[opensource-dev] just a test

2011-04-09 Thread Ponzu
the list still alive?  I am not getting anything.
___
Policies and (un)subscribe information available here:
http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev
Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges

Re: [opensource-dev] just a test

2011-04-09 Thread Opensource Obscure
On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 16:21, Ponzu  wrote:
> the list still alive?  I am not getting anything.

Pong. Previous message I got from this list was by Trilo, 9 hours ago. Check
https://lists.secondlife.com/pipermail/opensource-dev/2011-April/date.html
I note that you wrote from Yahoo. Now that I'm replying to you,
Gmail puts a gmail.com address of yours in To:, and the yahoo.com
address in Cc: o.O
-- 
Opensource Obscure
http://twitter.com/oobscure - http://opensourceobscure.com/lol
___
Policies and (un)subscribe information available here:
http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev
Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges


Re: [opensource-dev] Review Request: Change to description for ShowNetStatus in debbug settings.

2011-04-09 Thread Argent Stonecutter
I agree with Boroondas. "Viewer and Network Usage" is wrong. Either "Packet 
Loss and Bandwidth" or simply "Network Performance".

On 2011-04-05, at 16:55, Boroondas Gupte wrote:

> This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: 
> http://codereview.secondlife.com/r/251/
> 
> indra/newview/app_settings/settings.xml (Diff revision 1)
> 9560  
>   Show the Search Bar in the Status Overlay
> 9560  
>   Show the Status Indicators for the Viewer and Network Usage in 
> the Status Overlay
> "Viewer Usage"?
> 
> I think the indicators show packet loss and used network bandwidth.
> 
> 
> - Boroondas
> 
> 
> On April 5th, 2011, 9:31 a.m., Wolfpup Lowenhar wrote:
> 
> Review request for Viewer.
> By Wolfpup Lowenhar.
> Updated April 5, 2011, 9:31 a.m.
> 
> Description
> 
> This is a change in the description for the ShowNetStatus debug setting.
> Testing
> 
> None needed as this is only a textual change.
> Bugs: STORM-1098
> Diffs
> 
>   • indra/newview/app_settings/settings.xml (3fc9a496265c)
> View Diff
> 
> ___
> Policies and (un)subscribe information available here:
> http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev
> Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges

"Welcome back, Anonymous, we're glad to see you again!"


___
Policies and (un)subscribe information available here:
http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev
Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges


Re: [opensource-dev] s3-proxy.lindenlab.com points to a private IP address?

2011-04-09 Thread Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence)

On 2011-04-09 0:19, Celierra Darling wrote:
I'm still seeing both of these, for FMOD and for KDU, in 
viewer-development rev 15768 (8b6c61efed4c), the latest revision at 
the moment.  I can get past the FMOD step by explicitly specifying -- 
-DFMOD:BOOL=FALSE on the configure command line (suggested by Ima on 
#opensl), but KDU doesn't seem to have an option that's so simple.  
(I'd rather not edit the URL to download gray-area files if I can help 
it.)


if you pass -DINSTALL_PROPRIETARY:BOOL=FALSE then the build will not use 
the KDU.


Those files were uploaded to the wrong place in error, and should not 
have been referenced using the publicly available URL. They've been 
deleted.  If you have copies of them, please delete them.


___
Policies and (un)subscribe information available here:
http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev
Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges

Re: [opensource-dev] Intra-sim teleports and Local Chat History

2011-04-09 Thread Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence)
On 2011-03-27 12:46, Opensource Obscure wrote:
> Which is the expected behaviour for intra-sim teleports
> and Local Chat History? should these teleports show up,
> like when you teleport to a different region?
>
> They currently don't, but they're correctly recorded in the
> Teleport History in Sidebar.
>
> This is why I waited before closing
> https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-15259 as Released.

Does anyone think that there's some important reason to change the 
current behavior?  Is the notice in chat any more useful?  Indeed, given 
that we have the teleport history, is the notice in chat really needed?

I realize that it's not perfectly consistent, but I don't see that as a 
reason to change it.
___
Policies and (un)subscribe information available here:
http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev
Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges


Re: [opensource-dev] Intra-sim teleports and Local Chat History

2011-04-09 Thread Opensource Obscure
On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 21:29, Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence)
 wrote:

> Does anyone think that there's some important reason to change the
> current behavior?  Is the notice in chat any more useful?  Indeed, given
> that we have the teleport history, is the notice in chat really needed?

I'm used to the notice in chat and I find it useful. But I think
it was created as a workaround looking for a better implementation,
which the current teleport history in sidebar is supposed to be.

>From a design/usability point of view, I'd say that removing the
notice in chat would be the correct solution. That would move
this functionality from a non-related place in the interface
(the chat history) where it's only partially implemented,
to its dedicated place where it works completely.

Opensource Obscure
--
http://twitter.com/oobscure - http://opensourceobscure.com/lol
___
Policies and (un)subscribe information available here:
http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev
Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges


Re: [opensource-dev] [JIRA] Commented: (STORM-1147) Other avatar's loose clothing\ flared cuffs look like they are tight\got no flare in v.2.4.0 and higher

2011-04-09 Thread Ardy Lay
(Please forgive the abject resolution in the following message.  I am 
sure it will spoil somebody's day, but I am sorry.  It is necessary to 
make this description unambiguous.)

Oz,

The fun thing about having this bug in my avatar's viewer is that it 
never affected the appearance of my avatar on my avatar's own camera.  
What this bug did affect was the appearance of other avatars on my 
avatar's camera.  To reproduce the erroneous rendering on your own would 
require you to know positively what some other avatar's appearance 
should be.  The most positive way to do this is to run two separate 
instances of the Second Life viewer in a manner preventing them from 
having any interaction save from that provided by the Second Life Grid's 
network.  Running each on it's own host computer is the easiest 
configuration.  Each would, of course, need to have it's own Second Life 
account and ideally they would be visually side by side both in Second 
Life and on your desk.  Running two sessions of the Second Life viewer 
on a single host does not positively isolate them from each other at 
this time unless you take great care to ensure they SHARE NO DATA 
FILES.  Shared cache and/or user setting files can corrupt efforts to 
reproduce this issue.

That said, once the bug is gone, you can look around and see that other 
avatars do wear clothing that has looseness, flared pant legs and is 
affected by simulation wind.  When it's there, it's obvious.  When it's 
missing, you might not notice as many avatars do wear all clothing 
except skirts and coats tightly.  Not knowing what their intended 
appearance is can make this defect unobtrusive in casual use or 
systematic testing that does not have a specific item in a test plan to 
look for properly rendered clothing including all of the above requirements.

Time for an amended test plan.

Ardy Lay

___
Policies and (un)subscribe information available here:
http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev
Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges


[opensource-dev] GPL'd files in viewer-dev repository

2011-04-09 Thread Ambrosia
Greetings,

Just a heads up to anybody building any kind of official TPVs:

Do not use the  llPhysicsMotion.cpp and .h that are currently in the
repository, nor derivate code off them.
They come with GPL headers and would taint any relased builds into
being GPL licensed, certainly an oversight on the Lab's part.

See 
http://hg.secondlife.com/viewer-development/src/1d91cf66ee6e/indra/newview/llphysicsmotion.cpp
and 
http://hg.secondlife.com/viewer-development/src/1d91cf66ee6e/indra/newview/llphysicsmotion.h

--Chalice Yao
___
Policies and (un)subscribe information available here:
http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev
Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges


Re: [opensource-dev] Intra-sim teleports and Local Chat History

2011-04-09 Thread Celierra Darling
I think it does serve as a good deliminator between distinct sections of the
chat record, and as a nice bit of context in chat logs.  And logging only
with inter-sim teleports happens to be a good rough indicator for what sort
of context shift could be 'big enough' to log.  For those uses, one might
consider changing it to list both the origin and destination of the teleport
(or perhaps revamp it entirely for that usage specifically).

Celi


On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Opensource Obscure <
opensourceobsc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 21:29, Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence)
>  wrote:
>
> > Does anyone think that there's some important reason to change the
> > current behavior?  Is the notice in chat any more useful?  Indeed, given
> > that we have the teleport history, is the notice in chat really needed?
>
> I'm used to the notice in chat and I find it useful. But I think
> it was created as a workaround looking for a better implementation,
> which the current teleport history in sidebar is supposed to be.
>
> From a design/usability point of view, I'd say that removing the
> notice in chat would be the correct solution. That would move
> this functionality from a non-related place in the interface
> (the chat history) where it's only partially implemented,
> to its dedicated place where it works completely.
>
> Opensource Obscure
> --
> http://twitter.com/oobscure - http://opensourceobscure.com/lol
> ___
> Policies and (un)subscribe information available here:
> http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev
> Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting
> privileges
>
___
Policies and (un)subscribe information available here:
http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev
Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges

Re: [opensource-dev] Review Request: OPEN-61 Adding locations that VC redistributable package installs files.

2011-04-09 Thread Ima Mechanique

---
This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit:
http://codereview.secondlife.com/r/259/
---

(Updated April 9, 2011, 6:27 p.m.)


Review request for Viewer.


Changes
---

Changed the search to use a registry lookup for the %SystemRoot% instead of the 
environment variable WINDIR. Also added warning messages if the files are not 
located.


Summary
---

The VC redistributable package installs its files (msvcr100.dll, msvcp100.dll, 
msvcr100d.dll, msvcp100d.dll, etc.) to the WINDOWS\System32 directory (and 
WINDOWS\SysWOW64, if it is a 64-bit version). Adding these locations to the 
list of places to look when attempting to copy the files to 
build-vc100\sharedlibs.

On 64 bit windows the 32-bit file versions go to SySWOW64, so this is listed 
first to prevent the 64-bit versions being used.

If any one knows how it could use %systemroot% instead of the environment 
variable WINDIR I'd appreciate the info ;-) 


This addresses bug OPEN-61.
http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-61


Diffs (updated)
-

  indra/cmake/Copy3rdPartyLibs.cmake 33ca961b0870 

Diff: http://codereview.secondlife.com/r/259/diff


Testing
---

Ran 'autobuild build' without manually copying the redistributable files or 
adding the configure switch to point at their location.


Thanks,

Ima

___
Policies and (un)subscribe information available here:
http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev
Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges

Re: [opensource-dev] [JIRA] Commented: (STORM-1147) Other avatar's loose clothing\ flared cuffs look like they are tight\got no flare in v.2.4.0 and higher

2011-04-09 Thread Stickman
> Time for an amended test plan.

Based on my personal experience and inaccurate memory, I remember
three times in the history of SL that this bug in some form has
cropped up.

I agree. This should definitely be watched for.

Sporting accidental skin-tight slacks,
Stickman
___
Policies and (un)subscribe information available here:
http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev
Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges


Re: [opensource-dev] GPL'd files in viewer-dev repository

2011-04-09 Thread Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence)
On 2011-04-09 20:28, Ambrosia wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> Just a heads up to anybody building any kind of official TPVs:
>
> Do not use the  llPhysicsMotion.cpp and .h that are currently in the
> repository, nor derivate code off them.
> They come with GPL headers and would taint any relased builds into
> being GPL licensed, certainly an oversight on the Lab's part.
>
> See 
> http://hg.secondlife.com/viewer-development/src/1d91cf66ee6e/indra/newview/llphysicsmotion.cpp
> and 
> http://hg.secondlife.com/viewer-development/src/1d91cf66ee6e/indra/newview/llphysicsmotion.h
>
> --Chalice Yao

Thanks for pointing those out I fixed them in changeset d818c6ffc72e.

___
Policies and (un)subscribe information available here:
http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev
Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges