[Mailman-Users] (no subject)
Hi I just converted MTA to postfix now I'm getting this error when a list is sent to any suggestion how to fix. Pleas be detailed if you could.I'm not the regular tech on this one...its holiday time Reporting-MTA: dns; mail.whateverdomain.com Arrival-Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 13:26:40 -0600 (CST) Final-Recipient: rfc822; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Action: failed Status: 5.0.0 Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; Command died with status 2: "/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post stcinc". Command output: Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 12, GOT gid 99. (Reconfigure to take 99?) -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] (no subject)
Hi I just converted MTA to postfix now I'm getting this error when a list is sent to any suggestion how to fix. Pleas be detailed if you could.I'm not the regular tech on this one...its holiday time Reporting-MTA: dns; mail.whateverdomain.com Arrival-Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 13:26:40 -0600 (CST) Final-Recipient: rfc822; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Action: failed Status: 5.0.0 Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; Command died with status 2: "/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post stcinc". Command output: Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 12, GOT gid 99. (Reconfigure to take 99?) -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Newbie Question - Setting up email
dnbuy.net is the site where I registered my domain. I use their URL forwarding to my roadrunner acct for my website. I also have a pop3 acct set up through dnbuy for my domain. When someone sends an email to my domain, it goes to their dns server and is then processed through their pop3 server. I have my mail program setup to check mail via pop3 into my inbox. I have created an email address for the list [EMAIL PROTECTED] When someone send a post to that address it just sits there in the inbox on my pop3 server at dnbuy. How do I configure mailman and exim (thought it was sendmail before but it is exim4) to get posts from that acct and send them to everyone on my list? I hope that clarifies the question. I guess I know nothing about aliases. I am new to this. I set the default host in mailman to ascendnetwork.com. I subscribed to the list and the welcome email I get shows [EMAIL PROTECTED] as the post to address but when I send a message to the address it doesn't come back to me through the list. Again, I dont know how to set it up to get posts from my pop3 account and send them to the list members. Thanks for the help. Greg Burnett -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Mailing list not getting sent out
Hi, When i setup the mailing list the confirmation email gets sent out to the admin and also the people who sign up for it but when i try to send a mailing it doest get forwarded on, it appears to be sent properly and i dont get any messages back saying that the message could not be delivered. I am running this on a redhat vds. Thanks for any help you may be able to give me. Greg -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] help.
I am lost! I need step by step instruction on launching the Mailman system. I need to be able to send a lot of emails at once and have no idea on how to even get started. I have read and checked out every link provided and still can't figure it out. Can you help please? -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] MM 2.1 - How to show member name, but not member address in member list
Hi, is it possible to show only the member name, but keep their email address hidden from the member list, that non-admin members may view? I'd like my members to see who, by name, is on the list, but not divulge their email addresses. The hide flag on membership management hides everything. Thanks, Greg -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: MM 2.1 - How to show member name, but not member address in member list
Apologies for the bump. Didn't see your reply, Mark. -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: Feature Request - Show Member Name but not email address
I can see the potential for that issue. But I don't see that as a reason for not making it at least available to admins who might want it. Further, if a user does does not want to provide complete, or any, name at all, with Mailman, at least, I don't think that can be mitigated. OTOH, if one collects email addresses by way of a form front-end, one can require name along with email address. -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Duplicate postings?
Seasons Greetings All! Say, have been experiencing random duplicate postings to this list lately. Have others observed the same problem? -- Regards, GC -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] upgrade problem
> This probably means that you are trying to run check_perms from the source > directory. You must run this from the installation directory instead. Did you try doing what it suggests here? Greg --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregwestin.com/ Contact info: http://www.gregwestin.com/contact.php -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 3, Issue 53
Check the archives for this... I remember reading posts about this maybe a month ago, but I don't remember if it was solved or not. Sorry I can't be of more help. -Greg > From: Steve Rifkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Passwords of members UPDATE > > WHOA! Here is something weird... all my mailman files are owned by user mailman > and group mailman. > > At the list level, for a test list (mmtest), the dir looks like: > > -rw-rw 1 mailman mailman 3082 Dec 27 11:48 config.db > -rw-rw 1 mailman mailman 3082 Dec 27 11:47 config.db.last > -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 869 Dec 26 16:57 request.db > -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 189 Jan 30 2002 handle_opts.html > -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 1026 Jan 30 2002 headfoot.html > -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 3136 Jan 30 2002 listinfo.html > -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 4106 Jan 30 2002 options.html > -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 1169 Jan 30 2002 roster.html > -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 198 Jan 30 2002 subscribe.html > -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 1706 Jan 30 2002 admindbpreamble.html > > > That's ok. HOWEVER, whenever I log into a list or try to make changes to a > list as the site admin, the ownership changes for config.db: > > -rw-rw 1 nobody mailman 3082 Dec 27 11:50 config.db > -rw-rw 1 mailman mailman 3082 Dec 27 11:48 config.db.last > -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 869 Dec 26 16:57 request.db > -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 189 Jan 30 2002 handle_opts.html > -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 1026 Jan 30 2002 headfoot.html > -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 3136 Jan 30 2002 listinfo.html > -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 4106 Jan 30 2002 options.html > -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 1169 Jan 30 2002 roster.html > -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 198 Jan 30 2002 subscribe.html > -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 1706 Jan 30 2002 admindbpreamble.html > > > And the filesize for config.db does not change. I suspect that the config.db > file is not changing at all when I attempt changes logged in as the site admin. > > The only change to the file is config.db's ownership keeps changing to nobody! > > Why? > > Maybe the above is a clue to the problem! > > Any thoughts? > > Steve > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Default Mail host name
I'm just setting up my mail server and Mailman 2.1, and noticed that the configure script can't find my proper mail host name. When I ran the script earlier, it came up with my username, which for some reason was the hostname my computer was defaulting to. I changed the hostname in /etc/hostconfig, and used both the 'hostname' and 'domainname' commands to specify gregwestin.com as my host name, and now when I run the configure script I get a default mail host name and default URL host component assigned by my service provider. I'm running OS X and using Mailman 2.1 with Postfix. Any ideas? Thanks, Greg --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregwestin.com/ Contact info: http://www.gregwestin.com/contact.php -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] List names not shown in available lists page.
I know that questions of lists showing up on admin pages but not listinfo pages are in the archives, but I don't know if any resolutions for the issue are. Greg --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregwestin.com/ Contact info: http://www.gregwestin.com/contact.php On 14 Jan 2003, Jon Carnes wrote: > I'll bet they show up in the admin page though... Check the URL's for > the lists and make sure that they are correct (and that they match your > current web configuration). > > On Mon, 2003-01-13 at 22:50, Brian D. Beers wrote: > > > > I am running Mailman 2.1 on Solaris 9. No minor feat to configure! > > > > The lists I have imported from the older version of mailmain, 2.0, on a > > different server, do not show in the listinfo page. The lists are all > > marked to advertise in the privacy options. If I create a new list, it > > is displayed correctly. > > > > Any ideas? > > > > > > -- > > Mailman-Users mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com > > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/greg%40gregwestin.com > -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] subscriber names
This should be in the FAQ, but basically any generally-accepted format should work. For example: "User 1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> John Doe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Williams, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Just make sure there's only one per line. To quote a message from me, quoting a message from Barry, found by searching the archives: --- To quote a message from Barry, found by searching the archives of this list, --- Actually, any format recognized by email.Utils.parseaddr() is acceptable: http://www.python.org/doc/current/lib/module-email.Utils.html so Anne Person <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Brian D. Ude" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- --- I hope that helps, Greg --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregwestin.com/ Contact info: http://www.gregwestin.com/contact.php On Tue, 14 Jan 2003, Con Wieland wrote: > Hello > > I am looking at Mailman 2.1 and I really like the feature of a real name > associated with the email address, however I am unable to figure out how > to edit this except after they are subscribed from the "Membership List" > page. I have looked everywhere, isn't there a way to add there name at > the same time you subscribe them? > > TIA > Con Wieland > UC Irvine > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/greg%40gregwestin.com > -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives in HTML?
Is it possible to set up Mhonarc without re-archiving everything, and then try re-archiving using Mhonarc, but have things such that if I can't get Mhonarc working I can easily re-archive with Pipermail? The FAQ still says "A HOWTO for this was posted to the mailman-developers list and should be copied in here once someone finds it." Basically, my setup is such that I don't particularly care if the archives have to be down for a few hours or even days, but changing to Mhonarc isn't so important that I want to try it if things might go wrong and leave me with NO archives - especially seeing as I don't really know anything about Mhonarc, except that everyone seems to thinks it's better than Pipermail. Thanks, Greg --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregwestin.com/ Contact info: http://www.gregwestin.com/contact.php On 15 Jan 2003, Jon Carnes wrote: > Use something like Mhonarc as your archive application. Pipermail > doesn't do a good job with html. > > Another alternative is to write a small script that converts the html > into text inside the mbox that the archive program uses (lynx will help > you do this). Then you can delete the old archives and re-archive using > the ~mailman/bin/arch command. > > I'm still playing with version 2.1 of Mailman so I don't know if it has > this functionality built into it. > > Jon Carnes > > On Tue, 2003-01-14 at 22:15, Jim Hale wrote: > > I started a mailing list for 'Blinkies' and 99% of the messages that > > come thru are in HTML. They come thru my list just fine, but the > > archives are majorly ugly. Is there a way to have the HTML messages > > display in HTML in the archives? > > > > Using 2.1 Release. :) > > > > Thanks! > > > > Jim Hale > > --- > > 'The OS Tells The PC What To Do With Itself" - Me, 1990 > > --- > > Visit Our MIDI & Digital Audio Website at http://hale.dyndns.org > > > > > > -- > > Mailman-Users mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com > > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/greg%40gregwestin.com > -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] RE: Archives in HTML? (Jim Hale)
I think this is what you're looking for: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=all#4.4 You want the second option, on adding an archiving address to each list. I hope that helps, Greg --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregwestin.com/ Contact info: http://www.gregwestin.com/contact.php On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, schuetzen - RKBA! wrote: > On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 12:47:01 -0500, "Armstrong, Scott Mr CECOM RDEC NVESD" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >. We maintain a subscribed > >user in each list which runs a hypermail pipe to keep the archives up to > >date > > is this a basic feature or have I missed a tip and how does it work? > thanks > chas > > > > ... > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/greg%40gregwestin.com > -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] misfeature/bug in MM 2.1
> Why should the list administrator be bothered with having to > tend admin requests from spammers and other idiots? Jeff, I assume this is because people are generally more concerned about false positives in spam-checking than they are with having to glance at a few admin requests. I suppose most people would probably be content with rejecting or even discarding the messages, so long as a copy is forwarded to the moderator to make sure it wasn't a valid post, but I know that for most of my lists, I would prefer generic_nonmember_action to by Hold. I assume that administrators of sites that have much higher volumes of spam and whatnot would prefer your suggestion, but I think that administrators of small sites don't have to deal with spam as much. At any rate, I don't know if the default is great or not, but I support it. I think I might be awfully annoyed if I had just set up Mailman, set up my first list, and my first attempt to send a message to it was automatically rejected, because I'd sent the message from a different e-mail account than I signed up to the list, and because I hadn't read through the many many pages of options for the list. ::shrug:: Just thought I'd toss out my two cents. Greg --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregwestin.com/ Contact info: http://www.gregwestin.com/contact.php -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] no public lists in listinfo after move
I know this has come up before (maybe not the same issue, but probably - where listinfo doesn't work but admin does) - try searching through the archives of this list. Sorry, but I don't remember what the solution to this is (despite the fact that it happened to me, once!) Greg On Friday, January 17, 2003, at 02:33 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all- I'm new to this list but have been using mailman successfully for quite some time. I have run into a snag, however. I'm changing mailman servers (going from RedHat 7.1 to RedHat 7.3), and near as I can tell all I needed to do was copy the mailman folder over to the new server, make sure the apache and mailman GIDs remained the same, symlink the wrapper into /etc/smrsh, and then feed in the crontab stuff. I did all this, and everything seems to work except when I go to the listinfo page, I don't get any public mailing lists there. If I know the name of the list, I can get to it, and if I go to the admin page all the public lists are listed there, but not on the listinfo page. Now on that machine if I give the apache user a shell account and su as it, then run the listinfo script manually, it does print out an html page with all the expected mailman lists. Weird eh? I emptied my browser so I know it's not the cache. I know the apache ScriptAlias lines are correct because all the other stuff works ok (I can even login as an admin, or view a lists archives). Any suggestions on where to look next? Thanks in advance, Brian -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/ greg%40gregwestin.com -- http://www.gregwestin.com Contact info: http://www.gregwestin.com/contact.php -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with a regular expression
I think what you want to do to fix this is add a carat ("^") before the
first slash:
RedirectMatch ^/mailman[/]*$ http://www.example.com/mailman/listinfo
That way, it only catches it if "/mailman" occurs at the beginning of
the string.
Personally, I use a little more inclusive regular expression, because I
want it to also redirect any requests for the top level
(http://lists.example.com) to the listinfo page:
RewriteRule ^[/]{0,1}(mailman[/]{0,1}){0,1}$/mailman/listinfo
[L,R]
I claim to be no master of regular expressions, though... because wow
that looks ugly. That notwithstanding, I think my advice on your
situation is correct.
Greg
On Saturday, January 18, 2003, at 02:09 AM, Paul Kleeberg wrote:
I know this is a simple question but I don't have the knowledge to
figure it out.
I am running RedHat 8.0 and which came with Mailman 2.0.13. It
suggests adding the following to the httpd.conf file:
# Uncomment the following line, replacing www.example.com with your
server's
# name, to redirect queries to /mailman to the listinfo page
(recommended).
# RedirectMatch /mailman[/]*$ http://www.example.com/mailman/listinfo
That used to work fine. I just upgraded to Mailman 2.1. I created
the list "mailman" as instructed at the end of section 4 of the
INSTALL document but cannot get to the administrative page
http://www.example.com/mailman/admin/mailman or the list overview page
http://www.example.com/mailman/listinfo/mailman because
"RedirectMatch" thinks it is http://www.example.com/mailman and just
redirects it the top level listinfo page.
I am aware that I have two options:
1. Rename the "mailman" list
2. Remove the "RedirectMatch" statement from the httpd.conf file.
Is there a third? I tried fiddling with the regular expression, but I
just do not know what I am doing. Any help would be appreciated.
Paul
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with a regular expression
Just in case anyone was actually thinking of using that regexp I sent,
my limited knowledge tells me that this would be a slightly better
incarnation:
RewriteRule ^/(mailman[/]{0,1}){0,1}$ /mailman/listinfo [L,R]
Greg
On Saturday, January 18, 2003, at 09:46 AM, Greg Westin wrote:
I think what you want to do to fix this is add a carat ("^") before
the first slash:
RedirectMatch ^/mailman[/]*$ http://www.example.com/mailman/listinfo
That way, it only catches it if "/mailman" occurs at the beginning of
the string.
Personally, I use a little more inclusive regular expression, because
I want it to also redirect any requests for the top level
(http://lists.example.com) to the listinfo page:
RewriteRule ^[/]{0,1}(mailman[/]{0,1}){0,1}$/mailman/listinfo
[L,R]
I claim to be no master of regular expressions, though... because wow
that looks ugly. That notwithstanding, I think my advice on your
situation is correct.
Greg
On Saturday, January 18, 2003, at 02:09 AM, Paul Kleeberg wrote:
I know this is a simple question but I don't have the knowledge to
figure it out.
I am running RedHat 8.0 and which came with Mailman 2.0.13. It
suggests adding the following to the httpd.conf file:
# Uncomment the following line, replacing www.example.com with your
server's
# name, to redirect queries to /mailman to the listinfo page
(recommended).
# RedirectMatch /mailman[/]*$ http://www.example.com/mailman/listinfo
That used to work fine. I just upgraded to Mailman 2.1. I created
the list "mailman" as instructed at the end of section 4 of the
INSTALL document but cannot get to the administrative page
http://www.example.com/mailman/admin/mailman or the list overview
page http://www.example.com/mailman/listinfo/mailman because
"RedirectMatch" thinks it is http://www.example.com/mailman and just
redirects it the top level listinfo page.
I am aware that I have two options:
1. Rename the "mailman" list
2. Remove the "RedirectMatch" statement from the httpd.conf file.
Is there a third? I tried fiddling with the regular expression, but
I just do not know what I am doing. Any help would be appreciated.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with a regular expression
I don't know what the I or | or whatever that is does - I assume it
does the same thing as {0,1}. But the important difference between the
rule I use:
RewriteRule ^/(mailman[/]{0,1}){0,1}$/mailman/listinfo [L,R]
and the ones you suggested is that mine also redirects requests for /
to /mailman/listinfo. You may or may not want that functionality, of
course. Again, I don't claim to be an expert in any of this stuff...
considering your comments, perhaps this would be the best for what I
want to do:
RewriteRule ^/(mailman(|/)){0,1}$ /mailman/listinfo [PT]
I don't know if you can use nested parentheses, and I don't know if the
PT flag is something I'd want, but whatever works...
Greg
On Saturday, January 18, 2003, at 02:15 PM, Richard Barrett wrote:
At 14:46 18/01/2003, Greg Westin wrote:
I think what you want to do to fix this is add a carat ("^") before
the
first slash:
RedirectMatch ^/mailman[/]*$ http://www.example.com/mailman/listinfo
That way, it only catches it if "/mailman" occurs at the beginning of
the string.
Personally, I use a little more inclusive regular expression, because
I
want it to also redirect any requests for the top level
(http://lists.example.com) to the listinfo page:
RewriteRule ^[/]{0,1}(mailman[/]{0,1}){0,1}$/mailman/listinfo
[L,R]
What's wrong with:
RedirectMatch permanent ^/mailman(|/)$ /mailman/listinfo
or, if you have mod_rewrite and the rewrite engine on:
RewriteRule ^/mailman(|/)$ /mailman/listinfo [R,L]
or even better:
RewriteRule ^/mailman(|/)$ /mailman/listinfo [PT]
The latter has the advantage, courtesy of the PT flag, of delivering
the /mailman/listinfo page immediately instead of making the browser
do a second request (each time it visits) to follow the redirection
response produced by the initial request, if that request's URI path
was /mailman or /mailman/
I claim to be no master of regular expressions, though... because wow
that looks ugly. That notwithstanding, I think my advice on your
situation is correct.
Greg
On Saturday, January 18, 2003, at 02:09 AM, Paul Kleeberg wrote:
I know this is a simple question but I don't have the knowledge to
figure it out.
I am running RedHat 8.0 and which came with Mailman 2.0.13. It
suggests adding the following to the httpd.conf file:
# Uncomment the following line, replacing www.example.com with your
server's
# name, to redirect queries to /mailman to the listinfo page
(recommended).
# RedirectMatch /mailman[/]*$ http://www.example.com/mailman/listinfo
That used to work fine. I just upgraded to Mailman 2.1. I created
the list "mailman" as instructed at the end of section 4 of the
INSTALL document but cannot get to the administrative page
http://www.example.com/mailman/admin/mailman or the list overview
page
http://www.example.com/mailman/listinfo/mailman because
"RedirectMatch" thinks it is http://www.example.com/mailman and just
redirects it the top level listinfo page.
I am aware that I have two options:
1. Rename the "mailman" list
2. Remove the "RedirectMatch" statement from the httpd.conf file.
Is there a third? I tried fiddling with the regular expression, but
I
just do not know what I am doing. Any help would be appreciated.
Paul
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[Mailman-Users] list of lists fodder for spammers?
Hello Mailman folk, I work with a group that provides services to student groups at a university, and we're concerned that a lot of the lists have been picking up spam lately. The prime suspect, at this point, is Mailman's publishing of list names. If you can provide any input on how to alleviate this problem, please let me know. I'm copying below a message (slightly modified) from one of the more knowledgeable people I work with: --- My real concern with the behavior of the listinfo and admin scripts is that they publish the list of lists not only when invoked without arguments, but also if invoked on a non-existent list name. Because apache can be configured to reject outside of ourdomain.edu or wherever requests for "http://lists.ourdomain.edu/mailman/listinfo";, while still allowing "http://lists.ourdomain.edu/mailman/listinfo/hcs-discuss";, but what if spammers start generating random list names and sending, e.g., "http://lists.ourdomain.edu/mailman/listinfo/sp4m";? No way to stop such attacks except for Mailman to change its behavior (which the patched version on lists.ourdomain currently does). --- The patched version he's referring to simply denies access to /mailman/listinfo (but not to /mailman/listinfo/valid-list-name) to every request not from our domain. It's an ugly hack, but it's generally fine because students will almost always be working from a university computer, except perhaps when home on vacation. Thanks for any help. Please reply off-list if you're getting this via mailman-developers, as I'm not subscribed to that list. I am on mailman-users, though. Greg Westin -- http://www.gregwestin.com Contact info: http://www.gregwestin.com/contact.php -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] list of lists fodder for spammers?
As for the list names being mined for spam, I've found that the biggest worry is the web-enabled archives. It doesn't seem very likely to me that spammers would find the list addresses in the archives. Obviously, the addresses of posters are there (these can be obscured in 2.1, right?), but I don't see the list addresses anywhere. Our problem with spam going to lists... obviously, we don't want individuals getting spam, either, but our current concern is about lists being spammed. Mailman's features can help a little against spam. You can set your lists so that they only accept mail from either a list member or from a user on the local domain. That's an interesting idea... I assume we can set it to accept from list members and some given set of domains? That might be a very appropriate thing to implement. Thanks. Greg Good Luck - Jon Carnes On Sun, 2003-01-26 at 12:26, Greg Westin wrote: Hello Mailman folk, I work with a group that provides services to student groups at a university, and we're concerned that a lot of the lists have been picking up spam lately. The prime suspect, at this point, is Mailman's publishing of list names. If you can provide any input on how to alleviate this problem, please let me know. I'm copying below a message (slightly modified) from one of the more knowledgeable people I work with: --- My real concern with the behavior of the listinfo and admin scripts is that they publish the list of lists not only when invoked without arguments, but also if invoked on a non-existent list name. Because apache can be configured to reject outside of ourdomain.edu or wherever requests for "http://lists.ourdomain.edu/mailman/listinfo";, while still allowing "http://lists.ourdomain.edu/mailman/listinfo/hcs-discuss";, but what if spammers start generating random list names and sending, e.g., "http://lists.ourdomain.edu/mailman/listinfo/sp4m";? No way to stop such attacks except for Mailman to change its behavior (which the patched version on lists.ourdomain currently does). --- The patched version he's referring to simply denies access to /mailman/listinfo (but not to /mailman/listinfo/valid-list-name) to every request not from our domain. It's an ugly hack, but it's generally fine because students will almost always be working from a university computer, except perhaps when home on vacation. Thanks for any help. Please reply off-list if you're getting this via mailman-developers, as I'm not subscribed to that list. I am on mailman-users, though. Greg Westin -- http://www.gregwestin.com Contact info: http://www.gregwestin.com/contact.php -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/ greg%40gregwestin.com -- http://www.gregwestin.com Contact info: http://www.gregwestin.com/contact.php -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Bundle Htdig with Pipermail? -was- How to deletemessages from private archives
I agree. htdig and python are both on the redhat cd's. I fear that htdig will become part of the mailman package as pipermail is. I really don't know much about this stuff, but two thoughts: -Not all of us use redhat. So what is or isn't on the redhat cds shouldn't be a deciding factor in decision about including features, though obviously it should be considered. -Patches are all well and good, but I'd venture to guess that many users wouldn't be comfortable patching Mailman for fear of messing something up. However, everyone probably wants archives that are to some degree searchable. It seems to me that beginners would want searchability out-of-the-box, but be afraid to patch; users who want more powerful searching are almost certainly willing to apply patches, etc.; users who don't want searching are... I don't know any of those people. I certainly understand, of course, concerns about making the Mailman package excessively large, and concerns by developers about tying themselves to development of a new component. However, I think users have come to expect that they can search things in archives -- if an archiver is going to be included with Mailman, I think some search capability ought to be. Greg -- http://www.gregwestin.com Contact info: http://www.gregwestin.com/contact.php -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] virtual domains
I've searched the archives and FAQ for answers, but only see questions
with no replies. I hope someone makes a FAQ about virtual domains! (or
makes it easier to find if it exists!)
I can't get lists on virtual domains to work right. The web pages for the
list properly show it as being on the virtual domain, but when I send
messages to the list, it shows up as being to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is the domain listed in the
'mydomain' variable in Postfix, but I don't think it's anywhere in
the Mailman configuration files. Also, virtual-mailman isn't touched
when creating lists on virtual domains. Below is more information about
my setup.
I'm using Postfix as my MTA. In my Postfix main.cf file, I have the
following line:
virtual_maps= hash:/etc/postfix/virtual,
hash:/usr/local/mailman/data/virtual-mailman
In my mm_cfg.py file, I have the following relevant lines:
MTA = 'Postfix'
POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['virtualdom1.ain', 'virtualdom2.ain']
POSTFIX_ALIAS_CMD = '/usr/local/bin/postalias'
POSTFIX_MAP_CMD = '/usr/local/bin/postmap'
#VIRTUAL_HOSTS = {'virtualdom1.ain','virtualdom2.ain'}
add_virtualhost('virtualdom1.ain')
#VIRTUAL_HOST['virtualdom1.ain']
add_virtualhost('virtualdom2.ain')
#VIRTUAL_HOST['virtualdom2.ain']
Any help would be appreciated.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] virtual domains (virtual hosts)
Thanks... I think it was just a silly mistake. I'd had:
add_virtualhost('virtualdom1.ain')
instead of:
add_virtualhost('www.virtualdom1.ain','virtualdom1.ain')
Now things seem to be working great. I ran genaliases and all seems right
with the world.
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On Wed, 28 May 2003, hooch wrote:
>
> On Tue, 27 May 2003 14:23:24 -0400 (EDT)
> Greg Westin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I've searched the archives and FAQ for answers, but only see questions
> > with no replies. I hope someone makes a FAQ about virtual domains! (or
> > makes it easier to find if it exists!)
> >
> > I can't get lists on virtual domains to work right. The web pages for the
> > list properly show it as being on the virtual domain, but when I send
> > messages to the list, it shows up as being to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is the domain listed in the
> > 'mydomain' variable in Postfix, but I don't think it's anywhere in
> > the Mailman configuration files. Also, virtual-mailman isn't touched
> > when creating lists on virtual domains. Below is more information about
> > my setup.
>
>
> I agree, documentation on virtual domains is not the best :)
>
> I waited on #mailman and got some assistance, it seems that the
> latest documentation is in the various bin/ scripts' --help
>
>
> I'm not sure of your postfix setup, but i configured mm-cfg.py:
>
> add_virtualhost('www.virtualdom1.ain','virtualdom1.ain')
>
>
> And when I add a list like this:
>
> bin/newlist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> I find the mail host is configured as 'virtualdom1.ain'.
>
>
> I was able to reconfigure an existing list similarly:
>
> bin/withlist -l -r fix_url list-name -u www.virtualdom1.ain -v
>
>
> Content on the mailman website about 'virtual hosts' seems to be cruft :)
>
>
> Hope this helps
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Chris Paul
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[Mailman-Users] bug?
Bug in Mailman version 2.1.2 We're sorry, we hit a bug! If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a copy of this page to the webmaster for this site with a description of what happened. Thanks! Traceback: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver", line 87, in run_main main() File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line 169, in main change_options(mlist, category, subcat, cgidata, doc) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line 1223, in change_options gui.handleForm(mlist, category, subcat, cgidata, doc) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Gui/GUIBase.py", line 156, in handleForm self._setValue(mlist, property, val, doc) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Gui/Digest.py", line 148, in _setValue status = mlist.send_digest_now() File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Digester.py", line 60, in send_digest_now ToDigest.send_digests(self, mboxfp) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 130, in send_digests send_i18n_digests(mlist, mboxfp) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 303, in send_i18n_digests msg = scrubber(mlist, msg) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py", line 178, in process raise DiscardMessage DiscardMessage Python information: VariableValue sys.version 2.2.2 (#1, Apr 6 2003, 18:09:02) [GCC 3.2] sys.executable /usr/local/bin/python sys.prefix /usr/local sys.exec_prefix /usr/local sys.path/usr/local sys.platformsunos5 Environment variables: Variable Value PATH_INFO /defendnet/digest HTTP_ACCEPT text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/plain;q=0.8,video/x-mng,image/png,image/jpeg,image/gif;q=0.2,*/*;q=0.1 CONTENT_TYPEapplication/x-www-form-urlencoded HTTP_REFERERhttp://lists.in.gov/mailman/admin/defendnet/digest SERVER_SOFTWARE Apache/1.3.27 (Unix) PYTHONPATH /usr/local/mailman SCRIPT_FILENAME /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/admin SERVER_ADMIN[EMAIL PROTECTED] SCRIPT_NAME /mailman/admin SERVER_SIGNATURE Apache/1.3.27 Server at lists.IN.gov Port 80 REQUEST_METHOD POST HTTP_HOST lists.in.gov HTTP_KEEP_ALIVE 300 SERVER_PROTOCOL HTTP/1.1 QUERY_STRING HTTP_CONNECTION keep-alive REQUEST_URI /mailman/admin/defendnet/digest CONTENT_LENGTH 439 HTTP_ACCEPT_CHARSET ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7 HTTP_USER_AGENT Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030526 TZ US/East-Indiana HTTP_COOKIE defendnet+admin=28020069e084d93e7328003031663138626633303961636130336334326630663164316262613839633561396538343930; greg-test+admin=28020069f091d93e73280032633136633837343932626633396631363939353532366633633838663464393664353066366531 SERVER_NAME lists.IN.gov REMOTE_ADDR 68.58.49.104 REMOTE_PORT 37794 HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGEen-us,en;q=0.5 PATH_TRANSLATED /usr/local/apache/share/htdocs/defendnet/digest SERVER_PORT 80 GATEWAY_INTERFACE CGI/1.1 HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODINGgzip,deflate,compress;q=0.9 SERVER_ADDR 10.8.51.75 DOCUMENT_ROOT /usr/local/apache/share/htdocs -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] messages not posting to the list,but being digested?
Hello, I have a question... I have a list that had digesting turned on. It's now off. This list runs on Solaris 9, Python 2.2.2, Qmail, and Mailman 2.1.2 (although I had the problem with 2.1.1 too). Two times now, I've had messages meant to be posted to the list get discarded. All that happened, I thought, was that the messages were being discarded, as shown in the vette log. However, the digest.mbox file was getting updated, so I cat /dev/null > digest.mbox and then turn off digesting, and it works. ?? -- any suggestions? -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] yet another undocumented, undiscussed bug
Let's see how this one works...the last time I had a problem I got no response to two separate posts. We had a server crash yesterday, and I brought the server back online. Since then, I have this problem when viewing the mailman web interface or trying to run check_dbs: Bug in Mailman version 2.1.2 We're sorry, we hit a bug! If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a copy of this page to the webmaster for this site with a description of what happened. Thanks! Traceback: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver", line 87, in run_main main() File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/listinfo.py", line 42, in main listinfo_overview() File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/listinfo.py", line 87, in listinfo_overview mlist = MailList.MailList(name, lock=0) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 124, in __init__ self.Load() File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 583, in Load dict, e = self.__load(file) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 556, in __load dict = loadfunc(fp) AttributeError: 'dict' object has no attribute 'append' Python information: VariableValue sys.version 2.2.2 (#1, Apr 6 2003, 18:09:02) [GCC 3.2] sys.executable /usr/local/bin/python sys.prefix /usr/local sys.exec_prefix /usr/local sys.path/usr/local sys.platformsunos5 Environment variables: Variable Value HTTP_PRAGMA no-cache PYTHONPATH /usr/local/mailman SERVER_SOFTWARE Apache/1.3.27 (Unix) SCRIPT_FILENAME /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo SERVER_ADMIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] SCRIPT_NAME /mailman/listinfo SERVER_SIGNATURE Apache/1.3.27 Server at lists.IN.gov Port 80 REQUEST_METHOD GET HTTP_HOST lists.in.gov HTTP_KEEP_ALIVE 300 SERVER_PROTOCOL HTTP/1.1 QUERY_STRING HTTP_CONNECTION keep-alive HTTP_CACHE_CONTROL no-cache REQUEST_URI /mailman/listinfo HTTP_ACCEPT text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/plain;q=0.8,video/x-mng,image/png,image/jpeg,image/gif;q=0.2,*/*;q=0.1 HTTP_ACCEPT_CHARSET ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7 HTTP_USER_AGENT Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030425 TZ US/East-Indiana SERVER_NAME lists.IN.gov REMOTE_ADDR 10.8.49.214 REMOTE_PORT 32807 HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE en-us,en;q=0.5 SERVER_PORT 80 GATEWAY_INTERFACE CGI/1.1 HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING gzip,deflate,compress;q=0.9 SERVER_ADDR 10.8.51.75 DOCUMENT_ROOT /usr/local/apache/share/htdocs Any ideas, or should I start thinking about ditching mailman? -- "I still think the odds are good that you can make a bet on what will be the odds" -- Tub Ring +--+--+--+---+ | Greg Swallow | CCNA | System Administrator | accessIndiana | +--(http://www.IN.gov/)--(888.4IN.EGOV)--+ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Can't get mailman to send e-mail
It runs and i can set up list andadminister them and when you subscribe the maillog say that is was sent, but it doesn't actually send them. I am running Sendmail. Any help would be appreciated.. Greg BranchCaldwell County Information Technology[EMAIL PROTECTED]828-757-1330Visit our Website: http://www.co.caldwell.nc.us
[Mailman-Users] Mailman isn't sending mail out
Mailman seems to be working in all aspects except it just will not send e-mail out to subscribers.My qfiles have all the messages in it i guess it just hasn't sent them. Any ideas?
[Mailman-Users] Behind a firewall help
I can get sendmail to work behind firewall, I can get mailman to work behind firewall, but not them both. It all works fine out from behind it. The part that is not happening behind the firewall is sending the messages to the list members, they are all staying in the qfiles. Any ideas, thanks
[Mailman-Users] Mailman Setup
I've just recently installed Mailman-2.0.8 with Python 1.5.2 on RedHat 6.1. The installation went great until users try to subscribe. Users can subscribe OK via the web page but no confirmation email is sent and they are not added to the list. The only email received by the user is an error message. Any ideas on what I may have not carried out during the installation. Greg -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] md5 passwords
Hi, I'm trying to locate where mailman stores the md5 password hashes for the subscribers to the list so I can use the list to authenticate other tasks (share the same password hash file). Could you tell me where it is? Thanks Greg -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Error messages users get
I have just installed Mailman and users can't subscribe to the list. I'm using RedHat 6.1, Sendmail, Apache, Python 1.5.2 and Mailman-2.0.8. Here is an extract of an error message a user received. Can anyone solve this mystery >Subject: Returned mail: User unknown >Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure) > >The original message was received at Wed, 13 Feb 2002 05:44:59 +1100 >from mail.tpgi.com.au [203.12.160.58] > >- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > (expanded from: mailman) > >- Transcript of session follows - >550 [EMAIL PROTECTED] User unknown >Reporting-MTA: dns; www >Arrival-Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 05:44:59 +1100 > >Final-Recipient: RFC822; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >X-Actual-Recipient: RFC822; lunch@www >Action: failed >Status: 5.1.1 >Last-Attempt-Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 05:45:38 +1100 -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Still having Problems
Hi I've just install mailman-2.0.8 on RedHat 6.1. It seem that users can partially subscribe, that is, connect and subscribe, receive their email in return to send confirmation, send confirmation and never receive their welcome message. Anyone with any ideas on what is happening. Regards Greg -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] More problems
When subscribers try to subscribe to the list, a confirmation message is sent but they are not added to the list, hence when they send their confirmation back, they are still not added and there is no welcome message sent out. If you go to the web page as an administrator, you can add users to the list, manually and a welcome message is sent to the new users. When a message is sent to the list, the list doesn't sent out the message to the subscribers list. Greg Lucky my hair is very short and I cannot grab hold of it otherwise I would have none left. This is a very frustrating experience. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] More problems
Yes, I ran check_perms and it reported "no problems found" The /home/mailman/logs/error are clean (empty). No problems there. On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, Paul-Catalin Oros wrote: > Just a question, did you run bin/check_perms to make sure all the permisions > on the files are fine? What do the logs say? Anything in the log/errors that > could give you a hint about what's going on? > > Paul > > On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, Greg Rees wrote: > > > > > When subscribers try to subscribe to the list, a confirmation message is sent > > but they are not added to the list, hence when they send their confirmation > > back, they are still not added and there is no welcome message sent out. > > > > If you go to the web page as an administrator, you can add users to the list, > > manually and a welcome message is sent to the new users. > > > > When a message is sent to the list, the list doesn't sent out the message to > > the subscribers list. > > > > Greg > > > > Lucky my hair is very short and I cannot grab hold of it otherwise I would have > > none left. This is a very frustrating experience. > > > > > > -- > > Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > > -- > Man: I know how to please a woman. Woman: Then please leave me alone. > > > -- > Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] More problems
> > > > Yes, I ran check_perms and it reported "no problems found" > > > > The /home/mailman/logs/error are clean (empty). No problems there. > > does your logs/subscibe show the subscribe requests? All requests are set for "PENDING" > > if not, does your mail server log show the request mail coming in to your > server and being accepted? Where are the mail server logs found. > > does logs/smtp show outbound mail successfully sent? Log/smpt show everything is completed but the logs/post show a failure Greg -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Editing HTML files
Where do I find the html files that you see when you connect to the list, not the file that mailman offers you to edit so that the appearance of the displayed page can be changed, dramatically. HTH Greg -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Help with Relay Spammers
Hi, I have just been bombarded with those dreaded relay spammers. My setup is RedHat 6.1, Sendmail with Kmail front end, and Apache. To get Mailman-2.0.8 working on my setup, I had to "enable relay control" in Sendmail so that mailman would be able to send out messages to the list. Things have been working as expected with messages sent to the list and messages going out to the members of the list. Today I had to go into Linuxconf and to the Sendmail part to "disable relay control", by doing this, all messages sent to the list are killed off because Sendmail thinks the messages are spam messages (which they really are) but not those dreaded relay spam messages that some people take enjoyment to send around. I have read most of the documentation to find no mention of this occurance, maybe I skipped over the part without knowing or maybe it is not mentioned anywhere. Does anyone know how I can get arround this problem with Sendmail or Mailman. TIA Greg -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with Relay Spammers
Thanks Jon and Ashley, I've made the changes you recommended and I'll test to see if it will work.. I know it should never come to that, but there has never been a problem until now. Thanks again Greg On Mon, 04 Mar 2002, you wrote: > Linuxconf is not an ideal tool for manipulating Sendmail You should make > sure that you are using an up-to-date version of sendmail and then you will > need to setup your sendmail so that it knows all the "local" names that are > used for you mailserver. > After that, you can setup allowed relays via the file: /etc/mail/access. If > you have problems at that point put in your ip address and the key word > ALLOW. Of course Ashley is right, it should never come to that! > > Jon Carnes > --- Original Message: Saturday 02 March 2002 02:25 am --- > > Hi, > > > > I have just been bombarded with those dreaded relay spammers. My setup is > > RedHat 6.1, Sendmail with Kmail front end, and Apache. > > > > To get Mailman-2.0.8 working on my setup, I had to "enable relay control" > > in Sendmail so that mailman would be able to send out messages to the list. > > Things have been working as expected with messages sent to the list and > > messages going out to the members of the list. > > > > Today I had to go into Linuxconf and to the Sendmail part to "disable relay > > control", by doing this, all messages sent to the list are killed off > > because Sendmail thinks the messages are spam messages (which they really > > are) but not those dreaded relay spam messages that some people take > > enjoyment to send around. > > > > I have read most of the documentation to find no mention of this occurance, > > maybe I skipped over the part without knowing or maybe it is not mentioned > > anywhere. > > > > Does anyone know how I can get arround this problem with Sendmail or > > Mailman. > > > > TIA > > > > Greg > > > > > > > > -- > > Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with Relay Spammers
Hi Ashley, Thank you for the reply. I've been doing some research on the relaying problem that I have to no avail. I have tried to verify the setup again and again but I cannot find anything wrong, except maybe the permissions, I don't know what permissions should be where. Can you point me in the right direction or shed some light on somewhere to look regarding permissions. I tend to think that we are on the right track. Thank you Greg On Mon, 04 Mar 2002, you wrote: > > > To get Mailman-2.0.8 working on my setup, I had to "enable relay control" in > > Sendmail so that mailman would be able to send out messages to the list. Things > > have been working as expected with messages sent to the list and messages > > going out to the members of the list. > > Sendmail does _NOT_ need relay enabled for Mailman to work. We'd have a big > problem on our hands if that was the case. Verify your setup again, > specially permissions. > > -- > H | "Life is the art of drawing without an eraser." - John Gardner > + > Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 > Director of Internet Operations / SysAdmin. 800.441.3873 x130 > Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave, #6 > http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. > > > > -- > Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] Strange error message
I have just reveived this error message and cannot make heads or tails of it. Can anyone tell me what is wrong - Transcript of session follows - sh: wrapper not available for sendmail programs 554 "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post test"... Service unavailable Thank you Greg -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] Getting closer.... domain name includes host + no mailman subdir in Apache's html dir
Getting closer...BUT no fat stogie. cut from the mail sent to to the new admin of "klug" which I deleted with the rmlist script after I realized the problems: You can configure your mailing list at the following web page: http://eagle.maneuveringspeed.com/mailman/admin/klug The web page for users of your mailing list is: http://eagle.maneuveringspeed.com/mailman/listinfo/klug 2 problems. Although eagle.maneuveringspeed.com resolves, I'd rather have it be www. or just the domain name of "maneuveringspeed.com". The more serious problem: There is no page to link to! in html/ I only have my park pages which you can see for yourself. Were they created someplace else? I'm not sure where to configure this, as I don't see any scripts that will configure these defaults. Did I mess up in ./configure before installing? Stock RedHat 7.2 install with Apache and postfix. thanks, Greg -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] RE: kill old cron entry?
I had tried an RPM for mailman http://msgs.securepoint.com/cgi-bin/get/mailman-users-0204/7/2.html seemed to have probs running the check_perms script, (error on line 50) so attempted a rpm -e uninstall, which would not. Like a dolt, I just deleted the /var/mailman dir - and now root gets mail every minute: - Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 17:09:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Cron Daemon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cron /usr/bin/python -S /var/mailman/cron/qrunner /usr/bin/python: can't open file '/var/mailman/cron/qrunner' - Can anyone tell me where the cron entry would be that I have to nuke? Thanks, Greg -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] RE: kill old cron entry?
nope, went with the new recomendation of /home/mailman over /var/mailman So...if I issue the command I imagine I'll need to reinstall. Which brings up a good question - what's the recommended procedure for doing this? -Original Message- From: Ashley M. Kirchner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 5:19 PM To: Greg Long Subject: Re: kill old cron entry? Greg Long wrote: > thanks - but one quick question - will that also nuke the needed > crontab for my now installed tarball of mailman? Yeap. > if so, should I just reinstall? There's a good change now that you've re-installed, you will no longer get that error. Specially if it's in the same location. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
RE: [Mailman-Users] RE: kill old cron entry?
Ashley, it's so funny you say that, I just killed it with a crontab -e because upon examination all the entries were to the "old" install in /var. Is there a script to create a new crontab or other recomendation? Got the entry in httpd.conf created, so the cgi scripts work now. -Original Message- From: Ashley M. Kirchner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 7:26 PM To: Greg Long Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] RE: kill old cron entry? Greg Long wrote: > nope, went with the new recomendation of /home/mailman over > /var/mailman In that case, instead of running 'crontab -r'. run 'crontab -e' which will bring the cron entry up in the editor vi where you can delete the offending line(s) and save the new crontab. It gets reloaded automatically. -- H | "Life is the art of drawing without an eraser." - John Gardner + Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 Director of Internet Operations / SysAdmin. 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave, #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
RE: [Mailman-Users] Mailman FAQ Wizard
That would be awesome to have a FAQ and a HOW-TO - even for basic stuff. Without formal training and working with it a lot installing and configuring 'nix software is anything but straightforward, though I will say I really like the mailman software. I created klug again, and the cgi pages look fine from a browser, with all the right goodies for the domain and email addresses - with the exception that the mail isn't going through - I get "unknown user" error. Was I to create an account? because there IS no account created with the ./newlist script, I wonder if the following section of the FAQ is applicable: - Q. What if I get "document contains no data" from the web server, or mail isn't getting delivered, or I see "Premature end of script headers" or "Mailman CGI error!!!" A. The most likely cause of this is that the GID that is compiled into the C wrappers does not match the GID that your Web server invokes CGI scripts with. Note that a similar error could occur if your mail system invokes filter programs under a GID that does not match the one compiled into the C mail wrapper. To fix this you will need to re-configure Mailman using the --with-cgi-gid and --with-mail-gid options. See the INSTALL file for details. -- if so, I don't know how to determin the CGI GID and MAIL GID other than to look in the User manager for those groups. A look just now shows no group by the name of "cgi" and the group "mail" with one member: "mail". There is probably a command-line option to show the GID for a group, but the info is not displayed in the Gnome User manager. I suppose you all would just laugh at me if I suggested a straightforward GUI installer and manager that would run in Gnome/KDE. Thanks for the help, I'm close... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of J C Lawrence Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 8:22 PM To: Norbert Bollow Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman FAQ Wizard On Wed, 1 May 2002 01:20:49 +0200 Norbert Bollow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alternatively, I could set up a separate FAQ Wizard for (less > technical) list manager questions at listowner.org ... would this be > desirable? Why not simply create a less technical section in the current FAQ? -- J C Lawrence -(*)Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. [EMAIL PROTECTED] He lived as a devil, eh? http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] Getting closer.... domain name includes host + no mailman subdir in Apache's html dir
Getting closer...BUT no fat stogie. cut from the mail sent to to the new admin of "klug" which I deleted with the rmlist script after I realized the problems: You can configure your mailing list at the following web page: http://eagle.maneuveringspeed.com/mailman/admin/klug The web page for users of your mailing list is: http://eagle.maneuveringspeed.com/mailman/listinfo/klug 2 problems. Although eagle.maneuveringspeed.com resolves, I'd rather have it be www. or just the domain name of "maneuveringspeed.com". The more serious problem: There is no page to link to! in html/ I only have my park pages which you can see for yourself. Were they created someplace else? I'm not sure where to configure this, as I don't see any scripts that will configure these defaults. Did I mess up in ./configure before installing? Stock RedHat 7.2 install with Apache and postfix. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] kill old cron entry?
I had tried an RPM for mailman http://msgs.securepoint.com/cgi-bin/get/mailman-users-0204/7/2.html seemed to have probs running the check_perms script, (error on line 50) so attempted a rpm -e uninstall, which would not. Like a dolt, I just deleted the /var/mailman dir - and now root gets mail every minute: - Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 17:09:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Cron Daemon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cron /usr/bin/python -S /var/mailman/cron/qrunner /usr/bin/python: can't open file '/var/mailman/cron/qrunner' - Can anyone tell me where the cron entry would be that I have to nuke? Thanks, Greg -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] It's working :)
Dick is correct, it's all there, albeit cryptic for those inexperienced with compiling and configuring software using configure and make. I do find myself wondering why more if this can't be automated by an installer and ready-to-run binaries, but that's just my win background - It's easier for admins to spend company money on software licenses I guess than to roll up the shirt sleeves and fight with it. Turns out my GID for the mailing was 99, I found this out by mail that bounced, the recommended script for us Postfix'ers "python -c'import os; print os.getgid()'" returned 538...not sure why, but wanted to report that to the developers. Special thanks to Dick and Ashley, Greg Long -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dan Mick Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 10:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] Mailman FAQ Wizard > exception that the mail isn't going through - I get "unknown user" > error. Was I to create an account? > > because there IS no account created with the ./newlist script, newlist instructs you to add aliases to support the new list. The section of INSTALL that talks about running newlist also discusses this. Really: follow INSTALL, step by step. If you don't understand a step, stop and understand it, by hook or crook. It's all in there, and it's all necessary. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] OS X installation
I'm trying to install Mailman on Mac OS X, and it's not working for me. For some reason, it keeps saying "no mailman user found" when I try to run configure... I've tried setting up said user in the System Preferences and in NetInfo. The user exists in the System Preferences, has a home directory, etc... but configure doesn't work. Do you have any ideas? Thanks, Greg Westin [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] Mailman with Postfix and OS X
I'm trying to set up Mailman on OS X with Postfix as my MTA, but I've had some trouble. Here are my problems, which may or may not be related: 1. The options I specified in mm_cfg.py aren't being applied, I don't think. For example, the links to send comments to the mailman-owner just say to 'mailman-owner@', with no domain name, even though it's specified in mm_cfg.py. I accidentally edited the Defaults file once, but then changed everything back and saved it again. Is that what cased my problem? When I changed the domain in the Defaults file, the mailman-owner address was displayed properly. 2. I left all my settings as sendmail, because I didn't know how to change things for Postfix. When Mailman send mail, though, it doesn't work correctly. For example, when I try to subscribe to a list, the mail Mailman tries to send is from the invalid address test- owner@.mydomain.com, which is rejected by my e-mail server. Why is that extra period there? I don't know, but it messes everything up. 3. I know there was something else, but I've forgotten it. Here's a question: can anyone tell me how to get Postfix to start automatically when I log in? The tutorial I used to set it up gave instructions to do so, but I still have to start it manually every time I restart. Thanks, Greg Westin [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman with Postfix and OS X
I think I solved my issues, and they were simple. The only problems were that 1) I had accidentally typed DEFAULT_HOME_NAME or something like that instead of DEFAULT_HOST_NAME, and 2) I hadn't re-specified MAILMAN_OWNER after redefining DEFAULT_HOST_NAME in the mm_cfg.py file. I think I'm all set now... sorry about the trouble. But if anyone can tell me any particular changes I should make to my configuration so that things work better with Postfix, please let me know. I think I did what the install FAQ recommends for Postfix, creating another aliases database in the mailman folder, etc, but other than that I don't think I've done anything Postfix-specific. Thanks, Greg On Thursday, July 11, 2002, at 12:24 AM, Greg Westin wrote: > I'm trying to set up Mailman on OS X with Postfix as my MTA, but I've > had some trouble. Here are my problems, which may or may not be > related: > > 1. The options I specified in mm_cfg.py aren't being applied, I don't > think. For example, the links to send comments to the mailman-owner > just say to 'mailman-owner@', with no domain name, even though it's > specified in mm_cfg.py. I accidentally edited the Defaults file once, > but then changed everything back and saved it again. Is that what > cased my problem? When I changed the domain in the Defaults file, the > mailman-owner address was displayed properly. > > 2. I left all my settings as sendmail, because I didn't know how to > change things for Postfix. When Mailman send mail, though, it doesn't > work correctly. For example, when I try to subscribe to a list, the > mail Mailman tries to send is from the invalid address test- > owner@.mydomain.com, which is rejected by my e-mail server. Why is > that extra period there? I don't know, but it messes everything up. > > 3. I know there was something else, but I've forgotten it. Here's a > question: can anyone tell me how to get Postfix to start automatically > when I log in? The tutorial I used to set it up gave instructions to > do so, but I still have to start it manually every time I restart. > > Thanks, > > Greg Westin > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] archives only display list e-mail
I apologize if this gets posted multiple times. I accidentally sent the message from the wrong account, one not subscribed to the list, and so it's tied up waiting for admin approval. Hopefully the admin will see this and just delete it. --- I just set up Mailman, and everything seems to be working fine, but when I look at my archives, I notice that it displays the list e-mail address next to every person's name, rather than that person's e-mail address. Is that normal? Is there any way to change that? Any help would be appreciated. Thank you, Greg Westin [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] Mailman home HTML
Am I correct in saying that, by default, accessing mydomain.com/mailman results in an error? Or did I mess something up in the installation? I was thinking about just setting the server to redirect all requests for /mailman to /mailman/listinfo, or something like that... would I run into some problems if I tried to do that? I don't know whether I'd have to set up an index.cgi in mailman's cgi folder, or if I could just set an alias in Apache or something like that. Also, I saw when administering a list that you can change the HTML for a list's home page, but how would one go about changing the HTML for other things, like the listinfo page or something? Would that be a poor idea on my part, or would it just be harmless fiddling? Thanks for contributing to this UNIX-newbie's education, Greg Westin [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] Lists show in admin but not listinfo
For some reason, my publicly-advertised lists are showing up on the admin page, but not on the listinfo page. Does anyone know why this could be? Thanks, Greg Westin [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] e-mail addresses in archives
I believe I posted a message about this before, but didn't get an answer. In my archives, no matter who the poster is, it only lists the e-mail address for the list, not for that individual. I assume that's because the reply-to address is set to the list. But is there any way to change this so that the individual's name appears, without changing the list to reply to the individual? Thanks for any help, Greg Westin [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] only mbox appearing
Are messages only saved in the archives when posted by list members? Is there a way to change this? I accidentally posted to a list from an e-mail address that's not the one I subscribed from, and I don't see the message in the archives. Thanks, Greg -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] MAILMAN- LIST
You can do that, as an admin, in the admin section. Or, users can add themselves via the form on the listinfo page. Is there another kind of form you'd want? Greg Westin [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sunday, August 4, 2002, at 11:17 AM, Steven C. Young wrote: > is it possible to have mailman add users to the mailing list via a form > on the website? -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] A long URL - 2 lines - second line is notclickable.
All four of those links work, and none break into two lines. > What happens when you send a really long link through the system? In > this case, I suspect that the line is broken before Mailman ever sees it > - it would be broken if you sent it to a standard mail client just the > same. But what you are sending is a text URL, not a link. The link the > reipient sees (that isn't working) is created by the recipient mail > client based on starting with http: and ending with whitespace. > > Here is your original URL, I've put it back on one line: > http://labtest.ca.boeing.com/~psim/NewRtPlatform/test_plate_form_notes.07_18_02.html > > Now, here it is again as a link: > http://labtest.ca.boeing.com/~psim/NewRtPlatform/test_plate_form_notes.07_18_02.html > > Unfortunately, that's behind a firewall and nobody outside The Kite > Factory will know if it worked again. Here is one that should be long > enough to break anything, based on all the URL encoding I used. First as > text: > >http://www.domainvanhorn.com/dropbox/copy%2520of%2520van%2527s%2520self%2520portrait%2520in%2520the%2520bathroom.jpg > > And now as a link: > >http://www.domainvanhorn.com/dropbox/copy%2520of%2520van%2527s%2520self%2520portrait%2520in%2520the%2520bathroom.jpg > > I won't know until this goes through the system, but I suspect that all > four will be broken onto two lines, but that the linked versions will > still work. Maybe we'll all learn somethign at that point. > > It's a universal problem. As the number of documents on a server grows, > I think we're going to have to abandon the idea of having humans read > URLs for taxonomy - it leads to URLs that break in too many places. > > Van > > Richard Barrett wrote: > >> At 09:22 19/08/2002 -0700, Wang, Mary Y wrote: >> >Hi, >> >I am using Mailman 2.0.6-1 and Sendmail-8.11.6-3. My users are >> complaining about the line wrap problem when send mailing mail to the >> mail list with a long URL. It seems line wraps text lines that are >> longer than 80 characters with no white-space. If you include a long >> URL in a email message it usually gets split onto separate lines and >> the typical email reader within BCA (exchange) marks the first part >> of the link as clickable when usually it isn't. People have to paste >> the whole link back together manually in a web browser input dialog >> to get it to work. >> > >> >First, I thought it maybe a Sendmail problem. So I tried send a mail >> via Sendmail with a long URL and it appears to be fine. The long URL >> did split into two lines, and the second line is still highlighted as >> a href link, so there was no problem. By clicking the link, the >> browser would bring up the correct information. >> > >> >However, sending an email to the mail list is a different problem. >> > >> >For example, >> >http://labtest.ca.boeing.com/~psim/NewRtPlatform/test_plate_form_notes.07_18 >> _02.html will show up with 2 lines and the second line would be ml >> and wouldn't be highlighted as part of the URL that is clickable. >> > >> >Any clue? >> > >> >Thanks for any help. We had this problem for about a year. I >> finally got a chance to look into it now. >> > >> >Mary >> >(562) 797-1545 >> >> I suspect at the back of this is what RFC2822 says and how some Mail >> Agent code/configuration is interpreting the RFC: >> >> >> 2.1.1. Line Length Limits >> >> There are two limits that this standard places on the number of >> characters in a line. Each line of characters MUST be no more than >> 998 characters, and SHOULD be no more than 78 characters, >> excluding the CRLF. >> >> ... >> >> The more conservative 78 character recommendation is to >> accommodate the many implementations of user interfaces that >> display these messages which may truncate, or disastrously wrap, >> the display of more than 78 characters per line, in spite of the >> fact that such implementations are non-conformant to the intent of >> this >> specification (and that of [RFC2821] if they actually cause >> information to be lost). Again, even though this limitation is put >> on messages, it is encumbant upon implementations which display >> messages ... >> >> >> >> Mailman doesn't appear to fool with the line breaks in email sent to >> it for redistribution. Its internal archiver also appears to behave >> sensibly when processing long line into HTML archives files by only >> word wrapping long lines on white space to a reasonable length so that >> the tagged message text displays sensibly with a web browser. So >> your long URL would survive intact transit through and archiving by >> MM. It certainly does on my MM system. >> >> Sendmail can be configured to limit line length so some MTA through >> which your mail is passing could be limiting line length though >> usually it will be to the 990 character limit. >> >> The MUA from whence the long URL originated is possible culprit. >> >> The fact is that the RFC admits the possibility of line length >> manipulat
[Mailman-Users] archiving
With all this discussion of archiving, I have to ask: What does it say about the developers' confidence in Mailman that this list isn't archived by Mailman, but by an external service? This is like when I was having trouble setting up Mailman on Mac OS X, and then discovered that Apple doesn't use Macs for its mail servers, it uses Sun computers. It seems to me that if this list is archived externally, maybe I, too, should look into that as an option. It also seems like this should be a well-documented option, perhaps one recommended in the manual and install files, if Mailman will continue to have sub-par archiving. Am I missing something important? Greg -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Suddenly - a "bug"
I just tried to add a new list, and when I went to the web interface, it didn't work. I can't figure out what has changed recently , except that I repartitioned my hard drive, so I copied the info off and then replaced it. Can anyone suggest some things I can check? I tried re-installing, which didn't seem to work, though I could have done it wrong. Nothing in my mailman log, but an entry in the apache error log shows that it couldn't write to the mailman log for some reason. It may not be a good idea for me to publicly send out all the info from my server logs, but ignorance is bliss. The most recent entry from my apache error log is below. If you have any ideas for me, please help! Greg Westin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [- Mailman Version: 2.0.13 -] [- Traceback --] Traceback (most recent call last): File "/home/mailman/scripts/driver", line 71, in run_main immediate=1) File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Logging/StampedLogger.py", line 49, in __init__ Logger.__init__(self, category, nofail, immediate) File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Logging/Logger.py", line 40, in __init__ self.__get_f() File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Logging/Logger.py", line 55, in __get_f f = self.__fp = open(self.__filename, 'a+', 1) IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/home/mailman/logs/error' [- Python Information -] sys.version= 2.2.1 (#1, Jul 9 2002, 12:10:44) [GCC 2.95.2 19991024 (release)] sys.executable = /usr/local/bin/python sys.prefix = /usr/local sys.exec_prefix= /usr/local sys.path = /usr/local sys.platform = darwin [- Environment Variables -] PYTHONPATH: /home/mailman SERVER_SOFTWARE: Apache/1.3.26 (Darwin) PHP/4.2.2 SCRIPT_FILENAME: /home/mailman/cgi-bin/admin SERVER_ADMIN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SCRIPT_NAME: /mailman/admin SERVER_SIGNATURE: Apache/1.3.26 Server at www.gregwestin.com Port 80 REQUEST_METHOD: GET HTTP_HOST: lists.gregwestin.com SERVER_PROTOCOL: HTTP/1.1 QUERY_STRING: REQUEST_URI: /mailman/admin HTTP_ACCEPT: */* HTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1) HTTP_CONNECTION: Keep-Alive SERVER_NAME: www.gregwestin.com REMOTE_ADDR: 155.41.10.1 REMOTE_PORT: 36444 HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE: en-us __CF_USER_TEXT_ENCODING: 0x46:0:0 SERVER_PORT: 80 GATEWAY_INTERFACE: CGI/1.1 HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING: gzip, deflate SERVER_ADDR: 140.247.133.60 DOCUMENT_ROOT: /Library/WebServer/Documents -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] upgrading to 2.1b3
While trying ot fix this problem of Mailman not working, I decided to upgrade to 2.1b3. I am, however, having some trouble. I'm not sure why, but I've had a number of different problems. This is the most current. I copied all my old files into the new home directory, chowned and chgrped them all to mailman except the one file I saw that was different, scripts/paths.pyc, and then configured the install. That worked fine, with the only message being that Chinese wasn't supported, or something like that. However, when I tried to make install, I got the following: --- Compiling /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/versions.py ... Traceback (most recent call last): File "bin/update", line 46, in ? from Mailman import Utils File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Utils.py", line 46, in ? from Mailman import Site ImportError: cannot import name Site make: *** [update] Error 1 --- Can anyone help me with this? Someone suggested for my earlier question that I should run check_perms... it didn't work. Thanks, Greg -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] bug bite, again
I managed to get Mailman 2.1b3 installed, by removing everything except for my lists and archives folders (and maybe one or two other things - but I definitely had to remove Mailman), then installing the new version. However, I'm still getting the 'bug' problem. I'm pasting the new error page below. I can't figure out how to send it as HTML, so I'll just cut and paste the text. I checked check_perms, and it says there're no problems. What else could this be? Thank you, Greg Westin [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Bug in Mailman version 2.1b3 We're sorry, we hit a bug! If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a copy of this page to the webmaster for this site with a description of what happened. Thanks! Traceback: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver", line 68, in run_main immediate=1) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Logging/StampedLogger.py", line 52, in __init__ Logger.__init__(self, category, nofail, immediate) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Logging/Logger.py", line 41, in __init__ self.__get_f() File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Logging/Logger.py", line 56, in __get_f f = self.__fp = open(self.__filename, 'a+', 1) IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/usr/local/mailman/logs/error' Python information: Variable Value sys.version 2.2.1 (#1, Jul 9 2002, 12:10:44) [GCC 2.95.2 19991024 (release)] sys.executable /usr/local/bin/python sys.prefix /usr/local sys.exec_prefix /usr/local sys.path /usr/local sys.platform darwin Environment variables: Variable Value PYTHONPATH /usr/local/mailman SERVER_SOFTWARE Apache/1.3.26 (Darwin) PHP/4.2.2 SCRIPT_FILENAME /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo SERVER_ADMIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] SCRIPT_NAME /mailman/listinfo SERVER_SIGNATURE Apache/1.3.26 Server at www.gregwestin.com Port 80 REQUEST_METHOD GET HTTP_HOST lists.gregwestin.com HTTP_KEEP_ALIVE 300 SERVER_PROTOCOL HTTP/1.1 QUERY_STRING REQUEST_URI /mailman/listinfo HTTP_ACCEPT text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/plain;q=0.8,video/x-mng,image/png,image/jpeg,image/gif;q=0.2,text/css,*/*;q=0.1 HTTP_USER_AGENT Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X; en-US; rv:1.0.0) Gecko/20020724 HTTP_CONNECTION keep-alive SERVER_NAME www.gregwestin.com REMOTE_ADDR 140.247.133.60 REMOTE_PORT 49454 HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE en-us, en;q=0.50 __CF_USER_TEXT_ENCODING 0x46:0:0 SERVER_PORT 80 GATEWAY_INTERFACE CGI/1.1 HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING gzip, deflate, compress;q=0.9 SERVER_ADDR 140.247.133.60 DOCUMENT_ROOT /Library/WebServer/Documents -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] bug fixed
The 'bug' was fixed by chmod'ing all my log files to 660. Is this appropriate, or does this mean I don't have mailman set up correctly? Thanks, Greg -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Mailman not connecting to MTA?
After upgrading to 2.1b3, it seems that there's some problem with the communication between Mailman and Postfix. If I try sending an e-mail to an admin of one of the lists, and watch the Postfix log, it records the fact that the e-mail has been received and sent to the mail/mailman script, but the script never sends an e-mail. I think I set everything up according to README.Postfix. Does anyone know what the problem might be? I also noticed that for some strange reason the defaults for DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST and DEFAULT_URL_HOST were set to my last name, which is also a username on my computer. I don't know why this would be, but I noticed it when the membership management page wouldn't work, because the links all referenced http://westin/mailman/... I hope I didn't mess up this installation. Thanks, Greg Westin [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Can't create lists from web interface
I resolved the issue of e-mail not being sent to list admins by starting mailmanctl, which I didn't know about. In trying to create a test list to make sure everything is working now, though, I discovered that the web interface for creating new lists doesn't work. I created a list earlier from the command line, which worked, but it looks like something called by the web interface is running as the cgi user, rather than mailman, and so can't create archives. Perhaps my permissions are incorrect? Again, check_perms doesn't report anything wrong, but I had a permissions problem before that it didn't report, too. I would think the problem is that somehow these scripts should be running as mailman rather than under the cgi gid, or they won't create list files with owner and group mailman. Please help if you have any ideas. Sincerely, Greg Westin [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Bug in Mailman version 2.1b3 We're sorry, we hit a bug! If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a copy of this page to the webmaster for this site with a description of what happened. Thanks! Traceback: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver", line 82, in run_main main() File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/create.py", line 55, in main process_request(doc, cgidata) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/create.py", line 176, in process_request mlist.Create(listname, owner, pw, langs) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 422, in Create self.InitVars(name, admin, crypted_password) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 351, in InitVars baseclass.InitVars(self) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 92, in InitVars os.mkdir(self.archive_dir()+'.mbox', 02775) OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/usr/local/mailman/archives/private/test.mbox' Python information: Variable Value sys.version 2.2.1 (#1, Jul 9 2002, 12:10:44) [GCC 2.95.2 19991024 (release)] sys.executable /usr/local/bin/python sys.prefix /usr/local sys.exec_prefix /usr/local sys.path /usr/local sys.platform darwin Environment variables: Variable Value HTTP_ACCEPT image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg, application/vnd.ms-excel, application/vnd.ms-powerpoint, application/msword, */* CONTENT_TYPE application/x-www-form-urlencoded HTTP_REFERER http://lists.gregwestin.com/mailman/create SERVER_SOFTWARE Apache/1.3.26 (Darwin) PHP/4.2.2 PYTHONPATH /usr/local/mailman SCRIPT_FILENAME /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/create SERVER_ADMIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] SCRIPT_NAME /mailman/create SERVER_SIGNATURE Apache/1.3.26 Server at lists.gregwestin.com Port 80 REQUEST_METHOD POST HTTP_HOST lists.gregwestin.com SERVER_PROTOCOL HTTP/1.1 QUERY_STRING HTTP_CACHE_CONTROL no-cache REQUEST_URI /mailman/create CONTENT_LENGTH 144 HTTP_USER_AGENT Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1) HTTP_CONNECTION Keep-Alive SERVER_NAME lists.gregwestin.com REMOTE_ADDR 155.41.10.1 REMOTE_PORT 18800 HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE en-us __CF_USER_TEXT_ENCODING 0x46:0:0 SERVER_PORT 80 GATEWAY_INTERFACE CGI/1.1 HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING gzip, deflate SERVER_ADDR 140.247.133.60 DOCUMENT_ROOT /Library/WebServer/Documents -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Resetting list admin password if list admin forgot password
Dear David, The site admin can always change the passwords for any given list using the site admin password. If you don't know what this is, read the documentation, or just run the 'bin/mmsitepass' script in the mailman directory. This password allows you to access any of the lists on the site, and thus you can reset any given password. If you forget the site admin password, you can always just re-run mmsitepass. As for your comments about moderators, that functionality is on its way. It is already available in Mailman 2.1, but that version is still in beta and not recommended for production environments. Hope this helped, Greg Westin [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Hi, > > Is there an easy way to overide a list admin password and reset it to a > default password if the admin forgets the password? Changing the > password by finding the password within the program scripts would be > quite a bother. > > Would be nice if mailman has admin/moderator feature like in forums > where moderator has most of the important features of admin but admin is > the top guy. So admin has final control over things. > > We want to give users admin access but need to be able to access admin > functions in case user forgets password. Like resetting password in > Linux. Any help is appreciated. > > David > > _ > IQSeek - The Smart Way to Search > > _ > Promote your group and strengthen ties to your members with > [EMAIL PROTECTED] by Everyone.net http://www.everyone.net/?btn=tag > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] how to mass unsubscribe members
Dear David, This feature is on its way... it is available in the 2.1 betas, but these are not recommended for production environments. Greg Westin [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Hi, > > I know there is a mass subscribe option in membership management to > subscribe people. Is there also a way to mass unsubscribe these people? > > David > > _ > IQSeek - The Smart Way to Search > > _ > Promote your group and strengthen ties to your members with > [EMAIL PROTECTED] by Everyone.net http://www.everyone.net/?btn=tag > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] web server user conflict
I'd noticed that when I create a list from the web, the directory for that list is owned by 'www' rather than mailman... I didn't check the stuff inside it at the time, but I have a feeling the files you refer to were probably also owned by www. I don't remember any cron job problems, but then again I deleted those lists pretty quickly, because they were just my attempts to experiment with virtual domains. Greg Westin [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Hi folks, > > I sense that this may be a FAQ, but I can't find a clear source of > information about it. > > I am running mailman with Postfix and Apache. Everything seems to be > okay. I have created a user and group called "mailman" and changed the > ownership of everything in the main mailman director > (/usr/local/mailman) to mailman:mailman. > > However, whenever I use the web-based admin tools, the ownership of > files: > > -rw-rw 1 mailman mailman 4094 Aug 26 14:29 config.db > -rw-rw 1 mailman mailman 4094 Aug 26 14:29 config.db.last > > changes to: > > -rw-rw 1 www mailman 4094 Aug 26 14:29 config.db > -rw-rw 1 www mailman 4094 Aug 26 14:29 config.db.last > > and I then get permission errors from the cron job "qrunner" until I > change permissions back to mailman:mailman. > > I suspect that something needed to be done with the -gid or -uid > configure options, but the INSTALL notes weren't clear enough for me. > > Could anyone help? Thanks, > > michael geary > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] web server user conflict
No, I don't have any idea what the problem was, unfortunately. Let me know if you find out, please. Greg -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregwestin.com Contact info: http://www.gregwestin.com/contact.php > So, you're saying that this has happened to you as well? Did you find > the fix? -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem
Check out this link: http://www.postfix.org/faq.html#unknown_virtual_loop I'm guessing you don't have Postfix set up properly to receive mail for lists.dstiny.net. Greg -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregwestin.com Contact info: http://www.gregwestin.com/contact.php > Hi, > > I installed mailman some hours ago, it seems to work but I have a > problem with Postfix and I have this error : > "<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: mail for lists.dstiny.net loops back to > myself" > > I don't find any solution... Can you help me ? > > I run : > Linux dstiny.net 2.4.18 #1 Wed Jul 17 18:28:39 CEST 2002 i686 unknown > mailman 2.0.13 > > thanks you very much in advance for you answer... > > MaX > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] launching mailmanctl
I'm using Mailman 2.1 on OS X, and wrote a script to start mailmanctl on startup, but it doesn't seem to be working. I have to manually start it with the -s flag later... what does mailmanctl require to start? Maybe I need to have it run at the end of the startup process? Thanks, Greg -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregwestin.com Contact info: http://www.gregwestin.com/contact.php -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Postfix alias files
# STANZA START: test # CREATED: Mon Sep 23 07:49:27 2002 test: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post test" test-admin: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman admin test" test-bounces: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces test" . . . # STANZA END: test > Question, what are the alias files configured like for POSTFIX when > using Mailman, are they the same syntax as Sendmail? > Could someone give me an example? > > -- > # > Kory Wheatley > Academic Computing Analyst Sr. > Phone 282-3874 > # > Everything must point to him. > > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregwestin.com Contact info: http://www.gregwestin.com/contact.php -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Real Names
There is in 2.1b3. You can specify it either when mass subscribing names, or later with the membership interface. Greg On Wednesday, September 25, 2002, at 04:56 AM, Ian Holder wrote: > > Hi, > > Is there anyway to specify the real names of subscribed e-mail users? > > ie: When you access a list of subscribers it just shows "john at > doe.com", > is there anyway to specify the subscribers real name next to the e-mail > address? > > Thanks. > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregwestin.com Contact info: http://www.gregwestin.com/contact.php -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Apache redirects
Is there a way to use Apache Rewrite directives to direct requests for lists.domain1.com to lists.domain1.com/mailman/listinfo? I have a couple of virtual domains, and want all of their list traffic to run off the same Mailman installation. If someone requests www.domain1.com, they should obviously get an appropriate home page. But if they ask for lists.domain1.com, probably what they really want is lists.domain1.com/mailman/listinfo. And if they ask for lists.domain2.com, they certainly don't want the home page for domain1, they want lists.domain2.com/mailman/listinfo. I set up very basic Rewrite directives to do things like rewrite all requests for undefined subdomains to www.domain.com, but I'm not confident that I'd know how to do this. Surely, someone else has had this problem? What do you do for users that request lists.yourdomain.com/ without appending anything like /mailman/listinfo? Just let them get an error, or the homepage? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Greg -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregwestin.com Contact info: http://www.gregwestin.com/contact.php -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] MM & Mac OS X ?
The only real stumbling block I found to setting up Mailman with Postfix on OS X client was making sure to run the install as the mailman user. I don't know anything about OS X Server's configuration, nor about using Mailman with sendmail or qmail or anything. I am going to sit down with a clean system this week, though, and figure out just what you need to do to install Mailman properly on OS X (Client), and I will be posting the instructions online. I will post the link to this mailing list when I finish. Greg On Sunday, September 29, 2002, at 08:23 PM, Brent Rossow wrote: > I searched the archives for the past several months and found very > little > mention of anyone running Mailman on Mac OS X. > [...] > Long story short, I'm running Mac OSXS 10.2 on a development machine. > [...] > If anyone has successfully installed MM on Mac OS X, I'd love to get > some > pointers. Majordomo is working adequately, but I'd like my listserv > package > to be more than just "adequate." Any help is greatly appreciated! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregwestin.com Contact info: http://www.gregwestin.com/contact.php -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] customizing welcome messages list by list?
Is there a way to allow list administrators to customize the welcome message sent out to new subscribers, or does this have to be done on a site-wide basis? Thanks, Greg -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregwestin.com Contact info: http://www.gregwestin.com/contact.php -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] customizing welcome messages list by list?
So you're saying that there isn't any way to modify it on a list by list basis? Thanks. Greg > Hello Greg Westin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > > I am running mailman 2.0.13 on Debian testing. > In my case, just modify /etc/mailman/subscribeack.txt. > > > > On Thu, 3 Oct 2002 00:12:36 -0400 > Greg Westin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Is there a way to allow list administrators to customize the welcome >> message sent out to new subscribers, or does this have to be done on a >> site-wide basis? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Greg >> -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregwestin.com Contact info: http://www.gregwestin.com/contact.php -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Creating unique welcome messages.
I posted about this, as well, except not the HTML e-mail part. It looks like the answer is no, because you can only customize the message the each list adds to the top of the welcome e-mail, or change the e-mail site-wide. I'd guess that you could modify the welcome e-mail template to make it HTML mail, and then simply have the customized portion at the top of each e-mail, but I'm not sure there'd be a heck of a lot of a point to doing that. Greg --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregwestin.com/ Contact info: http://www.gregwestin.com/contact.php On Mon, 7 Oct 2002, Angel Gabriel wrote: > I posted a similar question last week, and I was given a response, but I > soon realised that that wasn't what I wanted to do. I would like to have > tailored HTML welcome messages, on a per list basis. My subscribees *does > that worrd actually exist!?* all use HTML based email readers, or web based > email accounts, *actually nearly 80% use hotmail, the rest, a split between > yahoo, and work email*. It would be nice if I could have a tailored HTML > message for every list. Is this possible? > > *** > Not everyone is touched by an Angel..and those that are, never forget > the experience. > *** > If you want guest list for bare club > nights.http://raw-talent.hopto.org/mailman/clubnights > *** > Can you sing, dance, MC, DJ, do you have talent?Send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > *** > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.394 / Virus Database: 224 - Release Date: 10/3/02 > > -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: mass subscribing users WITH real names
I believe Mailman will accept a number of different conventions for entering real names, but it makes no distinction between 'first' and 'last' names. For example: Will-Main <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Main, Will ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) "Will Main" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To quote a message from Barry, found by searching the archives of this list, --- Actually, any format recognized by email.Utils.parseaddr() is acceptable: http://www.python.org/doc/current/lib/module-email.Utils.html so Anne Person <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Brian D. Ude" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- I hope that answers your question. Greg On Wednesday, October 9, 2002, at 03:46 AM, Will-Maine wrote: > Greg Westin- > What is the format of the REAL NAME parameter when you mass > subscribe users? I don't see any description in the > manuals. Appreciate any guidance you can provide. > > yahoogroups uses "user@domain First LastName" as the input > format for mass subscriptions. What about mailman? > -will > > > Wed, 25 Sep 2002 07:15:38 -0400 > > Previous message: [Mailman-Users] Real Names > Next message: [Mailman-Users] OverflowError: mktime > argument out of range > Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ > author ] > > > > There is in 2.1b3. You can specify it either when mass > subscribing > names, or later with the membership interface. > > Greg > > On Wednesday, September 25, 2002, at 04:56 AM, Ian Holder > wrote: > >> >> Hi, >> >> Is there anyway to specify the real names of subscribed > e-mail users? >> >> ie: When you access a list of subscribers it just shows > "john at >> doe.com", >> is there anyway to specify the subscribers real name next > to the e-mail >> address? >> >> Thanks. >> >> > -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] how to remove a list with spaces
Dear Paul, I don't know if this would work or not, but have you tried something like: rmlist -a list\ name\ with\ spaces ? Maybe that would work. Greg --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregwestin.com/ Contact info: http://www.gregwestin.com/contact.php On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, Paul Kiely wrote: > i'm running mailman 2.0.11 on solaris. > > how do i remove a list with spaces in the name? i > tried enclosing the list in both single and double > quotes (which was suggested in the mailman-users > archive) but no luck. > > can i just cd into /home/mailman/lists and just rm the > list directory manually? > > any help is appreciated. > > greate software, by the way... > > -paul > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More > http://faith.yahoo.com > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] changing the to: field
The To: field has the sender's address in it? Huh? It should have the list address in it. If you mean, is there a way to have each subscriber's address appear in the To: field, rather than the list address, the answer, I believe, is no. This is because Mailman doesn't send the messages one by one, but in batches. Greg --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregwestin.com/ Contact info: http://www.gregwestin.com/contact.php On Thu, 10 Oct 2002, Davin Dahlgren wrote: > Is there a way to change the email address in the to: field to reflect > the recipient's address rather than the sender's address? > > > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Spamassassin and Mailman - like this?
I *BELEIVE* I have it, but I prefer not to test it by spamming the list unless neccessary. In the Privacy Options section, Form box "Hold posts with header value matching a specified regexp." I added two lines to the default so that it now contains (between the "---" lines): -- # Lines that *start* with a '#' are comments. to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] message-id: relay.comanche.denmark.eu from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] from: .*@uplinkpro.com subject: *SPAM* from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The last from: address is one I allow to collect spam. The previous line is the one I am concerned about. My Spamassassin installation tags spam with the subject *SPAM* I would like Mailman to hold messages containing this for approval by the admin (me). Does this sound like I set it up OK? Thanks, Greg Klamath Linux-Unix Group (KLUG) -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
RE: [Mailman-Users] Spamassassin and Mailman - like this?
I used BOTH, actually :) and I had to learn the syntax for a regular expression...indeed preceeding the asterisks with a backslash: X-Spam-Status: Yes Subject: \*\*\*\*\*SPAM\*\*\*\*\* -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of pietro Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 6:06 PM To: Jon Carnes Cc: Greg Long; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Spamassassin and Mailman - like this? Jon Carnes escreveu: > I'm wondering if you need to front-end each of those *'s with a \ > > Alternately, you could modify Spam Assassin to use a different > character. Spam Assassin also adds 'X-Spam-Status: yes' to the message header. you can you this regexp to block spam to your list. pietro. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] mbox files with leading blank line
My usual mode of interaction with Mailman is via the command-line -- this web stuff is just too newfangled. Thus, whenever I want to look in a list's archive, I generally run "mutt -f" on the archive mbox file. I have noticed that many Mailman mbox archives are just a tad bogus: ie. they start with a blank line rather than a "From " line, eg. $ head -2 archives/private/microscope-list.mbox/microscope-list.mbox >From microscope-list-admin Thu Jan 28 10:11:07 1999 Naturally, mutt complains that this is not a valid mbox file. Is this an old bug that was fixed long ago, and does not affect new lists? Or can this still happen with the current Mailman? (I'm in the process of switching from 2.0.12 to 2.1b3+.) My usual workaround is to look over both shoulders to make sure no one's watching, cross my fingers and hope that no posts come in in the next few seconds, and manually remove the offending blank line with a text editor. Is there a better way? Thanks -- Greg -- Greg Ward - software developer[EMAIL PROTECTED] MEMS Exchangehttp://www.mems-exchange.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] logging mysteriously stopped
I have been running mailman for about 8 months now. I run the standard Red Hat 7.2 RPM version (2.0.13-1) if that matters. Everything seems to be working well, except for one thing: on June 20, the logging mysteriously stopped. All the files in /var/mailman/logs have not been written to since then. I have run the check_perms -f script, but it didn't help (the log files were OK anyway), I'm still not getting any log entries from the mailman system. Aside from no logging, everything else seems to be working. Does anyone have any idea where I might look to see what is causing this problem? Thanks, --Greg -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] logging mysteriously stopped
On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 11:30, Jon Carnes wrote: > Check the volume size (amount of space available on the log volume), and > check the permissions on the log files and the log directory. I checked all those things before I came to the list. > > Also, it may be possible that the logs are being written elsewhere: > locate vette Bingo! The old log files were in /var/mailman/logs, but the current logs are being kept in /var/log/mailman. I have installed new mailman RPMS to fix security problems a couple of times, but it never occurred to me that Red Hat would have decided to move the log location. Thanks for the hint. --Greg -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] qrunner dying problem
I asked this question a while back, but didn't receive an answer:
I'm running Mailman 2.1b on OS X with Postfix, and have tried to set
things up so that Mailman starts automatically when I boot up (see the
attached text files, if attachments are allowed on mailman-users). I've
noticed, however, that Mailman doesn't seem to start up automatically when
I reboot, and sometimes the qrunners will just stop working. When either
of these things happens, my mailing lists can be down for hours without my
knowing it, because the mail is received and sent to Mailman just fine, it
just never gets sent out.
I didn't know what to do about this, so I used the following crude method.
I simply added a root cron job that runs every hour that calls the startup
item I attached (/Library/StartupItems/Mailman/Mailman). This keeps the
system from being down for more than an hour, but is obviously not a good
solution, and it generates an error message every hour telling me that the
qrunners are fine.
What could be going wrong here? I saw something that described a similar
problem and advised running check_perms, but I just ran it and the only
problems were with directory permissions on my private archives (I don't
know why this is happening, either, but they show up with incorrect
permissions).
Thanks in advance for any help you can provide,
Greg Westin
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{
Description = "Mailman List Server";
Provides = ("Mailman");
Requires = ("Disks","Network");
OrderPreference= "None";
Messages =
{
start = "Starting Mailman qrunners";
stop = "Stopping Mailman qrunners";
};
}
#!/bin/sh
. /etc/rc.common
##
# Start Mailman mail list server
##
if [ "${MAILMAN:=-NO-}" = "-YES-" ]; then
ConsoleMessage "Starting Mailman"
/usr/local/mailman/bin/mailmanctl start
fi
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[Mailman-Users] Changes log available?
I'm trying to find a list of the changes that have been made between two versions of Mailman.. We upgraded our current version of Mailman to the 2.0 Final release and now need to justify the upgrade to our client (??!!?!) so I was hoping there was a list of the patches that were implemented in the newer version. Thanks, Greg -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Question
At 10:10 PM 1/22/2001 +0100, explained Klaus Müller, >Is there any chance for the administrator, to define a list of email >adresses to start with? This means, without the people having to subscribe. > >Thank you, >Klaus Mueller Absolutely. As per the add_members help file: Add members to a list from the command line. Usage: add_members [-n ] [-d ] [-c ] [-w ] [-h] listname Where: --non-digest-members-file -n A file containing addresses of the members to be added, one address per line. This list of people become non-digest members. If is `-', read addresses from stdin. --digest-members-file -d Similar to above, but these people become digest members. --changes-msg= -c set whether or not to send the list members the `there's going to be big changes to your list' message. defaults to no. --welcome-msg= -w set whether or not to send the list members a welcome message, overriding whatever the list's `send_welcome_msg' setting is. --help -h Print this help message and exit. listname The name of the Mailman list you are adding members to. It must already exist. You must supply at least one of -n and -d options. At most one of the files can be `-'. -- Greg Gears [EMAIL PROTECTED] Never anthropomorphize computers. They hate that. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] AttributeError: UnixMailbox
Hi, I'm having difficulty installing mailman (2.01) (python 2.0) on MacOS X PB. The configure, permissions, compilation, etc. seems to be fine but the "make install" finally terminates with the following: (also, any invocation of scripts like "newlist" terminate with the same): . . . Compiling /home/mailman/Mailman/pythonlib/nntplib.py ... Compiling /home/mailman/Mailman/pythonlib/rfc822.py ... Compiling /home/mailman/Mailman/pythonlib/smtplib.py ... Compiling /home/mailman/Mailman/pythonlib/tempfile.py ... Compiling /home/mailman/Mailman/versions.py ... Traceback (most recent call last): File "bin/update", line 32, in ? from Mailman import MailList File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 45, in ? from Mailman.Archiver import Archiver File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/__init__.py", line 17, in ? from Archiver import * File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 33, in ? from Mailman import Mailbox File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Mailbox.py", line 23, in ? import mailbox File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Mailbox.py", line 27, in ? class Mailbox(mailbox.UnixMailbox): AttributeError: UnixMailbox I've searched the net but can't seem to find what is happening. The files mailbox.py and mailbox.pyc are installed in /usr/local/lib/python2.0. Does anyone have any ideas on what will fix this? Thanks so much, Greg -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Syntax error while trying to install Mailman..
I have been trying to get mailman installed on my system for some time now and this error seems to be the last stumbling block.. -- Traceback (innermost last): File "bin/update", line 32, in ? from Mailman import MailList File "/usr/home/sitename/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 822 raise ^ SyntaxError: invalid syntax -- Here is the configure command I run right before trying a 'make install'. ./configure --prefix=/usr/home/sitename/usr/local/mailman --with-python=/usr /home/sitename/usr/local/python/bin/python --with-username=username --with-g roupname=groupname --with-cgi-gid=100 --with-mail-gid=100 and here is my system configuration: BSD python 1.6 Any ideas? Thanks, Greg -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem GLIBC_2.2
On 10 September 2001, Hernán Muñoz said: > I'am trying install the mailman under linux 2.4 - 2.2 , RedHat . and I get > the follow error message . . > > > File "bin/update", line 32, in ? > from Mailman import MailList >File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 30, in ? > import socket > ImportError: symbol __sysconf, version GLIBC_2.2 not defined in file > libc.so.6 with link time reference You forgot to state the basics: What version of Python? What version of Mailman? What compiler? What version of gcc? Did you compile Python yourself? Did you compile Mailman yourself? Were they compiled on the same system as you're running them on with *no* changes to the system? If you answered "no" to any of those last three questions, you should build Mailman yourself *on the system where you're going to run it. If that doesn't work, build your own Python and then build Mailman. Greg -- Greg Ward - software developer[EMAIL PROTECTED] MEMS Exchangehttp://www.mems-exchange.org -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] How to change defaults...
On 17 September 2001, Joao Borsoi Soares said: > I'm new in mailman and python. Can someone help me on how to compile a > .py to a .pyc? I made changes in the Defaults.py. Usually, do nothing. The next time Python imports the .py file, it automatically recompiles it. Note that the user running Python must be able to write to the directory containing the code. If this is a CGI process, then it's quite possible (highly desirable even) that the user will not be able to write the .pyc file. In that case, Python will always have to re-parse the .py file, slowing things down a bit. In that case you can use the compileall module/script supplied with Python. If Python is in /usr/local: /usr/local/bin/python /usr/local/lib/python2.1/compileall.py ~mailman/Mailman ...or something like that. This is from memory, your mileage may vary. RTFM: "pydoc compileall". Greg -- Greg Ward - software developer[EMAIL PROTECTED] MEMS Exchangehttp://www.mems-exchange.org -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] post failures !
On 18 September 2001, li.st said: > hi there! > > I'm still looking for a solution for the following strange error: > > any idear, why all posts from test-request@localhost to an > external adress fail, while posts from external adresses or from > test-request@localhost to localhost adresses succeed? You haven't mentioned which MTA you're using, or given any excerpts from its log. You haven't demonstrated a manual replication of *exactly* what Exim does when it sends a message. (Ie. connect to localhost:25 and submit a list message with multiple recipients.) My guess is that doing so will reveal why your MTA is rejecting these messages. I don't think you mentioned which OS you're running. You may have mentioned your Mailman and Python versions, but I don't remember. If people haven't answered, it's probably because you haven't given enough information. Greg -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Canned moderation responses?
Just wondering if Mailman supports any sort of "canned" moderation responses. I don't see anything in the admin interface, so I'm doubtful. I'm thinking of a pop-up menu that lets you select from one of, eg.: * Please post plain text, not HTML * Please use a meaningful subject line * Please learn to use a library; don't ask the list to do your homework/thesis for you Obviously these would have to be customized per-list, and there should still be room for custom responses. If it's not already lurking in there, has anyone thought of adding such a feature? Greg -- Greg Ward - software developer[EMAIL PROTECTED] MEMS Exchangehttp://www.mems-exchange.org -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] quick question
On 19 September 2001, Kathy Fischer said: > Can anyone tell me if it is possible to change the name of a mailman > mailing list? This is apparently a FAQ, but it's not in the actual FAQ document. > We have a few mail lists, that the names need to be changed on. We want > to keep the subscriptions the same though. Can I just change the name > on the list, and update our alias file to reflect the changes? Or, is > it more involved, or possibly not possible? It is indeed more involved, *if* you want to do it right. Roll up your sleeves, make yourself a nice big cup of coffee, and see http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2001-August/013459.html for the extremely gory details. Greg -- Greg Ward - software developer[EMAIL PROTECTED] MEMS Exchangehttp://www.mems-exchange.org -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
