[Mailman-Users] GID Errors...

[Jason]

Hey  I was wondering If I installed mailman with spm (slackware package
manager) because for some reason I can't install it from source.
I installed the rpm version and its giving me GID errors... I was
wondering if there is a way to change the GID of mailman or change the
GID of the group or something to make mailman work?

Is that possible...
change the GID of a rpm installed on a slackware system.

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[Mailman-Users] Abnormal problem with mailman.

[Jason]

Yeh I installed mailman via rpm on my slackware system (really really
long explanation... because it wouldn't compile on the box... something
about ginstall) anyhow... Now I'm getting errors with the
GID I was wondering how I would go abouts changing the GID of either
Mailman or Of the cgi user?

If anyone would know how to do that.  Because I can't recompile it with
--cgi-gid because it won't compile... thats why I installed it via
rpm (slackware package manager actually)...

Any ideas on how to help me out would be appreciated ...

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[Mailman-Users] Possible Bug!!!

[Jason]

Yes I was wondering if this would be a bug.

I can make a mailing list via the ./newlist
name
email
address
password

and then
press to send the confirmation email.

Ok that works fine.

But here is where the trouble starts. If I run the Mailman newlist all
on one command.
Example : ./newlist mailinglistname [EMAIL PROTECTED] secretpassword
then it ask's me to press to send the confirmation email...

I still get the confirmation email with the password in it.
I click on the link which brings me to the authentication page.
Putting in the password that I inserted does nothing but bring up the
authentication failed page. It looks as like the lists are created
without a password when I run mailman on one single command line.

Is this normal? is this a bug? anyone else experience something like
that? if so how can I fix it...
I really have to get it to run on a single command line so that I can
put a script in the cron to add mailing lists.

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[Mailman-Users] Sendmail problems!

[Jason]

I was wondering if anyone else was having problems with sendmail setting
up mailman
I have it all compiled and the cgi works fine ... but I can't get
sendmail to recieve the confirmation email
of mailman.  I believe that this is due to the fact that I don't have
the right relay-domain settings (as I can't find documentation anywhere
on what this file should look like)

Any little tidbit of help would be apprecitated.

thanks
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[Mailman-Users] wrapper's error

[Jason]

I get an error messge when I reply to the confirmation email... could
someone that know's about this help me out.
Here is the email that I get as a reply to my confirmation.

This message was created automatically by mail delivery software (Exim).

A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Child process of list_request_transport transport returned 2 from
command:
/home/mailman/mail/wrapper
 end error

What does the returned 2 from command mean? what do I have to fix to get
this working?

Thanks
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Any way users can unsubscribe without a password?

[Jason]

On Fri, 30 Mar 2001, Bob Puff@NLE wrote:

> See http://nleaudio.com/bnotes/mailman.htm

I'm trying out Bob's unsub script on my Redhat system and haven't been
able to get it working.  Any idea why it would be returning this error?

   - Transcript of session follows -
sh: unsub not available for sendmail programs
554 "|/home/mailman/bin/unsub testlist intemperance.net"... Service
unavailable


As far as I can tell I've set everything up correctly.  As you can see
I've put the unsub file in /home/mailman/bin, but the testlist-remove
alias does reflect that path correctly (and I've tried /home/mailman as
well). I've made sure that the permissions on unsub are correct and that
my site password is in the unsub script.  Suggestions?  Thanks for any
ideas.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Any way users can unsubscribe without a password?

[Jason]

On 3 Apr 2001, Neil Cooler wrote:

> ln -s /home/mailman/bin/unsub /etc/mail/smrsh/unsub

Ding!  This was the piece I was missing.  Clearly I'm not a sendmail
expert. :)  Thanks, everyone.

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[Mailman-Users] List Copy

[Jason]

I need to move 1 list from one server to another server. Which files do I 
need to copy, I already have mailman setup and running on the new server.



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[Mailman-Users] Question

[Jason]

I'm fairly new at using mailman I transferred some lists over to it I ran on 
another system.

Sometimes when I invite people rather then the return address being 
list-request it is list-bounces  so when they goto confirm there subscription 
it goes to the bouces account and nothing happens.

Is there a way to fix this.   It doesn't happen all the time.

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[Mailman-Users] Backup

[Jason]

Last question I promise.  If I was to just backup the entire mailman directory 
including the subdirectories and ever need to restore the lists on another 
system will I be able to just copy all the mailman files to the new system and 
have all the lists be restored.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] how could i send a message to all users

[Jason]

I personally every once and a while send a who request to mailman and add
the emails to a unadvertised/moderated All-Users list.
It seems to work pretty good for me when I want to email all the people on 
all my lists. And it also saves them getting multiple copies of the email if 
they are on more then 1 list. 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] unsubscribe w/o password question

[Jason]

They can use [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The reason for the password is so that someone can't just unsubscribe other 
people.

If they unsubscribe via email it is from there email so it knows them 
already.

- Original Message - 
From: "Andrew Woolf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <>
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 12:39 PM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] unsubscribe w/o password question


Hi there.  I'm operating a Mailman list-the software is provided with our
Hostway account.  They are using version 2.06.  Our subscribers are
complaining about having to remember or retrieve their password before
unsubscribing.  Is there any way to allow them to unsubscribe without a
password?  We love mailman, and hope to continue using it, but this
unsubscribe issue is a big problem for us at the moment.

Thanks for your help.

Andrew


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscribing to a mailing list

[Jason]

you could do a simple form on the site.
Have the From as a textbox field and the To as a hidden field.
The From Field will show there name and be sent to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
It would act as if they sent a email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
themselfs.

I did that with my mail server before I started using mailman
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From: "Simon Kelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <>
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 4:37 AM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Subscribing to a mailing list

Hi,
I have been talking with the Purple Paw support team about trying to create
a box on my Purple Paw hosted website to allow subscribers to enter their
details into this and join a mailing list set up.
They say that since the mailing list scripts come from you i should talk
directly to you.
This URL:
http://mail.bmthbarracudas.com/mailman/listinfo/test_bmthbarracudas.comallows
users to subscribe to a test mailing list we have set up, however i
was wondering if you could tell me how to create a an area on ym website
that will allow users to subscribe to the list without having to go to this
URL.
Many thanks
Simon Kelly
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Backing up maiing list e-mails?

[Jason]

Send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In the body of the email put
who listpassword
Mailman will email you back a list of all the subscribed emails.
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From: "L.S.P. Prabhu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <>
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 5:49 AM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Backing up maiing list e-mails?


Is there a way to download/export the list of e-mails from an individual 
mailing list? I am using the standard web admin interface provided by my 
web hosting company, and cannot see such an option.
Thank you,
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Re: [Mailman-Users] a question about extracting mail list

[Jason]

There are a few ways. If you are moving to another mailman system you can 
just copy the directory for the list to the new system.

You could email[EMAIL PROTECTED]
and in the body put
who  listpassword
and it will email you back a list of all the emails in the list IF the 
people don't have themself setup as hidden.

And then import that list into your new listserver.
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From: "Femenia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 9:50 PM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] a question about extracting mail list


Hi,
I'm interested in migrating the list to another system. How can I extract 
the 5200 email addresses? the system allows me to see only 30 each time. 
Can I see all of them in  a continuos list?
many thanks

Nora
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[Mailman-Users] Footers

[Jason]

How does one edit/create footers per list?

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[Mailman-Users] One More Question

[Jason]

Is there a way to set which IP addresses can send to a list?

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[Mailman-Users] Monthly Reminders

[Jason]

If a user is signed upto multiple lists and the end of the month rolls around 
does the person get a email from each list or one email with the info for 
multiple lists in it.

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[Mailman-Users] clearing nomail bounce flags for all lists

[jason]

Hi,

I'm wondering if someone has a withlist script that we can use for clearing
the nomail bounce flags from all members of all lists? We had some trouble
with our system's IP being flagged for spam by AT&T, and a lot of users
ended up bouncing. I found a post with an old script, but that was from
around 2010. This is on Mailman 2.

Thanks!

 

 

 

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[Mailman-Users] mod_ruid2 and jail apache affects on mailman

[jason]

Hi,

On our cPanel server, I'm getting the following message in the security
advisor:

Apache vhosts are not segmented or chroot()ed.

Enable "mod_ruid2" in the "EasyApache 4" area, enable "Jail Apache" in the
"Tweak Settings" area, and change users to jailshell in the "Manage Shell
Access" area. Consider a more robust solution by using "CageFS on
CloudLinux". Note that this may break the ability to access mailman via
Apache.

 

I'm concerned about the mention of breaking Mailman via apache. Can anyone
explain this? I would like to enable these security options, but we host
many lists, so don't want to break anything.

 

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[Mailman-Users] Messages not being sent

[Jason Buscema]

I am running 2.1-8 on a newly installed Red Hat 9 machine. I setup my list 
and send a test email to it and I can see that the wrapper kicks in, but 
no messages are delivered to any users and no messages are pending admin 
tasks. The cron tasks appear to be setup correctly by default.

My setup:
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[Mailman-Users] Messages not being sent

[Jason Buscema]

I am running 2.1-8 on a newly installed Red Hat 9 machine. I setup my list
and sent a test email to it and I can see that the wrapper kicks in, but
no messages are delivered to any users and no messages are pending admin
tasks. The cron tasks appear to be setup correctly by default. Any ideas?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] porky.devel.redhat.com

[Jason Buscema]

Using the default install on RedHat 9, you do not have the Base URL option,
only the host name option. I have the same problem currently and have not
figured out a way around it. My older version on my RH 7.3 box has the
option. I've looked everyone for this setting but it evades me.

I am running mailman mailman-2.1-8 on a newly installed RedHat 9 box.

> This is because you haven't properly configured your mailing list. You still
> have some work to do. You need...
> 
> Final Touches
> 
> Now, it's time to access the mailing list administration web interface and
> polish some of the information. Visit the General Options link, and make sure
> that the information shown is right, specialy:
> 
>   * Public name of the list
>   * List admin's email addresses (make sure that there's at least 2)
>   * Phrase identifying the list
>   * Prefix for subject line
>   * Host name this list prefers: enter "yourdomain.com"
>   * Base URL for Mailman interface. For example:
> http://lists.yourdomain.com/mailman/. Remember to delete any trailing spaces
> from cut-and-paste!!


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Re: [Mailman-Users] porky.devel.redhat.com

[Jason Buscema]

Actually I have had the same issue with my mailman setup on a RedHat 9 
box. There is no option under the General Options for the Base URL 
settings. I am running mailman-2.1-8 which comes w/ RedHat 9. Perhaps 
there is something wrong with this rpm.

On Mon, 14 Jul 2003, Josep L. Guallar-Esteve wrote:

> On Sunday 13 July 2003 09:37 pm, Jerry Rasmussen wrote:
> > I am getting this on a list that I have set up.  I am new to mailman.
> > The list should read http://mailman.scriptthis.net/mailman... but
> > instead I get http://porky.devel.redhat.com/mailman... I am sure that I
> > have missed something but cannot find it anywhere.  I am running RedHat
> > 9 and installed mailman from RPM. Any help would be appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Jerry Rasmussen
> 
> 
> This is because you haven't properly configured your mailing list. You still 
> have some work to do. You need...
> 
> Final Touches
> 
> Now, it's time to access the mailing list administration web interface and 
> polish some of the information. Visit the General Options link, and make sure 
> that the information shown is right, specialy:
> 
> * Public name of the list
> * List admin's email addresses (make sure that there's at least 2)
> * Phrase identifying the list
> * Prefix for subject line
> * Host name this list prefers: enter "yourdomain.com"
> * Base URL for Mailman interface. For example: 
> http://lists.yourdomain.com/mailman/. Remember to delete any trailing spaces 
> from cut-and-paste!!
> 
> Also, visit the Privacy Options link, and make sure that the options are OK 
> with the pourpose of the list. One advice: set "What steps are required for 
> subscription?" to "require aproval". Send a test message, check that it has 
> got to the list archive and then logout. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[Mailman-Users] Footer message in html email

[Jason Buscema]

Is there any way to have a footer message in an HTML email message? From
what I have read, the answer is no, but figured there might be a workaround.
I need to be able to send a personalized link in the footer message, which
Mailman does wonderfully, but the email is HTML. Any ideas?


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer message in html email

[Jason Buscema]

Ha... I'm in the same boat really... I discouraged the client from sending
HTML emails, but they insisted. The email recipients actually prefer the
HTML vs plain text now, to my surprise. We use Mailman to send the daily
emails, but we do not use Mailman for list management (at least for this
list). The management is handled through the web site itself (skyy.com)
using MySql. A user creates an account, then from there they can subscribe
to a list. We want the daily messages to have a link with a unique ID in it
for a quick unsubscribe. I had the method all worked out, then we went w/
HTML emails :(

> don't send HTML :-)
> 
> Seriously, though, I asked the same thing, and Barry basically vetoed it.
> 
> if you find a way (even with a local patch), I'm all eyes.
> 
> I have a $CLIENT that would love it.
> 
> LER
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer message in html email

[Jason Buscema]

I don't fully agree although I'm not a big fan of html emails myself. We use
it on the SKYY Vodka website for users that want to receive a daily drink
recipe and/or want to receive a quarterly newsletter type thing. Its an
entertainment website. We've always given the users the option for either
plain or html and recently more people have chosen HTML, even for the daily
message. The daily message consists of a unique recipe with a picture of the
drink and Skyy flavor, etc.

Regardless, I still need to figure out a way to have a personalized footer
message in an HTML message. Changing the message from HTML to plain text
isn't an option either.

On 7/15/03 3:31 PM, "Customer & Technical Support" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>HTML in email sucks.  If I want to see a damn web page I'll go to
> the URL.  Most people use HTML to dress up spam or otherwise hide the fact
> that they had nothing worthwhile to say anyway.  I filter ALL HTML out of
> any mail I get.  Its extremely unprofessional to use.
> 
> 
> 
> At 07:17 PM 7/15/2003 -0300, Cody Harris wrote:
> 
>> HTML allows the e-mails to be well layed out. Things to be bolded to ppl
>> don't have to hunt for them. Wait a minute, i'm not sending to the mailman
>> list! I'm sending to you. Oops ^_^. Anyways. I'' just add it to CC.
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Jason Buscema" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Cody Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 7:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer message in html email
>> 
>> 
>>> For me, I'm anti HTML emails for our clients because of the extra traffic
>>> that it incurs.
>>> 
>>> On 7/15/03 3:12 PM, "Cody Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Why is that people are anti HTML? How about if sites went anti html?
>>>> 
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: "Jason Buscema" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 7:08 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer message in html email
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Ha... I'm in the same boat really... I discouraged the client from
>> sending
>>>>> HTML emails, but they insisted. The email recipients actually prefer
>> the
>>>>> HTML vs plain text now, to my surprise. We use Mailman to send the
>> daily
>>>>> emails, but we do not use Mailman for list management (at least for
>> this
>>>>> list). The management is handled through the web site itself (skyy.com)
>>>>> using MySql. A user creates an account, then from there they can
>> subscribe
>>>>> to a list. We want the daily messages to have a link with a unique ID
>> in
>>>> it
>>>>> for a quick unsubscribe. I had the method all worked out, then we went
>> w/
>>>>> HTML emails :(
>>>>> 
>>>>>> don't send HTML :-)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Seriously, though, I asked the same thing, and Barry basically vetoed
>>>> it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> if you find a way (even with a local patch), I'm all eyes.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have a $CLIENT that would love it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> LER
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer message in html email

[Jason Buscema]

This puts me back to my original post... the reason I want to have a
personalized footer message in my HTML emails is so that a user can click
the link to unsubscribe. Again, we don't use Mailman management for this
list. If the user is getting tired of HTML emails, they can click a link and
change to plain text, or they click another link and be removed from the
list completely. Pretty simple really... we're just giving the user an
option on how they want to clutter their inbox.

On 7/15/03 4:14 PM, "Customer & Technical Support" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> And you cant say that more and more people are NOT getting tired of having
> the mail they receive all cluttered up with "look pretty" garbage and less
> real content.
> 
> 
> 
> t 08:11 PM 7/15/2003 -0300, Cody Harris wrote:
> 
>> Think what you like, but you can't say taht more and more people want HTML
>> e-mails.
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Richard Barrett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Cody Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Cc: "Mailman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 8:05 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer message in html email
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tuesday, July 15, 2003, at 11:35 PM, Cody Harris wrote:
>>> 
>>>> If it was suddenly unprofessional to not use HTML and use XML, would
>>>> you
>>>> follow?
>>> 
>>> The use of XML and HTML are not equivalent.
>>> 
>>> Using XML to semantically markup data for transmission via email is
>>> justified where it is used to remove ambiguity in the data; I contrast
>>> this with the XML markup generated with similar objectives to HTML
>>> markup by some popular PC applications in particular.
>>> 
>>> IMNSHO filling people's mail boxes, burning their bandwidth and spam
>>> and junk  mail filter performance with mail tarted up using HTML is not
>>> justified.
>>> 
>>> HMTL email is for the most part, like much HTML markup on web pages, a
>>> triumph of form over content.
>>> 
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: "Customer & Technical Support" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: "Cody Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Mailman"
>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Jason Buscema" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 7:31 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer message in html email
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>  HTML in email sucks.  If I want to see a damn web page I'll
>>>>> go to
>>>>> the URL.  Most people use HTML to dress up spam or otherwise hide the
>>>>> fact
>>>>> that they had nothing worthwhile to say anyway.  I filter ALL HTML
>>>>> out of
>>>>> any mail I get.  Its extremely unprofessional to use.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> At 07:17 PM 7/15/2003 -0300, Cody Harris wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> HTML allows the e-mails to be well layed out. Things to be bolded to
>>>>>> ppl
>>>>>> don't have to hunt for them. Wait a minute, i'm not sending to the
>>>> mailman
>>>>>> list! I'm sending to you. Oops ^_^. Anyways. I'' just add it to CC.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>>> From: "Jason Buscema" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>> To: "Cody Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 7:14 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer message in html email
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> For me, I'm anti HTML emails for our clients because of the extra
>>>> traffic
>>>>>>> that it incurs.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 7/15/03 3:12 PM, "Cody Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Why is that people are anti HTML? How about if sites went anti
>>>>>>>> html?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>>>>> From: "Jason Buscema" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 7:08 

Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer message in html email

[Jason Buscema]

Sorry for the confusion. I use Mailman for all my lists that I run. For this
specific list I use Mailman for everything except user management. This part
is handled through a MySql DB and syncs w/ Mailman each night. If I didn't
have to do HTML I wouldn't, but in this case I need to do it.

That said... Does the same hold true for a header as it does for a footer?
Thanks for the info... I don't have too much experience w/ HTML emails.

> I'm confused.  If you're not using mailman for the list, why are
> you asking us for help on this topic?
> 
> The problem with HTML is that there is no standard way of knowing
> where the bottom of the message is (as perceived by the user), and
> therefore you can't really attach a footer at the bottom.  You could
> encapsulate the entire HTML message and use a MIME multipart, but how
> that would be displayed would vary greatly depending on the MUA.
> 
> 
> So, the basic answer is -- it can't be done.  Not with HTML
> e-mail.  This is one of the many reasons why people who've been doing
> e-mail for a while consider it to be one of the worst evils that has
> been visited upon the Internet -- usually just below spam.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer message in html email

[Jason Buscema]

In my specific instance, no list member posts to the list. Its a one-way
list only. I use mime-mail to generate the HTML message each day then send
to the Mailman list. So this *could* be a solution.

In the past with HTML messages we've stuck text at the bottom but it has
been part of the HTML message itself. In this case, I need to have the
personalization of Mailman. There are other ways I can do it, such as have
mime-mail and PHP generate a unique email for each user, but I really want
to avoid going that for many reasons.

On 7/16/03 5:55 AM, "Jon Carnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> That would certainly work, but the problem is that ordinary folks using
> the mailing list would probably simply ignore that advice when they
> post.
> 
> On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 08:37, Ed Wilts wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 02:18:27PM +0200, Brad Knowles wrote:
>>> The problem is how to embed something like this within the HTML,
>>> so that it would work for everyone.  And there is no easy answer for
>>> that question.
>> 
>> How about doing something simply obvious, like forcing the sending
>> poster to use something like MAILMAN_FOOTER in the HTML.  Then mailman
>> could simply scan the html code for the keyword and do an in-place
>> substitution.  Grossly simple, so I'm probably overlooking something...
> 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer message in html email

[Jason Buscema]

But how can I use the Mailman footer so its personalized? I want to do
something like this in the Mailman footer:

If you want to unsubscribe from this list then go to
http://mydomain.com/unsubscribe.php?id=%(user_name)s

This is in its simplest form, but you get the idea. I can make a footer in
my html message, but it will be HTML and Mailman can't add its
personalization to it.

On 7/16/03 4:49 PM, "JC Dill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> At 06:45 AM 7/16/2003, Vivek Khera wrote:
>>>>>>> "JB" == Jason Buscema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> 
>> JB> Regardless, I still need to figure out a way to have a personalized
>> footer
>> JB> message in an HTML message. Changing the message from HTML to plain text
>> JB> isn't an option either.
>> 
>> In one of my businesses, we do attempt to attach a signature to the
>> end of an HTML message.  Most of the time it works just fine witho our
>> guess as to where to insert it.  When it fails, it fails miserably.  I
>> believe it has to do with how well the HTML is formed.  Here's how we
>> guess where to insert it:
>> 
>> 1) look for  tag.  If present, insert footer HTML code just
>>before it.
>> 2) if not present, tack it on to the end of the message.
>> 
>> Most of the time when this fails is when someone forgets to close a
>> table properly.  Instead of making a nice footer, it usually ends up
>> starting a new column or something funky like that.
> 
> .footer
> 
> 
> Footer text will now display properly unless the body code was REALLY
> screwed up.
> 
> jc
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[Mailman-Users] Question on members list.

[Jason Hand]

Is there a way to retrieve a list of the e-mail addresses stored in a Mailman list?

Thanks,
Jason

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[Mailman-Users] New to mailman

[Jason Williams]

Hello everyone.
Well, im brand new to mailman, but im very eager to get started.
I wanted to ask a few questions to see if mailman is what im looking for.
Basically, I need a mailing list manager to manage about 6 or so lists. 
Nothing fancy. It is going to be used exclusively for our intranet, to 
email our employees and certain departments.

With that in mind, I noticed that mailman requires apache to run, as it 
allows users to subscribe and unsubscribe from lists.
This is really a little overkill for our needs as I explained earlier.

With that in mind, is mailman still something that would suit our needs? 
Granted, my personal perference is to keep our mail server as streamlined 
as possible, with as little services running as possible.

Anyone care to share their thoughts and suggestions?

I appreciate it.

Cheers,

Jason

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Re: [Mailman-Users] need help

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> I Unsubscribed this malinglist..  but somehow, I still get all the
> mails..
>
> And why is that ?

That would seem to be a question for [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
You might also verify that you unsubscribed the person
in the signature line:

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[Mailman-Users] problems setting up mailman

[Jason Williams]

Hello everyone...

Well, im in the process of setting up Mailman on my server...
The server is running RH 8.0.
I went ahead and downloaded the RPM from Red Hat and it installed Apache as 
well...

I followed the directions in the httpd-mailman.conf file and copied it over 
to my httpd.conf

I fired up apache and went to http://localhost/mailman

And was prompted with the page...

Where I am now having problems is how to setup my lists...

I have been reading through the README file that comes with the tarball, 
and tried going to: http://localhost/mailman/create but I get a page not 
found...

So im missing something and not sure what it is...

Can anyone help me out?

I appreciate it.

Jason

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Re: [Mailman-Users] problems setting up mailman

[Jason Williams]

At 11:52 AM 8/29/2003 -0700, you wrote:
Hello everyone...

Well, im in the process of setting up Mailman on my server...
The server is running RH 8.0.
I went ahead and downloaded the RPM from Red Hat and it installed Apache 
as well...

I followed the directions in the httpd-mailman.conf file and copied it 
over to my httpd.conf

I fired up apache and went to http://localhost/mailman

And was prompted with the page...

Where I am now having problems is how to setup my lists...

I have been reading through the README file that comes with the tarball, 
and tried going to: http://localhost/mailman/create but I get a page not 
found...

So im missing something and not sure what it is...

Can anyone help me out?

I appreciate it.

Jason

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Re: [Mailman-Users] problems setting up mailman

[Jason Williams]

Nevermind...think I figuredit out...I just used the command line scripts...

Just a few quick questions:

Im running postfix on this server...what do I need to do, if anything, to 
configure mailman and postfix to work together correctly?

I have not been able to find anything as far as documentation so far...

Can someone point me in the right direction?

Thank you.

Jason

At 12:09 PM 8/29/2003 -0700, you wrote:
At 11:52 AM 8/29/2003 -0700, you wrote:
Hello everyone...

Well, im in the process of setting up Mailman on my server...
The server is running RH 8.0.
I went ahead and downloaded the RPM from Red Hat and it installed Apache 
as well...

I followed the directions in the httpd-mailman.conf file and copied it 
over to my httpd.conf

I fired up apache and went to http://localhost/mailman

And was prompted with the page...

Where I am now having problems is how to setup my lists...

I have been reading through the README file that comes with the tarball, 
and tried going to: http://localhost/mailman/create but I get a page not 
found...

So im missing something and not sure what it is...

Can anyone help me out?

I appreciate it.

Jason

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[Mailman-Users] Mailman and Postfix install

[Jason Williams]

Hello everyone...

Well, I took the advice of some people on this list and im ditching the RH 
rpm that I used and im going to compile mailman from source...better anyway..

I just have two questions I need clarified:

--with-mail-gid=
From reading this, I should set the group the group I specified for 
postfix correct? In that case, the group I created was postfix...so just 
postfix?

--with-cgi-gid=
Simple enough...using apache, apache is the winner..
Last part: Do I need to recompile postfix at all to get mailman and postfix 
to work together? Or is there another option to get these two compiled?

Thanks for your help...

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[Mailman-Users] Need some clarification on my mailman setup

[Jason Williams]

Hello everyone.

Im new to mailman, but so far, I seem to be having good luck with my setup.
Im running postfix-2.0.15 on my mail server. (Followed the directions on 
setting up mailman with postfix)
Also running Mailman-2.1.2.
Procmail-3.22.
Running IMAP on this server as well (Courier-IMAP)

I've setup a few lists that I am in the process of testing.
Here is a snip from my maillog when I send the email to the list:
Oct  1 12:56:07 corpmail postfix/smtpd[15297]: connect from 
jwilliams[192.168.1.90]
Oct  1 12:56:07 corpmail postfix/smtpd[15297]: 14B48AB543: 
client=jwilliams[192.168.1.90]
Oct  1 12:56:07 corpmail postfix/cleanup[15300]: 14B48AB543: 
message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Oct  1 12:56:07 corpmail postfix/qmgr[14919]: 14B48AB543: 
from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=642, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Oct  1 12:56:07 corpmail postfix/local[15301]: 14B48AB543: 
to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=local, delay=0, status=sent 
(maildir)
Oct  1 12:56:07 corpmail postfix/smtpd[15297]: disconnect from 
jwilliams[192.168.1.90]
Oct  1 12:56:09 corpmail postfix/smtpd[15297]: connect from corpmail[127.0.0.1]
Oct  1 12:56:09 corpmail postfix/smtpd[15297]: 49375AB543: 
client=corpmail[127.0.0.1]
Oct  1 12:56:09 corpmail postfix/cleanup[15300]: 49375AB543: 
message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Oct  1 12:56:09 corpmail postfix/qmgr[14919]: 49375AB543: 
from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=1833, nrcpt=2 (queue 
active)
Oct  1 12:56:09 corpmail postfix/smtpd[15297]: disconnect from 
corpmail[127.0.0.1]
Oct  1 12:56:09 corpmail postfix/local[15301]: 49375AB543: 
to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=local, delay=0, status=sent 
("|/usr/bin/procmail -m /etc/procmailrc")
Oct  1 12:56:09 corpmail postfix/local[15301]: 49375AB543: 
to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=local, delay=0, status=sent 
("|/usr/bin/procmail -m /etc/procmailrc")

Just a few questions im not clear about.

First:
Oct  1 12:56:07 corpmail postfix/local[15301]: 14B48AB543: 
to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=local, delay=0, status=sent 
(maildir)

On this entry, is it delivering mail to a user called loan_processors? I 
dont have a user called loan_processors...is this correct? Did I miss 
something?

Second:
Oct  1 12:56:09 corpmail postfix/qmgr[14919]: 49375AB543: 
from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=1833, nrcpt=2 (queue 
active)

I dont understand this line: What is the purpose of the 
from=

It seems to me that it worked correctly, but im just trying to make sure my 
list is working correctly, i understand it and that I dont have anything 
misconfigured.

Anyone care to help me out and clarify a few things?
I would be very greatful for any insight and recommendations.
Cheers

Jason

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[Mailman-Users] Help: Question on settings

[Jason Williams]

Hello everyone.

I'm having a problem with some settings on Mailman; Specifically, when 
people send to the list, the message has to be approved first.

I've looked under the settings for the list, but I cant seem to figure out 
how to shut that off. I just want people to be able to send the my list(s) 
without having to have approval. Where can I fix that?

Secondly, im running postfix and I saw this in my maillog, and not sure 
what i means:

Oct  7 11:04:40 corpmail postfix/qmgr[16470]: 76698AB549: 
from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=1634, nrcpt=1 (queue active)

mailman-bounces  can someone tell me what that is?

I appreciate everyones help.

Jason

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[Mailman-Users] domain name switch ignored by mailman

[Jason Signalness]

Hello,

I recently installed mailman onto a Red Hat 7.1 box running sendmail. 
Mailman works great, except that I have reconfigured it to use the 
cyclend.com domain name as the default.  It was originally set to 
something else.

It seems to ignore this setting and, when emailing outgoing messages 
(like password reminders) it uses the old domain name.  I want to 
abolish this old domain name, but am unsure how to go about doing so.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

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[Mailman-Users] Editing confirm message

[Jason Buscema]

I know how to turn on/off the welcome message,  but I want to be able to
edit the default confirm message. For the users of my list, the confirm
message is a little complicated. I assume editing the confirm message will
be a global change, and that is fine. I want to simplify the confirm
message.

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[Mailman-Users] Editing feedback message

[Jason Buscema]

I need to edit the email that Mailman sends back to a user that has
unsuccessfully subscribed to a list. I looked in the $MAILMAN/templates/
directory and was unable to locate the file. The email response I am talking
about is the following:

This is an automated response.

There were problems with the email commands you sent to Mailman via
the administrative address <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.

To obtain instructions on valid Mailman email commands, send email to
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the word "help" in the subject
line or in the body of the message.

If you want to reach the human being that manages this mailing list,
please send your message to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.

The following is a detailed description of the problems.


* subscribe 12345 nodigest
> You are already subscribed!


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[Mailman-Users] Feedback mesasge

[Jason Buscema]

Let's try this again...

I need to edit the email that Mailman sends back to a user that has
unsuccessfully subscribed to a list. I looked in the $MAILMAN/templates/
directory and was unable to locate the file. The email response I am talking
about is the following:

This is an automated response.

There were problems with the email commands you sent to Mailman via
the administrative address <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.

To obtain instructions on valid Mailman email commands, send email to
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the word "help" in the subject
line or in the body of the message.

If you want to reach the human being that manages this mailing list,
please send your message to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.

The following is a detailed description of the problems.


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[Mailman-Users] DEFAULT_URL, DEFAULT_HOSTNAME

[Jason Signalness]

I have a problem.  Some of the email being sent out by mailman (password 
reminders, etc.) are coming from an incorrect DEFAULT_URL.

For example, mail has a "from" field of dsl1234.bti.com, which is 
outdated.  It should be set to cyclend.org. The URL they are coming from 
is the same as the one specified in Defaults.py.

The problem is that I have overridden these variables in the mm_cfg.py. 
  For some reason, the values in mm_cfg.py don't seem to be taking affect.

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[Mailman-Users] How to turn off monthly Subscription reminders?

[Jason Gurtz]

I've turned off the monthly password reminder, but it still sends out
the subscription reminder.  I read through the faq and the
administration guide but still couldn't find a clear way to disable it.

any hints appreciated,

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[Mailman-Users] Make Mailman send confirmations from fully quallified hostname?

[Jason Bodnar]

My regular mail is handled by mail.broadq.com. I've got an mx record for
lists.broadq.com pointing to the host running Mailman. In mm_cfg.py I have:

DEFAULT_HOST_NAME = 'lists.broadq.com'
DEFAULT_URL   = 'http://www.broadq.com/cgi-bin/mailman/' 
MAILMAN_OWNER = 'mailman-owner@%s' % DEFAULT_HOST_NAME

I created a list called 'test'. When I subscribe from the web page for the
'test' list I get a confirmation email but the reply-to header is
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]' rather than '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'. How can
I make Mailman set the reply-to to the latter?

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[Mailman-Users] How to put an image on the Listinfo Public page?

[Jason Twamley]

Dear All,

I have a mailman listserver and would like to know how I can put an
image on this page
http://planck.thphys.may.ie/mailman/listinfo/qip
I have tried ...you can see the boob here..what does one do?
Cheers
Jason

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[Mailman-Users] nntp setup question

[Jason Nichols]

I can't seem to find any information about setting up the news gateway other
then to make sure that your computer has access to the nntp
server/computer...

My question is this.  What would I have to modify in order to connect to a
nntp server that requires ssl, and a user name/password?



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[Mailman-Users] no mail, no errors

[Jason Wehmhoener]

Hello,

I just installed mailman and it seems to work, the web interface works
great, /var/logs/maillog looks great, /home/mailman/logs/error is empty, I
can see posts in /home/mailman/logs/posts. But no mail is recieved by the
list subscribers!

OS: Yellow Dog Linux 1.2
Sendmail:   sendmail-8.9.3-17
Mailman:Mailman 2.0.3
Python: Python 1.5.2

Thanks,
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RE: [Mailman-Users] no mail, no errors

[Jason Wehmhoener]

> Type mailq and see if messages are queued up for delivery. If they
> are, the problem may be that you have not inserted the crontab entries
> for the user mailman.

Here's the mailq output

Mail Queue (1 request)
--Q-ID-- --Size-- -Q-Time- Sender/Recipient
KAA13743  (no control file)

Here's the output from crontab -l

# At 5PM every day, mail reminders to admins as to pending requests
0 17 * * * /usr/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/checkdbs
#
# Noon, mail digests for lists that do periodic as well as threshhold
delivery.
0 12 * * * /usr/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/senddigests
#
# 5 AM on the first of each month, mail out password reminders.
0 5 1 * * /usr/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/mailpasswds
#
# Every 5 mins, try to gate news to mail.  You can comment this one out
# if you don't want to allow gating, or don't have any going on right now,
# or want to exclusively use a callback strategy instead of polling.
0,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55 * * * * /usr/bin/python -S
/home/mailman/cron/gate_news
#
# At 3:27am every night, regenerate the gzip'd archive file.  Only
# turn this on if the internal archiver is used and
# GZIP_ARCHIVE_TXT_FILES is false in mm_cfg.py
27 3 * * * /usr/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/nightly_gzip
#
# Retry failed deliveries once per minute.
* * * * * /usr/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner

> > I just installed mailman and it seems to work, the web interface works
> > great, /var/logs/maillog looks great, /home/mailman/logs/error
> is empty, I
> > can see posts in /home/mailman/logs/posts. But no mail is
> recieved by the
> > list subscribers!
> >
> > OS: Yellow Dog Linux 1.2
> > Sendmail:   sendmail-8.9.3-17
> > Mailman:Mailman 2.0.3
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[Mailman-Users] posting filters query

[Jason Wright]

howdy...

i'm running internal lists for my company on mailman 2.0.4 with python 2.0
under solaris 7.  say that our domain name is example.com.

i'm trying to set things up so that *@example.com can post to the lists but
all other addresses are held for approval as explained here:

http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2001-February/009828.html

teo de hesselle responded, suggesting using a regex:

http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2001-February/009835.html

neither post says exactly which configuration option that regex should go in,
but it seems to me that 'posters' is the correct place.  if i use the
following

moderated = 0
member_posting_only = 1
posters = ['.*@example\\.com']

and post from [EMAIL PROTECTED], an address which is not subscribed to the
list, the post is held for approval.

if i change 'posters' to

posters = ['.*@example\\.com', '[EMAIL PROTECTED]']

then posts from [EMAIL PROTECTED] go through, so it seems that 'posters' 
doesn't accept regular expressions.

am i tweaking the wrong settings?

tia,

PeeWee

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[Mailman-Users] Mass Unsubscribe?? - Convert from MajorDomo

[Jason Maderios]

Gang,


I am in the midst of evaluating mailman for our mailing list.  We
currently use Majordomo by way of a hosting company and we are
considering managing the list internally.  All I can say about the
install is WOW!  Great docs, and everything worked as advertised.  I had
missed one line in the docs about setting the GID at configure time if
my web server used something other than nobody as it's user.  Even the
error I saw when I first fired up my browser told me where I had erred..
Thanks to anyone out there who worked on the Docs...

Any way my real question is this.  I created a text file with a bunch of
dups and thousands of emails to see how easy it was to import records (I
have about 200,000 adr's I am going to have to import).  It all worked
great but how do I MASS unsubscribe all those bogus adrs???  Also where
does mailman keep the email adr's at?  Is it a flat file?  Can I edit it
directly?

Any Help would be appreciated...

Jason Maderios

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[Mailman-Users] Attributes List

[Jason Maderios]

Gang,


Are all the available attributes listed anywhere?  I would like to add
the username and password to the footer of every email sent out.  I know
about the security implications but this is for a short term
"Announcement" list.  

TIA,

Jason Maderios


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[Mailman-Users] mirroring www.list.org in australia

[jason andrade]

Hi,

I'm interested in providing a mirror of www.list.org (and specifically the
mailman distribution) here at our opensource archive in Australia.

I'm the same person who's mirroring python locally, so i suspect i might
be talking to (some of) the same people who look after the python site ? :-)

Can you please let me know if this is possible.. 

regards,

-jason


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[Mailman-Users] Adjusting From: Field

[Jason Maderios]

All,


Anyone know where I can adjust the From: field on a mailing list.  Right
now it says [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I need to point it to another
mail machine outside our DMZ that will then send it where it needs to
go.


TIA,


Jason Maderios

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RE: [Mailman-Users] Adjusting From: Field

[Jason Maderios]

Again--

Anyone know how to adjust the from field for the mailing list.  I need
to change it from saying [EMAIL PROTECTED] To
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


TIA,

Jason Maderios



On Monday, June 4, 2001, at 07:04 PM, Jason Maderios wrote:

> Anyone know where I can adjust the From: field on a mailing list.
Right
> now it says [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I need to point it to another
> mail machine outside our DMZ that will then send it where it needs to
> go.
>

Why do it that way? Instead, use an MX record to send it ot that 
machine, and have that machine forward it in.

Normally this would work.  But for buisness practaces I want/need to
change that field to anything I wan't it to be.

if the list server is inside the firewall, how is the web interface 
getting out? another proxy?

Web interface can only be accessed by VPN and LAN.





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[Mailman-Users] User & password export

[Jason Morehouse]

Are there any scripts that allow me to dump a list of users and
passwords?  I've checked out the list_member script, but because I've
rarely worked with python, there isn't much I could make from in.

Thanks in advance,
-Jason

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Re: [Mailman-Users] restricting html posts and attachments

[Jason Fesler]

> I am changing hosting services and am converting a couple of email lists
> from majordomo to mailman. I currently use the regexps listed below in the
> taboo headers/body section of the majordomo config file. Can someone tell me
> the correct way to translate these for use in the mailman Privacy - Bounce
> matching headers section?

Instead of restricting such posts, I neuter them.

http://scifi.squawk.com/demime.html

Snarfs the *TEXT* of the message, tosses the rest of the crap.



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[Mailman-Users] Changing the email host

[Jason Signalness]

Hello all,

I just installed Mailman and all seems well, except for one thing.  Mailman 
seems to think my mail server is at one host while it is actually at another.

The URLs it sends out in its emails is correct, but the host name for email 
is incorrect.  I have changed it in the mm_cfg.py file, but it still 
doesn't listen.

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[Mailman-Users] What did I do wrong?

[Jason Clark]

I know I've got a simple problem, I'm just not getting where I need to, and 
am tired of complaints from users.  I've had mailman up and running for a 
month, but I needed it working before I had all the little questions like 
this worked out.  I don't recall exactly what values I typed in during the 
install, but when messages come out from the list, the mailto: tags are 
correct, but the web page links are not correct.  See the sample below.

Where did I go wrong in the install?
Can I fix it via the administration web page & where?  (I tried changing 
the options on the bottom of the general screen and it doesn't save the change)
hostname: mail.usmale.org
base url: /mailman/
Do I need to fix it by rerunning the setup process?  (this won't destroy 
the lists I have already setup.  Right?)

>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>List-Post: 
>List-Subscribe: ,
>
>List-Unsubscribe: ,
>
>List-Archive: 
>___
>Test2 mailing list
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>http://www.usmale.org/mailman/listinfo/test2

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[Mailman-Users] Email address tag

[Jason Newkid]

I've spent the past 7 hours upgrading a server from freebsd 2.2 to 4.4 and 
mailman 1.0 with python 1.5.1 to the current version. FUN FUN FUN

In the past few months I've noticed more and more people signing up for 
lists using services that offer mail redirects. The problem is when they 
bounce I can't find the original email address it was sent to.
What im looking for is the mailman tag to represent email address the email 
was sent to.

So hopefully in the footer i can put
This email was sent to % mm_user_email . (or like MM-User-Email)

and maybe in the header put
X-MailMan-Sent-To: % mm_user_email (or like MM-User-Email)

But what is the syntax or tag to print the users' email address in an email?

I was not able to find it after going through the 45 megs of archives.


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[Mailman-Users] personalize

[Jason Taylor]

my server where i get my resellar package is running 2.1.3  and to my understanding of 
the  help files, i should be able to have personalized "to:" fields so hotmail doens't 
"junk" them!  but i can't find any options on how to do this!  is there any help i can 
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[Mailman-Users] Customising web pages

[Jason Marty]

Hi 
I have just installed Panther which has Mailman included.
Does anyone know where I might find the html pages so I can customise them
myself?

Many thanks

Jason
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[Mailman-Users] nested

[Jason Williams]

I have 4 lists, one of them only has members specified as the other lists.
If I post to that nested list I assumed that the people on any of those
lists would get the message. Instead I find that the message is held.
I have tried configuring he lists so that only list members can post to
them, and then made the nested list a list member.  This has not worked.

What do I have to do to be able to post to the nested list, and for that
message to auto get out to the other list who make up the membership of the
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[Mailman-Users] virtualhost and "list creator" password?

[Jason Parsons]

I'm using the add_virtualhost directive to create multiple mailman 
virtual hosts.  I've been unable to find the answer to one issue, 
though:

Is it possible to give assign an owner/password for each virtual host, 
allowing that owner to create/delete lists on that virtual host without 
having rights to any other virtual host?  The only thing I find is 
mmsitepass, which seems to apply globally.

Any pointers appreciated.

Thank you.
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[Mailman-Users] qmail VERP

[Jason Parsons]

I have installed the Qmail Handler from  
<https://sourceforge.net/tracker/? 
func=detail&atid=300103&aid=645513&group_id=103>.  I installed the  
handler by copying it to $prefix/Mailman/Handlers/Qmail.py.  I have the  
following in my mm_cfg.py:

DELIVERY_MODULE = 'Qmail'
QMAIL_CMD = '/var/qmail-lists/bin/qmail-inject'
DO_QMAIL_VERP = 1
QMAIL_LOG_SUCCESS = 1
QMAIL_LOG_FAILURE = 1
QMAIL_LOG_EVERY_MESSAGE = 1
.. however, outgoing messages are not VERPed.  Any ideas what I might  
be missing?

I am very familiar with qmail, not as familiar with mailman, and I have  
read the archives, for what it's worth.  ;)

Thank you.
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[Mailman-Users] Several questions

[Price, Jason]

I am in the process of installing mailman at my company, and have a few
questions that I've been unable to figure out.  Hopefully, you all can help
me out here...

1.  How can I display a "friendly name" in the "from" field?  Currently, I
have it displaying the mailing list address, but I'd much prefer it to
display text of my choosing, and eliminate the "on behalf of" information.
Is this possible?

2.  I'd like to display the same "friendly name" in the "to" field of
mailing list messages.

3.  What the easiest way to control the bounced messages destination?  Is it
possible to provide an explicit destination for bounced messages, or does
this have to be done via the aliases file?

Thanks.

Jason

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[Mailman-Users] Nested lists

[Jason Williams]

I have a list whose members are made up entirely of other lists.  I can't
seem to make it so that I can post to this nested list, without then having
to give permission for those messages to then go to the subscribed lists.  I
have tried making those lists one where anyone can mail to them, tried
making the nested list the only on e who can mail to those lists, but to no
avail.  Can anyone help?

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RE: [Mailman-Users] Digests: Can you set the From ?

[Price, Jason]

I've been searching for a way to alter the "From:" and "To:" display
addresses as well, but have not had any luck.  If this is not possible, I'd
definitely view that as a semi-important oversight, and would love to see
that functionality in a future release.

Jason

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I'm testing out DIGEST subscriptions.
Is it possible to change the email formats, specifically:

a) they appear to come from?[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   I'd like to include a descriptive text for the FROM field.
   eg:
   '"Talk Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>'

b) the subject line?
   eg:  talk Digest, Vol 12, Issue 1

  I had a look at the code in senddigests but it's not there.
  I'd like to customise these

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[Mailman-Users] Email footer

[Jason Marty]

Title: Email footer



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[Mailman-Users] Backup

[Jason Marty]

Title: Backup



If I want to back up the list data on Mac OS X Panther Server does anyone know which files I need to copy?



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[Mailman-Users] Export

[Jason Marty]

Title: Export



Does anyone know how to export the current lists?



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[Mailman-Users] New list password

[Jason Marty]

Title: New list password



I am running Mailman on a Mac with OS X Panther.
When you create a list via the GUI interface it does not ask you to create an admin password.
If I try to create the list via the Mailman interface I do not know the password and it will no accept my other list passwords.
Is there any place I can change, override or set this password??

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[Mailman-Users] Backup

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Title: Backup



If I want to back up the list data on Mac OS X Panther Server does anyone know which files I need to copy?



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[Mailman-Users] Export

[Jason Marty]

Title: Export



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[Mailman-Users] Customising pages

[Jason Marty]

Title: Customising pages



I’ve customised the html pages in the list options an have searched all the other html pages in the Mailman directory (OS X Panther) but cannot find the options login page.
Does anyone know where this may be?



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[Mailman-Users] Base URL for web interface with 2.1.4

[Jason Shouler]

We've just moved up to 2.1.4 from 2.0.8

One of the nice features of the older version was the ability to pretty 
much change the Base URL 'on the fly' via the management general options.

This facility seems to be completely missing on the newer version  - in 
fact I can't find any way of doing at all!

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[Mailman-Users] Mailman won't send confirm emails when subscribing

[Jason Marty]

Hi
Mailman won't send confirm emails when subscribing.
It used to work and it unsubscribes as it should but it anyone trying to
subscribe is described in the log file as pending and is never activated
because the confirm email is not posted.

Any ideas??

Pulling my hair out!!

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[Mailman-Users] Mailman won't send confirm emails when subscribing OS X

[Jason Marty]

In OS X ­ sorry to post twice but I left this off.

Mailman won't send confirm emails when subscribing.
It used to work and it unsubscribes as it should but it anyone trying to
subscribe is described in the log file as pending and is never activated
because the confirm email is not posted.

Any ideas??

Pulling my hair out!!

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[Mailman-Users] VERPing with Sendmail

[Jason Shouler]

Has anyone had any success activating VERP with sendmail?

As far as I can see it could be done but generating the 'aliases' file 
would be daunting to say the least!

Or have I missed a far simpler approach?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] VERPing with Sendmail

[Jason Shouler]

Thanks Kai,

Works a treat just as you suggested!

The VERP option used with passwd reminders sure makes it a lot easier to 
resolve problem bounces.

Jason.

Kai Schaetzl wrote:

Jason Shouler wrote on Sat, 01 May 2004 11:30:13 +0100:

 

Or have I missed a far simpler approach?

   

I think so, yes. you don't need to setup anything additionally. Everything 
after and including the plus is just ignored by sendmail unless you put up 
special aliases for catching them.

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[Mailman-Users] Python: High CPU Load

[Jason Shouler]

We run an announcement only list of about 25K members on a IBM Netfinity 
5500 (1 GB RAM) running SuSE 8.0.

Mailman 2.1.4 performs very well except for the web interface which is 
slow at the best of times and can even time-out during an active mail shot.

This is a snapshot of "ps aux" showing a cpu load of over 96% generated 
from doing a member search.

wwwrun7469 96.1  2.0 22680 20968 ?   R12:14   0:05 
/usr/bin/python -S /usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver admin

No errors in the error log.

Would anyone like to comment on how "normal" they'd consider this?

Regards,

Jason.

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[Mailman-Users] High CPU Load

[Jason Shouler]

Can anyone offer any suggestions on resolving a high cpu load with Python.
We're using Mailman 2.1.4, Python 2.3.3, Sendmail & Amavis to support an 
announcement only list of about 40k members on an IBM Netfinity server 
(1 Gb RAM).

During list activity CPU load will often exceed 90% with the load being 
spread fairly evenly between active qrunners (e.g. command, outgoing & 
virgin runners).

This I can live with but what I can't live with is the 98% load 
generated from the web admin interface (driver admin script) which 
effectively makes the interface unusable.   In fact mailmanctl must be 
shut down in order to do any remote administration at all!

I've scoured the archives and also tried most options within 'mm_cfg.py' 
all without success.

It's probably worth pointing out that the same issues existed with 
previous versions of Python and Mailman.

Suggestions anyone? 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] High CPU Load

[Jason Shouler]

Thanks for the suggestions
  I'd suggest upgrading to versions 2.1.5, and trying the other 
suggestions recommended by the FAQ.  If one or the other or both of 
those don't solve the problem, please let us know.

Sorry, this was a typo -  we're already up to 2.1.5
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Re: [Mailman-Users] High CPU Load

[Jason Shouler]

Richard Barrett wrote:
What do you mean by list activity? Handling a single outgoing post or 
what.
Activity should be pretty minimal - one outgoing post a week and that's 
about it.   What appears to be creating the heaviest load is the bounce 
runner which with something over 3000 messages in it's queue looks a 
likely culprit (or rather I guess the messages are).  

I'm not sure how the bounce queue fits in with the bounce mechanism?   
Are these actually queued messages waiting for delivery or are they 
already dead!I've looked at a few and they would appear to belong to 
unsubscribed members??

Is outgoing mail via the MTA on the Mailman server? What sort of 
values are are using for SMTP_MAX_RCPTS?
All services are running on the one server.  Sendmail is fairly well 
optimized and takes submissions from Mailman via the MSA port which is 
configured to avoid DNS.SMTP_MAX_RCPTS = 10 and VERP is enabled for 
everything other than normal postings and of course the SMTPPORT is changed.

Basically Mailman works very well aside from the heavy load issue.
As is often the case in these situations, after almost giving up, I've 
now found the web interface is usable again.

All the queue runners are clear apart from the bounce runner which is 
going up very gradually at the moment.  When I see it going down I'll be 
a lot happier.

Regards,
Jason.
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[Mailman-Users] selected members to announcements only? (newbie)

[Jason Davies]

I just walked into one of those etiquette discussion joining this
morning, didn't I?:-)

Please indulge a really basic question. I have searched for
'announcements only' in the FAQ Wizard and looked at the Mailman
interface on my list. I am running Mailman version 2.0.13. I am not an
expert...I was given this list to run because I am a webmaster of the
relevant site. The software is configured by the college.

Some members of the list wish to receive announcements only rather than
the rather messy  (but on-topic) discussions that have grown up. Is it
possible within the same list to do this (eg to only have them receive
my posts?) Or should I set up an announcement only list entirely
separately? Thanks for any help (I suspect the latter but you never
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[Mailman-Users] Migrating lists

[Jason Dixon]

I have a number of mailman lists that I'm attempting to migrate from an 
older OpenBSD server running Mailman 2.1.2 to a new RHEL server running 
Mailman 2.1.5.  I built the new version from source, setting the 
mail-gid (postfix) and cgi-gid (apache) accordingly.  I then copied 
over everything in /var/spool/mailman and set permissions for mailman 
ownership.

Unfortunately, it appears that the mailing lists will need additional 
manipulation to get them working properly.  I'm seeing the following 
errors when sending test mails to a list:

Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; Command died with status 2:
"/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post hatchet-users". Command 
output: Group
mismatch error.  Mailman expected the mail wrapper script to be 
executed as
group "postfix", but the system's mail server executed the mail 
script as
group "nobody".  Try tweaking the mail server to run the script as 
group
"postfix", or re-run configure,  providing the command line option
`--with-mail-gid=nobody'.

What can I do to resolve this?  Do I need to manually dump/restore list 
configurations from the old server (if so, how)?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Migrating lists

[Jason Dixon]

On Aug 7, 2004, at 12:08 PM, Jason Dixon wrote:
I have a number of mailman lists that I'm attempting to migrate from 
an older OpenBSD server running Mailman 2.1.2 to a new RHEL server 
running Mailman 2.1.5.  I built the new version from source, setting 
the mail-gid (postfix) and cgi-gid (apache) accordingly.  I then 
copied over everything in /var/spool/mailman and set permissions for 
mailman ownership.
Sorry, please disregard.  I forgot that postfix uses "nobody" as the 
default_privs setting.  I've rebuilt mailman and it works fine now.

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[Mailman-Users] Mailing List

[Jason Paul]

Is there any way I can get one list off all the members in a mailing list so
I can move them to another domain with a different list?
Thanks in advance!
Jason Paul
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[Mailman-Users] Message digest/archive oddity ...

[Jason LaMar]

A list subscriber submitted an HTML e-mail message from Outlook with a Word
attachment. It came across as a multi-part MIME, with these content type
headers (in this order) ...

Content-Type: multipart/alternative;

Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Content-Type: text/html;
charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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[Mailman-Users] Message digest/archive oddity ...

[Jason LaMar]

Sorry about that. Let's try this again.

A list subscriber submitted an HTML e-mail message from Outlook with a Word
attachment. It came across as a multi-part MIME, with these content type
headers (in this order):

--=_NextPart_000_0001_01C5A33B.DBC4C170
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary="=_NextPart_001_0002_01C5A33B.DBC4C170"

--=_NextPart_001_0002_01C5A33B.DBC4C170
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

--=_NextPart_001_0002_01C5A33B.DBC4C170
Content-Type: text/html;
charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

--=_NextPart_000_0001_01C5A33B.DBC4C170
Content-Type: application/msword;
name="advice to faculty.doc"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Disposition: attachment;
filename="advice to faculty.doc"

The body text of the message was under both the text/plain (unformatted) and
text/html (formatted) areas, and the message and attachment both rendered
fine for non-digest recipients.

Yet in both the digest and the archives, this message was simply listed as:

Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-- next part
--
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: advice to faculty.doc
Type: application/msword
Size: 29696 bytes
Desc: not available


What happened? Why did the body of the message disappear? And how do I
prevent this from happening again?

Jason

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Libraries and Information Services
Ohio Wesleyan University; Delaware, OH 43015
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[Mailman-Users] Digest "flag" in membership list? ...

[Jason LaMar]

A disclaimer: I realize our implementation is not at all what was intended
for "typical" Mailman usage, but ...

We have lists where:

* the subscribers don't know their individual passwords for Web access

* the subscribers don't have Web access to Mailman subscription features

* we (the admins) manually control whether subscribers get to use digest
mode, based on their e-mail requests

The lists are set up this way because this is the main "campus-wide
alert/announcement system" for e-mail, so we want to guarantee that everyone
is SUPPOSED to get every message sent to these lists.

OK, so here's the kicker. Based on a somewhat transient user population (we
regularly lose and add a small fraction of students, and sometimes even
employees), we've developed an external script to regularly cross-check the
current subscriber list and then update it with subscriber additions and
removals as necessary.

Unfortunately, when the lists are "refreshed," all individual subscriber
parameters (like digest mode) are wiped out to their defaults. So my
question is: Is there some sort of flag associated with each subscriber
entry that indicates digest usage, that we should be sure not to touch
during the list refresh? Or, to put it more broadly, how would you suggest
doing backend (non-subscriber) list maintenance that doesn't impact
individual subscriber preferences?



Thanks,

Jason

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[Mailman-Users] third-level domains

[Jason Pfingstmann]

First off, to give you all a general overview:
1  Web Server - handles domain.com, www.domain.com requests
2  Mail Server - Postfix using virtual domains from mySQL DB

I have mailman on the mail server (since it seems to require this) and so
installed apache on it.  DNS points all domains "mail.domain.com" to the
mail server.  Since the mailman user access and admin access pages are
pointed to the domain of the list, using mail.domain.com makes sense for
lists.  So [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The issue is, I have the following in my mm_cfg.py:
POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['mail.azxws.com']
add_virtualhost('mail.azxws.com')

I have postfix transport for mail.azxws.com set to virtual
When I am the mailman user and do ./bin/newlist [EMAIL PROTECTED], I get
an e-mail to the admin account I specify with links to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], not mail.azxws.com.
Also, when I send e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I get an error that it
loops back upon itself, and when I try [EMAIL PROTECTED] I get an error that
the user doesn't exist (since azxws.com is a virtual domain that has
e-mail addresses used by it).

Please let me know what might help troubleshoot this.  I'm at my wits end.
 Thanks.

Jason Pfingstmann


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[Mailman-Users] [Fixed] third-level domains

[Jason Pfingstmann]

I was having issues with sub domains.  (Sorry, not TLD, thinko).  Here's
what I did so others might be helped by this:

mm_cfg.py:
MTA = "Postfix"
OWNERS_CAN_DELETE_THEIR_OWN_LISTS = Yes
POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['lists.domain.com','lists.domain2.com']
add_virtualhost('lists.domain.com','lists.domain.com')
add_virtualhost('lists.domain2.com','lists.domain2.com')


Defaults.py (Just lists the following, and not for all domains, just 1
entry):
DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'mail.domain.com'
DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'lists.domain.com'

That got it to work.  I hope this helps someone else, I'm sure that there
may be more elegant ways to do this.  If I missed the point on something,
please correct me.  Thanks.

-Jason Pfingstmann


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[Mailman-Users] Unsubscribing via e-mail ...

[Jason LaMar]

I just want to confirm that it's possible for a list member to unsubscribe
from a list via e-mail -- with an e-mail reply confirmation, rather than any
sort of password confirmation -- if they send a blank message to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Also, what if this message ISN'T blank? Will Mailman disregard and message
body content, assuming this address is correct for the list?



Thanks,

Jason

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[Mailman-Users] Mailman capacity?

[Jason LaMar]

We're creating a list with roughly 15,000 recipients. Can Mailman handle
this? And will the system "throttle" delivery of messages -- which should
only take place once a week, from the moderator -- to such a large list?

Jason

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[Mailman-Users] archive question

[Jason (WeatherServer)]

I have about 25 lists currently. Is there a way I can mass set the archive 
settings on them all?

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[Mailman-Users] Delivery Rates

[Jason (WeatherServer)]

Anyone know the best numbers to have in Delivery Rates in PostFix for 
mailman lists?


Or is there a better server to use with mailman then postfix





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Re: [Mailman-Users] huge delays in email posts?

[Jason (WeatherServer)]

I've heard of other providers with this issue. It turned out there mail 
systems had a limit of how much email per hour you could send out. Every 
other email over that limit is just rejected until the next hour when your 
limits are reset. Now you said they don't do throttling but could they be 
doing this and just not counting it as part of there throttling process?


- Original Message - 
From: "Mike D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 1:51 PM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] huge delays in email posts?


Hi everyone,

I hope someone can help me out with this.  I just last month has to
move my mailman list from one hosting company to another.  The new
company has installed mailman 2.1.5 on the latest version of their
Plesk server.  Everything seems to be running fine with the exception
of mail coming out of the server with delays up to 24 hours.  I have
a moderated list and messages sent to it are immediately showing up
in the pending que.

I notice the delays in two areas.  The first is pending notices
awaiting approval emails.  I will often not get an email of a pending
post for hours or even a day after it appears in the pending que.
The second delay is after I approve the email.  It will often not
show up in members inboxes for hours and even a day.  The new hosting
company has been very patient and wanting to help, but they don't
know where to go from here.  They are new to mailman.

I can tell you that they don't use email throttling.  I know there
may be one or two crons that mailman may have set up, but they don't
know what they may be or what they do.  Can anyone offer some advice
that I can pass on to them to check?  Any help would be greatly
appreciated.

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