Re: [opensource-dev] display names = the end of 1.x viewers?
On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 16:04:19 -0700, Kelly Linden wrote: > 'Resident' is just the final last name, and is treated specially on new > viewers to be hidden from view when displayed. So new users won't have the choice of picking a last name anymore? Isn't that going to severely limit the number of names possible now? ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] vehicles got some problem ?
On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 10:39:36 +0900, Rustam Rakhimov wrote: > Hi VW developers [developers are future] > > > I want to ask you question about vehicles > > As I know vehicles got some problem in OpenSim isn't it ? > > so is there any news about Vehicles in Opensim. I want it to run some > car script on OpenSim You're probably better off asking this question over on the the mailing list or forums that are OpenSimulator related. I believe Nebadon Izumi on OSgrid might have some helpful input on the subject over on the OSgrid forums. ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] Open Inventory Transfer
On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 17:25:05 -0700, Ricky wrote: > Well, she was recently instructed by my dad (an advanced user like > myself) to send him a notecard she was editing. She asked how. My dad > instructed her to "drag it to the IM window." This she knew how to > find. She then complained that it didn't work. This brought me to look > at what she was doing. She was trying to drag the notecard edit window > onto the chat popup to send him the notecard. Sounds like your mom might also be relatively inexperienced with working with subwindows as well. However, the instructions given to her could have been slightly more clear as well; "drag it to the IM window from your inventory" might have worked better. > Because of this, I would like to put forth the suggestion for further > study of allowing the user to drag asset windows (notecards, textures, > etc.) onto the varied existing ways of sending content. (IMs, Profile > pages, etc) How would you differentiate someone trying to reorganize subwindows within a viewer with inventory transfer events, then? I think that problem makes this suggestion entirely unworkable in practice. ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] display names = the end of 1.x viewers?
On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 10:15:14 -0700, Daniel Smith wrote: > I'll ask the Lindens a direct question: > > What will you do to prevent others from using my username as their > displayname? I'm going to hazard to guess the answer is "nothing." If anything, this brings SL into better parity with the real world, where many people might have the same name. ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] display names = the end of 1.x viewers?
On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 16:53:18 -0700, Daniel Smith wrote: > On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 3:28 PM, Baloo Uriza > wrote: > >> On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 10:15:14 -0700, Daniel Smith wrote: >> >> > I'll ask the Lindens a direct question: >> > >> > What will you do to prevent others from using my username as their >> > displayname? >> >> I'm going to hazard to guess the answer is "nothing." If anything, >> this brings SL into better parity with the real world, where many >> people might have the same name. >> >> > Thanks for playing. Just sign up last week? Given that my last name is Uriza and Display Names aren't rolled out yet to my knowledge, I believe it's clear I did not. > If they do nothing, situations will occur that will end up in court. > Bet on it. Sure, but even if that's the case, I can't fathom a single situation (other than a Linden employee abusing Display Names) that would cause the Lindens to be named as a defendant (and not get laughed out of court by the judge). ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] display names = the end of 1.x viewers?
On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 19:42:37 -0700, Bryon Ruxton wrote: > On 8/19/10 7:20 PM, "Argent Stonecutter" > wrote: > >> On 2010-08-19, at 14:09, Michael Schlenker wrote: >>> Its a special case of the general case, i didn't check but I'm pretty >>> sure 'Agent Smith' is taken by someone. If it is and you had your way >>> it would not be possible to use that name. >> >> Yes. So? > Argent, Keep in mind once the feature is implemented: One will be able > to choose "Captain America" with captain.america becoming his unique > username. Actually, not quite, based on what I saw in Torley's video. I could change my display name to "Captain America," but my unique username would still be baloo.uriza. ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] Open Inventory Transfer
On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 17:56:29 -0700, Ricky wrote:
> Very good question, and was the reason for my note bout accidental
> inventory transfers.
>
> The solution I alluded to was to pop up an "are you sure" style dialog
> box. However, I hate those with a passion. So I'm fishing for more
> optimal solutions. It is possible there may be no good solution to this
> difficulty, but at least it will have been discussed, and may spawn
> other improvements or be revisited later.
Yeah, molly guards tend to be a stopgap for a bad design decision firmly
engrained in the interface. A good example of too many molly guards
would be Outlook, where people ignore them to the point of just clicking
yes to a dialogue effectively asking them "Are you sure you want to send
that obscene joke to all 2500 employees in the company?" (I have seen
this happen, it caused Exchange to just about die under the pressure, and
the resulting drama eventually became known long after the source was
terminated for epic fail of schadenfreude proportions at that company.)
If it /has/ to work in a way that could become a gun, then it's better to
let the user shoot themselves in the foot than it is to become annoying
("rm" comes to mind as as a gun, and one that grows in size depending on
the target and flags used; the GUI equivalent uses a trash folder as a
safety in most environments).
But, given that there's already several workable way to transfer items
between avatars, I'm not sure we need to be turning subwindows into
guns. ;o)
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Re: [opensource-dev] display names = the end of 1.x viewers?
On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 15:33:25 +1000, Tateru Nino wrote: > Marvel (back before they had Disney's legion of undead lawyers) sued > NCsoft over City of Heroes, because the character creator allowed users > to create avatars that had similar likenesses to or similar names to > Marvel trademarks. NCsoft eventually capitulated and settled. Sure, but that was NCsoft, not some fan of NCsoft. ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] Display names, again.
On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 09:22:30 +0200, Lance Corrimal wrote: > On Friday 20 August 2010 08:44:47 Tateru Nino wrote: >> Forwarding your questions through the PR channels, Lance. Although, >> from the documentation provided by the Lab so far, the answer to >> question one is 'no'. > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiding_and_abetting ??? Common carrier. ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] Display names, again.
On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 12:15:12 +0200, Marine Kelley wrote: > The damage done to the reputation of a well known resident can be > immeasurable. It would be irresponsible of LL to let someone impersonate > someone else without giving any way to let the other people around to > see CLEARLY the difference between a user name and a display name. If you have watched Torley's video, you can see that you can clearly tell the difference between the display name and the avatar's real name. > No > amount of ToS waving and legal threatening is going to change that > because once the damage is done, it is too late. It is CAPITAL that a > display name CANNOT be mistaken with a user name, no matter how clever > the owner of the display name is. No amount of technology can overcome the ignorance of a sufficiently qualified moron. Or, to put it another way, "you can't fix stupid." It's not even worth the effort to try to fix stupid. Or to put that another way, "stupid is as stupid does." ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] Off-topic chatter (Was: Display names, again.)
On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 08:16:04 -0500, Jacek Antonelli wrote: > On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 1:38 AM, Lance Corrimal > wrote: >> Is it just me or did the lindens stop replying to this topic? > > They probably stopped replying because nearly all of the chatter about > Display Names has been off-topic and inappropriate for this list, and > continuing to discuss it here just further wastes the time of everyone > who subscribed to the list to follow the discussion about Snowglobe, > Snowstorm, and other open source projects at Linden Lab. Or asking the same stupid questions Torley answered in his video. Yes, anybody can set their display name to anything. Yes, you will still be able to tell an avatar's real name. In the real world you have name collisions; consider this as adding realism. ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] display names = the end of 1.x viewers?
On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 20:08:07 -0400, mysticaldemina-ZcVvBWsY3orQT0dZR+AlfA wrote: > And your login account isn't public so you have better security. Your login account will still be visible in the profile, and during transactions. ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] Display names, again.
On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 12:20:38 -0700, Daniel Smith wrote: > On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) < > o...@lindenlab.com> wrote: > >> Actually, I think that the answers to your questions are clear from >> the published material, Lance, but here... >> >> > 1. Will there be procedures in place to prevent someone else to use >> > my true avatar name as their display name? >> >> No. >> >> > Wrong answer. I think the Lindens are underestimating the legal fallout > that will ensue when names are abused. People are stating loud and > clear what they want. Are you guys deaf? I think you're severely overestimating the sanctimony about this issue from people who aren't you. > I am a former Linden (contractor, 3 months in 2006). Yeah, good luck ever doing that again with that attitude. ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] Malicious payloads in third-party viewers: is the policy worth anything?
On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 15:04:16 +0100, Thomas Grimshaw wrote: > Loading 1mb of content per user is hardly a denial of service attack. > Crosslinking occurs everywhere on the web, this is simply nothing but > paranoid bull. icmp echo requests can be a denial of service attack, and we're talking very small requests. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smurf_attack ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
