[Mailman-Users] Problems with mailman installation

2023-11-08 Thread Nils
I can't get mailman version (1:2.1.26-1ubuntu0.6) to run on an ubuntu 
18.04 installation with apache2 running in chroot. I've done the same 
thing before, a long time ago and it worked perfectly back then.


chroot directory is /home/www
(I admit that it's strange to put it there, but the provided setup only 
has huge /home partition and small /)


vhost configuration:


    ServerName lists.DOMAIN.TLD

    ServerAdmin webad...@domain.tld

    
    AssignUserID www-data www-data
    

    DocumentRoot /home/lists/httpdocs/site/
    
    AllowOverride None
    Require all granted
    
    
    Options Indexes FollowSymLinks
    AllowOverride None
    Require all granted
    
    
    AllowOverride all
    Options +ExecCGI -MultiViews +SymLinksIfOwnerMatch
    Require all granted
    

    # ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/mailman/ /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/

    Alias /pipermail/ /var/lib/mailman/archives/public/
    Alias /images/mailman/ /usr/share/images/mailman/
    ScriptAlias /admin /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/admin
    ScriptAlias /admindb /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/admindb
    ScriptAlias /confirm /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/confirm
    ScriptAlias /create /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/create
    ScriptAlias /edithtml /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/edithtml
    ScriptAlias /listinfo /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo
    ScriptAlias /options /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/options
    ScriptAlias /private /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/private
    ScriptAlias /rmlist /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/rmlist
    ScriptAlias /roster /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/roster
    ScriptAlias /subscribe /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/subscribe
    ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/

    RedirectMatch ^/[/]*$ http://lists.DOMAIN.TLD/listinfo/

    ErrorLog /home/www/home/lists/logs/error.log
    CustomLog /home/www/home/lists/logs/access.log combined

    Include /etc/letsencrypt/options-ssl-apache.conf
    SSLCertificateFile 
/etc/letsencrypt/live/lists.DOMAIN.TLD/fullchain.pem
    SSLCertificateKeyFile 
/etc/letsencrypt/live/lists.DOMAIN.TLD/privkey.pem

    Include /etc/letsencrypt/options-ssl-apache.conf


Here is the significant part of the fstab file that provides the 
necessary directories in the chroot environment:


/etc/mailman /home/www/etc/mailman   none    
defaults,bind,ro
/usr/lib/mailman /home/www/usr/lib/mailman   none    
defaults,bind,ro
/usr/share/mailman /home/www/usr/share/mailman none    
defaults,bind,ro
/usr/share/images/mailman /home/www/usr/share/images/mailman  
none    defaults,bind,ro
/var/lib/mailman /home/www/var/lib/mailman   none    
defaults,bind
/var/log/mailman /home/www/var/log/mailman   none    
defaults,bind
/var/lock/mailman /home/www/var/lock/mailman  none    
defaults,bind


Result is:


 Mailman CGI error!!!

The Mailman CGI wrapper encountered a fatal error. This entry is being 
stored in your syslog:


No such file or directory


I have checked that all script files are accessible. There is no related 
entry in either the syslog, the apache log files or the mailman log 
files. I am not able to find more details about this error.


Any suggestions are welcome. Please ask for more detailed information.

Kind regards,
Nils
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[Mailman-Users] mailman3-web is broken after deleting site "example.com"

2023-11-08 Thread Nils
Because I'm having trouble with setting up mailman2, I'm currently 
testing mailman3. After configuring the real domain names and deleting 
the site "example.com", nothing is working in the web frontend any more. 
Whatever I try to access I just get the same server error:


"An error occurred while processing your request."

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File 
"/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/core/handlers/exception.py", line 
34, in inner

    response = get_response(request)
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/core/handlers/base.py", 
line 115, in _get_response

    response = self.process_exception_by_middleware(e, request)
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/core/handlers/base.py", 
line 113, in _get_response

    response = wrapped_callback(request, *callback_args, **callback_kwargs)
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/hyperkitty/views/index.py", line 
99, in index

    return render(request, "hyperkitty/index.html", context)
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/shortcuts.py", line 36, 
in render
    content = loader.render_to_string(template_name, context, request, 
using=using)
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/template/loader.py", line 
62, in render_to_string

    return template.render(context, request)
  File 
"/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/template/backends/django.py", 
line 61, in render

    return self.template.render(context)
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/template/base.py", line 
169, in render

    with context.bind_template(self):
  File "/usr/lib/python3.8/contextlib.py", line 113, in __enter__
    return next(self.gen)
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/template/context.py", 
line 246, in bind_template

    updates.update(processor(self.request))
  File 
"/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django_mailman3/context_processors.py", 
line 32, in common

    context["site_name"] = get_current_site(request).name
  File 
"/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/contrib/sites/shortcuts.py", line 
13, in get_current_site

    return Site.objects.get_current(request)
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/contrib/sites/models.py", 
line 58, in get_current

    return self._get_site_by_id(site_id)
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/contrib/sites/models.py", 
line 30, in _get_site_by_id

    site = self.get(pk=site_id)
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/db/models/manager.py", 
line 82, in manager_method

    return getattr(self.get_queryset(), name)(*args, **kwargs)
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/django/db/models/query.py", line 
406, in get

    raise self.model.DoesNotExist(
django.contrib.sites.models.Site.DoesNotExist: Site matching query does 
not exist.


I haven't done much configuration yet. It wouldn't be a problem to start 
new and lose all configuration data. What is the easiest way to reset 
configuration data? I am considering using mysql db for mailman-web 
configuration. Would changing to a new database reset everything?


Kind regards,
Nils
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[Mailman-Users] Re: Problems with mailman installation

2023-11-08 Thread Nils

Thank you both a lot, Odhiambo and Mark!

On 11/8/23 22:28, Mark Sapiro wrote:
As Odhiambo says, at this point you should be installing Mailman 3. 
Further, issues with Debian/Ubuntu packages should be reported to Debian.

OK.
What do you get if you try to run, e.g., 
/usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo manually. If you get a response with 
a group mismatch error, what does it say?

# sudo -u www-data /home/www/usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo
Content-type: text/html

Bug in Mailman version 2.1.26
Bug in Mailman version 2.1.26
We're sorry, we hit a bug!

Please inform the webmaster for this site of this
problem.  Printing of traceback and other system information has been
explicitly inhibited, but the webmaster can find this information in the
Mailman error logs.

-

Nov 08 22:45:39 2023 admin(25893): 


admin(25893): [- Mailman Version: 2.1.26 -]
admin(25893): [- Traceback --]
admin(25893): Traceback (most recent call last):
admin(25893):   File "/var/lib/mailman/scripts/driver", line 111, in 
run_main

admin(25893): if not request_method.lower() in ['get', 'post', 'head']:
admin(25893): AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'lower'
admin(25893): [- Python Information -]
admin(25893): sys.version =   2.7.17 (default, Mar  8 2023, 18:40:28)
[GCC 7.5.0]
admin(25893): sys.executable  =   /usr/bin/python
admin(25893): sys.prefix  =   /usr
admin(25893): sys.exec_prefix =   /usr
admin(25893): sys.path    =   ['/var/lib/mailman/pythonlib', 
'/var/lib/mailman', '/usr/lib/mailman/scripts', '/var/lib/mailman', '/usr
/lib/python2.7', '/usr/lib/python2.7/plat-x86_64-linux-gnu', 
'/usr/lib/python2.7/lib-tk', '/usr/lib/python2.7/lib-old', 
'/usr/lib/python2.
7/lib-dynload', '/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages', 
'/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages']

admin(25893): sys.platform    =   linux2
admin(25893): [- Environment Variables -]
admin(25893):   PYTHONPATH: /var/lib/mailman
admin(25893):   LOGNAME: www-data
admin(25893):   USER: www-data
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[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman3-web is broken after deleting site "example.com"

2023-11-09 Thread Nils
Please consider adding a comment to the mailman3-web documentation. 
While mailman3 seems to automatically initializes an empty database at 
startup, mailman3-web wouldn't. I needed to run the following command 
after clearing database or even after switching from sqlite to mariadb:


# sudo -u www-data python3 /usr/bin/django-admin migrate --no-input 
--pythonpath /usr/share/mailman3-web --settings settings


Or is this a debian/ubuntu issue?


On 11/8/23 21:35, Odhiambo Washington wrote:

Start over again and don't delete example.com!

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[Mailman-Users] Re: Problems with mailman installation

2023-11-09 Thread Nils

Thank you very much for your help, Steve.

On 11/9/23 14:10, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:

You're missing the bin directory and Python's files.  Are they
correctly specified in the chroot?
The binaries are not mounted into chroot environment. Only selected 
commands shall be available in jail. There's an update script, that has 
a list of binaries to provide and it checks for all dependencies of 
those binaries.


You were absolutely right! I've been careless, never doubting that the 
python binaries were in that list when they were in fact missing.


That solved the issue!

They should be in the chroot's /home/www/var/log hierarchy (except
maybe syslog if that's being logged to a pipe or socket).  Is that
where you're looking?
I've checked in both locations. I even created a writeable syslog file 
in chroot to be sure. Neither had any information.


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[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman3-web is broken after deleting site "example.com"

2023-11-09 Thread Nils

On 11/9/23 14:29, Odhiambo Washington wrote:

The official documentation gives the commands that need to be run during
installation.
(venv)mailman-web migrate
Oh, I've read that but assumed it was outdated because I don't seem to 
have that command.  My bad.


# mailman-web --help
mailman-web: command not found

Unfortunately, here we find it hard to support installations that are not
using the virtualenv method.
So we leave the support to the Package managers.

I understand.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] - Please Help Me ...

2003-03-30 Thread Nils Vogels
On Sun, Mar 30, 2003 at 02:56:10AM +0200, Borislav Borisov (BB) wrote:
BB> I wont change data in MM-Mailman-Footer (the data in the bottom of listinfo page), 
but i don`t know and i don`t idea where is can find MM-Mailman-Footer.

You can change the footer settings via the web frontend using:

http:///admin//nondigest
(fill in the obvious items between <>)

Offcourse, you have to be list or site-administrator to do this.

Cya,

Nils.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Internal Domain Resolution

2003-03-31 Thread Nils Vogels
On Mon, Mar 31, 2003 at 11:06:23AM -0500, Sullivan, John (SJ) wrote:
SJ> 
SJ> I am running RH 8 with Mailman 2.0. I am having a problem emailing the list
SJ> from my internal network. 
SJ> 
SJ> The list is setup to resolve the domain lists.mlsnet.com 
SJ> 
SJ> I can send emails to the list from any external account - Ex. Hotmail. 
SJ> 
SJ> But I cannot send emails to the lists from my regular corp email
SJ> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
SJ> 
SJ> Also when I send to the list from an external account - Ex Hotmail - It gets
SJ> delivered to everyone on the list except for registered users from the
SJ> mlsnet.com 

This sounds like a problem on the MTA level, or maybe DNS MX records .. not
your webserver and probably also not mailman, since mailman hands the emails
over to an MTA to do the delivery work.

HTH,

Nils.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Sample virtual domain in mm_cfg.py?

2003-03-31 Thread Nils Vogels
On Mon, Mar 31, 2003 at 07:46:45AM -0800, Ray Dzek (RD) wrote:
RD> 
RD> Can somebody provide a sample of how virtual domains are set up in the
RD> mm_cfg.py please? 
RD> 
RD> RedHat 8
RD> Postfix - postfix-1.1.11-5
RD> Mailman 2.1.1

I'm using pfix 2.0 on fbsd 4.7, but that shouldnt be that dissimilar .. 
here's the interesting part of the mm_cfg.py:


MTA = 'Postfix'
POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['sub1.example.org', 'sub2.example.org',
'sub3.example.org']

DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'sub1.example.org'
DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'sub1.example.org'
DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/mailman/'
DEFAULT_HOST_NAME = 'sub1.example.org'
add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)

And the pfix config interesting bit:

alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases, hash:/usr/local/mailman/data/aliases
virtual_alias_maps = hash:${config_directory}/domains,
hash:/usr/local/mailman/data/virtual-mailman

HTH,

Nils

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Connection Refused to listinfo and archives

2003-03-31 Thread Nils Vogels
On Sun, Mar 30, 2003 at 06:44:59PM -0700, Frederic Herman (FH) wrote:
FH> After installing a couple apache modules (php-mysql and mod-auth-mysql) 
FH> as rpms, I have lost the ability to connect to the listinfo and archives 
FH> pages.  I get "connection refused" and I see nothing in the logs to tell 
FH> me what the problem is.

Connection refused means that the webserver handling those pages is not
accepting any new connections at that point. This is usually the case when
your webserver is for some reason dead, or not bound to the IP address you are
trying to connect to.

HTH,

Nils.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Problems with large list

2003-04-05 Thread Nils Vogels
On Sat, Apr 05, 2003 at 03:00:41AM +, Leonardo Sá (LS) wrote:
LS> Hi everyone,
LS> 
LS> I'm running mailman with a list of more than 15000 subscribers.
LS> The problem is that i can't log into the web admin interface and i also 
LS> can't subscribe any new user throught the web, although the lists that have 
LS> less users can be easly managed.

Do you get an error message? If so, what is it ?

If not ... can you describe in more detail what happens ?

Gr,

Nils.

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[Mailman-Users] unsubscribe options

2003-08-14 Thread Nils Puhlmann
Hello,
I just installed mailman and found out that there does not seem to be an 
option to have confirmed unsubscribes?
It is a good idea to prevent others from unsubscribing members and the 
password is really inconvenient when people want to get off a list but do 
not remember their password. This leads to complaints which in turn can 
lead to a block by AOL for example.
Is there anything planned like a confirmed unsubscribe option pretty much 
the same way the confirmed subscribe works?

Nils

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Re: [Mailman-Users] unsubscribe options

2003-08-16 Thread Nils Puhlmann
Raquel,
Thanks for the response. You say that 2.1.2 provides what I am asking for 
but in the privacy options I only find the option for having a confirmation 
message sent for "subscribing" but not for "unsubscribing" members. Perhaps 
you can enlighten me where you find the option to verify that an 
unsubscribe request actually came from the member itself (confirmation)?

thanks, Nils

At 08:40 AM 8/15/2003 -0700, you wrote:
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 14:21:25 -0700
Nils Puhlmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
> I just installed mailman and found out that there does not seem to
> be an option to have confirmed unsubscribes?
> It is a good idea to prevent others from unsubscribing members and
> the password is really inconvenient when people want to get off a
> list but do not remember their password. This leads to complaints
> which in turn can lead to a block by AOL for example.
> Is there anything planned like a confirmed unsubscribe option
> pretty much the same way the confirmed subscribe works?
>
> Nils
>
Version 2.1.2 provides what you're asking.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] unsubscribe options

2003-08-17 Thread Nils Puhlmann
Thank you so much, that was a very detailed explanation. Too bad that is 
not available in the documentation of mailman otherwise I would have never 
even asked ;-)
thanks again!

At 11:08 AM 8/16/2003 +0100, you wrote:

On Saturday, August 16, 2003, at 09:17  am, Nils Puhlmann wrote:

Raquel,
Thanks for the response. You say that 2.1.2 provides what I am asking
for but in the privacy options I only find the option for having a
confirmation message sent for "subscribing" but not for
"unsubscribing" members. Perhaps you can enlighten me where you find
the option to verify that an unsubscribe request actually came from
the member itself (confirmation)?
thanks, Nils

At 08:40 AM 8/15/2003 -0700, you wrote:
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 14:21:25 -0700
Nils Puhlmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
> I just installed mailman and found out that there does not seem to
> be an option to have confirmed unsubscribes?
With MM 2.1.2 all unsubscribes not done by the list admin are
confirmed, as follows:
1. email unsubscribe with password supplied: no further action required.

2. email unsubscribe without password supplied: confirmation email sent
out requiring reply or web interface confirmation via emailed URL,
UNLESS Privacy->"Is the list moderator's approval required for
unsubscription requests?" option set for the list. In this latter case
only list moderator approval is necessary.
3. web interface unsubscribe with password supplied: no further action
required
4. web interface unsubscribe without password supplied: confirmation
email sent out requiring reply or web interface confirmation via
emailed URL, UNLESS Privacy->"Is the list moderator's approval required
for unsubscription requests?" option set for the list. In this latter
case only list moderator approval is necessary.
What else in the way of confirmation of an unsubscribe are you looking
for?
> It is a good idea to prevent others from unsubscribing members and
> the password is really inconvenient when people want to get off a
> list but do not remember their password.
To unsubscribe without a password, the user can just email to
-unsubscribe and then respond to the confirmation message
emailed back to them. No need to have or remember their password.
People can always get a password reminder emailed to them via the link
on the list's listinfo page or unsubscribe without a password via the
link on the list's listinfo page.
This leads to complaints
> which in turn can lead to a block by AOL for example.
> Is there anything planned like a confirmed unsubscribe option
> pretty much the same way the confirmed subscribe works?
>
> Nils
>
Version 2.1.2 provides what you're asking.

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[Mailman-Users] mailman interface with other fields?

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Is it possible to change the sign-up interface of mailman to include other 
fields?
What I want to accomplish is that people also fill in for example their 
location, age, hobby and so on and that all of that is stored in the list 
database.
Is this possible with the current version or is something planned for a 
future release?

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[Mailman-Users] mailman interface with other fields?

2003-09-04 Thread Nils Puhlmann
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fields?
What I want to accomplish is that people also fill in for example their 
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[Mailman-Users] how to change mailman icons

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[Mailman-Users] Virtual Hosting puzzle

2002-05-31 Thread Nils Vogels

Hi all,

I've been looking through the archive and read the two FAQ's (one on list.org,
the other one on python.org amd I have a question:

I'm trying to setup a virtual hosting mailman site, but im running into the
following issue:

1) VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW is on, and im running mailman from the ports tree,
version 2.0.10
2) The FAQ says i need to create a unique listname on the 'default' host,
which I do using the newlist command. Lets say the name is
'foobar-vhostdotcom'. Next, I change the weburl and mail domain to
vhostdotcom. This will make the list show up in the listinfo of the mailman
interface on vhostdotcom. Yay!
3) When I try to change the name to 'foobar' (since I no longer need the
vhostdotcom in its name) the interface denies me. This means the list is still
only accessible using 'http://vhostdotcom/mailman/listinfo/foobar-vhostdotcom
.. which seems a bit redundant ;)
4) Also, when I am at the vhostdotcom listinfo page, and click to the 'list
admin overview' page, I will see all lists, both on vhostdotcom and the
default host. Why ? I really dont need all people on vhostdotcom to know the
existance of all lists ;-)

Could someone please give me a hint ? I'm sure I did something wrong, being
new to mailman and all ;)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Exim and mimefilter (on debian)

2002-06-11 Thread Nils Vogels

On Tue, Jun 11, 2002 at 05:43:40PM +0200, Fredrik Jonson wrote:
> Hello, 
> 
> I am trying to set up mailman on debian woody and am interested 
> in using mimefilter to remove unwanted attachments. 

I'm trying to do the same on postfix / freebsd .. but with a little bit of
extra functionality.

IO'd like some mimetypes (like text/plain) to be shown inline, while others
(like 4k big image/jpeg) i'd like to be completely allowed. Is this
configurable somewhere, since I cannot find it ..

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Re: [Mailman-Users] list serve problem-- any takers?

2002-06-11 Thread Nils Vogels

On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 12:20:29PM -0400, Marie-Laure E Leger wrote:

> Someone who sent an email across it got a message bounced back 
> saying: "'No space left on device'" 
> Another person got this message: 
> IOError: [Errno 28] No space left on device
> Original log message:
> [Errno 28] No space left on device
> Traceback (innermost last):
> 

Check the free inodes on your filesystem,

df -i /path/to/filesystem

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Wrapper problems

2002-06-11 Thread Nils Vogels

On Tue, Jun 11, 2002 at 10:18:28AM -0400, Tracy Snell wrote:
> 
> I just installed mailman. Perms check out OK. Web interface works fine. I go
> to the subscribe page and sign up for my test list. I get the e-mail. When I
> reply to it Postfix shows that it's delivered to wrapper with no error. From
> there it disappears. No error in any logs that I can find.
> /home/mailman/logs only shows entries from the web page activity, none from
> the subscription reply I sent. Any ideas?

Are you running the cronjob to process the entries submitted to the wrapper ?
An example comes with the installation ;-)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] tremendous horror!

2002-06-14 Thread Nils Vogels

On Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 04:02:13PM -0500, Adam Frank wrote:
> I have been running a list for some time now, and recently seemingly
> random subscription confirmations are being sent to people on the
> list. Some people are reporting recieving over a dozen confirmations a
> day (you know, the "Confirm x")! Does anyone know what could be
> causing this, because it is really annoying the heck out of the people on
> my list!

Are they being fired off from the cron ? or sent after web administration ?

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[Mailman-Users] Preventing unsubscribe ?

2002-06-14 Thread Nils Vogels

Hi,

I'm running a mandatory announce list (dont worry, its not spam, just things i
want people to know, for some friends etc, like where the free beer is ;), and
I'd like to know how i can prevent people from unsubscribing, or at least only
being able to unsubscribe when an admin explicitly allows it ..

Any hints ?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem with Large Mailing List (431)

2002-06-14 Thread Nils Vogels

On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 04:12:30PM -0400, Christopher Miles wrote:

-8<-

>  snippety-snip
> 
> Jun 14 14:50:41 alice courieresmtpd:
> error,relay=:::127.0.0.1,from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,to= [EMAIL PROTECTED]>: 431 Too many recipients.
> 
>  snip-snippety

Mailman is trying to send all mail to your mailserver in one go. To prevent
spammish actions, the amount of recipients in one message is often limited.

The solution is, to make mailman split up the number of recipients sent in one
message. Now the question is, is this possible with mailman ?

I don't know ;)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] HTML MAILINGS??/

2002-06-14 Thread Nils Vogels

On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 04:11:40AM -0400, johnpaul wrote:
> Does this program support html mailings?
> If it does not do you know of and possibly sell any programs that do?

Depending on the settings used, it /could/ support HTML mailings, yes.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Message has implicit destination

2002-06-14 Thread Nils Vogels

On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 10:40:49AM -0700, Dave Hinders wrote:

> Message has implicit destination
>  
> The list address is present in either the To: or CC: fields, so I'm

Are you sure the /exact/ name is present in to or cc ? You might want to put
some extra possibilities in $acceptable_aliases ..

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Re: [Mailman-Users] removing a list with spaces in it's name

2002-06-15 Thread Nils Vogels

On Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 10:07:57AM -0400, Yannick Gingras wrote:
> 
> Hi, 
>I'm really pleased with mailman, this is helping me a lot to get my 
> delelopers in touch.  
> 
> I just have a little problem here.  I accidentaly created a list with spaces 
> in it's name and I can't remove it with the rmlist script.  I supose it is 
> related to the spaces in it's name.  What should be the right procedure to 
> remove the list by hand without breaking my mailman instalation ? 

You could try

/path/to/mailman/bin/rmlist "place your listname here"

or even

/path/to/mailman/bin/rmlist 'place your listname here'

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem - Send

2002-06-15 Thread Nils Vogels

On Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 05:41:42PM -0500, root wrote:
> Helo World
> 
> My List do not send mail at the members
> only recive the admin-email

Probably a problem with the setup of your aliases, but we really need more
info to be able to help you .. Also, check if your question is listed in the
FAQ, the URL for it is listed below in the list seperator.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Question

2002-06-15 Thread Nils Vogels

Hey Jody,

On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 04:33:52PM -0400, Jody Wishner wrote:

-8<-

> Now I know this may seem like a dumb question, but if I want to do a mass mailing to 
>everyone on my mailing list (almost like a spam mailing), is there a way in your 
>program to write an e-mail and have it address everyone on the list, something like 
>the mass enrollment screen. 

You can use crontab to achieve this.

Crontab is a program that lets you schedule jobs, things to do, maintenance,
or send out emails :)

What you need to do is:

1) Put the text you want to email in a seperate textfile and put it on the
mailinglist server (it needs to be a machine which is powered on at the time
you want to send the email)
2) Make a commandline to send out the email.
   Personally, since I'm hooked on mutt, an email program, I'd use:
mutt [EMAIL PROTECTED] -s "Monthly FAQ Posting" < /your/path/to/message-1.txt

(this above is one line)
Do not type it in, just write it down in a seperate textfile or something, so
you can paste it in in step 3 ;)

3) Read the crontab manual page and decide how often you want to post this
message. In my example, it's monthly, and I'd like to send it every second day
of the month at 3 am, thus I add this crontab:

0 3 2 * * mutt [EMAIL PROTECTED] -s "Monthly FAQ Posting" < 
/your/path/to/message-1.txt

(again, this is one line!)

4) Wait till it's July 2nd, 3 am ans watch the fireworks ;)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Question

2002-06-15 Thread Nils Vogels

On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 09:51:13AM -0400, Rudinsky, Melanie M CONT JW1063 wrote:
> Is it possible to import files from LSERV?  If so, where can I find out how?

Which files do you want to import ?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] RE: Malfunction list

2002-06-15 Thread Nils Vogels

On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 11:45:10PM -0400, Timothy Brier wrote:
> The problem has been found. Kaspersky, an anti-virus program does not allow
> the e-mail to be delivered.  I'm going to drop this product.
> 
> I'm now open to any suggestions for an anti-virus solution for
> postifx/mailman

Check rav-postfix .. it works nicely over here ;-)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Malfunctioning list

2002-06-15 Thread Nils Vogels

On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 10:24:59PM -0400, Timothy Brier wrote:

> I have about 13 lists and all work except one.  When I send an e-mail to the
> list [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> I turned ack on, I get back a message saying the msg was received, but
> nothing is sent out to the lists members.  The other lists work fine.

Was it held for admin moderation maybe ?

Just my $0.02 ;)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] how to create an announce-only list / newsletter / admin-post only list

2002-06-20 Thread Nils Vogels

On Thu, Jun 20, 2002 at 11:54:13AM -0400, Scott Courtney wrote:
> On Thursday 20 June 2002 11:17 am, Nils Vogels wrote:
> > Could you please explain me, why it is a good thing that people can not
> > unsubscribe from such a list ?
> >
> > I can imagine cases where the administrator of the list finds it important
> > that a message gets delivered to all the people /he/ wishes to explicitly
> > receive the message.
> >
> > While I agree this could easily be used for UCE, imagine a list of people
> > you want to send a christmas-postcard via email to. I'd really like the
> > good things from mailman, such as bounce detection, archiving etc, while I
> > also want to make sure that each of my online friends gets the digital
> > postcard.
> 
> Even in this case, though, I think it is bad form not to allow unsubscription.
> If you have a greeting card list, and someone takes the trouble to specifically
> follow a link or send a list command to unsubscribe, wouldn't that suggest that
> the greeting card is unwelcome? Unsubscriptions rarely happen by accident.

[ snip online friends ]

Somehow I recognise the situation .. :)

> I don't mean any disrespect to your views, but I'm still unable to come up with
> any non-spam reason for blocking unsubscriptions. If someone can think of one
> that I've overlooked, I'll gladly stand corrected. :-)

One other issue that I have, where the feature might come in handy is this:

Imagine this: I've got a nested mailinglist, like this:

mailinglist1
  - user1
  - user2
  - mailinglist2
- user3
- user4
  - mailinglist3
- user5
- user6
  - user7

Should anyone use the option 'lost password' option for maillinglist2, they would 
be able to get the password to control options such as unsubscribing, since
they know the address the posts go to. For obvious reasons, I /really/ do not 
want that ...

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[Mailman-Users] Mail sent to 2 different mailinglists under one domain fail..

2012-01-31 Thread Nils Kolstein
Hello,

As a list administrator for several mailinglists I encounter the
following issue:

I have two mailinglists under one domain. When sending an E-Mail to
both mailinglists the message is only delivered to one mailinglist. I
don't recieve a "recipient unknown" message or similar back so it
seems the message is blackholed somewhere.

This behaviour is seen when mailing from several different domains
(gmail, hotmail etc.)

The version of Mailman installed is 2.1.9

I checked the FAQ and list archives and was unable to find a similar
issue. Does anyone know what's going on? Is there some setting I have
to change?

Many thanks in adavnce for your help.

regards,

Nils Kolstein
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