[Mailman-Users] Cannot get rid of default footers
I've read several of the posts about changing the footers. I've made changes to the footer in the non-digest and digest options, but they do not get applied. I've also emabled personalization, but did not see any other options. Is there somewhere else I should look? Thanks Mike ------ Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Mailman Subscriber List Evaporated! HEEELLLPPP!
Hi, I'm hoping someone can help. My web hosting provider offers Mailman as their list software of choice, and as a Python neophyte, I think it's a good choice. :-) Problem is this: They recently migrated to another server. Right before this migration, I made a "complete" backup via the Cpanel X interface. So now you know where this is heading... Yesterday, I tried to send a message to the list and could not! The mail bounced. I just send a test message a moment ago, here's what I got: =-=-=-=-=-=-=-= This message was created automatically by mail delivery software (Exim). A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed: pipe to |/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/mail/wrapper post statesvillespoiler_pferris.com generated by [EMAIL PROTECTED] Child process of virtual_address_pipe transport returned 1 from command: /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/mail/wrapper The following text was generated during the delivery attempt: -- pipe to |/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/mail/wrapper post statesvillespoiler_pferris.com generated by [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman error: post got bad listname: statesvillespoiler_pferris.com -- This is a copy of the message, including all the headers. -- Quoth The Raven, "'Tis only a test, and nothing more!" *Please delete this message!* =-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Sooo, can someone shed some light on what's going on?! It appears as it my WHP (Web Host Provider) mailer "knows" this is a mailman list (note the "pipe to |/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/mail/wrapper post statesvillespoiler_pferris.com" -- why would it go to any Mailman directory if the list didn't exist, and not instead bounce as "unknown recipient" or whatever?!). YET, it's obviously having problems! The Control Panel (Cpanel X) --> Mail Manager --> Mailing List Maintenance says "There are currently no active mailing lists." for me. Notice the word "active"? What does that mean, vis-à-vis a dormant list?!). I had nearly 700 subscribers. I don't want to rebuild the list (and possibly clobber any chance of saving the old one). Questions: 1) Any chance at all of resurrecting the list? 2) I've corresponded with my WHP admin, he's ready and willing to help, but neither of us knows WHERE mailman keeps my list, what it's called and WHY Mailman suddenly isn't seeing it (remember, this was a server migration - that may or may not have anything to do with the problem!). 3) What are the odds that there's a current subscriber list in my recent backup? Where would it be? Note this "backup" seems to backup my FTP area files, and very few 'system' files, so if it's in "/usr/local/somewhere...", I'm probably doomed, but perhaps my admin can find it in his backup. He's willing to look if I can give him a clue where to look! 4) What can do to help? 5) What can my admin do to help? I have a subscriber list backup, as a TEXT file. Alas, it's about 6 months old, so I'll be loosing a fair number of subscribers (ones that have since UNsubscribed for whatever reason, and I'll lose those that have subscribed after the backup was made. Something's better than nothing, I guess. I HOPE this isn't my only option!) Please "cc" any replies to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] THANKS EVER SO MUCH! --Pete ------ Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Mass members download feature
Hi! I really like Mailman. Thank you guys. But there is a question: Why where is no Cgi-UI option for to allow an admin to download all list members as text file suitable for mass subscription? Or there IS such Web-interface option and I've just missed it? Best wishes Maxim Yakubenko -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Admin Attachments
Can anyone explain to me why emails to a list administrator contain the footer as an attachment? Regular list posts do not do so. Is there a wayt to change that behavior? Thanks! -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] 2.1a4 approving users not working
I have a problem with my installation of 2.1a4: I have created a test list which requires confirmation and approval to add users. New users can fill out a form ok and receive the first email. After they confirm they are added to the pending requests and the list admin is notified. Going to the admin page gives the 4 options: defer, approve, reject, discard but only reject (and defer) work. Approving or discarding gives a report that the database is updated and sometimes returns a screen with the new user apparently processed because they are not listed. On refreshing the page however they re-appear. No email is sent confirming the subscription if approved. Mandrake 8.1 is the base system Postfix is the MTA and specified in the Mailman config I've tried Python 2.1.1, 2.1.2 and 2.2. I sometimes see errors complaning about a different linked library with bsddb3 (ie from bin/genaliases) I guess this is an installation/compatability problem rather than a bug as I haven't seen any reports of ay similar problems. Anyone got any ideas please? -- Colin Mackinlay ------ Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] 2.1a4 Approving users not working
I have a problem with my installation of 2.1a4: I have created a test list which requires confirmation and approval to add users. New users can fill out a form ok and receive the first email. After they confirm they are added to the pending requests and the list admin is notified. Going to the admin page gives the 4 options: defer, approve, reject, discard but only reject (and defer) work. Approving or discarding gives a report that the database is updated and sometimes returns a screen with the new user apparently processed because they are not listed. On refreshing the page however they re-appear. No email is sent confirming the subscription if approved. Mandrake 8.1 is the base system Postfix is the MTA and specified in the Mailman config I've tried Python 2.1.1, 2.1.2 and 2.2. I sometimes see errors complaning about a different linked library with bsddb3 (ie from bin/genaliases) I guess this is an installation/compatability problem rather than a bug as I haven't seen any reports of ay similar problems. Anyone got any ideas please? -- Colin Mackinlay ------ Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] modifying archive setup
I would like to modify the way mailman's archives appear. I figured out how to change the archive directories to have .shtml files instead of .html so I can use server side includes for headers/footers to match the rest of my site. Now I need to modify it so the actual files within the archives end in .html AND a copy in .shtml format. In other words, I want the file in the archive: http://mysite.com/pipermail/myslit_mysite.com/2002-April/00.html to be 2002-April/00.shtml and 2002-April/00.html (one will be a printer friendly version and the .shtml file will have headers, footers, etc) Any hints as to where to look to make these changes will be greatly appreciated! Valerie -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] Click to remove links
Hi, I'm in the process of implementing a large bulk mailing project for all the subscribers of a particular magazine who have supplied their email address. Due to the general nature of people, we'd like it if there was a simple way for users to click a link and have themselves removed (i.e. without having to enter any information), at MOST hitting a submit button. Of course this requires inserting a different url in each outgoing message and whether I can do that from the getgo is unclear on the site. Also, we were hoping to have this list ina SQL database for reporting and searching purposes, is there a way to implement this with mailman? If mailman isn't quite the right tool for this can anyone recommend any other? Thanks, Dan Mahoney -- "Your future hasn't been written yet; no one's has. So make it a good one!" -"Doc" Emmet L. Browne, Back to the Future III Dan Mahoney Techie, Sysadmin, WebGeek Gushi on efnet/undernet IRC ICQ: 13735144 AIM: LarpGM Web: http://prime.gushi.org finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for pgp public key and tel# --- ------ Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] mailman idea.
I know I have created a maillist for all my friends so if I am leaving I can email them all at once. I just run into the problem every now and then that i can remember whose emails is whose. Is there a way to add an option for people to maybe enter there there name, be it first with last initial or someting. Just something to help identify whose email is whose?? Thanks. LB -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] stupid mistake?
Hello, Believe it or not, I am having trouble building mailman. I have done it in the past with a previous version on a different machine. I made a detailed log describing my individual steps. FreeBSD 4.6 Postfix 1.1.11 Mailman 2.0.13 Step 1: Unpacked tar in /root/mailman-2.0.13/ Step 2: Added line in /etc/group/ mailman:*:1002: Step 3: Added line in /etc/passwd mailman:*:1002:1002:GNU Mailman:/home/mailman:/nonexistent Step 4: Added line in /etc/master.passwd mailman:*:1002:1002::0:0:GNU Mailman:/home/mailman:/nonexistent Step 5: Decided that $prefix shall be /usr/local/mailman/ Step 6: Executed in csh, #mkdir /usr/local/mailman/ Step 7: Executed in csh, #chown mailman:mailman /usr/local/mailman/ Step 8: Verified Step 7 Step 9: Executed in csh, #cd /usr/local/mailman/ Step 10: Executed in csh, #chgrp mailman . Step 11: Executed in csh, #chmod a+rs,g+ws . Step 12: Executed in csh, #set MAILHOST=frybread.stuorg.iastate.edu Step 13: Executed in csh, #set WWWHOST=www.frybread.stuorg.iastate.edu Step 14: Executed in csh, #export MAILHOST WWWHOST export: Command not found. Step 15: Executed in csh, # /root/mailman-2.0.13/configure --prefix=/usr/local/mailman/ --with-mail-gid=postfix --with-cgi-gid=nobody Step 16: Returned data from configure: checking for default fully qualified host name... frybread.stuorg.iastate.edu checking for default URL host component... frybread.stuorg.iastate.edu The big question: It doesn't seem to have listened to MAILHOST and WWWHOST from steps 12-14. Step 17: Executed in csh, #cd /root/mailman-2.0.13/ Step 18: Executed in csh, #make install make: don't know how to make install. Stop Step 19: Assuming Line 102 in INSTALL is wrong or misplaced. I will try 'make' first and then 'make install' Step 20: Executed in csh, #make make: no target to make. Step 21: Give up on install... Tim ------ Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] 'unknown user' error
I created a small list with 4 subscribers. After sending the first e-mail, I get this bounced back to me. I never entered a user with this name, no record of this user is listed in ~/logs/subscribe I have been puzzled over this for about the past hour or so. BTW, thanks to all those who helped me with my install. Once made, the rest of the install went off without a single problem. >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Sep 3 16:24:02 2002 Status: RO X-Status: Return-Path: Received: from pop-2.iastate.edu (pop-2.iastate.edu [129.186.1.62]) by pop-5.iastate.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g83LO2gi011035 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 16:24:02 -0500 Received: from mailin-2.iastate.edu (mailin-2.iastate.edu [129.186.140.12]) by pop-2.iastate.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with SMTP id g83LO1rd024596 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 16:24:01 -0500 Received: from frybread.stuorg.iastate.edu(129.186.47.113) by mailin-2.iastate.edu via csmap id 5658; Tue, 03 Sep 2002 16:23:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: by frybread.stuorg.iastate.edu (Postfix) id 011C9FF4B; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 16:27:33 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 16:27:33 -0500 (CDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mail Delivery System) Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; boundary="CEABEFE00.1031088453/frybread.stuorg.iastate.edu" Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-UIDL: bd46b13ab3517c98fc70708c20c22111 This is a MIME-encapsulated message. --CEABEFE00.1031088453/frybread.stuorg.iastate.edu Content-Description: Notification Content-Type: text/plain This is the Postfix program at host frybread.stuorg.iastate.edu. I'm sorry to have to inform you that the message returned below could not be delivered to one or more destinations. For further assistance, please send mail to If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete your own text from the message returned below. The Postfix program <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: unknown user: "symposium" --CEABEFE00.1031088453/frybread.stuorg.iastate.edu Content-Description: Delivery error report Content-Type: message/delivery-status Reporting-MTA: dns; frybread.stuorg.iastate.edu Arrival-Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 16:27:32 -0500 (CDT) Final-Recipient: rfc822; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Action: failed Status: 5.0.0 Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; unknown user: "symposium" --CEABEFE00.1031088453/frybread.stuorg.iastate.edu Content-Description: Undelivered Message Content-Type: message/rfc822 Received: from mailhub-1.iastate.edu (mailhub-1.iastate.edu [129.186.140.3]) by frybread.stuorg.iastate.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEABEFE00 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 16:27:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mailout-1.iastate.edu (mailout-1.iastate.edu [129.186.140.1]) by mailhub-1.iastate.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA23815 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 16:24:01 -0500 Received: from isua5.iastate.edu(129.186.1.205) by mailout-1.iastate.edu via csmap id 31268; Tue, 03 Sep 2002 16:32:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (legg@localhost) by isua5.iastate.edu (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA12004 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 16:24:02 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 16:24:02 -0500 (CDT) From: Tim Legg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Our new mailing list Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII --CEABEFE00.1031088453/frybread.stuorg.iastate.edu-- ---------- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] 'unknown user' error
Let's just pretend I didn't ask this. I did a major Homer Simpson-ish DOH and forgot to do the aliases. Took me all afternoon to figure it out. I guess I got so carried away and went into a wild-eyed daze once I went into the list creation phase. I love mailman... On Tue, 3 Sep 2002, Mailman wrote: > I created a small list with 4 subscribers. After sending the first > e-mail, I get this bounced back to me. I never entered a user with this > name, no record of this user is listed in ~/logs/subscribe > > I have been puzzled over this for about the past hour or so. > > BTW, thanks to all those who helped me with my install. Once made, the > rest of the install went off without a single problem. > > >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Sep 3 16:24:02 2002 > Status: RO > X-Status: > Return-Path: > Received: from pop-2.iastate.edu (pop-2.iastate.edu [129.186.1.62]) > by pop-5.iastate.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g83LO2gi011035 > for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 16:24:02 -0500 > Received: from mailin-2.iastate.edu (mailin-2.iastate.edu [129.186.140.12]) > by pop-2.iastate.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0) with SMTP id g83LO1rd024596 > for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 16:24:01 -0500 > Received: from frybread.stuorg.iastate.edu(129.186.47.113) by mailin-2.iastate.edu >via csmap >id 5658; Tue, 03 Sep 2002 16:23:32 -0500 (CDT) > Received: by frybread.stuorg.iastate.edu (Postfix) > id 011C9FF4B; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 16:27:33 -0500 (CDT) > Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 16:27:33 -0500 (CDT) > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mail Delivery System) > Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; > boundary="CEABEFE00.1031088453/frybread.stuorg.iastate.edu" > Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > X-UIDL: bd46b13ab3517c98fc70708c20c22111 > > This is a MIME-encapsulated message. > > --CEABEFE00.1031088453/frybread.stuorg.iastate.edu > Content-Description: Notification > Content-Type: text/plain > > This is the Postfix program at host frybread.stuorg.iastate.edu. > > I'm sorry to have to inform you that the message returned > below could not be delivered to one or more destinations. > > For further assistance, please send mail to > > If you do so, please include this problem report. You can > delete your own text from the message returned below. > > The Postfix program > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: unknown user: "symposium" > > --CEABEFE00.1031088453/frybread.stuorg.iastate.edu > Content-Description: Delivery error report > Content-Type: message/delivery-status > > Reporting-MTA: dns; frybread.stuorg.iastate.edu > Arrival-Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 16:27:32 -0500 (CDT) > > Final-Recipient: rfc822; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Action: failed > Status: 5.0.0 > Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; unknown user: "symposium" > > --CEABEFE00.1031088453/frybread.stuorg.iastate.edu > Content-Description: Undelivered Message > Content-Type: message/rfc822 > > Received: from mailhub-1.iastate.edu (mailhub-1.iastate.edu [129.186.140.3]) > by frybread.stuorg.iastate.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEABEFE00 > for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 16:27:32 -0500 >(CDT) > Received: from mailout-1.iastate.edu (mailout-1.iastate.edu [129.186.140.1]) > by mailhub-1.iastate.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA23815 > for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 16:24:01 -0500 > Received: from isua5.iastate.edu(129.186.1.205) by mailout-1.iastate.edu via csmap >id 31268; Tue, 03 Sep 2002 16:32:48 -0500 (CDT) > Received: from localhost (legg@localhost) > by isua5.iastate.edu (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA12004 > for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 16:24:02 -0500 >(CDT) > Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 16:24:02 -0500 (CDT) > From: Tim Legg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Our new mailing list > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > > > > > > --CEABEFE00.1031088453/frybread.stuorg.iastate.edu-- > > > > > ------------------ > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Making a one way list
On Thu, 5 Sep 2002, Jules Siegel wrote: > How do I configure a Mailman list so that it's one way -- that is I > can send mail but subscribers can't reply to the list? Will just > setting the reply to function to specific sender work? Or is there > another more secure way to do this? One option would be to make the list moderated and only approve your own postings. Another option would be to set member_posting_only to 'no' and then list yourself as the only address allowed to post. For reference, from the 'Details' of the 'poster' option (under Privacy): Adding entries here will have one of two effects, according to whether another option restricts posting to members. - If member_posting_only is 'yes', then entries added here will have posting privilege in addition to list members. - If member_posting_only is 'no', then only the posters listed here will be able to post without admin approval. Setting the Reply-To function will not do what you want, because that really is just a short-cut that more or less encourages replies to go a certain way: Anyone is free to simply change the To, and CC values after hitting reply ... or just compose a message from scratch, addressed to your list. Hope that helps. - Andrew -------- Mailman Administrator - http://www.tux.org/mailman/listinfo/ ------ Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Could not acquire qrunner lock
I have seen a similar situation on my installation of Mailman. The key is the repetition of the one message in your qrunner log. An easy way to fix this is to mv /home/mailman/qfiles/001b6903fc7ad5bdcdfa930711200d5a1306e7af* aside (into another directory, that is) (or just rm if you don't care about what that message might be). Things should improve considerably once you do this. - Andrew ---- Mailman Administrator - http://www.tux.org/mailman/listinfo/ On Mon, 9 Sep 2002, Brian Teal wrote: > I've had some terrible Mailman performance lately, I am running two > mailing lists off of a Unix box, and I have been looking through the > files and found a lot of what is listed below, could this be a problem? > List posts are sometimes showing up and most of the time not. So I'm > trying to track it down. > > Sep 02 10:53:04 2002 (6890) Could not acquire qrunner lock > Sep 02 10:54:04 2002 (7065) Could not acquire qrunner lock > Sep 02 10:55:05 2002 (7252) Could not acquire qrunner lock > Sep 02 11:03:05 2002 (8661) Could not acquire qrunner lock > Sep 02 11:04:04 2002 (8759) Could not acquire qrunner lock > Sep 02 11:05:06 2002 (8991) Could not acquire qrunner lock > Sep 02 12:02:04 2002 (18344) Could not acquire qrunner lock > Sep 02 13:07:03 2002 (28184) Unlinking orphaned .db file: > /home/mailman/qfiles/001b6903fc7ad5bdcdfa930711200d5a1306e7$ > Sep 02 13:08:03 2002 (28407) Exception reading qfile: > /home/mailman/qfiles/001b6903fc7ad5bdcdfa930711200d5a1306e7af > [Errno 2] No such file or directory: > '/home/mailman/qfiles/001b6903fc7ad5bdcdfa930711200d5a1306e7af.db' > Sep 02 13:09:04 2002 (28540) Could not acquire qrunner lock > Sep 02 13:10:06 2002 (28747) Could not acquire qrunner lock > Sep 02 13:11:04 2002 (28872) Could not acquire qrunner lock > Sep 02 13:12:04 2002 (29044) Could not acquire qrunner lock > Sep 02 13:13:06 2002 (29261) Could not acquire qrunner lock > Sep 02 13:14:04 2002 (29488) Could not acquire qrunner lock > Sep 02 13:15:06 2002 (29619) Could not acquire qrunner lock > Sep 02 13:16:03 2002 (29872) Exception reading qfile: > /home/mailman/qfiles/001b6903fc7ad5bdcdfa930711200d5a1306e7af > [Errno 2] No such file or directory: > '/home/mailman/qfiles/001b6903fc7ad5bdcdfa930711200d5a1306e7af.db' > Sep 02 13:17:03 2002 (29982) Exception reading qfile: > /home/mailman/qfiles/001b6903fc7ad5bdcdfa930711200d5a1306e7af > [Errno 2] No such file or directory: > '/home/mailman/qfiles/001b6903fc7ad5bdcdfa930711200d5a1306e7af.db' > Sep 02 13:18:04 2002 (30155) Exception reading qfile: > /home/mailman/qfiles/001b6903fc7ad5bdcdfa930711200d5a1306e7af > [Errno 2] No such file or directory: > '/home/mailman/qfiles/001b6903fc7ad5bdcdfa930711200d5a1306e7af.db' > Sep 02 13:19:03 2002 (30298) Exception reading qfile: > /home/mailman/qfiles/001b6903fc7ad5bdcdfa930711200d5a1306e7af > [Errno 2] No such file or directory: > '/home/mailman/qfiles/001b6903fc7ad5bdcdfa930711200d5a1306e7af.db' -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Migrating a list...
On Tue, 10 Sep 2002, Angel Gabriel wrote: > I have about 3k emaill addresses, that I want to put on a mailman > list. These have been collated from a web form, and are stored in a > txt file, one after the other. I attempted to add them via the web > interface, but that seemed to mess up mailman, until I removed the > list. Is there any other way to add the addresses? Certainly: the add_members utility in the bin directory of your Mailman installation. Do "add_members -h" for notes on the syntax. You will find many useful things in that bin directory; it is well worth it to take the time to poke around and become familiar with them. - Andrew -------- Mailman Administrator - http://www.tux.org/mailman/listinfo/ ------ Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Couple of Questions
On Tue, 10 Sep 2002, Jeffrey M. Johnson wrote: > I have an individual who moderatored about a dozen lists who is > changing positions and is no longer going to moderate these lists. > Is there any tools that I can use that will scan all the Databases and > tell me which lists they moderate or produce just the moderators for > the lists with a single command. Sure; try: for i in `list_lists | grep ' - ' | sed 's/^ *\(.*\) - .*$/\1/'`; do \ echo -n "$i "; \ config_list -o - $i | grep '^owner = ' | \ sed 's/^owner = //' | \ sed 's/\[//'| \ sed 's/\]//'| \ sed "s/'//g"; done That's two TABs after $i between the quotes on the second line ... but your favorite whitespace formatting will work. Likewise, adjust the sed commands to your liking. To make this even handier, I have a shell script called list_owners that has as its only command the above command; I keep it in the Mailman bin directory so it is always within reach. config_list (with -o) dumps out the entire config for a given list, with extensive annotation (the syntax is -o FILE; '-' stands in for stdout). config_list also has a -i switch for updating the config of a given list from a file like the file it dumps out. config_list -h for more info. Hope that helps. - Andrew ---- Mailman Administrator - http://www.tux.org/mailman/listinfo/ -------------- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] List too big to load...
On Wed, 11 Sep 2002, Angel Gabriel wrote: > Is it possible to manage the list from the command line? I just wnt to > know how many people are on the list, and also stop them from posting. > (It's an announce list) Both of these questions were answered in the past few days. To administer your lists on the command line, explore the various utilities in Mailman's bin directory. There's lots of good stuff there, and as also illustrated in recent postings, they're even better when joined together via command pipelines. To make a list announce-only, go to "Privacy Options" and set 'Restrict posting privilege to list members?' to "No" -AND- add only yourself to the next field, 'Addresses of members accepted for posting to this list ...' Someone else also pointed out that the announce-only question is answered in the FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq03.011.htp Other helpful FAQ links: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=index - Andrew ---- Mailman Administrator - http://www.tux.org/mailman/listinfo/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
RE: [Mailman-Users] Re: Bouncing Mail - How is it treated?
On Wed, 18 Sep 2002, Angel Gabriel wrote: > Could someone explain to me what VERP is?? lol thanks! I had to go looking myself after reading the recent e-mails; here is some of what I found: http://cr.yp.to/proto/verp.txt http://www.cyberdesk.com/qmail/qmail-queue.html http://www.stllinux.org/meeting_notes/1998/0521/verp.html http://www.stllinux.org/meeting_notes/1998/0521/bounces.html (Apparently, VERP is also "Visitor Experience and Resource Protection", a strategy used by the National Park Service. But I don't think Mailman will have anything to do with that ;-) - Andrew ---- Mailman Administrator - http://www.tux.org/mailman/listinfo/ ------ Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
RE: [Mailman-Users] Blocking Unsubscribe?
On Wed, 18 Sep 2002, Tom Ryan wrote: > The latest betas of mailman can allow the admin to block unsubscribe > requests. However, you can't block the users setting "nomail", etc. > > Seems we're almost there, just not quite :) Please note however, Nathan, the use of the word "beta" in Tom's reply. I am sure you have read on the Mailman site that v2.1 is in development, and explicitly -not- recommended for production mailing list service, and that good ole' v2.0.x is the current stable version (v2.0.13 is the latest). It sounds like you are definitely running a production service, so I just wanted to emphasize the point, in case it had missed your eye. HTH, - Andrew -------- Mailman Administrator - http://www.tux.org/mailman/listinfo/ ------ Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] General Posting Filters (Privacy?)
Hi Daniel - You don't actually get around to stating what the problem is; what exactly does not work? Also, what -portion- of the thing that does not work -dose- work; i.e., if the problem is "Posts are not going out to the list", where does the posted e-mail stop? Is it utterly rejected? Is it posted but being held for approval? What do your MTA and Mailman logs show about how far the message made it? With some more detail (and an actual problem statement :-) someone on the list may be able to help. - Andrew ---- Mailman Administrator - http://www.tux.org/mailman/listinfo/ On Sun, 22 Sep 2002, Daniel Katz wrote: > We're using a current install of Mailman 2.0.6 and I tried going > through the diff logs to find if this bug (or is it a bug?) was fixed > or not with no success. > > I thought maybe you guys can shed some light on the subject. > > I setup a list for archival purposes and want the whole world to be > able to post to it. Reading through some of the user submitted > documentation I set the _General Posting Filters_ to reflect. > > Must posts be approved by an administrator? -> No Restrict posting > privilege to list members? (member_posting_only) -> No Addresses of > members accepted for posting to this list without implicit approval > requirement -> (Blank) > > Is this just a 2.0.6 bug or is this an issue that has not been looked > at. > > Thanks in advance. > > -dK ---------- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Uninstall Mailman
On Sun, 22 Sep 2002, Maria Garcia Suarez wrote: > Now I would like to uninstall Mailman 2.0.13 to > install it again using Debian's apt-get (Mailman's > version 2.0.11). > > Can someone please tell me how to uninstall Mailman? It depends on how much you want to remove. Since it sounds like you plan to put Mailman back after you uninstall, I am going to assume that you want to keep the same www aliases and list aliases that you already have (i.e., you will use the same URLs and list addresses after you re-install Mailman). All you need to do is delete the directory where you installed Mailman. For example, on my system, it is the default location, "/home/mailman". If you might want to keep anything from the old installation, you may just want to move the current installed directory aside instead of deleting it entirely. (In particular, you may want to keep /home/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py) For example, you might do ONE of the following (or similar): mv -i /home/mailman /home/mailman.old mv -i /home/mailman /tmp tar cv -f /tmp/mailman-2.0.13.tar /home/mailman I recommend the above approach, but if you are certain that you will not want anything from the old directory, then just: rm -R /home/mailman Don't forget to re-create the Mailman install directory before starting the re-install. Also, if you -are- keeping the former list addresses, be sure to re-create the lists. (To more fully remove Mailman from your system, you would also need to remove web server aliases, the user and group called 'mailman', the list aliases from your MTA's aliases file(s), and Mailman's cron entries.) Fellow Mailman site admins: did I miss anything? > Kisses, > > Maria G Suarez Hugs, - Andrew ---- Mailman Administrator - http://www.tux.org/mailman/listinfo/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Importing messages to archives
Van - The key here is to note that a Mailman archive is more than just the mbox file. There are many other supporting files, including pre-gen'd HTML files and a whole set of database files. The trick to editing the mbox file for a list archive and having the edits recognized is to do just as Jon has done: use the arch command (see the bin directory in your Mailman installation directory). From ~mailman/bin/arch -h ... Use this command to rebuild the archives for a mailing list. You may want to do this if you edit some messages in an archive, or remove some messages from an archive. So, use arch whether you are adding messages, removing messages, editing existing messages, or replacing an entire archive with a whole new set of messages (as Jon did). HTH. - Andrew ---- Mailman Administrator - http://www.tux.org/mailman/listinfo/ On 23 Sep 2002, Jon Carnes wrote: > I've done something similar in the past and there is no special header > (that I know of). > > In my case, I created the list in Mailman, deleted the existing > archive files (which where simply test messages). Copied the old > lists mbox file over the Mailman one, then ran the Mailman arch > command, and told it to re-create the archives. Worked a charm! > > On Mon, 2002-09-23 at 04:35, G. Armour Van Horn wrote: > > Greetings, > > > > I have been asked to possibly host a list previously kept in > > another system. They would like to include archives from their > > existing list, and have the messages in mbox format. The format > > appears to be compatible, but when I appended a sample to one of > > my test lists the other messages were not added. > > > > I'm guessing that there is one header that determines if an entry > > is added to the archives, and that the additional messages I added > > to my test list weren't displayed in the archives because they lacked > > that header. Can someone tell me what the header is? If so, I can > > replace that header (or a similar one) from their existing list with > > the header matching the name of their new list and import it. > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Van -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
RE: [Mailman-Users] Blocking Unsubscribe?
On Fri, 20 Sep 2002, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: > >>>>> "TR" == Tom Ryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > TR> Sorry, I should have clarified that.. however, doesn't Barry > TR> need at least *some* people to run the beta under load to help > TR> iron out the problems :) Oh, absolutely! The early adopters play a crucial role in moving the beta toward a solid release. If it were not for these folks, we would all be stuck with being forced to be beta-testers. (Probably paying for the privilege, too, because the best way to make something sub-standard into something valuable is to put a lot of marketing behind it and charge people money for it. For example, Windows 95 and 98 are both (IMHO) beta software that Micro$oft made a pile of money off of on the way toward Windows 2000, all-in-all a solid product.) I -much- prefer the way it is done in the open source community. > TR> Needless to say, I am one of those persons :) > > Yes! And greatly appreciated, not just by me, but by all those other > folks who have to or want to wait until the final release. Every bug > we squash now is one that (hopefully ) won't bite people later. > > -Barry I, too, greatly appreciate the time, energy, efforts, and contributions of those who elect to run with beta versions. I owe a countless debt to you, Tom, and thousands like you, since I use a wide variety of open source software for many aspects of both my personal and professional life. In fact, I would greatly like to join your ranks; alas! I do not have the time to give; I wouldn't even have the time to keep Mailman up to date with the latest beta version, which Barry has pointed out in a recent posting is an important part of being a beta tester. So, my original purpose in waving the yellow flag for Nathan was just to make sure that these aspects were "on the table", in addition to the discussion about the sought-after feature. I had the sense that Nathan is in a situation more like mine, where beta software is (no offense!) to be avoided when possible. - Andrew -------- Mailman Administrator - http://www.tux.org/mailman/listinfo/ -------------- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] RE: Diagnosing duplicates [Was:Now MTAtweaking!]
> I think this is the problem, I saw in the logs something about
> QRUNNER_LOCK_LIFETIME expiring, **wonders how to fix this**
Look in /home/mailman/Mailman/Defaults.py and search for QRUNNER.
You will find the QRUNNER_LOCK_LIFETIME parameter, plus several
related parameters, plus explanatory notes.
Following the general rule, use /home/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py
to override the desired settings that you see in Defaults.py
What parameters do you override and what settings do you use? You
can ask this list for suggested settings from folks in a similar
situation ('similar' I guess applies to list size and frequency of
posts, plus system capabilities and -- probably most important --
connectivity to the outside world (which I see you have already
begun to ask about)). In any case, however, you will probably need
to experiment a little, so some explanatory messages to and patience
from your list members may be needed.
HTH,
- Andrew
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Importing messages to archives
Hmmm ... Just "thinking out loud" for the moment while I continue to think about what you have said below, it sure -sounds- like the process of editing the Subject: line has somehow messed up the headers such that it now looks like the body of the message starts where the Subject line was ... For example, if you took out the Subject: line entirely, the blank line left it its place would look like a header/body separator that would make some headers appear as part of the body, and it would certainly look like the message now had no subject. On the other hand, you say "all" of the headers are displayed (do you really mean "all", or would "most" be more precise?), and of course you are not wiping out the Subject line. What editor are you using? Is it doing anything funny or unexpected with the file when you edit/save it (hint: use od for a byte-by-byte comparison)? I will continue to puzzle this, and try some experiments if possible. In the meantime, try to get an iron grip on what -- exactly -- happens to the file when you edit it (another hint: think of your file as a set of arbitrary bytes, and forget for the moment that the bytes mean something to you). - Andrew -------- Mailman Administrator - http://www.tux.org/mailman/listinfo/ On Mon, 23 Sep 2002, G. Armour Van Horn wrote: > Okay, now we're half way home. The messages that I pasted in are all > now visible in the archives for the appropriate time, but every one is > listed as "No subject" and when you read them all of the original > headers are displayed. > > There is a valid subject line, I'm replacing the three-letter name of > the previous list with ABC: > > Subject: [ABC] Detailed Charge Master Report > > Ass opposed to the same header if I send it in directly: > > Subject: [Test] test to look at headers > > So, do I need to replace headers on the additional messages to make > this work? Or should it have already worked? > > Van ------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] 2.0.13 pipermail problem
On Mon, 23 Sep 2002, Palo Segec wrote: > I have problem with pipermail archive of the mailman 2.0.13 > distribution, I'd done installation as was at INSTALL file, but I > can't access to the pipermail archive. Answer from web server is > > The requested URL /pipermail/list/ was not found on this server. NOT > FOUND. First, make sure you did -all- of the following: - Configure your web server to point to the Pipermail public mailing list archives: For example, in Apache: Alias /pipermail/ $varprefix/archives/public/ where $varprefix is usually $prefix unless you've used the --with-var-prefix option to configure. Consult your web server's documentation for details. Also be sure to configure your web server to follow symbolic links in this directory, otherwise public Pipermail archives won't be accessible. For Apache users, consult the FollowSymLinks option. Now restart your web server. I realize you said you followed the INSTALL file (where the above text comes from), but it won't hurt to double check. In particular, make sure your web server is configured to follow symbolic links, and make sure you restart your web server (to get it to recognize your changes). Also, make sure you are using whatever $varprefix equates to (e.g., "/home/mailman" for a default install), not literally "$varprefix" or "$prefix". If the problem persists, you may find it helpful to Alias "/pipermail/" to something else that you know exists, such as a location that is already reachable via some other web server Alias on your machine. If you cannot get "/pipermail/" to point at something that is otherwise accessible, the issue is somehow related to your webserver; if you can get it to point at something else but not your Mailman archives, you missed -something- in the Mailman installation. HTH - Andrew ---- Mailman Administrator - http://www.tux.org/mailman/listinfo/ ---------- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Is there a way to change to archiving settingafter list has already been created?
On Mon, 23 Sep 2002, David A Gilbert wrote: > I need to change a bunch of existing lists that are currently doing 2 > below (archive to both mbox and builtin mailman html archiving) to 1 > below (archive to mbox to use an external archiving mechanism only). > # ARCHIVE_TO_MBOX > #-1 - do not do any archiving > # 0 - do not archive to mbox, use builtin mailman html archiving only > # 1 - archive to mbox to use an external archiving mechanism only > # 2 - archive to both mbox and builtin mailman html archiving - > # use this to make both external archiving mechanism work and > # mailman's builtin html archiving. the flat mail file can be > # useful for searching, external archivers, etc. > # > ARCHIVE_TO_MBOX = 2 (assuming v2.0.x; this may also apply to v2.1) Note that "ARCHIVE_TO_MBOX" is a global setting (and that is why there is nothing in the config dumps related to it). You can change it by overriding it in your mm_cfg.py file, but it will affect all of your lists for which archiving is turned on. - Andrew ---- Mailman Administrator - http://www.tux.org/mailman/listinfo/ ------ Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] newsletter question
On Mon, 23 Sep 2002, J. Alec West wrote: > I'm considering switching to a webhost that allows Mailman use and had > one simple question. Can Mailman be set up to be used as a newsletter > ... that is sent to a number of subscribers in such a way that > subscribers cannot "reply" to the subscriber-list? Setting up "one-way" lists must be the most popular question on this list ... To make a list announce-only, go to "Privacy Options" and set 'Restrict posting privilege to list members?' to "No" -AND- add only yourself to the next field, 'Addresses of members accepted for posting to this list ...' (Note that the subscribers can always -attempt- to reply to the list; there is nothing you can do to stop that; even if you set the Reply-To header, folks can construct a new message any way they want. But, their attempts to post will be thwarted.) See also: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq03.011.htp That FAQ is a great resource; see: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=index - Andrew ---- Mailman Administrator - http://www.tux.org/mailman/listinfo/ ------ Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] configuring mailman for a simpler purpose
On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, drumguru wrote: > Hi! My new hosting service, clevelandhosting.com, has recommended > Mailman. I have need of a simple "one way" newletter email program to > broadcast announcements to my customer email list, with the only > recipient options being to subscribe or unsubscribe: no discussion > features, etc. Is mailman configurable to do this or should I look > elsewhere? To make a list announce-only, go to "Privacy Options" and set 'Restrict posting privilege to list members?' to "No" -AND- add only yourself to the next field, 'Addresses of members accepted for posting to this list ...' See also: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq03.011.htp http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=index - Andrew -------- Mailman Administrator - http://www.tux.org/mailman/listinfo/ ------ Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] How to kill the evil that is sendmail
On Wed, 25 Sep 2002, Angel Gabriel wrote: > What I would like to do, is to get rid of all the email that sendmail > is STILL strying to send. You know when it tries to deliver mail for > up to five days or whatever. I stopped short of uninstalling it, and > re-installing it in case it picks up where it left off. I look in the > mail queue, and I can't see any messages, but I look in the logs, and > it's trying addresses every hour or so. It's making me wonder if, > mailman is the culprit. Because I can't see what mailman is about to > do, I can only see the end results. It's not slowing down my machine, > or anything like that, it's just plain ANNOYING. Any ideas anyone? Don't forget that with Mailman and sendmail (and, likely, any MTA) you are talking about -two- queues: Mailman's and the MTA's. I have never heard of sendmail attempting to send out messages that are not in -its- queue. Use 'mailq' to list sendmail's queue. Or, the direct approach is to look in /var/spool/mqueue (or whatever you may have configured as sendmail's queue directory). Also, no need to reinstall sendmail: just clean out its queue (there are nice ways to do so, and brutal ways, too; go ahead and use the brutal way (rm -f /var/spool/mqueue/*), since I think it'll help provide some stress relief, too :-) (And besides, if you do reinstall sendmail without cleaning out its queue, yes: it will just pick up from where it left off.) If both Mailman's and sendmail's queues are empty and the machine -still- retries sending old messages, you have a gremlin in the box, and you need to throw it into a volcano. (That should also provide a certain amount of stress relief.) Since real gremlins are quite rare, if in fact both Mailman's and sendmail's queues are empty and the machine is sending out messages every hour or so, something -else- is sending -in- new messages every hour or so. - Andrew Mailman Administrator - http://www.tux.org/mailman/listinfo/ ------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail List Encryption
I am inclined to agree with Jon (that what you really want is for your list members to do the encrypting), for an additional reason: if its important that the messages be encrypted on their way -out-, its important that they be encrypted on their way -in-. Don't ask Mailman to do something that is already done (and more appropriately done) by the e-mail client. Since you would already require that list members have or obtain the ability to decrypt postings, it should be the tiniest of steps to also require that they have or obtain the ability to encrypt them. - Andrew ---- Mailman Administrator - http://www.tux.org/mailman/listinfo/ On 25 Sep 2002, Jon Carnes wrote: > I find it hard to believe that you would want an open mailing list > manager like Mailman *and* want to run encrypted email out of it... > > Wouldn't you be happier with a semi-static mailing alias and then having > all your folks use PGP (or GPG) to encrypt their email? > > On Wed, 2002-09-25 at 05:09, Norbert Bollow wrote: > > > I do I setup Mailman so that all emails being sent out are encrypted? > > > Or do I need to specify this in the Sendmail? ------ Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] email list into mailman list
On Wed, 25 Sep 2002, Kalin Mintchev wrote: > On Wed, 25 Sep 2002, Stonewall Ballard wrote: > > > How about using the "Mass Subscription" section under "Membership > > Management" on the admin page? At least in 2.1b3, you can supply > > a file with just addresses. > > > > - Stoney > > cool. that sounds like it... any limitations on how many you can > do at once?... some of those old lists have 4000 - 5000 > subscribers... Using the web interface is only one of your options. The 2.0.x versions (and maybe the 2.1 beta versions as well) come with a utility called (appropriately enough) "add_members". Its a command-line interface for doing -exactly- what you wish to do. Look in bin in your Mailman installation directory. (And while you are there, spend some time poking around. Lots of good stuff in there.) - Andrew ---- Mailman Administrator - http://www.tux.org/mailman/listinfo/ ------ Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] How do I ...
On Wed, 25 Sep 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > configure the mailing list so that no users can post. > > I want is only as a vehicle for me to be able to distribute > information to people who subscribe to my list. Check the FAQ. How do you find the FAQ? Check your welcome message. - Andrew -------- Mailman Administrator - http://www.tux.org/mailman/listinfo/ ------ Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] List Name Guidelines
On Thu, 26 Sep 2002, Raquel Rice wrote: > On Thu, 26 Sep 2002 13:16:28 -0400 > "Dave Warchol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > In testing, I ran into some issues using a special > > character (apostrophe) in the list name, this was in > > an earlier post. Any guidelines to follow when > > specifying the list name? > > Pretty much, a legal filename in *nix. (alphabetic characters, > numeric characters, underscore "_" and, dash "-") Alphanumerics, underscore and dash is a great suggestion, and is what I use myself, but "a legal filename in *nix" is not such a great suggestion. At least in the *nixes that I have dealt with (Solaris, HPUX, and Linux), filenames can contain fun things like space, tab, "!", "@", "$", "&", "*", parenthesis, braces, bracket, angle-brackets, "|", control characters ... lots of stuff. (Those who doubt it, please see below for a small sample.) Some of these are even legal in e-mail addresses, but "alphanumerics, underscore and dash" are certainly the most common and least controversial characters for e-mail addresses and the other places Mailman list names show up. - Andrew Mailman Administrator - http://www.tux.org/mailman/listinfo/ actual ls output: $ ls -l a* -rw-r--r-- 1 ajw01s staff 4 Sep 26 14:37 a b -rw-r--r-- 1 ajw01s staff 4 Sep 26 14:37 a!b -rw-r--r-- 1 ajw01s staff 4 Sep 26 14:38 a"b -rw-r--r-- 1 ajw01s staff 4 Sep 26 14:39 a$b -rw-r--r-- 1 ajw01s staff 4 Sep 26 14:39 a&b -rw-r--r-- 1 ajw01s staff 4 Sep 26 14:38 a'b -rw-r--r-- 1 ajw01s staff 4 Sep 26 14:37 a*b -rw-r--r-- 1 ajw01s staff 4 Sep 26 14:38 ahttp://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] apachectl configtest.. Syntax error: Group takesone argument, Effective group id for this server
On Thu, 26 Sep 2002, Roger Chrisman wrote: > (Mailman doc snip, from /usr/share/doc/packages/mailman/INSTALL): > > --with-cgi-gid= > Specify an alternative group for running scripts via the > CGI wrapper. can be a list of one or > more integer group ids or symbolic group names. The first > value in the list that resolves to an existing group is > >>used. By default, the value is the the list `www www-data > nobody'. Note that the "--with-cgi-gid" option will accept a -list- of groups, but only -one- of them ends up being used. Which one? "The first value in the list that resolves to an existing group is used." (That sentence starts two lines above your ">>" in the above snip.) Do not confuse what "--with-cgi-gid" accepts as an argument with what your web server will accept as an argument for "Group". > What should I have for "Group" in httpd.conf to make Mailman happy? I think you are looking down the wrong end of the telescope. Edit httpd.conf to make your web server happy; supply the correct argument to "--with-cgi-gid" to make Mailman happy. What will make Mailman happy? That which matches your web server configuration. - Andrew Mailman Administrator - http://www.tux.org/mailman/listinfo/ ------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce notification after single bounce?
On Fri, 27 Sep 2002, Genchev, Sergei wrote: > We would really like to identify invalid E-mail > > Any suggestions? Check Mailman's "bounce" log (e.g., ~/mailman/logs/bounce). It should contain log lines about addresses for which Mailman detected a problem, even if Mailman did not (yet) get around to sending an admin notice, etc. - Andrew -------- Mailman Administrator - http://www.tux.org/mailman/listinfo/ ------ Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] is it possible to customize subscription successwelcome message?
On Fri, 27 Sep 2002, Patrick Hsieh wrote: > Hello all, > > I've read the FAQ and can't find any idea about this. (assuming v2.0.x; the same or very similar will certainly apply to v2.1 as well) How about "List-specific text prepended to new-subscriber welcome message"? This is in the admin interface, under "General Options" (i.e., the first page), the 6th item down from the top. - Andrew ---- Mailman Administrator - http://www.tux.org/mailman/listinfo/ ------ Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] nomail control?
On Mon, 30 Sep 2002, Raquel Rice wrote: > On Mon, 30 Sep 2002 10:10:25 -0700 > "Christopher Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Is there a way to control how many times Mailman tries to > > connect to send the message before setting them to 'nomail'? > > Also, I thought that when a user's account was 'disabled' > > the owner received a message indicating this. > > The current "beta" version, 2.1.b3 provides better handling of > bounced messages. You may or may not wish to use a beta version > in your environment. However, I've been using it for several > weeks without problems and I think there are others who have also. ... and if you are going to stick with v2.0.x, note that Mailman's behavior WRT bounces is configurable: see the appropriately named "Bounce Options" section of the list administration interface. - Andrew ---- Mailman Administrator - http://www.tux.org/mailman/listinfo/ -------------- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem getting mailman to work
On Mon, 30 Sep 2002, Zoheb Sait wrote: > Hello, > > I installed mailman on my server, with the all the right flags and stuff, > however mailman is not sending out any emails, no confirmation emails and > not sending mail to any subscribed users. > ... > There is no error in the log files, and the log files also do not show > any activity by mailman except for the mail from the subscribed I am betting you forgot to set up the Mailman crontab entries. See the INSTALL file for details. I am also betting that the directory "qfiles" in your Mailman installation directory has a bunch of messages sitting there, waiting to be delivered. If both of my guesses are correct, once you set up the crontab entries, all of the e-mail you have been expecting will show up. - Andrew ---- Mailman Administrator - http://www.tux.org/mailman/listinfo/ ------ Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help for a new install on Linux
On Mon, 30 Sep 2002, Mark Tilden wrote: > 2. I created a second test list with no spaces in the name. It > works better. However, whenever I send mail to the list server, I > get a "loop back" bounce message from sendmail. Here's the message: > > > This is the Postfix program at host gateway.tildens.org. > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: mail for gateway.tildens.org > > loops back to myself That's a DNS issue. Most often when the "loops back to myself" error shows up, the MX host for the target domain resolves to 127.0.0.1 which clearly creates a loop. Sometimes, a correctly configured MX record will still create this problem if the MTA has not been configured to recognize local mail as such and deliver it differently than other mail it is relaying. i.e., if a given MTA has been configured to relay -everything- based solely on MX records and it discovers that the relay for a given domain is -itself- (even if the MX record does not point to "127.0.0.1") it might issue the "loops back to myself" NDR in that case, too. (Typically, an MTA for a given domain is configured to either deliver mail for that domain locally (i.e., to a mailbox) or to use a specific host as the next-hop relay for that domain (i.e., don't look it up in DNS).) While troubleshooting, remember that the view of DNS from the system in question may be very different from the view of DNS from some other system, even a "neighbor". Take a careful look at things; you claim that bounce message comes from sendmail, but the NDR you provided is from a Postfix MTA. Did you mean "the MTA" instead of "sendmail"? If not, the environment in which you are operating may be quite different from what you believe it to be. HTH - Andrew ---- Mailman Administrator - http://www.tux.org/mailman/listinfo/ -------------- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: Re[2]: [Mailman-Users] is it possible to customize subscriptionsuccess welcome message?
On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, Patrick Hsieh wrote: > I am using mailman 2.0.13 on Debian testing. > If I can't do this in 2.0.x, is there anyway to find out the > new-subscriber welcome message file? I hope I can change the > content of it. Thank you. Okay, sounds like you are talking about changing the entire welcome message, not just adding your own text to it. In that case, you need to edit code. Start with ~/mailman/Mailman/Deliverer.py - Andrew -------- Mailman Administrator - http://www.tux.org/mailman/listinfo/ > On Fri, 27 Sep 2002 23:33:27 -0400 (EDT) > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Fri, 27 Sep 2002, Patrick Hsieh wrote: > > > > > Hello all, > > > > > > I've read the FAQ and can't find any idea about this. > > > > (assuming v2.0.x; the same or very similar will certainly apply to > > v2.1 as well) > > > > How about "List-specific text prepended to new-subscriber welcome > > message"? This is in the admin interface, under "General Options" > > (i.e., the first page), the 6th item down from the top. > > > > - Andrew -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Sending HTML to the email list
On Mon, 7 Oct 2002, Jonathan Chum wrote: > I've sent a HTML document successfully to the list and I'm curious > what will happen to those who cannot read HTML documents properly? Is > there an option in Mailman for subscribers to subscribe to a text only > version, or will that require setting up a new list? The proper way to handle a subscriber base where the capabilities of the end-users' e-mail software varies is to send a multipart message with the same content rendered in various formats. Such messages are called "multipart/alternative" (for obvious reasons) and modern e-mail software will select an appropriate part to display. Modern e-mail software will also -compose- these multipart/alternative messages for you; make sure you are using modern e-mail software and that you have it configured to do this. The down side? Your outgoing message is larger than it needs to be, because it contains the same information more than once. (Also, some formats, like HTML, are "fluffy" -- they are all by themselves larger than they need to be to convey the information.) This is a problem if you pay for your connectivity by the byte, or if you are near your monthly limits or whatever. If connectivity is cheap for you, then you may find this downside to be small. If connectivity is -not- cheap for your subscribers, they may very well ask if you can drop the HTML stuff and just send it plain-text. If you do not mind sending the same message twice - once in HTML and once in plain text - you are certainly free to set up two lists and direct people to subscribe to the one that suits them. The nature of the messages going out, and the nature of your subscriber base will determine whether or not this becomes a huge pain in the neck. For example, this might lead to an administrative nightmare if subscribers become really confused about the two lists, or if your turn-over rate is high, or whatever. Or, it may be a breeze. > Or will Mailman handle this for me? I will hazard a guess that no, Mailman will -never- take care of reposting HTML messages to HTML or plain text (or other formats) based on the subscriber's preference. For one, as I outlined above, accommodating varying e-mail reading software capabilities is already taken care of with an established standard (RFC 2046 (see section 5.1.4 in particular)). For another, there is already plenty of work to do on essential and highly desireable features, to say nothing of docs, etc. What you envision would require Mailman to have a full-blown HTML parser so that it can render things like nested HTML tables into the equivalent formated plain text. For the same reason that Mailman will (I would guess) never contain a spell-checker, I would guess that it will never contain an HTML parser: This is not Mailman's role. - Andrew ------------ Mailman Administrator - http://www.tux.org/mailman/listinfo/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman getting behind (qfiles)
On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, Wayne Walker wrote: > QRUNNER_PROCESS_LIFETIME = minutes(15) > QRUNNER_MAX_MESSAGES = 300 > > So, this thing sits for 15 minutes and reduces the qfiles dir (180 to > 118 in 15 minutes). Any ideas why it would take longer than that? Is it the same messages always sitting around, or a different bunch every time? Also, are you positive that it takes the full 15 minutes for qrunner to reduce the queue, or does it perhaps do what it is going to do very quickly, and then bogs down? Finally, does your qrunner log show anything that might help? The only time I have had a Mailman queue backlog is when there was a bad message in the queue. I moved it aside, and the rest cleared out in good time. The qrunner log was very clear about the problem; one look there, and you may have your answer right away. - Andrew ---- Mailman Administrator - http://www.tux.org/mailman/listinfo/ ------ Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Question about disabling due to bouncingnotification...
On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, Matt Goebel wrote: > Running Mailman 2.0.13 on Tru64 4.0G with sendmail 8.11.6 and > have hopefully a simple question. > > I've had a couple of list owners complain that when their users > (mostly on yahoo.com or hotmail.com) are disable because of > bouncing, they - the list owners - are not notified by email. Does > this feature work consistently? What is the setting for "Action when critical or excessive bounces are detected" for those lists? When you ask "Does this feature work consistently?" are you saying that it is set to "Disable and notify me" and that sometimes the notice does not go out? If it is set to "Disable and DON'T notify me" -for those lists- then you have your answer. If it -is- set to send the notices, is it possible that the notices go out but do not make it very far? i.e., can your Mailman and/or MTA logs shed any light on whether or not the notices actually are sent but perhaps are not able to be delivered? - Andrew -------- Mailman Administrator - http://www.tux.org/mailman/listinfo/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] restart question
qrunner is showing all kinds of lock files all of a sudden. The server had some "issues" today and had been rebooted a couple of times - then the lock files appeared. Do I need to restart something with Mailman? It looks like messages aren't coming thru. I'm using 2.0.13 Thanks in advance Valerie ------ Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] qrunner unexpected EOF
On Mon, 14 Oct 2002, Matt Filizzi wrote: > Just as an update, what the problem was is someone subscribed with > an ' in their email address. (ex. o'[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Does anyone know > if this is valid for email addresses? It is valid. > I couldn't find any mention in the RFC about it. See RFC 2822, section 3.4 and 3.4.1, and then section 3.2.4 for a definition of "dot-atom", etc. Or, see RFC 822, section 6.1, and then section 3.3 for a definition of "word", etc. - Andrew ---- Mailman Administrator - http://www.tux.org/mailman/listinfo/ ------ Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Silently discarding non-member posts
On 14 Oct 2002, Jon Carnes wrote: > As someone else mentioned, the Beta has this feature. > > Also, if you have sysadmin rights to the server running Mailman, > then you can setup one of the work-arounds. There are a couple of > work-arounds that allow you to discard the messages silently. > > Check out FAQ article 1.12 and article 4.15 > On Mon, 2002-10-14 at 05:12, Mark Goodge wrote: > > > > One thing that makes all this more awkward to deal with is the > > number of non-member (spam) posts that end up in the admin queues > > waiting to be discarded. As I only ever want to discard them, never > > forward them, approve them or reply to them, I would prefer them to > > be silently dropped by Mailman without them ever reaching the admin > > requests queue. Another approach is to stop spam where it should be stopped: before or at the MTA. It is only prudent for Mailman and other programs that deal with e-mail to be built with an awareness of the reality of spam, and it is helpful when such programs include anit-spam features ... but these should always be regarded as -helps- not solutions. Said another way: While not disregarding the ways that Mailman can help you fight spam, do not forget to view your mail system as a whole system, with many layers and many components. Ultimately, the best way to stop spam from ever reaching the admin requests queue is to stop spam from passing through your MTA. - Andrew -------- Mailman Administrator - http://www.tux.org/mailman/listinfo/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] problem with list member's vacation script
On 12 Oct 2002, Jon Carnes wrote: > Really the best solution is to teach folks the proper way to setup a > vacation message. Vacation messages should *only* respond to emails > where either the TO: or CC: of the message has the users email address > in it. > On Fri, 2002-10-11 at 10:18, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I manage a mailing list site with mailman, and I recently had the > > following problem: > > > > Lets say I have a list called [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 3 members: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] m3 has its vacation script > > turned on. m1 sends an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], so m2,m3 and m1 itself > > receive the email. m3's vacation script replies to m1 and to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], so m1 gets 2 copies of the reply (one directly and one > > through [EMAIL PROTECTED]), m2 gets a copy and m1 gets a copy of its own > > reply which in turn will be replied by its vacation script and so on. > > So my mail server ends up sending a lot of useless emails. How can I > > stop this situation? ... Also, vacation programs should keep track of addresses to which they have already sent an on-vacation message, and not send another such message within X number of days. Jon's suggestions will do more to eliminate your problem, while mine only reduces the problem. (But, importantly, my suggestion does eliminate the looping effect; the "and so on" part of your problem report.) Both Jon's suggestions and mine require you to be able to influence the behavior of your list members, and I agree with Jon that dropping people from the list is a perfectly valid way to attempt to influence people who cause endless message loops -- especially to a mailing list. At any rate, it is the appropriate thing to do with list members who do nothing when you politely point out to them why their vacation message set-up and/or program is causing problems. - Andrew ---- Mailman Administrator - http://www.tux.org/mailman/listinfo/ -------------- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Silently discarding non-member posts
On Tue, 15 Oct 2002, Mark Goodge wrote: > > > > One thing that makes all this more awkward to deal with is the > > > > number of non-member (spam) posts that end up in the admin > > > > queues waiting to be discarded. > > > >Another approach is to stop spam where it should be stopped: before > >or at the MTA. > > From Mailman's point of view, though, the origin of the email is > irrelevant. It doesn't matter whether it's "genuine" spam, a > mistaken attempt to contact the list administrator by using the list > address instead of the admin address, a member trying to post with > the wrong address, or whatever. All of these are non-member posts, > and all of them get treated exactly the same - that is, they are > discarded without replies. A pre-list spam filter will deal with > some of it, but not all of it. I must have misunderstood your original post. I read your original post to say, essentially, "I have a lot of administrative requests to deal with every day, and I could deal with them more efficiently if I did not have to bother with all the spam that is commingled in among them; I would like the spam to never reach the administrative queue." And, by "spam" I thought you meant genuine spam, not just "unwanted e-mail". (Spam, of course, is just one particular kind of unwanted e-mail. Some unwanted e-mail is just a part of life; unwanted e-mail from list members who could use an additional clue or two is a part of life as a list owner.) I personally favor taking the opportunity to provide the necessary clue, but I suppose having one's posts disappear into the void provides -some- sort of feedback. (But, in my experience, it almost always leads to follow-up messages, often including accusations that service is poor, or something is broken, or the sys-admins don't know what they are doing, etc.) I -do- see a place for automatically discarding anything that would otherwise require administrative action, but I personally would reserve this feature for one-way (newsletter) lists and the like. The other replies to your post should prove very helpful in implementing the automatic discarding that you seek. - Andrew -------- Mailman Administrator - http://www.tux.org/mailman/listinfo/ ---------- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Virtual Domains
Hi, It says in the feature list that it does virtual domains, but I couldn't find anything in the doc about doing it, any idea ? I've RTFM many time before posting. I have everything working fine for one domain, and the web interface would work with any virtual domain BUT the domain the list is belonging to is the one used to actually install the software : I have : [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do I have to make a separate installation for each domain OR where are the instructions ? Best Regards, ... Etienne R. Duguay Author of/ Auteur de "Se lancer en affaires dans Internet" ISBN 2-89521-001-2; ISBN 2-89472-062-9 SOLUTIONS PUZZLE SOLUTIONS INC., 630 Cathcart St. Suite 115 Montreal, Qc. H3B 1L9 CANADA Tel.: (514) 998-7658 - Fax: (514) 409-2030 E-MAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WEB: http://www.puzzlesol.com Puzzle Solutions : Providing WebObjects Hosting and Developement. - PGP Key fingerprints = 0D 35 74 3A 31 CD B3 5C D3 BA E5 49 F2 7C FD 9C PGP Public key at: http://www.puzzlesol.com/pgpkey.txt or finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] "The best way to predict the future is to invent it" Alan Kay "They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin .. ------ Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] We're sorry, we hit a bug!
Hello, I setup mailman 2.0.2 and had it running for a long while. Last night for no obvious reason, it started giving this error when trying to get into admin: "We're sorry, we hit a bug! Mailman experienced a very low level failure and could not even generate a useful traceback for you. Please report this to the Mailman administrator at this site." I checked the error log and it said nothing. So I tried upgrading to 2.0.4, didn't help. I tried completely removing the old version, still no go. It is getting to the admin login page, it's when you login that it gives an error (when the wrong password is entered, it's okay, but doesn't help much :). Does anyone have ideas where I can start troubleshooting this stuff? I restarted apache, sendmail, etc. And started from a fresh installation, did check_db and check_perm scripts, still didn't work. Thanks for any help. -Aaron ------ Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] We're sorry, we hit a bug!
I have a second email account that I use for outgoing, and it wants to wait for moderation (and I don't want to :). So sorry if this gets double posted. I checked all the processes and the only ones given to mailman is "/usr/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner", so I cleared out the processes and still get the bug message. I've tried it on 3 different computers each with different browsers, but I tried it with netscape 4.7 and it still gives the bug message. And I checked the logs again, and there's nothing in error, but here's some stuff from the other log files: tail logs/smtp Oct 17 16:54:39 2001 (4334) All recipients refused: (111, 'Connection refused') Oct 17 16:54:39 2001 (4334) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.184 seconds tail logs/post Oct 17 16:54:39 2001 (4334) post to test from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=1294, 1 failures tail logs/smtp-failure Oct 17 16:54:39 2001 (4334) -1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ignore)] Maybe that will help? -Aaron -- Original Message -- From: "Jon Carnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Jon Carnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 18:46:53 -0400 >Check the lock files in ~mailman/locks/ > >If there are any lock files check the processes and see if they are actually >running. The process is part of the name of the lock file. >Kill any processes that are frozen and then delete the lock files for them. > >Have you upgraded or changed your browser lately? This could cause problems >when trying to access the Admin pages. > >Jon Carnes >- Original Message - >From: "Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Aaron Nikula" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 5:44 PM >Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] We're sorry, we hit a bug! > > >> Have you just tried resetting the admin password? >> >> Ken >> >> On Wednesday 17 October 2001 11:33 pm, Aaron Nikula wrote: >> > Hello, I setup mailman 2.0.2 and had it running for a long while. Last >> > night for no obvious reason, it started giving this error when trying to >> > get into admin: "We're sorry, we hit a bug! Mailman experienced a very >low >> > level failure and could not even generate a useful traceback for you. >> > Please report this to the Mailman administrator at this site." I checked >> > the error log and it said nothing. So I tried upgrading to 2.0.4, didn't >> > help. I tried completely removing the old version, still no go. It is >> > getting to the admin login page, it's when you login that it gives an >error >> > (when the wrong password is entered, it's okay, but doesn't help much >:). >> > Does anyone have ideas where I can start troubleshooting this stuff? I >> > restarted apache, sendmail, etc. And started from a fresh installation. >> > Thanks for any help. >> > >> > -Aaron >> >> ------ >> Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > > >-- >Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] We're sorry, we hit a bug! (resolved)
Alright, I tracked down the problem and found out it had nothing to do with mailman. But in case someone has the same problem I'll post it (even though it's really really embarassing). Okay, I should I have been able to figure it out, it happened for no obvious reason, was just sitting there. It wasn't writing to the error log. Installing it fresh didn't help. That's right, I was out of disk space. I made some space and all is better. Sorry for all my trouble. -Aaron -- Original Message ------ From: "mailman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 20:23:10 -0700 >I have a second email account that I use for outgoing, and it wants to wait for >moderation (and I don't want to :). So sorry if this gets double posted. > >I checked all the processes and the only ones given to mailman is >"/usr/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner", so I cleared out the >processes and still get the bug message. I've tried it on 3 different >computers each with different browsers, but I tried it with netscape 4.7 and >it still gives the bug message. And I checked the logs again, and there's >nothing in error, but here's some stuff from the other log files: >tail logs/smtp >Oct 17 16:54:39 2001 (4334) All recipients refused: (111, 'Connection >refused') >Oct 17 16:54:39 2001 (4334) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.184 seconds >tail logs/post >Oct 17 16:54:39 2001 (4334) post to test from [EMAIL PROTECTED], >size=1294, 1 failures >tail logs/smtp-failure >Oct 17 16:54:39 2001 (4334) -1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ignore)] > >Maybe that will help? > >-Aaron > > > >-- Original Message ------ >From: "Jon Carnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "Jon Carnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 18:46:53 -0400 > >>Check the lock files in ~mailman/locks/ >> >>If there are any lock files check the processes and see if they are actually >>running. The process is part of the name of the lock file. >>Kill any processes that are frozen and then delete the lock files for them. >> >>Have you upgraded or changed your browser lately? This could cause problems >>when trying to access the Admin pages. >> >>Jon Carnes >>- Original Message - >>From: "Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: "Aaron Nikula" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 5:44 PM >>Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] We're sorry, we hit a bug! >> >> >>> Have you just tried resetting the admin password? >>> >>> Ken >>> >>> On Wednesday 17 October 2001 11:33 pm, Aaron Nikula wrote: >>> > Hello, I setup mailman 2.0.2 and had it running for a long while. Last >>> > night for no obvious reason, it started giving this error when trying to >>> > get into admin: "We're sorry, we hit a bug! Mailman experienced a very >>low >>> > level failure and could not even generate a useful traceback for you. >>> > Please report this to the Mailman administrator at this site." I checked >>> > the error log and it said nothing. So I tried upgrading to 2.0.4, didn't >>> > help. I tried completely removing the old version, still no go. It is >>> > getting to the admin login page, it's when you login that it gives an >>error >>> > (when the wrong password is entered, it's okay, but doesn't help much >>:). >>> > Does anyone have ideas where I can start troubleshooting this stuff? I >>> > restarted apache, sendmail, etc. And started from a fresh installation. >>> > Thanks for any help. >>> > >>> > -Aaron >>> >>> -- >>> Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users >> >> >>-- >>Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users >> > >-- >Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] FAQ and help
Hi, Is there a real FAQ somewhere (not the one on the official site), it's almost useless? Also, how one would get rid of the long list of url (List-Help etc.) ans addresses sent with all posts (you know : Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Gzipping archives To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: pHQMrcufY6hB9+tZhLpnaw== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.5_41 SunOS 5.9 sun4u sparc Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 (101270) Precedence: bulk List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=help> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=subscribe> List-Id: Mailman mailing list management users List-Unsubscribe: <http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/> Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 12:37:56 -0800 (PST) ? Regards, ------ Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Getting rid of the List Info in headers
Hi, How one would get rid of the long list of urls (List-Help etc.) ans addresses sent with all posts (you know : List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=help> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=subscribe> List-Id: Mailman mailing list management users List-Unsubscribe: <http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/> ? Regards, Etienne ------ Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] FAQ and help
Hi, Is there a real FAQ somewhere (not the one on the official site), it's almost useless? Also, how one would get rid of the long list of url (List-Help etc.) ans addresses sent with all posts (you know : Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Gzipping archives To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: pHQMrcufY6hB9+tZhLpnaw== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.5_41 SunOS 5.9 sun4u sparc Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 (101270) Precedence: bulk List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=help> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=subscribe> List-Id: Mailman mailing list management users List-Unsubscribe: <http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/> Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 12:37:56 -0800 (PST) ? Regards, ------ Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Unsubscribe not working - again
Hi, I've read the post on the list on how to have subscribers unsubscribe via e-mail using this formula : Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 13:36:34 -0400 X-UIDL: e(/"!8Pd"!R'F!!;,5"! The proper format for unsubscribe would be: unsubscribe mypassword [EMAIL PROTECTED] Include your password with the request. You should also be able to unsubscribe using the listinfo web page. Jon Carnes But nothing happens with the default list settings, the users are still on the list, nay ideas ? Regards, ------ Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] logentries /pr minute
Installed 3 lists, but not yet in use, I get following entries each minute in /var/log/cron: Dec 2 19:30:00 service CROND[1435]: (mailman) CMD (/usr/bin/python -S /var/mailman/cron/gate_news) Dec 2 19:31:00 service CROND[1437]: (mailman) CMD (/usr/bin/python -S /var/mailman/cron/qrunner) Dec 2 19:32:01 service CROND[1439]: (mailman) CMD (/usr/bin/python -S /var/mailman/cron/qrunner) Dec 2 19:33:00 service CROND[1441]: (mailman) CMD (/usr/bin/python -S /var/mailman/cron/qrunner) I think tis is very overkill of a log. I would like to know if it can be disabled? finn - Finn Schjøtt EDB Amtscentret for Undervisning, Nordjylland tlf. 9878 5825 -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Reply-to in umbrella lists
Hello, is it possible to change "dynamicly" the "Reply-to"-Field to the mail address of the umbrella list when the mail is sent to the umbrella list and not directly to the sublist ? That is what I mean: here is the normal case when I send the mail directly to the sublist: Subject: [sublist] testmail1 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] here is what I get when using the umbrella list: Subject: [sublist] [umbrellalist] testmail2 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] but this whould be much better: Subject: [sublist] [umbrellalist] testmail3 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you Martin ------ Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Permissions problem/symlinks on a RAQ4
Hi, I have installed a partially working version of Mailman 2.1.6 with Python 2.4.1 on a RAQ4 THe actual lists are working but the problem is with the web interface reporting a permission problem, and the httpd error log reporting "Symbolic link not allowed" THe background to it is that I've run usr2home (which does does what it says, and moves the files to create more space and symlinks the usr folder.) RAQs have limited space in /usr. I ran the ./configure with mailman mail and httpd gids as normal and it all installs, set up lists via command line etc, but try as I might the web interface refuses to display In httpd.conf Snipped ScriptAlias /mailman/ "/usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/" Options +ExecCGI +FollowSymLinks AddHandler cgi-wrapper .cgi AddHandler cgi-wrapper .pl Options +ExecCGI +FollowSymLinks (Tried with and without quotes btw) Nothing gives. I tried installing to /home/mailman and there I got the gui up but for the life of me couldn't get the mail to work! Also the gui displayed but then no values submitted entered the database and retained Users and groups are AFAICT set correctly, and check_perms is fine. (THough I don't pretned to understand the finer details of how permissions work) Please, can anyone give a pointer, (and in return I'll do a FAQ for installing on a RAQ!) Tim ---------- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam filters
Am Dienstag, 15. Mai 2012, 03:54:21 schrieb Mark J Bradakis: > So my mailing lists are getting hit by spam that goes to the lists > since it claims to be from some poor subscriber whose email got > hijacked. But to be more general, what are some of the current > best practices to filter out spam in a postfix mailman environment > on Linux? > Since we are using greylisting in addition to clamav (+ clamav-unofficial- sigs) the amount of spam decreased once more. I don't remember when the last customer complained about having unsolicited e-mails. Regards, Rainer ------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Domain repeated in URL
I have recently set up a new installation of Mailman 2.1.5. All is working OK but the URLs generated in the admin interface have the domain name repeated. e.g. In the main list webpage at http://mailman.mydomain.org/mailman/admin The link to the Mailman list appears as: http://mailman.mydomain.org/mailman/mailman.mydomain.org/admin/mailman I have tried altering Defaults.py but can't seem to get it working. Defaults.py includes: DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'mydomain.org' DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'mailman.mydomain.org' DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/mailman/' # DEFAULT_HOST_NAME has been replaced with DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST, however some # sites may have the former in their mm_cfg.py files. If so, we'll believe # that, otherwise we'll believe DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST. Same for DEFAULT_URL. DEFAULT_HOST_NAME = 'mydomain.org' DEFAULT_URL = 'mailman.mydomain.org' And my http.conf includes ServerName mailman.mydomain.org ServerAlias www.mailman.mydomain.org DocumentRoot /usr/local/mailman ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/ Alias /pipermail/ /usr/local/mailman/archives/public/ Options +FollowSymLinks This is exactly the same configuration as on our previous server which worked fine. Can someone point me in the right direction to sort this. Many thanks, Sandy Matheson ------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] postings_responses
Hi, Have some trouble with accessing a Mailman list via its web interface, mailman 2.1.9. I did a dump of the config.pck file and notice the that postings_responses option is very large and full of mailer-daemon and postmaster addresses. What does this option record? Is it safe to wipe it out? I did a google but I can't find any that explains what postings_responses is or the information that it records. Any insight is appreciated. Thanks, Sean -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] problem with locale settings and command line interface
Hi, I've mailing lists with some members using non ASCII characters in there names, like "Franz Müller ". Mailman 2.1.29 is installed. When I run "list_members -f mylist" I get question marks in the output. My locale settings: LANG=en_US.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=en_US:en LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8" LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8" LC_TIME="en_US.UTF-8" LC_COLLATE="en_US.UTF-8" LC_MONETARY="en_US.UTF-8" LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8" LC_PAPER="en_US.UTF-8" LC_NAME="en_US.UTF-8" LC_ADDRESS="en_US.UTF-8" LC_TELEPHONE="en_US.UTF-8" LC_MEASUREMENT="en_US.UTF-8" LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_US.UTF-8" LC_ALL= What can I do to get the names in UTF-8? Thanks Torsten -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
[Mailman-Users] On an imported lists, I can send a mail to the list, it is archived BUT not relayed to the members.
Hello,
Thanks for all the work on mailman3, wich I've installed to replace
mailman2.
On the new installation, I can create a new list, add members, send an
recieve messages and they are properly archived and I'm happy because
everything seems to be working as expected.
But…
With a list I created to importe the members and the archives, I have a
problem.
I followed this https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/migration.html to do
the import.
The result is that everything seems to be good except that, if I send a
message, it is not relayed to the members.
I tried by sending from my mail client and dirrecty from the web
interface, the result is the same.
The mail is received and archived and in the
/var/log/mailman3/web/mailman-web.log I see a lot of « loops » with this
kind of content :
…
[pid: 32617|app: -1|req: -1/57] ::1 () {38 vars in 782 bytes} [Tue Apr
26 15:25:30 2022] GET
/hyperkitty/api/mailman/urls?mlist=THE-LIST%40SUB.DOMAIN.EXT.be&msgid=e7eab1aa-b592-9b6b-5912-0a1004ba4e10%40OTHERDOMAIN.EXT&key=bo44goajulr
n0fa2bpt8zk2cxbaemlbq => generated 21 bytes in 0 msecs (HTTP/1.1 500) 2
headers in 83 bytes (0 switches on core 1)
…
To stop those « loops » and the logfile growing, I have to stop the
mailman3 service and restart it.
I have compared (based on the web interface) the setting of the « new
list » and the « imported list », I found some small differences and
even if I set the same settings, the result is the same.
Any idea about where to search would be welcome…
Regards,
tierce
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[Mailman-Users] Fwd: Question on gate_news script
Hello, I have started to use mailman to be an interface from and to several mailling lists and newsgroups at news.uslinuxtraining.com. The inbound (maillist-->newsgroups) works perfectly, however I do have a question before I enable the outbound (newsgroups-->maillists). I am not the origionating host for most of these lists. If I receive a message in (for example from mail.kde.org), translate this to news, what prevents this message from being sent back to the sending address. Example: list address is: [EMAIL PROTECTED] newsgroup is: kde.kde I have one subscriber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This one subscriber should get any posts made to the newsgroup, but NOT any post that comes in from the mail.kde.org server. (From the list address). Is this possible? Thanks, -Chris --- -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] CLI pending admin
Has anyone developed a CLI version of the pending msgs administration? Clicking through hundreds of spams is pain in the butt via the web. Thanks In Advance James -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] How to reconstruct MIME Attachments
Hi, subscribers of my mailing lists keep asking me how they can download attached files from messages that are in the archives or reconstruct Attachments from the daily batches they receive. Since most of them seemed rather unexperienced (just as I am), could somebody point out an easy way to decode the MIME-attachments from the Archive pages... Or can I change something in the Preferences to make their lives easier? Thanks for help. Regards, Ralf -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Discard message and forward message to third party failed
Background: --- Mailman v2.0 RedHat Linux 5.2 Python v1.5.2 Sendmail 8.9.3 (Yes, this machines needs some serious upgrading, but then it is only a 486/66! :) Problem: We had a post to a closed list that went into the pending queue. List Admin wanted to discard the message, but forward it to a third party, too. They marked the discard radio button, checked the "Additionally, forward..." check box, and entered the address to forward the message to. Cool, just want we want. They submitted the web page, but never received the message. :( Looking at the sendmail logs it shows that the list admin fat fingered the forward to address such that address had an invalid domain. (i.e. properaddress@.domain.name - notice the extra dot.) sendmail logs shows two lines: WAA32533: ... Invalid host name WAA32533: from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=4430, class=0, pri=0, nrcpts=0, proto=ESMTP, relay=IDENT:mailman@localhost [127.0.0.1] Now the problem. The forwarded message has disappeared! It is not in the list admins, site admin, mailman, or postmaster's mailbox. Nor, is it in the mail queue. The Mailman logs show the message being discarded (in logs/vette) and being handed of to smtp in logs/smtp, but nothing in logs/smtp-failure. Since I don't know what the forwarded message headers looked like, I can not tell if this is a sendmail or mailman issue. Does anybody have any ideas? Shouldn't the return-path of the message have been the list-admin address? Shouldn't sendmail as the last resort drop the message into postmaster's mailbox? Is this a bug in sendmail or Mailman? -- Derek ------ Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] how does mailman get its mails?
really silly question indeed :( If I have multiple mailing lists called, a-list b-list ... do I have to have mail-alias for all this mail-idents on my mail-server? also, the default setting for the mailbox of my sendmail is /var/mail/somebody, I mean the location of mailboxes. Does mailman know how to find this by itself, or do i have to configure it? thank you vey much! -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] DEFAULT_HOSTNAME? (fwd)
I've just spent most of an entire evening trying to understand where Mailman (i.e., the scripts that build Mailman - configure & make - and Mailman itself) gets its identity from. I'm attempting to install Mailman on the host charlie. charlie is the web host for pretorious.net and funkymonkeybutt.com. A reverse-DNS lookup of charlie's IP address will return pretorious.net. Mailman will only be accessible via www.funkymonkey.com (once I get it installed and configured correctly). I've tried modifying the 'www' and 'url' values of configure and configure.in I've tried passing --host and --target to ./configure I've tried modifying Mailman/mm_cfg.py ...and nothing seems to work in a predictable manner. _Sometimes_ the values that the cgi scripts return (via HTTP) contain the hostname 'charlie' and _sometimes_ they contain one of the values set using the methods listed above. e.g., If I use `hostname www.funkymonkeybutt.com` to temporarily set the hostname env value, `make` begins using pretorious.net instead of charlie. And Mailman pretty much ignores the Mailman/mm_cfg.py values. Everyone seems to talk about Mailman like it practically installs itself and then goes about laying golden eggs. What could possibly be causing me to be the only person on this list with basic installation? -- Eric P. Los Gatos, CA -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] DEFAULT_HOSTNAME? (fwd)
More head-scratching: I've basically removed any traces of the hostname/domain pretorious.net. Starting with fresh source code... I've set the system name using `hostname www` I've set the system domain name using `domainname funkymonkeybutt.com` I've set the options --build, --host, and --target when using ./configure. I've configured DEFAULT_HOSTNAME and DEFAULT_URL in Mailman/mm_cfg.py to correct the values (i.e., pretorious.net) in Mailman/Default.py, ...but this flaming hunk of python still pulls the wrong values out of its butt! (i.e., pretorious.net) Am I on Candid Camera or something?! Aaaagghh!!! -- Eric P. Los Gatos, CA ------ Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] DEFAULT_HOSTNAME? (fwd)
On Tue, 25 Sep 2001, Roger B.A. Klorese wrote: > At 12:05 AM 9/25/2001 -0700, you wrote: > >More head-scratching: I've basically removed any traces of the > >hostname/domain pretorious.net. > > > >...but this flaming hunk of python still pulls the wrong values out of its > >butt! (i.e., pretorious.net) Am I on Candid Camera or something?! > > What's the reverse DNS lookup of your primary IP address? Reverse-DNS returns pretorious.net for the server's _only_ IP address: 216.163.153.154. It gets wierder, though: Now cgi-bin/admin and cgi-bin/listinfo can't agree on the text that's displayed across the light-blue banner at the top of the page: admin displays "pretorious.net mailing lists" and listinfo tells visitors about the "www.funkymonkeybutt.com Mailing Lists" The flame burns higher and the hunk flies farther... -- Eric P. Los Gatos, CA ------ Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] DEFAULT_HOSTNAME? (fwd)
Here are the system values that I set before configuring: `hostname www` `hostname funkymonkeybutt.com` Here are the settings I used to configure Mailman: --build=funkymonkeybutt.com --host=www --target=/cgi-bin/mailman ...and the values I used in Mailman/mm-cfg.py (Pay special attention to the capitalization of the values): DEFAULT_HOSTNAME=Funkymonkeybutt.com DEFAULT_URL=fUnkymonkeybutt.com Here are the only places that I'm seeing those values reflected: cgi-bin/admin: The banner across the top... Funkymonkeybutt.com cgi-listinfo: The banner across the top... www.funkymonkeybutt.com What strikes me is: 1. The two different values IN THE SAME LOCATION on the page. 2. The fact that I never used the entire string "www.funkymonkeybutt.com" during configuration. 3. grep'ing the $prefix directory recursively reveal only two instances of the string "pretorious.net" - Both are in Mailman/Defaults.py - yet the same string still finds it's way into the mailman-owner address. It's not vaporware, it's crack-ware! Pass me the lighter, please. -- Eric P. Los Gatos, CA ------ Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] DEFAULT_HOSTNAME? (fwd)
On Tue, 25 Sep 2001, Greg Ward wrote: > On 25 September 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > > Here are the system values that I set before configuring: > > > > `hostname www` > > `hostname funkymonkeybutt.com` > > A Unix host has one hostname. One... A typo on my part: I used `domainname funkymonkeybutt.com` ^^ > > Here are the settings I used to configure Mailman: > > > > --build=funkymonkeybutt.com > > --host=www > > --target=/cgi-bin/mailman > > Umm, where did you get the idea that those are even remotely relevant? Given the overwhelmingly thorough documentation that comes with Mailman, I can't imagine why anyone would experiment with anything that remotely resembles a glimpse of hope but isn't referenced in the documentation. >From "./configure --help" (for *any* autoconf-generated configure script > -- this has nothing to do with Mailman): > > Host type: > --build=BUILD configure for building on BUILD [BUILD=HOST] > --host=HOST configure for HOST [guessed] > --target=TARGET configure for TARGET [TARGET=HOST] > > These options are for cross-compilation. If you're not building Mailman > on architecture FOO to run on architecture BAR, they are utterly > irrelevant. So do you have any answers? Or just bullets to shoot holes in my [futile] attempts to get Mailman to function logically? I was just using these to see if they had any affect at all on the way Mailman functions. They don't. Now I know why. Thanks. Bah humbug! -- Eric P. Los Gatos, CA ------ Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Public lists not advertised?
Hello: Lists set as "public" (i.e., archive_private = 0) aren't appearing in the listinfo page (though they do appear in the admin page). Is there a cure for this? -- Eric P. Los Gatos, CA ------ Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Public lists not advertised?
On Tue, 2 Oct 2001, J C Lawrence wrote: > On Tue, 2 Oct 2001 01:10:40 -0700 (PDT) > eric-mailman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hello: Lists set as "public" (i.e., archive_private = 0) aren't > > appearing in the listinfo page (though they do appear in the admin > > page). Is there a cure for this? > > Your VHosts don't agree. JC: Recursively grep'ing $prefix, the only reference to vhost appears in $prefix/bin/list_lists. (And that doesn't tell me nothin'!) Please elaborate. -- Eric P. Los Gatos, CA -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] HTML interface still quirky (fwd)
The reason that I'm so keenly interested in Mailman is its Web-interface. The promise of a customizable Web-interface is what differentitates Mailman from all of the other MLM's. When I discovered last month that the Web-interface wasn't quite so robust (the subscribe script and the the handle_opts script both munge the HTML output.) I was crushed. But then patch-level 1 came out and the world seemed to be a better place (at least from the terminal that I stay chained-to 10 hours a day...) The patch worked - or at least I thought it did. For the first few passes, the HTML looked fine and then - BAM! - it started acting-up again. Now subscribe and handle_opts have gone back to putting " in front of any custom HTML. I've completely removed the mailman (`/bin/rm -r /opt/mailman-2.0.6-1/*` and `/bin/rm /opt/src/mailman-2.0.6-1/*`), re-unpacked the .orig.tar.gz and re-applyied the patch, re-configured, and re-installed but the problem persists. What is happening? Eric P. ------ Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] HTML interface still quirky (fwd)
On Tue, 2 Oct 2001, Phil Stracchino wrote: > On Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 01:07:20PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > What is happening? > > s/Van Gogh/Edvard Munch/ Really? Drats!!! (LOL) -- Eric P. Los Gatos, CA ------ Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] HTML interface still quirky
On Tue, 2 Oct 2001, Greg Ward wrote: > On 02 October 2001, Eric Pretorious said: > > What is happening? > > I think you'll find that painting was by Edvard Munch. > > Unfortunately, I don't know how to get you to feeling like "Starry > Starry Night" over Mailman, which is probably much more agreeable. ;-) Greg: Thanks for the thoughts, though! Eric P. Los Gatos, CA ------ Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Commands
Hello: I've noticed that the pine MUA recognizes the set of commands that are encapsulated with this list's traffic (List-Help, List-Post, List-Unsubscribe, etc.). Is there a standard for these commands? If so, where can I find out more about them? -- Eric P. Los Gatos, CA ------ Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Commands
On Wed, 3 Oct 2001, J C Lawrence wrote: > On Wed, 3 Oct 2001 14:50:39 -0700 (PDT) > eric-mailman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hello: I've noticed that the pine MUA recognizes the set of > > commands that are encapsulated with this list's traffic > > (List-Help, List-Post, List-Unsubscribe, etc.). Is there a > > standard for these commands? If so, where can I find out more > > about them? > > RFC 2369. Do other MUA's (e.g., Outlook, Netscape, etc.) suport RFC 2369? -- Eric P. Los Gatos, CA -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Umbrella_List Option?
Jon: Thanks for the very-informative example. This list (and this software) could use more contributors like you! Eric P. Los Gatos, CA On Tue, 25 Sep 2001, Jon Carnes wrote: > An Umbrella List is a list of other lists. > For example, you have the following lists running in Mailman: > ThreeBlindMice: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ThreeBears: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ThreeMenNaTub: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > By making "Threesomes" into an Umbrella List, you can tell Mailman to add > "-owner" to any notices, confirmations and passwords that it sends out to > list members. > > Jon Carnes ------ Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] DEFAULT_HOSTNAME? (fwd)
On Tue, 25 Sep 2001, Greg Ward wrote:
> One possibility is to see what the system resolver thinks your hostname
> is. Try this:
>
> $ python
> Python 2.1 (#2, May 8 2001, 10:50:59)
> [GCC 2.95.2 2220 (Debian GNU/Linux)] on linux2
> Type "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
> >>> from socket import *
> >>> gethostname()
> 'cthulhu'
> >>> gethostbyname("cthulhu")
> '127.0.0.1'
> >>> gethostbyname_ex("cthulhu")
> ('cthulhu', ['localhost'], ['127.0.0.1'])
>
> On my system, this is all determined by /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts:
>
> $ cat /etc/hostname
> cthulhu
> $ head -1 /etc/hosts
> 127.0.0.1 cthulhu localhost
>
> One thing that *might* work is to add your FQDN to /etc/hosts, so the
> resolver in libc (which is what Python's socket.gethost*() functions
> use) knows about it.
Greg:
Thanks for the suggestions.
Before configuring Mailman this time, I used `hostname www` and
`domainname funkYmonkeybutt.com` to set these values. I also entered the
FQDN "www.fuNkymonkeybutt.com" in /etc/hosts. (Again, pay special
attention capitalization...)
Using the python functions that you used above, gethostname() returned
"www" and gethostbyname("www") returned the system's IP address.
Mailman, though, failed to take the bait and instead used the
pretorious.net values [from a reverse-DNS of pretorious.net I suppose] in
the blue banner across the top of the cgi-bin/admin page. From somewhere -
only God knows where - Mailman found the FQDN that I had intended and used
it in the blue banner across the top of the cgi-bin/listinfo page. (The
FQDN doesn't have any of the upper-case typing that I've been using in
order to identify where Mailman is getting its info so I am still
stumped!)
Thanks, again.
--
Eric P.
Los Gatos, CA
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Re: [Mailman-Users] DEFAULT_HOSTNAME?
On Tue, 25 Sep 2001, Paul Cox wrote: > Why don't you just edit mm_cfg.py to contain the hostname that you want? > It's easy... here's the relevant part of mine: > > ### > # Here's where we get the distributed defaults. > > from Defaults import * > > ## > # Put YOUR site-specific settings below this line. > > MAILMAN_URL = 'http://www.list.org/' > > # Site-specific settings > DEFAULT_HOST_NAME = 'coxcentral.com' > # DEFAULT_URL must end in a slash! > DEFAULT_URL = 'http://lists.coxcentral.com/mailman/' > PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL = '/archives' > > MAILMAN_OWNER = 'mailman-owner@%s' % DEFAULT_HOST_NAME Paul: Sheer brilliance! The MAILMAN_OWNER setting puts me over-the-top. I think I'll just it "good" and move on to customizing the general HTML. Thanks! -- Eric P. Los Gatos, CA -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Publicly-advertised lists not listed by listinfo
Hello: Does anyone have an idea what might be causing this schizophrenic behavior: * admin [correctly] lists the "publicly advertised mailing lists". * listinfo does not. -- Eric P. Los Gatos, CA ------ Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] DEFAULT_HOSTNAME? (cont'd)
Paul Cox's recommendations (DEFAULT_HOSTNAME, DEFAULT_URL, and DEFAULT_OWNER) patched things up pretty nicely. There still seems to be some discrepancy in the values that Mailman uses to identify itself (in the blue banner across the top of the page): * admin uses the DEFAULT_HOSTNAME value in Mailman/mm_cfg.py * listinfo seems to use the lower-case values of either: a. the --host & --build options (not likely) or b. the `hostname` & `domainname` system values. Is there a logical explanation for this? (Schizophrenia does not count!) Is there rememdy? Eric P. Los Gatos, CA ------ Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Help debugging Debian package for Mailman 2.1.3-1
Hi, I'm new to mailman and this list, so please forgive me if I've missed something obvious here or in the documentation (I have spent many hours looking, before resorting to this plea for help). I suspect that most of my problems lie with the Debian GNU/Linux packages (Testing) that I've installed, but been unable to configure properly without resorting to dangerously insecure hacks on file permissions and symbolic links. I notice that several of the obstacles I face have been reported and acknowledged as bugs on the Debian bug tracking system for quite some time. Unfortunately, they remain open with few suggested workarounds and some of those few looking pretty dubious. I was hoping that someone on this list might be able to refer me to either of: 1. A simple overview of the roles and relationships between of different components in a Mailman system ... so that I can set about the debugging process in a reasonably logical manner. 2. Other Debian users who have already worked their way through the bugs that I have encountered. I am now under some pressure to deliver a working Mailman system quickly, so the latter would be most useful. Here are some of the problems that I've encountered: 1. No permission for the web server to read any Mailman files. By default Apache runs as www-data on Debian systems, but most of the installed Mailman files are owned as root:list or list:list. I'm reluctant to do a recursive chown on any branch of my filesystem when there are so many chains of symlinks involved, when I'm not sure what roles various files play and when I've seen specific advice against adding the webserver user (www-data) to the list group. 2. Acknowledged bugs: #204869 errors while creating initial mailman list http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=204869 #214264 mailman: wrong permissions on archive directories http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=214264 #202464 mailman: symlink cgi-bin pointing to itself after installing http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=202464 #123297 wrong owner in pipermail directories http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=123297 ... the list goes on and on .. I wouldn't expect any individual to give me all the answers on these points, but I would appreciate any help or advice people could offer in trying to work through them. N.B. Despite the problems with this Debian package, I don't want to install from source tarballs (that's why I use Debian) and would prefer to fix it so that I can continue to benefit from the distro's basically sound package management and configuration system. Best wishes, Dave Fisher ------ Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help debugging Debian package for Mailman 2.1.3-1
On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 04:56:06PM -0500, Jon Carnes wrote: > Your simplest option may be to install it from source. As long as you > know the webservers GID and the MTA's GID you are good to go. Thanks for that, Jon! I did intimate I didn't want to screw up my rather orderly Debian system by installing from sources ;-) I'm long past the age when one might enjoy the game of 'hunt the library files'. I've managed without source since I converted my home server to Debian 2 years ago (after 4 years of RPM hell and over a decade wrestling with tarballs) ... and I'm relieved to discover that I don't have to concede now ;-) Moments after posting my premature plea for help, I pursuaded myself that I probably did know enough Python to make digging around in .py files a worthwhile exercise. I quickly noticed that almost all of the bugs I was suffering stemmed from two silly failures in the Debian package installation, i.e. 1. The Python scripts in /var/lib/mailman/Mailman (linked to /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman in Debian) did not have the executable bit set for any user. Reading Utils.py pointed me to that possibility. 2. The templates that were supposed to be installed in /var/lib/mailman/templates (linked to /etc/mailman in Debian) hadn't actually been installed at all. Copying the english language examples from /usr/share/doc/mailman/examples into /etc/mailman/en did the trick. I'd like to appologise for wasting mailing list members' bandwidth and hope that the previous two observations may at least help anyone else who encounters similar problems. Best wishes, Dave -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] help re: web_page_url and virtual hosts
Please forgive me if I have missed some obvious documentation, but I'm having some difficulty getting mailman to co-operate in the use of virtual hosts. I've read Nigel Metherigham's Exim-Mailman howto and added his suggested code to my exim.conf file. List mail is definitely being delivered to the correct domains. Unfortunately, all the message components that contain the web_page_url string variable have it evaluating to one domain name (usually the wrong one) even though components using host_name evaluate to each list's correct domain. Apache is serving all the list web pages on all the domains it hosts, instead of limiting each list to its appropriate domain. The most immediate thing I need to know, is where I can definitively set the default value, and the per list values, for web_page_url. I am using Debian, which has basic configs in /etc/mailman/mm_cfg.py and that imports Defaults (I am guessing from /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Defaults.py) I've changed the values of DEFAULT_URL and DEFAULT_URL_HOST in mm_cfg.py, and restarted mailman, but it still spews out the old default domain for web_page_url on all lists. I have read the comments in Defaults.py about virtual domains, but am no wiser about what variables I should change or how I should change them to get virtual domains to work properly. These problems seem to lie with mailman per se, and the variables it passes, rather than with Apache or Exim. Dave ------ Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Help with mass removal or bulk unsubscribe
Hi guys I need to unsubscribe everyone on one of my lists and then subscribe in mass again. I have the list for the new subscriptions, but I don't see where I perform the mass removal. Mailman just asks for a file, which I don't have. Anyone with some bright ideas? Thanks Cheers Hilton ------ Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] VERP problem
I admin nearly identical installations of mailman on two different servers. On both, I have the following set in mm_cfg.py: VERP_PASSWORD_REMINDERS = Yes VERP_PERSONALIZED_DELIVERIES = Yes VERP_DELIVERY_INTERVAL = 1 On one system, running qmail as the MTA, VERP works as expected. On the other, running courier as the MTA (although qmail is installed as well), I can't get mailman to use VERP at all. Is it possible that the misbehaving install won't do VERP because it doesn't recognize the SMTP daemon as being VERP capable (which it is)? Is there some other config variable I need to set or something I need to do in the build to make VERP work as expected? -- Lindsay Haisley | "Everything works| PGP public key FMP Computer Services | if you let it" | available at 512-259-1190 |(The Roadie) | <http://www.fmp.com/pubkeys> http://www.fmp.com| | ------ Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Personalized lists??
I'm using mailman 2.1.4. There is very little description of "personalized lists" in the mailman documentation. The FAQ says: Q. Can I put the user's address in the footer that Mailman adds to each message? A. Yes, in Mailman 2.1. The site admin needs to enable personalization by setting the following variables in the mm_cfg.py file: VERP_PASSWORD_REMINDERS = 1 VERP_PERSONALIZED_DELIVERIES = 1 VERP_DELIVERY_INTERVAL = 1 VERP_CONFIRMATIONS = 1 Once this is done, list admins can enable personalization for regular delivery members (digest deliveries can't be personalized currently). A personalized list can include the user's address in the footer. I've set the required variables in mm_cfg.py, however I find no reference to personalization in the per-list mailman web UI, nor can I find any reference to it in a flat-file extraction of the list config with config_list. I read that there should be an option to enable "Full personalization" somewhere, but I don't see it anywhere. Can anyone enlighten me on this? -- Lindsay Haisley | "Everything works| PGP public key FMP Computer Services | if you let it" | available at 512-259-1190 |(The Roadie) | <http://www.fmp.com/pubkeys> http://www.fmp.com| | -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] VERP problem
Problem solved. It was a matter of restarting qurunner. Thus spake Lindsay Haisley on Wed, Apr 14, 2004 at 02:21:32PM CDT > I should add that I also have VERP_CONFIRMATIONS = 1 and get very mixed > results. In no case is the confirmation request VERPed, but if I use the > administrative web UI to add a subscriber, the welcome msg to the subscribed > address is VERPed. If I subscribe using the unauthenticated public web UI > (and respond to a confirmation req.) the welcome message is _not_ VERPed. > Go figure. > > I still have no answer to the problem quoted below. > > Thus spake [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wed, Apr 14, 2004 at 11:19:15AM CDT > > I admin nearly identical installations of mailman on two different servers. > > On both, I have the following set in mm_cfg.py: > > > > VERP_PASSWORD_REMINDERS = Yes > > VERP_PERSONALIZED_DELIVERIES = Yes > > VERP_DELIVERY_INTERVAL = 1 > > > > On one system, running qmail as the MTA, VERP works as expected. On the > > other, running courier as the MTA (although qmail is installed as well), I > > can't get mailman to use VERP at all. Is it possible that the misbehaving > > install won't do VERP because it doesn't recognize the SMTP daemon as being > > VERP capable (which it is)? Is there some other config variable I need to > > set or something I need to do in the build to make VERP work as expected? -- Lindsay Haisley | "Everything works| PGP public key FMP Computer Services | if you let it" | available at 512-259-1190 |(The Roadie) | <http://www.fmp.com/pubkeys> http://www.fmp.com| | ---------- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
RE: [Mailman-Users] Is mailman suitable ?
You're right Tim, there's an option under "General posting filters" where you can allow 'the whole world' to post unrestricted. Thanks Cheers Hilton -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Faircloth At 04:40 PM 4/18/2004, you wrote: >Quoting Thomas Carrié <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > group C policy : anyone on the internet can write to group C >- yes but they would have to subscribe not neccessarily. there's an option under Subscription rules/sender filters about what to do with non-member posts... "allow", "hold", "reject", "discard" /tim -- ---------- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
RE: [Mailman-Users] Adding users via email - No confirmation wanted.
-Original Message- From: Darryl Harvey Is there any way for a moderator (or list admin) to add users via an email that doesn't result in a confirmation email being sent to the actual user before they are a valid subscriber? Is there any option for NO approval (As long as the moderator (or admin)) is initiating this request ? We have a closed list (internal company list) that needs to be populated, we can subscribe them, but we cannot use the web interface), we need to use the email interface, but we do NOT want/need any confirmation sent to each user. - I see no answer via the list, so here goes. If you're using 2.1.4, then do this... First step should be to get your administrator to fiddle with mm_cfg.py and set 'ALLOW_OPEN_SUBSCRIBE = Yes' and then 'DEFAULT_SUBSCRIBE_POLICY = 0'. Then set the 'subscribe_policy' to 'none'. Then send a message to the list with these details To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Body: subscribe requiredpassword [EMAIL PROTECTED] You'll get a whole bunch of confirmation mails, so just set a rule to delete them. I'm not sure how to turn this 'feature' off. If it's a once off, then go for it, but change back afterwards. Cheers Hilton -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
RE: [Mailman-Users] Adding users via email - No confirmation wanted.
-Original Message- From: Darryl Harvey It's not a once off, it's an ongoing thing. They confirmation emails will cause havoc to our 500+ staff that will receive them, we don't want them to get ANY email about the list. -- No problem if it's an ongoing thing, as long as no-one outside your network has access. In other words, you don't want any tom, dick or harry subscribing without your knowledge. The way I suggested, the users will not receive the confirmation messages, they wont even know that they're subscribed. Unfortunately I don't know about the confirmation emails to YOU. Cheers Hilton ------ Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
RE: [Mailman-Users] Question
You need to at least do some prior reading, either via the archives or via the web interface. http://www.list.org/docs.html Try it, break it and then ask more specific questions. But in summary, if using Linux, you need apache, a c compiler, python, sendmail (or some other MTA) and of course mailman. Hope this helps. Cheers Hilton -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Synthpunk Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 8:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Mailman-Users] Question How would I go about creating my own mailing list? -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Upgrade to 2.1.5 fails on 'Updating Usenet watermarks'
Updating from 2.1.4 release to 2.1.5 release, during make install, it dies on: Updating Usenet watermarks - nothing to update here Nothing to do. updating old qfiles Traceback (most recent call last): File "bin/update", line 780, in ? errors = main() File "bin/update", line 709, in main update_qfiles() File "bin/update", line 441, in update_qfiles msg, data = dequeue(filebase) File "bin/update", line 497, in dequeue msg = cPickle.load(msgfp) EOFError make: *** [update] Error 1 Tried running 'make install' again, but bin/upgrade seems to die at this point without fail. Any suggestions? ------ Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] mailman and courier
I'm using mailman as a list server with courier as my MTA. The mailman user is in /etc/passwd as belonging to primary group 'mailman'. Mailman is compiled with --with-mail-gid set to the group of the mail user. This is set to 'courier' which works for most purposes, both posting and handling bounces from list posts. The one exception to this is the monthly password reminder postings which go out with an address of "mailman-bounces+@bailey.fmp.com" as the envelope sender, and if they bounce they come back to this address. Courier delivers them to the mailman account where I have a .courier-default file to pass them to a python script for processing. Unlike list posts and list post bounces, however, the delivering process runs as user mailman, group mailman, and mailman rejects them because the group id of the delivering process doesn't agree with the value of "courier" compiled into the wrapper. According to the mailman INSTALL document, one can configure mailman at build time to accept any one of a set of groups specified in the --with-mail-gid, but putting these in a quoted, space-spearted list as arguments to the configure script doesn't work, and reading the code, I don't see where such a multiple-name lookup is supported since the wrapper uses a single strcmp call for the comparison. Does this feature work? If so, what's the exact syntax for the target for --with-mail-gid required to make this happen? -- Lindsay Haisley | "Everything works| PGP public key FMP Computer Services | if you let it" | available at 512-259-1190 |(The Roadie) | <http://www.fmp.com/pubkeys> http://www.fmp.com| | ------ Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
