[opensource-dev] Serious regression in SSB-enabled regions

2013-02-24 Thread Henri Beauchamp
Greetings,

I described a *serious*, *major* regression issue that I discovered
yesterday while reviewing (again) the SSB code and confirmed today
with tests on Aditi SunshineTest regions.

Please see: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SUN-38

For me (and I would guess, for most advanced SL users since we use the
avatar offset dozens of times over *each* SL session), this is even a
show stopper issue as far as SSB is concerned.

Regards,

Henri.
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Re: [opensource-dev] Serious regression in SSB-enabled regions

2013-02-24 Thread Darien Caldwell
Yes,  this was brought up to Nyx and Oz at Oz's last User Group meeting, by
inusaito.kanya They were supposed to file a bug under Sunshine, but
probably good to have someone else do it as well, in case they didn't.  I'm
unable to comment on SUN issues (or even make them) but I gave it my vote
regardless.

 - Dari


On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 4:14 AM, Henri Beauchamp  wrote:

> Greetings,
>
> I described a *serious*, *major* regression issue that I discovered
> yesterday while reviewing (again) the SSB code and confirmed today
> with tests on Aditi SunshineTest regions.
>
> Please see: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SUN-38
>
> For me (and I would guess, for most advanced SL users since we use the
> avatar offset dozens of times over *each* SL session), this is even a
> show stopper issue as far as SSB is concerned.
>
> Regards,
>
> Henri.
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Re: [opensource-dev] Serious regression in SSB-enabled regions

2013-02-24 Thread Henri Beauchamp
On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 10:36:12 -0800, Darien Caldwell wrote:

> Yes,  this was brought up to Nyx and Oz at Oz's last User Group meeting,
> by inusaito.kanya

I alas can't participate in meetings held on voice... I regret the time
when Soft Linden was in charge of OpenSource and did care about
non-English speaking developers, holding his meetings in chat for
everyone to be able to communicate on an equal ground...

> They were supposed to file a bug under Sunshine, but probably good to
> have someone else do it as well, in case they didn't.

I searched for an equivalent issue before creating SUN-38, but found
none.

> I'm unable to comment on SUN issues (or even make them)

Gotta love the new closed JIRA !... Way to go, LL...

Henri.
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Re: [opensource-dev] Serious regression in SSB-enabled regions

2013-02-24 Thread Niran
You meant the "closed and banning-for-trying-to-fix Jira"

2013/2/24 Henri Beauchamp 

> On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 10:36:12 -0800, Darien Caldwell wrote:
>
> > Yes,  this was brought up to Nyx and Oz at Oz's last User Group meeting,
> > by inusaito.kanya
>
> I alas can't participate in meetings held on voice... I regret the time
> when Soft Linden was in charge of OpenSource and did care about
> non-English speaking developers, holding his meetings in chat for
> everyone to be able to communicate on an equal ground...
>
> > They were supposed to file a bug under Sunshine, but probably good to
> > have someone else do it as well, in case they didn't.
>
> I searched for an equivalent issue before creating SUN-38, but found
> none.
>
> > I'm unable to comment on SUN issues (or even make them)
>
> Gotta love the new closed JIRA !... Way to go, LL...
>
> Henri.
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[opensource-dev] Cocoa Project Viewer

2013-02-24 Thread Argent Stonecutter
Where should I report bugs in the Cocoa Project Viewer?

On a MBP running Snow Leopard with an 800 pixel high display, the window is 
taller than the screen and can't be shrunk, even by editing the NS window size 
settings in the .plist file. This makes it unusable on that laptop.

Other than that, I hope some of the TPVs bring in that code base for their Mac 
versions, because it's wicked fast.
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Re: [opensource-dev] Serious regression in SSB-enabled regions

2013-02-24 Thread Carlo Wood
On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 10:36:12 -0800
Darien Caldwell  wrote:

> Yes,  this was brought up to Nyx and Oz at Oz's last User Group
> meeting, by inusaito.kanya They were supposed to file a bug under
> Sunshine, but probably good to have someone else do it as well, in
> case they didn't.  I'm unable to comment on SUN issues (or even make
> them) but I gave it my vote regardless.

I'm unable to add a comment either to this issue.
What utter crap is this???
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Re: [opensource-dev] Serious regression in SSB-enabled regions

2013-02-24 Thread Carlo Wood
On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 20:09:19 +0100
Henri Beauchamp  wrote:

> > I'm unable to comment on SUN issues (or even make them)
> 
> Gotta love the new closed JIRA !... Way to go, LL...

I was about to type "fuck you Linden Lab" in my previous post,
but assumed they might be assholes enough to then kick me
of this list... The phrase "way to go" is inventive. It would
never have occurred to me to use that in this context.

This whole "open source" HAHAHA project is a pathetic, lame,
grrr - I want to SPIT on it. LL should be sued for fucking
CALLING this "open" in ANY way. I hate you.

A REAL Open Source coder,
Carlo Wood 

PS I'd add a comment HERE regarding SUN-38, but I learned years
   ago already that LL doesn't listen to anyone. They are just
   going to give you the finger Henri (and everyone else in SL)
   but not going to fix this. I'm not even going to TRY add
   a (technical) comment. Seriously, why is ANYONE still HELPING
   them? Why doesn't everyone just leave this list, stop
   going to their meetings, and stop giving them patches? Are
   you all stupid or what?
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Re: [opensource-dev] Cocoa Project Viewer

2013-02-24 Thread Geenz Spad
The minimum size for the window (as defined in SecondLife.xib) is 1024x768.
 This is largely to prevent any odd cases where UI elements end up getting
clipped by the window inadvertently (though this is largely only a problem
with the width of the window, not the height).

I'll see about making the minimum size for the height of the window smaller.


On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 6:44 PM, Argent Stonecutter  wrote:

> Where should I report bugs in the Cocoa Project Viewer?
>
> On a MBP running Snow Leopard with an 800 pixel high display, the window
> is taller than the screen and can't be shrunk, even by editing the NS
> window size settings in the .plist file. This makes it unusable on that
> laptop.
>
> Other than that, I hope some of the TPVs bring in that code base for their
> Mac versions, because it's wicked fast.
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Re: [opensource-dev] Serious regression in SSB-enabled regions

2013-02-24 Thread Ricky
I know this thread has gotten completely OT, but I feel I should respond to
the feeling of dissatisfaction.

I contribute to help me.  I know that not everything I contribute will be
accepted: see https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-25739 for one I
created that I suspect that LL will never swallow, but that is already in
Firestorm's LGPL codebase.  What I've come to understand, and I accept as I
can see the logic behind it, is that open source is not the same as
open decision making, nor is it the same as allowing others to make the
decisions.  It simply means the code is available under a permissive
license for others - including us - to review, comment on, modify, and
compile for ourselves.  Let me re-iterate: open source is NOT community
maintenance.  LL has never implied or pretended that they've set up
a community maintenance program - and I think they'd have major problems if
they tried.

My L$2, and I will not continue in this topic on this thread.  If you wish
to respond to me, please take it off-list.

Ricky
Cron Stardust


On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 7:27 PM, Carlo Wood  wrote:

> On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 20:09:19 +0100
> Henri Beauchamp  wrote:
>
> > > I'm unable to comment on SUN issues (or even make them)
> >
> > Gotta love the new closed JIRA !... Way to go, LL...
>
> I was about to type "fuck you Linden Lab" in my previous post,
> but assumed they might be assholes enough to then kick me
> of this list... The phrase "way to go" is inventive. It would
> never have occurred to me to use that in this context.
>
> This whole "open source" HAHAHA project is a pathetic, lame,
> grrr - I want to SPIT on it. LL should be sued for fucking
> CALLING this "open" in ANY way. I hate you.
>
> A REAL Open Source coder,
> Carlo Wood 
>
> PS I'd add a comment HERE regarding SUN-38, but I learned years
>ago already that LL doesn't listen to anyone. They are just
>going to give you the finger Henri (and everyone else in SL)
>but not going to fix this. I'm not even going to TRY add
>a (technical) comment. Seriously, why is ANYONE still HELPING
>them? Why doesn't everyone just leave this list, stop
>going to their meetings, and stop giving them patches? Are
>you all stupid or what?
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