Re: [opensource-dev] Code Review Request: VWR-21253 (Permissions icons in the friends list)

2010-09-07 Thread Aimee Linden
> On 09/06/2010 07:37 PM, Marine Kelley wrote:
>> 
>> Err... color me stupid but... how does one show the friends list in this 
>> style on viewer 2 ? I can detach tabs from the sidebar, but I cannot find a 
>> way to show the permissions matrix. It would be so handy !

On 6 Sep 2010, at 21:23, Boroondas Gupte wrote:

> I guess you refer to the screenshot attached to the jira issue? Note the date 
> when that one was added, Oct. 15, 2009. Also note the artwork and color 
> scheme. I guess that was from an early development version of Viewer 2 that 
> already had the people sidebar tab but also still had the old code of the 
> contacts panel, so that both could be compared within a single application. 
> (That, or it's a mock-up.)

Yes, that screenshot is quite old, sorry for the confusion :)

> If you read the comments you'll note this isn't what Aimee has implemented 
> now: She shows permissions in the hover tips, it seems.

The permission icons appear inline, alongside the 'i' and '->' buttons for each 
person.
> 
> I'd still prefer to see all perms at one glance without hovering. Moon 
> Metty's suggestion to only display non-default values would indeed avoid the 
> cluttering and, more important, would also make these values stand out. I 
> think this could nicely be done with icons similar the maturity rating and 
> parcel permission ones in the navigation bar.

On 6 Sep 2010, at 20:50, leliel wrote:

> Works fine for me on Linux. Looks like it uses the 1.23 icons which
> don't fit in with the theme on 2.x tho.

Yes that's expected, just temporary until we have new artwork.

Aimee.

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Re: [opensource-dev] Code Review Request: VWR-21253 (Permissions icons in the friends list)

2010-09-07 Thread Boroondas Gupte
 During testing, I made some interesting observations that I wanted to
comment about, but JIRA is read-only at the moment, so I'll just paste
it here:

Tested, works as expected with the following exceptions:


  Revoking "See my online status" permission automatically also
  revokes "See me on the map" permission

This can be seen by the following observations:

* In *step 8*, the "See me on the map" icon also no longer appears
* In *step 9*, the "See me on the map" is already unchecked
  (OFF), so this step cannot be performed

I guess this is expected behavior, as the ability to locate someone
on the map would leak the fact that they're online. However, I think
there should be some visual indication of this when revoking the
"See my online status" permission. I.e. in *step 7*, we should have:

* *Expected:* The "See me on the map" checkbox is unchecked
  (OFF) and disabled (grayed out)


  Permission icons not updating for granter while hovering over
  grantee's name


To reproduce:

As TESTER1:

   1. View "Notes & Privacy" of TESTER2's profile and change the
  permissions.
   2. Immediately click *[<]* to return to TESTER1's friend list.
   3. Immediately hover over TESTER2's name.
  * *Observed:* Sometimes you still see the old permissions.
  * *Observed:* If this happens, as long as you keep
hovering, they won't update.
   4. Move the mouse off the friends list.
   5. Re-hover the mouse cursor over TESTER2's name.
  * *Observed:* Now the visible icons correspond to the new
permissions.

Interestingly, when TESTER2 hovers over TESTER1's name while TESTER1
changes the "Edit, delete or take my objects" permission, TESTER2
will see the corresponding icon appear/disappear without having to
un-hover and re-hover.

On 09/07/2010 01:18 PM, Aimee Linden wrote:
>> If you read the comments you'll note this isn't what Aimee has
>> implemented now: She shows permissions in the hover tips, it seems.
>
> The permission icons appear inline, alongside the 'i' and '->' buttons
> for each person.
Yes, I noticed that when finally testing your build myself today. This
is of course much better than in tool tips, because like this the icons
are visible immediately on mouse-over. :-) While that makes it less
pressing, I still stand by my wish below:
>> I'd still prefer to see all perms at one glance without hovering.
>> Moon Metty's suggestion to only display non-default values would
>> indeed avoid the cluttering and, more important, would also make
>> these values stand out. I think this could nicely be done with icons
>> similar the maturity rating and parcel permission ones in the
>> navigation bar.
I don't really see the use case for the option to *not show* the icons
even *when hovering*. Maybe the above could be solved by replacing it
with an option to *show* the icons even *when not hovering*?

Cheers,
Boroondas
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Re: [opensource-dev] Code Review Request: VWR-21253 (Permissions icons in the friends list)

2010-09-07 Thread Ardy Lay
  On 9/6/2010 11:53 AM, Aimee Linden wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Could I get some eyes on a fix for 
> http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-21253 ...
>
> http://bitbucket.org/aimee_linden/viewer-development-tweaks/changeset/fb38222f1b08
>
> A test build containing this is available here ...
>
> http://automated-builds-secondlife-com.s3.amazonaws.com/hg/repo/aimee_viewer-development-tweaks/rev/208486/index.html
>
> Thanks,
>
> Aimee.
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The provided build implodes 4 seconds after launch it on Windows 7.
I'll pick up the change set, build that and see what happens.
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Re: [opensource-dev] Code Review Request: VWR-21253 (Permissions icons in the friends list)

2010-09-07 Thread Alexandrea Fride
llkdu.dll problem hapend to me to, replace the dll from the officialy viewer 
2.1 or devenlopbuild that worked

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> The provided build implodes 4 seconds after launch it on Windows 7.
> I'll pick up the change set, build that and see what happens. 

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Re: [opensource-dev] Code Review Request: VWR-21253 (Permissions icons in the friends list)

2010-09-07 Thread Aimee Linden
Ah yep, that build's not been rebuilt since before the LLKDU fix, sorry about 
that, a new build should be up shortly.

Aimee.

On 7 Sep 2010, at 15:21, Alexandrea Fride wrote:

> llkdu.dll problem hapend to me to, replace the dll from the officialy viewer 
> 2.1 or devenlopbuild that worked
> 
> --
> From: "Ardy Lay" 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 4:18 PM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [opensource-dev] Code Review Request: VWR-21253 (Permissions 
> icons in the friends list)
> 
>> The provided build implodes 4 seconds after launch it on Windows 7.
>> I'll pick up the change set, build that and see what happens. 
> 
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[opensource-dev] added link to Smoke test result in wiki

2010-09-07 Thread Anya Kanevsky
Hi!

I've added a link to the latest smoke test results in the Snowstorm wiki
page (under Communications).  I will keep that section up to date with links
to new results as they become available (we expect to have a continuous
testing cycle).  I will only keep links to test results for the current
sprint on the wiki, however the spreadsheets will remain accessible
indefinitely.
In the spreadsheets, first tab will always contain the summary, and
additional tabs will show results by OS.

Anya
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[opensource-dev] The Plan for Snowglobe

2010-09-07 Thread Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence)
 The Snowglobe project has served a very useful purpose, but as I said 
when we launched Project Snowstorm, we need to be clear that our open 
source efforts are focused there.  We're making very good progress 
importing the features and fixes from Snowglobe into the 
viewer-development repository, and it's time to make sure that we're not 
splitting our efforts.


In keeping with that, here's the outline of what we'll be doing with 
Snowglobe in the coming months:


   *Immediately
   *

   * Take down the snowglobeproject.org web site

   Apparently not updated since Rob L. left, it's horribly out of
   date.  If you can still find pointers to it on the wiki, please
   point them out to me or remove them.

   * Remove Snowglobe from the secondlife.com downloads page

   This has already been done.
   The download pointers on the wiki will remain for as long as
   Snowglobe is allowed as a viewer

   *Snowglobe will be allowed as a Second Life Viewer for as long
   as version 1.23 is allowed.*

   *We know that we have a lot of work to do before disallowing
   1.23 would be appropriate, and do not have any plan to stop
   allowing either Snowglobe or version 1.23.* 


   * Stop the twice-weekly open source meetings.

   We have the various open meetings of Project Snowstorm, and all
   our open tracking systems.  Members of the Snowstorm team have
   Office Hours, and those will continue (and new ones may be added).

   *In 1 week *(Tuesday Sept 14)

   * Remove viewer-external from hg.secondlife.com
   * Disable all write access to the Snowglobe subversion repository
   * Stop any remaining TeamCity Snowglobe builds

   *In 3 months* (Tuesday Dec 7)*
   *

   * Take down the Snowglobe subversion repository

   This should allow ample time to complete importing the changes
   from Snowglobe.




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Re: [opensource-dev] System Folders to Top

2010-09-07 Thread Lance Corrimal
Found it, tried it, it doesnt do anything for me anymore...


Am Wednesday 01 September 2010 schrieb Suz Dollar:
> Inventory.SystemFoldersToTop
> 
> Set to false will put the folders in full alpha numeric order with
> special characters like ! at the top. Set to True will leave it
> with system folders always at the top. I've had it with the system
> folders mixed in for so long that it held the preference somewhere
> long after the option dropped in 2.x. I had to go back to 1.23 to
> figure out where the menu option was missing. This should be
> somewhere on our options gadget, a loss imo from 1.23.
> 
> Lance Corrimal wrote:
> > Am Wednesday 01 September 2010 schrieb Suz Dollar:
> >> As a user, I would like to be able to turn off the forced system
> >> folders to top. This used to be an obvious and easy thing to
> >> change back and forth on the fly and now seems to have been
> >> removed and relegated to the debug menu.
> > 
> > there's a debug menu item for that??? where which what how
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > bye,
> > LC
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