraries, rather than spend (a lot of) effort on maintaining them for
> macOS on your own.
>
> Opensource that is included in every version of macOS is listed on
> https://opensource.apple.com  with code to
> be downloaded.
>
>
> In addition there are the system framework image handling dylibs in
> /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Fra
> meworks/ImageIO.framework/Resources/
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> Cheers,
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Re: [opensource-dev] opensource-dev Digest, Vol 79, Issue 7

2017-02-12 Thread Brent Racobs 
OH well some one gets paid to complicate stuff. To me it is a rip off to
linden labs. the 64 bit viewer was done a long time ago rest is stroking
some scripts. No respect for the wheel I see.

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> > >> For the time being, we expect that it will be based on the current
> > system,
> > >> modified to use system libraries rather than autobuild packages that
> > build a
> > >> static executable (some packages will be used in our builds for
> > proprietary
> > >> components).  I'm not sure that answers your question...
> > >>
> > > This is the old Squeeze based Debian?
> > No, we're going to leapfrog to Jessie for this.
> >
> > >> Granted, *.deb is a much used package manager for debian and derived
> > >> distros. Will any other distro package managers be developed? I assume
> > the
> > >> answer is no so, will OS developer submissions of other package
> manager
> > >> formats be accepted?
> > >>
> > >> Let's worry about getting one to work... if we're wildly successful
> with
> > >> that and there's a good reason to do something else, we'll discuss it.
> > > I'm not sure yet what to make out of this change, as we possible need
> > > to see a deb to see
> > > about some of the consequences. Just a few thoughts:
> > >
> > > - Standalone is afaik broken since a long time, for example there is
> > > missing FindXXX.cmake
> > > files for various packages.
> > >
> > > - As far as I know are there no system packages for (at least) glod,
> > > colladadom, breakpad and cef.
> > >
> > > - Some distributions only ship openjpeg2, not 1.4 or 1.5 (for example
> > > I cannot find anything

Re: [opensource-dev] opensource-dev Digest, Vol 77, Issue 13

2017-03-18 Thread Brent Racobs 
that's  great nat glad you have taken 10 years of our open source work with
linux and are happy with windoze.
Any  other way you want to build a lib and then link them and break 10
years of work OZ and get paid for it.
You think you could complicate this build a little more for the people that
actually did what your doing 10 years ago.
Come on Callum  and OZ stop complicating how we build and link. and fix
your crap.


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> > AUTOBUILD_VARIABLES_FILE=C:\Users\Bill\P64\viewer-build-
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> > has been set system wide.
> > Within my configure script (a windows batch file) is autobuild
> > source_environment and
> > autobuild configure
> >
> > I configure then open vs2013 and the errors continue as before.
>
> I'll make the CMake logic die with an error if it doesn't see the
> LL_BUILD environment variable. That will at least be less obscure than
> "unexpected type 'S'", and may help identify the problem you're
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