Re: [opensource-dev] Snowglobe 2.0 and viewer-external merges

[WolfPup Lowenhar]

I was looking at the spreadsheet and I could not see anything that would
have affected the associated notification files(..ie llnotification.h,
llnotification.cpp, panel_bottom_tray.xml[in particular notification
section])  as all these files had modifications to them during the port when
I checked the differences between r3349 and r3348 those files had some minor
to major changes to them.

 

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[mailto:opensource-dev-boun...@lists.secondlife.com] On Behalf Of Philippe
(Merov) Bossut
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 4:42 PM
To: opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com
Subject: [opensource-dev] Snowglobe 2.0 and viewer-external merges

 

Hi,

Last week, I landed a big merge with viewer-external creating the svn r3349
commit. That was a sync with viewer-public which is now in its 2.0.2 phase.

This commit resulted in a bunch of problems for lots of you building
standalone (see previous emails from Lance, Wolfpup, Boroondas and others)
and just some plain unstable behaviors in the trunk (see
http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SNOW-658). 

This is hampering the progress on merging back Snowglobe 1.x features to the
Snowglobe 2.0 trunk and pushes the availability of this release even
further. We discussed this situation at the last Hippo meeting Thursday and
thought that it was may be time to hit "pause" on merges from viewer-public
into the Snowglobe 2.x trunk so that we can complete that 1.x merge back.

We informally agreed on the following:
- roll back r3349 and stay put with the stable 2.0.1 code base
- merge all 1.x commits into trunk
- release SG 2.0.1 then resume merging viewer-external into trunk (2.0.2 or
whatever viewer-external will be at that time)

One ancillary task to this plan was that I would make a "1.x to 2.0 port"
spreadsheet available and here it is:
 
https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AgvC7hm5YZqcdHVXb05iTE0wTFc0bWptTW4
tOTZuS3c
 &hl=en

This plan will not change anything to viewer-external syncing schedule so
we'll continue to see viewer-public changes and, potentially, cherry pick
things from there if it makes sense (as little as possible though since the
whole idea of pausing merges is to work off a stable 2.0.1).

The "pros" are pretty obvious (rather quick convergence on a Snowglobe 2.0
that's releasable) though the big "con" is that we'll face yet another big
merge later. Being the one doing the merges though, I somewhat prefer that
solution (doing one serious merge later rather than suffering through
start/stop due to build breakage till SG 2.0 release).

I'm planning to do this roll back tomorrow (Tuesday May 18th) so, please,
speak up before if you feel this is a bad plan.

Cheers,
- Merov

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[opensource-dev] "Future Proofing VWRAP" presentation from today's AWG meeting

[Meadhbh Hamrick]

hey peeps.

i had the pleasure of presenting a few slides on "Future Proofing
VWRAP" at today's AW Groupies meeting. If you missed it, here is the
link to the google presentation.

http://docs.google.com/present/view?id=df7ht8v8_9hqxdscfr

cheers!
meadhbh
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meadhbh hamrick * it's pronounced "maeve"
@OhMeadhbh * http://meadhbh.org/ * ohmead...@gmail.com
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[opensource-dev] Introduction

[Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence)]

This is just a quick note to introduce myself - I'm Scott Lawrence, and 
this week I've become Oz Linden.  I've just started at Linden Lab as the 
Director of Open Development.

I'm a long time open source user and developer - for the last ~7 years 
I've been leading the sipXecs SIP PBX project 


My new role here is to expand and improve the open source viewer 
program.  I hope to get to know most of you well, and to hear your 
thoughts on how Linden Lab and the open source community can work better 
together.

I'm also heading up the Applied Engineering team with the mission of 
making our sustaining activities for the viewer even more responsive to 
the needs of our Residents, and I hope that part of that will be 
achieved by accelerating the incorporation of the good work of open 
source contributors.

I'm based in the Boston office, which will give you some idea of when 
I'm most likely to be awake.

I am very much aware that I've taken on a big job, and that there's much 
to do - I'm going to be looking to you to help me set my agenda.  Please 
understand that I'm sending this note on my second day as an employee - 
I have not yet finished all my new-hire paperwork, and it will take me 
some time to get up to speed; please bear with me.

Outside work, I play billiards in the APA , 
and ride my electric skateboard (if you've got a Facebook account, you 
can see a very short ride 
). (I rode it 
today from the train station to the office).

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Re: [opensource-dev] Introduction

[Mike Monkowski]

Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) wrote:
> This is just a quick note to introduce myself - I'm Scott Lawrence, and 
> this week I've become Oz Linden.  I've just started at Linden Lab as the 
> Director of Open Development.

OS.  Oz.  I see what you did there.  With the "wizard" allusion.  Very 
clever. :-)

> I'm a long time open source user and developer - for the last ~7 years 
> I've been leading the sipXecs SIP PBX project 
> 

OK.  We can bug you about getting the voice chat code open sourced. :-)

> My new role here is to expand and improve the open source viewer 
> program.  I hope to get to know most of you well, and to hear your 
> thoughts on how Linden Lab and the open source community can work better 
> together.

Oh, we all are kind of shy about offering our ideas. :-)
They didn't let you read any of this mailing list before you accepted 
the position, did they?

> I'm also heading up the Applied Engineering team with the mission of 
> making our sustaining activities for the viewer even more responsive to 
> the needs of our Residents, and I hope that part of that will be 
> achieved by accelerating the incorporation of the good work of open 
> source contributors.

They wrote that for you, didn't they?  :-)

> I'm based in the Boston office, which will give you some idea of when 
> I'm most likely to be awake.

There's a correlation?  :-)

> I am very much aware that I've taken on a big job, and that there's much 
> to do - I'm going to be looking to you to help me set my agenda.  Please 
> understand that I'm sending this note on my second day as an employee - 
> I have not yet finished all my new-hire paperwork, and it will take me 
> some time to get up to speed; please bear with me.

Hey, we got work to do!  No time for getting up to speed.  :-)

> Outside work, I play billiards in the APA , 
> and ride my electric skateboard (if you've got a Facebook account, you 
> can see a very short ride 
> ). (I rode it 
> today from the train station to the office).

Well, of course, you won't have any time for that anymore. :-)


Yaaay!  Welcome aboard!

Mike
SL: Mm Alder


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Re: [opensource-dev] Introduction

[Argent Stonecutter]

On 2010-05-18, at 17:36, Mike Monkowski wrote:
>> I'm based in the Boston office, which will give you some idea of when
>> I'm most likely to be awake.
>
> There's a correlation?  :-)

Eastern Standard Tribe.

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Re: [opensource-dev] Introduction

[WolfPup Lowenhar]

Hello and welcome,
   I'm wondering if you're going to get the dev system 'rocking' ;)

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[mailto:opensource-dev-boun...@lists.secondlife.com] On Behalf Of Oz Linden
(Scott Lawrence)
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 4:46 PM
To: opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com
Subject: [opensource-dev] Introduction

This is just a quick note to introduce myself - I'm Scott Lawrence, and 
this week I've become Oz Linden.  I've just started at Linden Lab as the 
Director of Open Development.

I'm a long time open source user and developer - for the last ~7 years 
I've been leading the sipXecs SIP PBX project 


My new role here is to expand and improve the open source viewer 
program.  I hope to get to know most of you well, and to hear your 
thoughts on how Linden Lab and the open source community can work better 
together.

I'm also heading up the Applied Engineering team with the mission of 
making our sustaining activities for the viewer even more responsive to 
the needs of our Residents, and I hope that part of that will be 
achieved by accelerating the incorporation of the good work of open 
source contributors.

I'm based in the Boston office, which will give you some idea of when 
I'm most likely to be awake.

I am very much aware that I've taken on a big job, and that there's much 
to do - I'm going to be looking to you to help me set my agenda.  Please 
understand that I'm sending this note on my second day as an employee - 
I have not yet finished all my new-hire paperwork, and it will take me 
some time to get up to speed; please bear with me.

Outside work, I play billiards in the APA , 
and ride my electric skateboard (if you've got a Facebook account, you 
can see a very short ride 
). (I rode it 
today from the train station to the office).

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[opensource-dev] Call for stability patches

[Kent Quirk (Q Linden)]

Hello, folks.

LL developers are busily working on the 2.1 release, which you can read about 
in Esbee's blog post here:


http://blogs.secondlife.com/community/technology/blog/2010/05/05/on-the-road-to-viewer-21

Some of the things we're working on, as are mentioned there, are stability and 
performance. You can see the work going on in the viewer-external repository:

https://svn.secondlife.com/svn/linden/branches/2010/viewer-external

which Merov has been syncing to our internal repository on a daily basis.

I'd like to ask for your help at several levels regarding the stability and 
performance patches:

* Looking in Merov's spreadsheet:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AgvC7hm5YZqcdHVXb05iTE0wTFc0bWptTW4tOTZuS3c&hl=en
and posting specific issues that we should be seriously considering. We'll be 
doing the same, but extra opinions would be welcome.

* Looking in JIRA to see if there are any neglected patches that have been 
contributed that we should be importing.

* Any new contributions you can offer.

If stability and performance conflict, stability wins. And although I know 
there are plenty of desired features, this isn't about that right now -- what 
I'm hoping for is some extra eyes on issues causing crashes or stalls or 
slowdowns.

Please note that in all cases, we can't take patches in to the official LL 
viewer where the contributor hasn't signed a contribution agreement. 

If you just want to point us at particular JIRA entries, feel free to do so in 
reply to this thread. If you have new code, please go through JIRA (and post a 
link here!).

I'll be at my usual office hours tomorrow (Wednesday) at 8 AM Pacific in 
Longfellow if you want to come talk about it.

Thanks,

Q

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Re: [opensource-dev] Introduction

[Frans]

Hey Scott,

Welcome aboard! Love the skateboard, it makes me think you are more of a
west coast/Californian at heart?  That is something LL has been losing,
regardless where your heart lies, you seem to  be a great addition to the
Lab! :)

Looking forward to hearing more from you in the future.

-Frans

On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 10:46 PM, Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) <
o...@lindenlab.com> wrote:

> This is just a quick note to introduce myself - I'm Scott Lawrence, and
> this week I've become Oz Linden.  I've just started at Linden Lab as the
> Director of Open Development.
>
> I'm a long time open source user and developer - for the last ~7 years
> I've been leading the sipXecs SIP PBX project
> 
>
> My new role here is to expand and improve the open source viewer
> program.  I hope to get to know most of you well, and to hear your
> thoughts on how Linden Lab and the open source community can work better
> together.
>
> I'm also heading up the Applied Engineering team with the mission of
> making our sustaining activities for the viewer even more responsive to
> the needs of our Residents, and I hope that part of that will be
> achieved by accelerating the incorporation of the good work of open
> source contributors.
>
> I'm based in the Boston office, which will give you some idea of when
> I'm most likely to be awake.
>
> I am very much aware that I've taken on a big job, and that there's much
> to do - I'm going to be looking to you to help me set my agenda.  Please
> understand that I'm sending this note on my second day as an employee -
> I have not yet finished all my new-hire paperwork, and it will take me
> some time to get up to speed; please bear with me.
>
> Outside work, I play billiards in the APA ,
> and ride my electric skateboard (if you've got a Facebook account, you
> can see a very short ride
> ). (I rode it
> today from the train station to the office).
>
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-- 
Jeroen Frans
Virtual World Technology Specialist.
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SL: Frans Charming
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