[Numpy-discussion] Build fortran extension on Windows with gfortran and MSVC

2016-02-11 Thread Marek Wojciechowski
Hi!

It seems that on Windows + Python-3.5 fortran extensions cannot be built 
anymore with  f2py and mingw32 compilers, because of new MSVC. Here is the 
short description of the errors one gets:

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/33822554/build-fortran-extension-on-windows-with-gfortran-and-msvc

This is sad, because this worked quite nicely with all previous python 
versions. I'm curious what are the options now? Is this going to be supported 
in the future, with mingw-w64 for example? 

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Re: [Numpy-discussion] Build fortran extension on Windows with gfortran and MSVC

2016-02-11 Thread Jose Gomez-Dans
Hi,


On 11 February 2016 at 15:40, Marek Wojciechowski  wrote:

> It seems that on Windows + Python-3.5 fortran extensions cannot be built
> anymore with  f2py and mingw32 compilers, because of new MSVC. Here is the
> short description of the errors one gets:
>

Off-topic, but this is something that I get asked quite often, and I don't
know what to say, not being a windows user:
Is there some "howto" compile f2py fortran modules from scratch in windows
with anaconda available?

Jose
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Re: [Numpy-discussion] Build fortran extension on Windows with gfortran and MSVC

2016-02-11 Thread Marek Wojciechowski
Dnia czwartek, 11 lutego 2016 16:40:22 Marek Wojciechowski pisze:
> Hi!
> 
> It seems that on Windows + Python-3.5 fortran extensions cannot be built
> anymore with  f2py and mingw32 compilers, because of new MSVC. Here is the
> short description of the errors one gets:
> 
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/33822554/build-fortran-extension-on-windo
> ws-with-gfortran-and-msvc
> 
> This is sad, because this worked quite nicely with all previous python
> versions. I'm curious what are the options now? Is this going to be
> supported in the future, with mingw-w64 for example?

I found that the effort is on the way: http://mingwpy.github.io. The roadmap is 
quite ambitious...


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Re: [Numpy-discussion] Build fortran extension on Windows with gfortran and MSVC

2016-02-11 Thread Marek Wojciechowski
Dnia czwartek, 11 lutego 2016 16:23:23 Jose Gomez-Dans pisze:
> Hi,
> 
> On 11 February 2016 at 15:40, Marek Wojciechowski  wrote:
> > It seems that on Windows + Python-3.5 fortran extensions cannot be built
> > anymore with  f2py and mingw32 compilers, because of new MSVC. Here is the
> 
> > short description of the errors one gets:
> Off-topic, but this is something that I get asked quite often, and I don't
> know what to say, not being a windows user:
> Is there some "howto" compile f2py fortran modules from scratch in windows
> with anaconda available?

After installing mingw (conda install mingw), you should go like on Linux. I 
think f2py is choosing --compiler=mingw32 by default.

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Re: [Numpy-discussion] Deprecating `numpy.iterable`

2016-02-11 Thread Stephan Hoyer
We certainly can (and probably should) deprecate this, but we can't remove
it for a very long time.

np.iterable is used in a lot of third party code.

On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 7:09 PM, Joseph Fox-Rabinovitz <
jfoxrabinov...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have created a PR to deprecate `np.iterable`
> (https://github.com/numpy/numpy/pull/7202). It is a very old function,
> introduced as a utility in 2005
> (
> https://github.com/numpy/numpy/commit/052a7b2e3276a303be1083022fc24d43084d2e14
> ),
> and there is no good reason for it to be part of the public API. It is
> used internally 10 times within numpy. I have repaced those usages
> with a private function `np.lib.function_base._iterable` and added a
> `DeprecationWarning` to the public function.
>
> Is there anyone that objects to deprecating this function?
>
> Regards,
>
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Re: [Numpy-discussion] Deprecating `numpy.iterable`

2016-02-11 Thread Nathaniel Smith
Oh wow, yeah, there are tons of uses:
  
https://github.com/search?q=%22np.iterable%22&ref=simplesearch&type=Code&utf8=%E2%9C%93

Meh, I dunno, maybe we're stuck with it. It's not a major maintenance
burden at least.

-n

On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 10:25 AM, Stephan Hoyer  wrote:
> We certainly can (and probably should) deprecate this, but we can't remove
> it for a very long time.
>
> np.iterable is used in a lot of third party code.
>
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 7:09 PM, Joseph Fox-Rabinovitz
>  wrote:
>>
>> I have created a PR to deprecate `np.iterable`
>> (https://github.com/numpy/numpy/pull/7202). It is a very old function,
>> introduced as a utility in 2005
>>
>> (https://github.com/numpy/numpy/commit/052a7b2e3276a303be1083022fc24d43084d2e14),
>> and there is no good reason for it to be part of the public API. It is
>> used internally 10 times within numpy. I have repaced those usages
>> with a private function `np.lib.function_base._iterable` and added a
>> `DeprecationWarning` to the public function.
>>
>> Is there anyone that objects to deprecating this function?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> -Joseph
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Re: [Numpy-discussion] Deprecating `numpy.iterable`

2016-02-11 Thread Benjamin Root
Huh... matplotlib could use that! We have been using our own internal
function left over from the numerix days, I think.

Ben Root

On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Nathaniel Smith  wrote:

> Oh wow, yeah, there are tons of uses:
>
> https://github.com/search?q=%22np.iterable%22&ref=simplesearch&type=Code&utf8=%E2%9C%93
>
> Meh, I dunno, maybe we're stuck with it. It's not a major maintenance
> burden at least.
>
> -n
>
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 10:25 AM, Stephan Hoyer  wrote:
> > We certainly can (and probably should) deprecate this, but we can't
> remove
> > it for a very long time.
> >
> > np.iterable is used in a lot of third party code.
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 7:09 PM, Joseph Fox-Rabinovitz
> >  wrote:
> >>
> >> I have created a PR to deprecate `np.iterable`
> >> (https://github.com/numpy/numpy/pull/7202). It is a very old function,
> >> introduced as a utility in 2005
> >>
> >> (
> https://github.com/numpy/numpy/commit/052a7b2e3276a303be1083022fc24d43084d2e14
> ),
> >> and there is no good reason for it to be part of the public API. It is
> >> used internally 10 times within numpy. I have repaced those usages
> >> with a private function `np.lib.function_base._iterable` and added a
> >> `DeprecationWarning` to the public function.
> >>
> >> Is there anyone that objects to deprecating this function?
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> -Joseph
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Re: [Numpy-discussion] Deprecating `numpy.iterable`

2016-02-11 Thread Joseph Fox-Rabinovitz
It appears that deprecating `numpy.iterable` would be
counterproductive. I have reverted my PR to just making the return
value an actual `bool` instead of an `int`.

On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 2:54 PM, Benjamin Root  wrote:
> Huh... matplotlib could use that! We have been using our own internal
> function left over from the numerix days, I think.
>
> Ben Root
>
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Nathaniel Smith  wrote:
>>
>> Oh wow, yeah, there are tons of uses:
>>
>> https://github.com/search?q=%22np.iterable%22&ref=simplesearch&type=Code&utf8=%E2%9C%93
>>
>> Meh, I dunno, maybe we're stuck with it. It's not a major maintenance
>> burden at least.
>>
>> -n
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 10:25 AM, Stephan Hoyer  wrote:
>> > We certainly can (and probably should) deprecate this, but we can't
>> > remove
>> > it for a very long time.
>> >
>> > np.iterable is used in a lot of third party code.
>> >
>> > On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 7:09 PM, Joseph Fox-Rabinovitz
>> >  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I have created a PR to deprecate `np.iterable`
>> >> (https://github.com/numpy/numpy/pull/7202). It is a very old function,
>> >> introduced as a utility in 2005
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> (https://github.com/numpy/numpy/commit/052a7b2e3276a303be1083022fc24d43084d2e14),
>> >> and there is no good reason for it to be part of the public API. It is
>> >> used internally 10 times within numpy. I have repaced those usages
>> >> with a private function `np.lib.function_base._iterable` and added a
>> >> `DeprecationWarning` to the public function.
>> >>
>> >> Is there anyone that objects to deprecating this function?
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >>
>> >> -Joseph
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[Numpy-discussion] Hook in __init__.py to let distributors patch numpy

2016-02-11 Thread Matthew Brett
Hi,

Over at https://github.com/numpy/numpy/issues/5479 we're discussing
Windows wheels.

On thing that we would like to be able to ship Windows wheels, is to
be able to put some custom checks into numpy when you build the
wheels.

Specifically, for Windows, we're building on top of ATLAS BLAS /
LAPACK, and we need to check that the system on which the wheel is
running, has SSE2 instructions, otherwise we know ATLAS will crash
(almost everybody does have SSE2 these days).

The way I propose we do that, is this patch here:

https://github.com/numpy/numpy/pull/7231

diff --git a/numpy/__init__.py b/numpy/__init__.py
index 0fcd509..ba3ba16 100644
--- a/numpy/__init__.py
+++ b/numpy/__init__.py
@@ -190,6 +190,12 @@ def pkgload(*packages, **options):
 test = testing.nosetester._numpy_tester().test
 bench = testing.nosetester._numpy_tester().bench

+# Allow platform-specific build to intervene in numpy init
+try:
+from . import _distributor_init
+except ImportError:
+pass
+
 from . import core
 from .core import *
 from . import compat

So, numpy __init__.py looks for a module `_distributor_init`, in which
the distributor might have put custom code to do any checks and
initialization needed for the particular platform.  We don't by
default ship a `_distributor_init.py` but leave it up to packagers to
generate this when building binaries.

Does that sound like a sensible approach to y'all?

Cheers,

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Re: [Numpy-discussion] Hook in __init__.py to let distributors patch numpy

2016-02-11 Thread Michael Sarahan
+1.  This seems nicer than patching __init__.py itself, in that it is much
more transparent.

Good idea.
Michael

On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 7:19 PM Matthew Brett 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Over at https://github.com/numpy/numpy/issues/5479 we're discussing
> Windows wheels.
>
> On thing that we would like to be able to ship Windows wheels, is to
> be able to put some custom checks into numpy when you build the
> wheels.
>
> Specifically, for Windows, we're building on top of ATLAS BLAS /
> LAPACK, and we need to check that the system on which the wheel is
> running, has SSE2 instructions, otherwise we know ATLAS will crash
> (almost everybody does have SSE2 these days).
>
> The way I propose we do that, is this patch here:
>
> https://github.com/numpy/numpy/pull/7231
>
> diff --git a/numpy/__init__.py b/numpy/__init__.py
> index 0fcd509..ba3ba16 100644
> --- a/numpy/__init__.py
> +++ b/numpy/__init__.py
> @@ -190,6 +190,12 @@ def pkgload(*packages, **options):
>  test = testing.nosetester._numpy_tester().test
>  bench = testing.nosetester._numpy_tester().bench
>
> +# Allow platform-specific build to intervene in numpy init
> +try:
> +from . import _distributor_init
> +except ImportError:
> +pass
> +
>  from . import core
>  from .core import *
>  from . import compat
>
> So, numpy __init__.py looks for a module `_distributor_init`, in which
> the distributor might have put custom code to do any checks and
> initialization needed for the particular platform.  We don't by
> default ship a `_distributor_init.py` but leave it up to packagers to
> generate this when building binaries.
>
> Does that sound like a sensible approach to y'all?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Matthew
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