[opensource-dev] Not all Open Source developers are honest...

2013-06-01 Thread Henri Beauchamp
I'm pissed off !

Here's why: http://sldev.free.fr/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1230

Henri.
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Re: [opensource-dev] Not all Open Source developers are honest...

2013-06-01 Thread Martin Fürholz
Hi Henri,
I'm curious:
why are you posting a link to this mailinglist about a 4+ year old incident?

MartinRJ

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From: Henri Beauchamp
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To: opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com
Subject: [opensource-dev] Not all Open Source developers are honest...

I'm pissed off !

Here's why: http://sldev.free.fr/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1230

Henri.
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Re: [opensource-dev] Not all Open Source developers are honest...

2013-06-01 Thread Henri Beauchamp
On Sat, 1 Jun 2013 18:40:16 +0200, Martin Fürholz wrote:

> Hi Henri,
> I'm curious:
> why are you posting a link to this mailinglist about a 4+ year old incident?

It is 15 days old, not 4 years old...
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Re: [opensource-dev] Not all Open Source developers are honest...

2013-06-01 Thread Niran
Hehe, Henri, i really appreciate how you literally punch and kick everyone
(especially those who deserve it), ofcourse you have a reason.
Continue it, it makes me all <3 and ♥


2013/6/1 Henri Beauchamp 

> On Sat, 1 Jun 2013 18:40:16 +0200, Martin Fürholz wrote:
>
> > Hi Henri,
> > I'm curious:
> > why are you posting a link to this mailinglist about a 4+ year old
> incident?
>
> It is 15 days old, not 4 years old...
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Re: [opensource-dev] Not all Open Source developers are honest...

2013-06-01 Thread Robert Martin
i see the confusion the date stamp for the message is all the way at the
bottom left
2013-06-01 16:22:34


On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Henri Beauchamp  wrote:

> On Sat, 1 Jun 2013 18:40:16 +0200, Martin Fürholz wrote:
>
> > Hi Henri,
> > I'm curious:
> > why are you posting a link to this mailinglist about a 4+ year old
> incident?
>
> It is 15 days old, not 4 years old...
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Re: [opensource-dev] Not all Open Source developers are honest...

2013-06-01 Thread Nicky Perian
A suggestion:
Move your code into a git or hg repository where credit is with each commit.
Of course someone intent on taking without credit can diff the commit and apply 
without crediting the source.





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> 
>
>I'm pissed off !
>
>Here's why: http://sldev.free.fr/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1230
>
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Re: [opensource-dev] Not all Open Source developers are honest...

2013-06-01 Thread Martin Fürholz
Ah! I misread the “joined” date on that forum page as the “posted” date, 
this happens all the time :D
I’m sorry, last time that I’ve heard anything about Kirstenlee’s viewer was 
a couple of years ago, and S19 is also a couple of years old, as far as I 
can tell (and I’m pretty sure about that). See 
http://virtyou.com/viewer_track/ as a proof (Kirstenlee’s viewer “S20” was 
built in 2010).
MartinRJ

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- 
From: Henri Beauchamp
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2013 6:46 PM
To: opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com
Subject: Re: [opensource-dev] Not all Open Source developers are honest...

On Sat, 1 Jun 2013 18:40:16 +0200, Martin Fürholz wrote:

> Hi Henri,
> I'm curious:
> why are you posting a link to this mailinglist about a 4+ year old 
> incident?

It is 15 days old, not 4 years old...
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Re: [opensource-dev] Not all Open Source developers are honest...

2013-06-01 Thread Niran
Thing is, Henri said Kirsten did just take his code to update his dead
Viewer to make it compatible with stuff again without mentioning him in any
way, going to far that (nearly) all traces of Henri are removed.


2013/6/1 Martin Fürholz 

> Ah! I misread the “joined” date on that forum page as the “posted” date,
> this happens all the time :D
> I’m sorry, last time that I’ve heard anything about Kirstenlee’s viewer was
> a couple of years ago, and S19 is also a couple of years old, as far as I
> can tell (and I’m pretty sure about that). See
> http://virtyou.com/viewer_track/ as a proof (Kirstenlee’s viewer “S20” was
> built in 2010).
> MartinRJ
>
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> From: Henri Beauchamp
> Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2013 6:46 PM
> To: opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com
> Subject: Re: [opensource-dev] Not all Open Source developers are honest...
>
> On Sat, 1 Jun 2013 18:40:16 +0200, Martin Fürholz wrote:
>
> > Hi Henri,
> > I'm curious:
> > why are you posting a link to this mailinglist about a 4+ year old
> > incident?
>
> It is 15 days old, not 4 years old...
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Re: [opensource-dev] Not all Open Source developers are honest...

2013-06-01 Thread Henri Beauchamp
On Sat, 1 Jun 2013 18:57:31 +0200, Martin Fürholz wrote:

> Ah! I misread the “joined” date on that forum page as the “posted” date, 
> this happens all the time :D
> I’m sorry, last time that I’ve heard anything about Kirstenlee’s viewer was 
> a couple of years ago, and S19 is also a couple of years old, as far as I 
> can tell (and I’m pretty sure about that). See 
> http://virtyou.com/viewer_track/ as a proof (Kirstenlee’s viewer “S20” was 
> built in 2010).

S20 is a v2 viewer, so it's obviously a different branch.
It is quite possible that Kirsten used the Cool VL Viewer sources and the
incremental patches I publish with every release to follow my progresses on
it, but it's obviously the very same viewer with just a couple of patches
added (a 600Kb diff is NOTHING, especially when you see what the changes
are about in this diff... a i++ instead of a ++i is not significant a
change !).

In fact, I don't care if Kirsten forks my viewer, what I care about is that
he obviously pretends being the person behind the 3000+ hours of coding *I*
spent on this code over the 6+ years of continuous development !

If anyone got more to say about this matter, please let's move it to the
Cool VL Viewer forum: I don't want to polute this list more than I already
did (but I thought it was important to bring up such an issue).

Henri.
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Re: [opensource-dev] Not all Open Source developers are honest...

2013-06-01 Thread Marine Kelley
Henri has been putting a considerable number of hours over several
years into fixing bugs and making improvements, including into other
people's viewers !

If what he says is true (and I have no doubt that it is since it is
easy to verify), this kind of thing is totally unacceptable. TPV
developers ought to behave exemplarily because users put their data
into their hands and trust them not to mess around with it. When one
dev misbehaves, it drops a shade of doubt on every other dev in the
community. I sincerely hope this was a misstep.

On 01/06/2013, Henri Beauchamp  wrote:
> On Sat, 1 Jun 2013 18:57:31 +0200, Martin Fürholz wrote:
>
>> Ah! I misread the “joined” date on that forum page as the “posted” date,
>> this happens all the time :D
>> I’m sorry, last time that I’ve heard anything about Kirstenlee’s viewer
>> was
>> a couple of years ago, and S19 is also a couple of years old, as far as I
>> can tell (and I’m pretty sure about that). See
>> http://virtyou.com/viewer_track/ as a proof (Kirstenlee’s viewer “S20” was
>>
>> built in 2010).
>
> S20 is a v2 viewer, so it's obviously a different branch.
> It is quite possible that Kirsten used the Cool VL Viewer sources and the
> incremental patches I publish with every release to follow my progresses on
> it, but it's obviously the very same viewer with just a couple of patches
> added (a 600Kb diff is NOTHING, especially when you see what the changes
> are about in this diff... a i++ instead of a ++i is not significant a
> change !).
>
> In fact, I don't care if Kirsten forks my viewer, what I care about is that
> he obviously pretends being the person behind the 3000+ hours of coding *I*
> spent on this code over the 6+ years of continuous development !
>
> If anyone got more to say about this matter, please let's move it to the
> Cool VL Viewer forum: I don't want to polute this list more than I already
> did (but I thought it was important to bring up such an issue).
>
> Henri.
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