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[Mailman-Users] Restricting access to the create list web page

2003-01-25 Thread Mark

Hi, 

I have just upgraded to Mailman 2.1 and all my previous problems have
now vanished and its working prefectly 
(only taken a week of constant searching and brain bashing)

I have just noticed (maybe I never realised before), but there is a web
page that will allow list admins to create a new list.

Is there anyway I can restrict access to this page, by say IP.

I don't want joe public top be able to bring this page up at all, only
the internal network list admins.

I was thinking of a directive in the mailman httpd.conf file, but not
sure where to put it.

Any help would be great

Mark

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[Mailman-Users] List not working -errors on login

2001-10-31 Thread mark


Hello!
I have been using the Mailman lists offered by my Web host Venture's Online.
The lists are accessed through CPanel3.  For the past few months, one of my
lists has not been transmitting messages sent by the users, or is erratic at
best, and now when I try to log in to the list, I get this error:

"We're sorry, we hit a bug!
Mailman experienced a very low level failure and could not even generate a
useful traceback for you. Please report this to the Mailman administrator at
this site. "

I would appreciate any assistance.  (The list is labeled
[EMAIL PROTECTED])

Thanks.

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[Mailman-Users] How to install mailmain on raq4i

2001-11-13 Thread Mark


Hello, Is their any info on installing mailman on a raq4i?

Mark


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[Mailman-Users] MM 2.1.3 digests keep failing to go out

2004-01-11 Thread Mark

I have three active Mailman 2.1.3 mailing lists
at my email-hosting provider, http://www.ricochehost.com
The Mailman is on their servers as part of
cPanel, a webhosting control panel interface
( http://www.cpanel.net ).

Every few weeks, the digests simply stop going
out, and the admin there fixes this by reinstalling
Mailman each time.  But I won't have him keep
doing that.  I have been sending the digests
manually as a stopgap, but doing so is tedious.

Does any of you have any idea what might be
causing Mailman to stop sending digests, and
how it might fixed?

Thanks in advance.

Mark in Berkeley















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[Mailman-Users] setting a list for no daily reminders?

2004-11-20 Thread Mark

I am running a list set to immediately send administrative requests
(admin_immed_notify  set to yes), but I am getting daily notices as
well.  I don't want to receive daily notices.  The immediate notices
are sufficient.  Nor do I see the logic in filling my inbox with
daily notices when I'm not around or haven't had a chance to process 
the immediate notices that are already sitting there.

Is there any way to change this??
THANX!!
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[Mailman-Users] removing your lists from the main lists

2015-05-05 Thread Mark

Hi new user i run a mailman lists for a blind group and wondered is there a way 
of not having the lists listed on the main mailman pageonly this group is for 
members only and are getting people out side the group trying to post messages 
to our groups
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[Mailman-Users] upgrading mailman

2015-05-05 Thread Mark

Hi my linode needs upgrading and  i have been told if i upgrade it  will break 
my mailman does any one know if this right
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[Mailman-Users] Archive problem

2015-05-06 Thread Mark

Good after noon,
i have a Archived list but if i go to my Archives  it ses no messages have been 
posted yet
this is not troo only they are being posted can any one help
the list is set to private Archive
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[Mailman-Users] Assistance with altering reply-to behaviours and DMARC

2015-08-27 Thread Mark

Hi,

First, apologies if this has been discussed before. I run a number of mailman lists on a Centos 6 platform and mailman 2.1.12-25. This version was updated in July as follows:
https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2015-1417.html and included fixes for a number of DMARC issues. Including "... With this update, domains with a "reject" DMARC policy are
recognized correctly.."

Normally the lists we use are configured with reply_goes_to_list and anonymous_list is off. We have done some testing, and we have not been able to identify settings that will
retain reply_goes_to_list functionality and turn on DMARC Mung.

Generally what happens is that the first message is successfully sent to a yahoo.com address and this user can reply to the message as normal. However, mailman adds the original
sender to the reply-to meaning that when another user replies to this message reply_goes_to_list doesn't work.

It seemed to me that a small modification to CookHeaders.py could prevent the adding of
the original sender email to "Reply-To"

# We also need to put the old From: in Reply-To: in all cases.
if o_from:
add(o_from)
# Set Reply-To: header to point back to this list. Add this last

seemed like a good place to look, but before I try to debug commenting out this
didn't prevent the addition of the original sender to Reply-To I would ask for
some advice !!

any assistance would be very helpful!! (it maybe that changing the order of
addresses in the Reply-To field would all reply_goes_to_list would work?)

thanks
Mark.

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[Mailman-Users] Assistance with altering reply-to behaviours and DMARC

2015-08-27 Thread Mark

Hi,

It seemed to me that a small modification to CookHeaders.py could prevent the adding of
the original sender email to "Reply-To"

# We also need to put the old From: in Reply-To: in all cases.
if o_from:
add(o_from)
# Set Reply-To: header to point back to this list. Add this last

seemed like a good place to look, but before I try to debug commenting out this
didn't prevent the addition of the original sender to Reply-To I would ask for
some advice !!

any assistance would be very helpful!! (it maybe that changing the order of
addresses in the Reply-To field would all reply_goes_to_list would work?)

thanks
Mark.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Assistance with altering reply-to behaviours and DMARC

2015-08-27 Thread Mark

On 28/08/15 4:37 pm, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:

Stock Mailman 2.1.12 doesn't do any DMARC detection.  This is quite
bizarre that they would backport such a feature rather than update to
2.1.18-1 or later.  Mailman 2.1 is hardly an unstable package.

I am not sure why the changes were back-ported - maybe it had something to do with the version of Python on the platform.  I fully understand that the ability of the developers is 
limited to supporting known releases, and this release is not a supported one. So I don't expect more than some general guidance :)

  > Normally the lists we use are configured with reply_goes_to_list
  > and anonymous_list is off.  We have done some testing, and we have
  > not been able to identify settings that will retain
  > reply_goes_to_list functionality and turn on DMARC Mung.

You'll have to talk to the vendor who did the modifications.

  > Generally what happens is that the first message is successfully
  > sent to a yahoo.com address and this user can reply to the message
  > as normal.  However, mailman adds the original sender to the
  > reply-to meaning that when another user replies to this message
  > reply_goes_to_list doesn't work.

What do you mean by "doesn't work"?  That it doesn't go to the list at
all, or that although it goes to the list, it *also* goes (separately)
to the original poster?

I will try to explain, but its only on subsequent replies the issue appears:-

Step 1:  email is sent to the list - the mail to DMARC protected domain is 
received ok by Yahoo web client.  Reply-to is set to the list.

Message source of first email is:

 From: Mark 
 Reply-To: Test 

Step 2: Reply from Yahoo client sends an email to the list and this has the 
following source when viewed on Thunderbird MUA

 From: Mark H via Test 
 Reply-To: Mark H , Test 

Step 3: A reply from the TB MUA goes to markh...@yahoo.com and 
t...@testdomain.org

Because mailman helpfully recognises that a copy has already been sent to the 
user directly, a copy is not sent to markhnzy@ from the list.

Step 4: Now, when markhnzy@ replies, the conversation is between the recipient 
and the sender alone.

Not going to the list at all means the MUA is broken IMO; multiple
addresses in Reply-To are explicitly allowed by the RFC, and MUAs
should reply to all of them.

  > It seemed to me that a small modification to CookHeaders.py could
  > prevent the adding of the original sender email to "Reply-To"
  >
  >  # We also need to put the old From: in Reply-To: in all cases.
  >  if o_from:
  >  add(o_from)
  >  # Set Reply-To: header to point back to this list.  Add this last

After disabling the "add(o_from)" operation, if reply_goes_to_list is
set, then (1) the reply goes *only* to the list by default, and (2) it
is impossible for the user's MUA to automatically format a reply to
poster.  If reply_goes_to_list is not set, (1) reply by default will go to
list (since it's the address in From), and (2) it is impossible to
automatically format a reply to poster.

I agree that this is not a bug as such; its more about the desired behaviour 
for a specific need of mailman and that new non-RFC compliant behaviour will 
result.

I tried commenting out if o_from and add(o_from), but original from address was still added to the reply-to(as well as the list address).  I did change some permissions and restart 
mailman and confirm that a new py file was created, so I don't think its that my change wasn't included.

Is there any other code in the standard mailman where the reply-to is populated with the original sender?  I realise  fully aware that the version of mailman I have here isn't 
supported, or released, and other bugs may have been introduced.

thanks again for the replies.

Mark.

It is our opinion that (2) is a sufficiently important bug that we are
unlikely to change this, even to provide an option.  But if you want
to make that edit, it probably does what you want.  Depending on your
users, you may or may not get complaints about inability to respond
privately.

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[Mailman-Users] mailman help

2016-01-13 Thread mark


Hi all,
is there a way of setting some one subscription for a month then it be 
deleted after that time unless told not to

mark.
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[Mailman-Users] Mailman list help

2017-03-22 Thread mark

Hi all I have a list setup with a email forwarder to 
The problem is if any non-member emails the list I have to aloud it is there
any way we can have non-members just emailing the list also need to
moderated it as well ie block any email address
Mark.

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[Mailman-Users] mailman httpd location question

2024-03-09 Thread Mark

Hi,

Under OpenBSD's httpd, my mailman setup gives an HTTP 404 error when
'mysite.com/listinfo' is
typed, however 'mysite.com/listinfo/' works.

In order to *solve* this issue, I added 2 different locations pointing to
the same cgi script, as:

location "/listinfo" {
fastcgi socket "/var/www/run/slowcgi.sock"
root "/usr/local/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo"
request strip 1
}

location "/listinfo/*" {
fastcgi socket "/var/www/run/slowcgi.sock"
root "/usr/local/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo"
request strip 1
}

The same goes for /create and other cgi scripts as well.

Wondering how to make both ways (with ending '/' and without) work?

Is there any parameter configuring this in mailman2?

Best wishes,
Mark.
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[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman httpd location question

2024-03-10 Thread Mark

Hi Odhiambo, thanks for the feedback!

However the OpenBSD tutorial from quernus is pretty outdated.
(syntax errors for both smtpd.conf and httpd.conf)

Actually all I wanted to do is;
To combining and make both requests work;
1- /location listinfo
and
2- /location listinfo/* (the wildcard here is needed for pages such as;
https://list.site.com/listinfo/ourgroupmaillist)

So that, I solved it with adding these extra blocks;

location match "/admin(.*)" {
request rewrite "/admin/%1"
}

location match "/listinfo(.*)" {
request rewrite "/listinfo/%1"
}

location match "/create(.*)" {
request rewrite "/create/%1"
}

Much regards,
Mark.


On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 10:41 AM Odhiambo Washington 
wrote:

>
>
> On Sat, Mar 9, 2024 at 6:18 PM Mark  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Under OpenBSD's httpd, my mailman setup gives an HTTP 404 error when
>> 'mysite.com/listinfo' is
>> typed, however 'mysite.com/listinfo/' works.
>>
>> In order to *solve* this issue, I added 2 different locations pointing to
>> the same cgi script, as:
>>
>> location "/listinfo" {
>> fastcgi socket "/var/www/run/slowcgi.sock"
>> root "/usr/local/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo"
>> request strip 1
>> }
>>
>> location "/listinfo/*" {
>> fastcgi socket "/var/www/run/slowcgi.sock"
>> root "/usr/local/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo"
>> request strip 1
>> }
>>
>> The same goes for /create and other cgi scripts as well.
>>
>> Wondering how to make both ways (with ending '/' and without) work?
>>
>> Is there any parameter configuring this in mailman2?
>>
>
> Hi Mark,
>
> Here is a working tutorial that you can follow.
>
> https://www.quernus.co.uk/2015/09/28/running-mailman-on-openbsd/
>
> Also, please ditch the efforts to run Mailman2 and start with Mailman3:-)
> https://xn--gckvb8fzb.com/mailman3-on-openbsd-71/
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[Mailman-Users] Re: searchable archive

2024-04-19 Thread Mark







On 4/18/24 08:08, Laack, Andrea P. via Mailman-Users wrote:
I am setting up a Mailman 2 instance and am looking for a searchable 
archiver.  Is there anything available for Mailman 2 that provides 
searching?




On 2024-04-19 03:40, Mark Sapiro wrote:

See https://wiki.list.org/x/4030514



In the Wiki that Mark has mentioned, there is a reference to Namazu.

There is also a very clear and detailed guide on adding the Namazu 
search engine to Mailman2 archives at:


http://bakacsin.ki.iif.hu/~kissg/project/mailman+namazu/
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: autorespond_requests in 2.1x

2002-12-30 Thread Mark Geisinger

Sunday, December 29, 2002, 2:06:27 PM, you wrote:

>>>>>> "MG" == Mark Geisinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> MG> Is autorespond_requests broken in 2.1x, or do I perhaps
> MG> misunderstand its purpose? I'm using 2.1b4 and would like to
> MG> avoid having a request autoresponse sent to a subscribe
> MG> request, or for any other request.

> You (or I ;) might be misunderstanding the feature.  Any message sent
> to the -request, -join, or -leave address will get a confirmation
> message indicating the results of the request.  This isn't
> configurable.

> In addition, Mailman can send an autoresponse message to messages sent
> to the -request address, and this is configurable via the
> autorespond_requests variable.

Barry, thanks for the explanation. Such an autoresponse to -request makes sense,
given that such a message can be related to commands that require action, or
response, outside of the subscription process. Consider this behavior, though.
We provide a Web interface to a handful of topical lists. If someone comes by
and subscribes to four lists, they receive eight messages. What's the point?

I just un-sub'ed a test address from one of my own lists. Confirming the
un-subscribe, I first received the expected two line "Your address has been
removed from the mailing list." message. Cool. Then I get the autoresponse that
offers this,

> The results of your email command are provided below. Attached is your
> original message.
> 
> - Results:
> Confirmation succeeded

along with the entire body of the original remove confirmation message.

My point is a) that traffic for subscription confirms is redundant, and b) it's
actually confusing subscribers. Since moving from v2.0.13, where this behavior
didn't exist, I've actually had a number of folks miss the purpose of the
subscription confirmation msg (and thus not confirming), believing that the
autoresponse is an affirmative response to their sub. request.

Is there no way to ditch this behavior for join/leave?

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Re[2]: [Mailman-Users] Re: autorespond_requests in 2.1x

2002-12-30 Thread Mark Geisinger

On Tuesday, December 31, 2002, 12:30:45 AM, you wrote:
> And we've had in 2.0.x subscribers fail to confirm because (as of 2.0.6,
> anyhow), the request could easily be misread as an acknowledgement.  We hacked
> the message a little to make it more obvious.  (Old news now.)

Darn pesky users. ;} I've taken some similar steps here. Even went to some
lengths on the Web site to try to make it as obvious as possible without
actually SHOUTING at them. I suppose the real problem is that some folks just
don't read the stuff. Well, I'm guilty of that on occasion, too. In this case, I
think that Mailman's autoresponses to the sub/remove msgs. is compounding the
problem.

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Re[2]: [Mailman-Users] Re: autorespond_requests in 2.1x

2002-12-31 Thread Mark Geisinger

On Tuesday, December 31, 2002, 7:41:41 AM, you wrote:
> That should be fixed in MM2.1 final.  You'll get just one response.

Very cool, Barry. Thanks much!

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[Mailman-Users] best practices for pipermail archives -- look and feel touch ups

2003-01-14 Thread Mark Rauterkus

Hi All,

What are the best ways to slightly jazz up the web display of the archives?

I'd love to have the archives look slightly like my site with footer, a
logo, a link back to the home page and /mailman/listinfo, etc.

Do some of your put in server side includes?


Ta.

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[Mailman-Users] Back tracking subscribers confirmations

2003-01-19 Thread Mark C

Hi, 

I'm about to install mailman for a friend of mine, basically he runs a
motivation company (yes the one that employers send their staff onto to
try to get them to enjoy and be motivated in their £4.50 an hour
telesales job).

Basically he wishes send mails out informing subscribers of new deals
and seminares etc..

So I decided to take charge and build him a two machines, web server,
email server and hopefully use mailman to send out these mails, on one
condition, that anyone who he wants to send a mail *MUST* subscribe of
their own free will 
(or I will literley delete his entire harddrive on all the servers, as I
don't want mailman or Linux assosiated with being responsable for
spamming, as I will be maintaining the boxs).

Is it possable in mailman to keep track of all mail sent and received?
( I know sendmail, logs all transactions), so if someone complains to
his ISP that they never asked for a mail, we can prove by going through
mailmans archives or logs that yes they did and that we can provide the
confirmation email from that users agreed to sign up to the list.

Thanks in advance

Mark


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[Mailman-Users] re subscribers not getting welcome email

2003-01-19 Thread Mark C

Hi, 

I have managed to so far sucessfully setup mailman on a private test
network.

I subscribed a few test users and, that worked no problem, each got a
request email and a confirmation email.

I then went to the web interface and unsubscribed them, and again I got
a goodbye email.

I then tested it again, by subscribing to the same list as using one of
the previous unsubscribed email addresses, and got a request email, but
this time, when I go to confirm the request, I never get a welcome email
and looking at the mailman web User Management interface, that user has
not been added onto the list.

looking at /var/log/mailman/subscribe, each user is still pending, and
according to my /var/log/maillog, sendmail has forwarded the reqest to
the wrapper mailcmd program.

There are no errors, listed in mailmans error logs either.

Please see below (note: the domain names will not resolve externally,
but will internally, as I have internal DNS setup)

/var/log/mailman/sunscribe:
Jan 20 02:05:31 2003 (7357) angelnet-news: pending [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
stimpy.angelnet.int


/var/log/maillog:

Subscribing from web Interface:

Jan 20 02:05:31 eir sendmail[7358]: h0K25VPU007358:
from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=1772, class=-60, nrcpts=1,
msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, proto=ESMTP,
daemon=MTA, relay=eir.angelnet.int [127.0.0.1]
Jan 20 02:05:31 eir sendmail[7359]: h0K25VPU007358:
to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=local,
pri=139955, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent


replying via my mail client:

Jan 20 02:06:16 eir sendmail[7366]: h0K26FPU007366:
from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=1440, class=0, nrcpts=1,
msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, proto=ESMTP,
daemon=MTA, relay=stimpy.angelnet.int [192.168.2.100]
Jan 20 02:06:17 eir sendmail[7367]: h0K26FPU007366:
to="|/var/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd angelnet-news",
ctladdr=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (8/0), delay=00:00:01,
xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=prog, pri=31685, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent

If I try to subscribe as a new user, it still works perfectly.
I am also set as the list admin as well

Any help would be greatly appresiated.

Thanks in advance

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[Mailman-Users] ValueError: math domain error on crontab jobs

2003-01-20 Thread Mark Cooke

Hi all,

I have been noticing since installing mailman from my RedHat 8.0 cd, 
that I have been getting these cron job errors, they seem to vary, but 
the main errors are:

Cron  /usr/bin/python -S /var/mailman/cron/gate_news:
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/var/mailman/cron/gate_news", line 40, in ?
from Mailman import MailList
  File "/var/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 36, in ?
from Mailman import Utils
  File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Utils.py", line 32, in ?
import random
  File "/usr/lib/python2.2/random.py", line 91, in ?
NV_MAGICCONST = 4 * _exp(-0.5)/_sqrt(2.0)
ValueError: math domain error

Cron  /usr/bin/python -S /var/mailman/cron/qrunner:
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/var/mailman/cron/qrunner", line 84, in ?
from Mailman import Utils
  File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Utils.py", line 32, in ?
import random
  File "/usr/lib/python2.2/random.py", line 91, in ?
NV_MAGICCONST = 4 * _exp(-0.5)/_sqrt(2.0)
ValueError: math domain error

I've done some hunting, but so far found nothing that I feel is relevant.

Could someone possably, explain what the errros mean and how I could fix 
them.

Apart from these, mailman its is working perfectly ok, on an enclioed 
private testing network.

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[Mailman-Users] ValueError: math domain error on crontab jobs

2003-01-20 Thread Mark Cooke

Hi all,

I have been noticing since installing mailman from my RedHat 8.0 cd, 
that I have been getting these cron job errors, they seem to vary, but 
the main errors are:

Cron  /usr/bin/python -S /var/mailman/cron/gate_news:
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/var/mailman/cron/gate_news", line 40, in ?
from Mailman import MailList
  File "/var/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 36, in ?
from Mailman import Utils
  File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Utils.py", line 32, in ?
import random
  File "/usr/lib/python2.2/random.py", line 91, in ?
NV_MAGICCONST = 4 * _exp(-0.5)/_sqrt(2.0)
ValueError: math domain error

Cron  /usr/bin/python -S /var/mailman/cron/qrunner:
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/var/mailman/cron/qrunner", line 84, in ?
from Mailman import Utils
  File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Utils.py", line 32, in ?
import random
  File "/usr/lib/python2.2/random.py", line 91, in ?
NV_MAGICCONST = 4 * _exp(-0.5)/_sqrt(2.0)
ValueError: math domain error

I've done some hunting, but so far found nothing that I feel is relevant.

Could someone possably, explain what the errros mean and how I could fix 
them.

Apart from these, mailman its is working perfectly ok, on an enclioed 
private testing network.

Cheers

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Re: [Mailman-Users] ValueError: math domain error on crontab jobs

2003-01-20 Thread Mark Cooke

Danny Terweij wrote:


Set your box a real domain name?
Create a file : /etc/HOSTNAME
And put there FDQN from box :)

Maybe then it works right. But i could be wrong.


Thats what I was thinking, as this is a private internal tesing network, 
it has a madeup domainname, but local DNS resolves this correctly.

The problem may be down to the two settings I had in mm_cfg.py.

When I first set it up, I put the required information as specified, ie
I set the hostname, but rather than sending mails from

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

I was getting them from:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

hence my options below:

DEFAULT_HOST_NAME = 'angelnet.int'
DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'mailman.angelnet.int'
DEFAULT_URL   = 'http://%s/mailman/' % DEFAULT_URL_HOST
MAILMAN_OWNER = 'mailman-owner@%s' % DEFAULT_HOST_NAME

my /etc/hosts is listed as below:

# Do not remove the following line, or various programs
# that require network functionality will fail.
127.0.0.1  eir.angelnet.int mailman mail localhost.localdomain localhost
192.168.1.2 eir.angelnet.int eir

FQDN: eir.angelnet.int

Sorry is the above is incorect, but that was the only way I could 
resolve the problem.
All mail on my domain , can be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and it gets 
sorted correctly (by the mx address of the domain), but mailman seems to 
want to put the fqdn is there instead.

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[Mailman-Users] Help with sending HTML mail and using external weblinks for images

2003-01-22 Thread Mark C

Hi,

I'm wishing to send out a newletter once a month to several people in 
HTML, and rather than put the image directly in the email (to save 
bandwidth), it it possable to link it in with the email, so when they 
read it, it downloads it from the website (this will be a special 
directory on the mailman server), rather than have it as an attatchment

I have tried creating a  creating a html mail in mozilla, and then 
putting in a href, but that just print the link into it.

Is this at all possable.

Cheers

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with sending HTML mail and using externalweblinks for images

2003-01-22 Thread Mark C

Jon Carnes wrote:

Yes. Marketing folks do it all the time.  If you want a live example of
an email that does this, just open up some spam from your mailbox and
peruse the source/content of the email.


But this does sound silly, how would I put that link into the html?
As I presuem the only way to get Mailman to send the html format mail, 
would be to copose it in youre email client, and if I referance a http 
address, it will diplay that rather than an image?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with sending HTML mail and using externalweblinks for images

2003-01-22 Thread Mark C

Barry A. Warsaw wrote:


This isn't really a Mailman issue, 

At least some actually tried to help me, as any this else I have posted 
that *IS* mailman related, I never got a reply.

other than to configure the list to
pass the MIME content you want to pass through.  I'm sure there's some
MIME goo you can add to your attachments to get (some) mail readers to
display the image inline, but off-hand I don't remember what they are
and I don't have access to the RFCs at the moment.  I'm guessing some
kind of multipart/related with a Content-Disposition: inline thingie.


Thanks for the advise.

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[Mailman-Users] Restricting access to the create list web page

2003-01-25 Thread Mark C

Hi, 

I have just upgraded to Mailman 2.1 and all my previous problems have
now vanished and its working prefectly 
(only taken a week of constant searching and brain bashing)

I have just noticed (maybe I never realised before), but there is a web
page that will allow list admins to create a new list.

Is there anyway I can restrict access to this page, by say IP.

I don't want joe public top be able to bring this page up at all, only
the internal network list admins.

I was thinking of a directive in the mailman httpd.conf file, but not
sure where to put it.

Any help would be great

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Restricting access to the create list web page(sorted)

2003-01-25 Thread Mark C

On Sat, 2003-01-25 at 12:22, Mark C wrote:

This has now been sorted, 
Thanks to Tokio Kikuchi


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[Mailman-Users] Which functions???

2003-01-29 Thread Mark Rauterkus


Hi,

How do you NUKE an address from ALL the lists on your server?

Is there an Unsubscribe "ALL" trick?

And, rather than looking at a dozen lists -- for one address -- is there a
way to find out (as a SYSTEM ADMIN with Root) what lists an address is
subscribed to???

- -
Presently I'm going list-by-list snooping via the web interface. There has
to be a better way.

Presently, many of our church subscribers are not yet used to opting in and
out of lists on their own. So, I get a message -- please unsubscribe me
(email) from all the lists -- etc. I have little clue as to what list they
might be on now.

Thanks.

Ta.

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[Mailman-Users] first confirmation message editing question HELP

2003-02-11 Thread Mark Loewenberg

 I have set up a list called "city"  through a hosting vendor and I have
been able to reconfigure everything EXCEPT the first autoresponse
message that confirms acceptance to the list!

I need to be able to edit this and am not sure where to find the
template for this message.

the current message the system sends is this:
-

City -- confirmation of subscription -- request 524732

We have received a request from 66.156.18.80 for subscription of your
email address, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing
list.  To confirm the request, please send a message to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], and either:

- maintain the subject line as is (the reply's additional "Re:" is
ok),

- or include the following line - and only the following line - in the
message body:

confirm 524732

(Simply sending a 'reply' to this message should work from most email
interfaces, since that usually leaves the subject line in the right
form.)

If you do not wish to subscribe to this list, please simply disregard
this message.  Send questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-


What I need to do is edit this down to the following...
--

City -- confirmation of subscription -- request 524732

We have received a request to add your email address, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,

to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list.  To confirm the request,
please reply to this message, and either: - maintain the subject line as
it is,
or include the following line - and only the following line - in the
message body:

confirm 524732

If you do not wish to subscribe to this list, please simply disregard
this message.  Send questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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What do I need to do to accomplish this?

Thank you in advance,

Mark
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[Mailman-Users] help with bin/remove_members with 2.09

2003-03-08 Thread Mark Rauterkus


Hi All,

I goofed and nuked the bin/remove_members, in Mailman 2.09. 
(Virtual server with FreeBSD, hosted at Bluehill.com.)

A friend sent me the file for Mailman 2.13. I've put it back into the proper
director, but no luck.

At the telenet:
% virtual bin/remove_members --fromall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
virtual: unable to execute bin/remove_members: No such file or directory

Yet other tools in the /bin work like above, listmembers, find_member, and
so on.

Perhaps the wrong verion matters? Perhaps because the remove_members was
from a Linux install and not a FreeBSD install?

So, if anyone can help, I'd love to use remove_members without needing to
unpack the entire distro.



Ta.


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[Mailman-Users] Update from older versions (newbie will patch)

2003-03-10 Thread Mark Rauterkus


Hi All,

Newbie alter to *nix. 

I'm trying to go from 2.0.9 to more recent versions.

I get the file mailman-2.0.9-2.0.10-diff.txt
I then changed its name to drop the .txt for no reason.

I put it into my:
  /usr/local/mailman/

At TELNET:

% patch -p0 http://Rauterkus.com
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[Mailman-Users] sitewide list

2003-03-12 Thread Mark McEahern

The INSTALL file recommends creating a site-wide list called mailman, but
aside from saying this is where password reminders appear to come from, it
seems short on details as to the purpose of this list.  I apologize if these
questions are answered elsewhere.  I've at least cursorily scanned the
obvious places.

Here are the questions I'm pondering...

1.  When a subscriber to a normal list (i.e., something other than the
sitewide list) subscribes, are they implicitly subscribed to the site-wide
list?

2.  After the step for creating the site-wide list, the INSTALL file says,
"You should then subscribe yourself to the mailman list."  Why?

3.  Is there any reason to display this site-wide list in the list of lists
displayed by listinfo?

4.  Is there any reason to leave the archives public?  (I guess you could
equally ask is there any reason to make them private?)

I'm just trying to understand the purpose of the site-wide list.  Any
pointers would be helpful.

Thanks,

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RE: [Mailman-Users] sitewide list

2003-03-12 Thread Mark McEahern

[Jon Carnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> This list should only be for you and other system/list admins that are
> in charge of the whole Mailman install.  It is for Mailman errors and
> list warnings.

[snip other helpful background information about the site-wide list]

Jon, thanks for the reply.  It seems to me this stuff should be in the
INSTALL file.  Or in some documentation.

Did I miss it?  If it's not written down anywhere, what can I do to help
make that happen?

Thanks,

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RE: [Mailman-Users] sitewide list

2003-03-13 Thread Mark McEahern

[Jon Carnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> You can always send Barry a note and volunteer to do some documentation.
>
> Other than that, you can add an entry into the FAQ
> Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
>
> It's self-service so feel free to add an entry or two!

Done:

  http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq04.025.htp

Please edit/revise because I'm clueless.

Thanks for the pointer to the FAQ.  Useful stuff!

I submitted a bug to sf.net about this:


http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=703287&group_id=103
&atid=100103

It's probably also useful to have a FAQ, but I think it's important to beef
up the section in the INSTALL file, since it seems overly terse.

Cheers,

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[Mailman-Users] configuring mailman with courier

2003-03-12 Thread Mark McEahern

I just spent a considerable amount of time getting Mailman to work with
Courier as the MTA.

I'm sure there's probably more than one way to do it, but here's an outline
of what I did.  I offer this here in the hopes that anyone trying to do this
in the future won't have to pursue all the deadends I did.  ;-)

Courier setup
-

For starters, I'm using authpgsql as the authmodule for Courier.  The domain
where I'm hosting Mailman is one of my hosteddomains.

Mailman
---

I did NOT have to create any accounts for Mailman, local or virtual.  I do
everything with aliases.  That, to me, seems like A Good Thing (tm).  I
would have liked to use a single dot-courier file for each alias instead of
using the intermediate dummy aliases as described below, but I was unable to
get the [EMAIL PROTECTED]:com stuff to work.

After running bin/newlist, I copy the alias information it spits out into a
file (e.g., mylistname-list.aliases).  I then run a Python script on this
file that does this:

1.  Creates a file in /path/to/courier/etc/aliases/ named after the list.  I
name the alias file after the list just to keep each list's aliases separate
and easily identifiable.  In this file, I create intermediate aliases.
Suppose my list is named mailman and the hosted domain is domain.com.  Then
I'd have:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]: mailman1
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: mailman2
...

The right-hand side is a dummy alias.

2.  For each dummy alias, create a dot-courier file in
/path/to/courier/etc/aliasdir/.  E.g.,

aliasdir/.courier-mailman1
aliasdir/.courier-mailman2
...

The contents of each dot-courier file look like this:

|/opt/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman

In other words, the contents of the dot-courier file are the same as the
right-hand side of what bin/newlist spits out for that alias, just without
the quotation marks.

I've attached the actual script below.

Cheers,

// mark

#!/usr/bin/env python

"""
Create the dot-courier files for the aliases listed in the specified file.
"""

import os
import sys
import pwd

class IncorrectUserError(Exception):pass

def require_user(username):
"""Exit if the current user is not username."""
current_username = pwd.getpwuid(os.getuid())[0]
if current_username != username:
template = 'Please run as %s (current user: %s).\n'
message = template % (username, current_username)
raise IncorrectUserError(message)

class Alias(object):

def __init__(self, alias, domain, command, counter):
self.alias = alias
self.domain = domain
self.command = command
self.counter = counter

def get_basename(self):
alias = self.alias
i = alias.find('-')
if i >= 0:
return alias[:i]
else:
return alias

def get_full_alias(self):
return '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' % (self.alias, self.domain)

def get_dummy_alias(self):
return '%s%d' % (self.get_basename(), self.counter)

def main():
program = os.path.basename(sys.argv[0])
usage = 'usage: %s listname filename etcdir [domain]\n' % (program,)
try:
listname = sys.argv[1]
filename = sys.argv[2]
etcdir = sys.argv[3]
except IndexError:
sys.stderr.write(usage)
sys.exit(1)

default_domain = 'yourlistdomain.com'
try:
domain = sys.argv[4]
except IndexError:
domain = default_domain

courier_username = 'courier'
try:
require_user(courier_username)
except IncorrectUserError, e:
message = str(e) + '\n'
sys.stderr.write(message)
sys.exit(2)

if not os.path.isdir(etcdir):
message = 'etcdir %s is not a directory.\n' % etcdir
sys.stderr.write(message)
sys.exit(2)

comment_char = '#'
separator = ':'
quote = '"'
aliases = []
counter = 0
for line in file(filename):
if line.startswith(comment_char):
continue
counter += 1
line = line.strip()
if not line:
continue
alias, command = line.split(separator)
alias = alias.strip()
command = command.strip()
if command.startswith(quote):
command = command[1:]
if command.endswith(quote):
command = command[:-1]
a = Alias(alias, domain, command, counter)
aliases.append(a)

# Write the intermediate aliases to $etcdir/aliases/.
filename = os.path.join(etcdir, 'aliases', listname)
f = file(filename, 'w')
for a in aliases:
f.write('%s: %s\n' % (a.get_full_alias(), a.get_dummy_alias()))
f.close()

# Write the dot-courier file to $etcdir/aliasdir/.
dirname = os.path.j

[Mailman-Users] Knocked out cgi group (gid)

2003-03-20 Thread Mark Gillingham

Yesterday I was trying to change the certificate on my server because the name of the 
server changed. Something I did got me in trouble. Now mailman reports that it is 
expecting gid=48 (apache) but getting gid=502 (webmaster). I double-checked httpd.conf 
to see what group Apache wants and it is "webmaster." I had not changed this. In fact, 
I don't understand what I changed. What's my best course?


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[Mailman-Users] Problem posting to newsgroup - additional info

2003-06-06 Thread Mark LaHaie

Hi,
Some additional info from the  mailman error log re: my earlier email 
noting problem posting to newsgroup from mailman

Mailman ver 2.0.13
running on Verio Virtual Private Server : FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE (vkern) #9
We have a Maillist ( named ' rays_general')  and a Newsgroup (  named " 
General " ) created on the VPS

Error when submitting more than one email at a time to the maillist - 
which has no subscribers - but is configured to post the email to the 
newsgroup.   Usually, one email gets posted, others get lost.

Error below from the mailman error log.

If anyone can assist with any patches, configuration to allow multiple 
emails to arrive at the same time and be processed, please advise,
THANKS!!

Mark L

marklh @ norcoast.com

Error lines from log:

Jun 05 14:17:01 2003 (40280) (ToUsenet) NNTP error for list 
"rays_general": 440 I/O Error - cannot get a temporay posting file
Jun 05 14:17:01 2003 (40280) (ToUsenet) Message-ID: 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Jun 05 14:17:01 2003 qrunner(40280): Traceback (most recent call last):
Jun 05 14:17:01 2003 qrunner(40280):   File 
"/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToUsenet.py", line 60, in process
Jun 05 14:17:01 2003 qrunner(40280): do_child(mlist, msg)
Jun 05 14:17:01 2003 qrunner(40280):   File 
"/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToUsenet.py", line 201, in do_child
Jun 05 14:17:01 2003 qrunner(40280): conn.quit()
Jun 05 14:17:01 2003 qrunner(40280):   File 
"/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/pythonlib/nntplib.py", line 512, in quit
Jun 05 14:17:01 2003 qrunner(40280): resp = self.shortcmd('QUIT')
Jun 05 14:17:01 2003 qrunner(40280):   File 
"/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/pythonlib/nntplib.py", line 210, in shortcmd
Jun 05 14:17:01 2003 qrunner(40280): return self.getresp()
Jun 05 14:17:01 2003 qrunner(40280):   File 
"/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/pythonlib/nntplib.py", line 186, in getresp
Jun 05 14:17:01 2003 qrunner(40280): raise NNTPPermanentError(resp)
Jun 05 14:17:01 2003 qrunner(40280): NNTPPermanentError: 500 Command not 
recognized
Jun 05 14:17:01 2003 qrunner(40276): Traceback (most recent call last):
Jun 05 14:17:01 2003 qrunner(40276):   File 
"/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToUsenet.py", line 60, in process
Jun 05 14:17:01 2003 qrunner(40276): do_child(mlist, msg)
Jun 05 14:17:01 2003 qrunner(40276):   File 
"/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToUsenet.py", line 201, in do_child
Jun 05 14:17:01 2003 qrunner(40276): conn.quit()
Jun 05 14:17:01 2003 qrunner(40276):   File 
"/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/pythonlib/nntplib.py", line 512, in quit
Jun 05 14:17:01 2003 qrunner(40276): resp = self.shortcmd('QUIT')
Jun 05 14:17:01 2003 qrunner(40276):   File 
"/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/pythonlib/nntplib.py", line 210, in shortcmd
Jun 05 14:17:01 2003 qrunner(40276): return self.getresp()
Jun 05 14:17:01 2003 qrunner(40276):   File 
"/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/pythonlib/nntplib.py", line 180, in getresp
Jun 05 14:17:01 2003 qrunner(40276): resp = self.getline()
Jun 05 14:17:01 2003 qrunner(40276):   File 
"/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/pythonlib/nntplib.py", line 172, in getline
Jun 05 14:17:01 2003 qrunner(40276): if not line: raise EOFError
Jun 05 14:17:01 2003 qrunner(40276): EOFError



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[Mailman-Users] problem posting to newsgroups w/ mailman

2003-06-06 Thread Mark LaHaie

Hi,

We experiencing a problem with mailman version 2.0.13 , while using it's 
ability to post to a newsgorup

We are running mailman on a Virtual Private Server at our hosted account 
at Verio.com that is running FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE (VKERN) #9

We have created a newsgroup on our Virtual private server.

We have a mail list created with no users, and have it configured to 
post any email it receives to the newsgroup.

The feature works, EXCEPT when I purposely submit two to three emails to 
the maillist at the same time  ( because this could easily happen in our 
scenario ).

About 75% of the time,  only one of two emails posts to the newsgroup. 
The other times - the 2nd ( and even  3rd) emails do not make it to the 
newsgroup.- and I don't know where they go?

Verio Tech support has watched their logs, and sees the emails arrive, 
and SENDMAIL  hands them to the script that is supposed to submit the 
email to the maillist   - the alias script is: ==>   
"|usr/local/mailman/wrapper post rays_general" ( where ' 
rays_general is the name of the maillist we created ".

I have conducted the test enough times to know the failure occurs the 
majority of the time - but not every time - with no pattern of failure.

I am NOT  knowledgeable in Unix or Mailman, but if this situation is a 
known anomaly that I can fix with any configuration parameters, patches, 
etc.  -

I would REALLY appreciate it as we NEED this feature to be reliable.

I can be reached at:  marklh @ norcoast.com, or markl @ aracnet.com - 
503.693.3109

If someone knows of a script that can be custom written - to post an 
email directly to the newsgroup - and not even use ' mailman' - we can 
contract that work.

Thanks in advance.

Mark L









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Re: [Mailman-Users] Excessive cpu usage

2003-05-29 Thread Mark Dadgar

Arnar Birgisson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm running mailman 2.1 on a linux machine. My problem is that the
> mailman qrunner daemon constantly consumes 65-95% of cpu time. Nothing
> shows up in the logs while this goes on. Any ideas of how to locate the
> fault?

Is there a massively large (like 20+ Meg) piece of email being processed for
the mailman list?  Like from root or something?

- Mark
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[Mailman-Users] HTDIG patches! Arghh!

2003-06-03 Thread Mark Dadgar

Richard Barrett at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I am kicking. I have been publishing and maintaining patches to integrate
> htdig search with MM since MM 2.0.6 and none of the MM support lists use
> the facility. When I asked thru this list how many people used the patches
> I got 3 replies; so obviously not many sites need searchable Mailman archives.
> 
> All users please note that MM 2.1.3 is the last version of MM for which I
> shall be publishing revisions of the #444884 patch. I will make one last
> effort to publish a generic version of the htdig integration patch which
> provides a framework for integrating other search engiones. Then I give up.
> Life is too short to continue pushing this particular rope uphill.

Ai!  No!  Say it isn't so!

These patches are critical for me.  Sigh.

I've said it before (recently) and I'll say it again - these patches should
be integrated into the main Mailman tree.  They are That Good.

Thank you, Richard, for maintaining them as long as you have.

Now, is there any way we can talk you into continuing?  :)

- Mark
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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman python process out of control 2.1.2

2003-06-08 Thread Mark Dadgar

Benjamin Ash at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> It looks like a mailman 2.1.2 process has been running for days, using
> 99% of the cpu.
> 
> I have restarted the mailman qrunner serveral times, but the python
> process jumps up immediately to 99%.
> 
> Any ideas what could be causing this, I am running python 2.2.3, note it
> was doing the same thing under python 2.1.x

When I experienced this, it was because htdig barfed doing it's nightly
thing and cron tried to send 20MB of error messages to the "mailman" mailing
list.  Python spun for hours and hours trying to process that bad boy.

Look and see if you have some massive email queued that mailman is trying to
process.

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[Mailman-Users] Mailman configuration question.

2003-06-18 Thread Mark London

Hi - I have 2 mailing lists.  I want posts from mailing list A to be sent
to mailing list B, both of which only allow postings from subscribers.  The
problem is, I don't want to have to add all the subscribers on mailing list A
to mailing list B.   Is there any way for mailing list B to automatically
allow postings from mailing list A?

The only solution I could find is to configure mailing list A so that in the
outgoing mail, the poster's address is replaced in the header with the address
of the mailing list, and to have this address subscribed to mailing list B. 
This is not ideal, as I want the original poster's address to be somewhere in
the header, preferably in the Reply-To:.  However, there, doesn't seem to be
any way to keep the original Reply-To line, but to change the From: line.  Any
suggestions?  Thanks. -  Mark

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[Mailman-Users] (no subject)

2003-06-21 Thread Mark Symonds


Hello, 

Had mailman working wonderfully here until three days ago, 
when a larger list (just over 2500 users) ceased functioning 
and I noticed the load average was through the roof (usually 
it's very low): 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] exim]# w
  1:24pm  up 387 days,  2:26,  1 user,  load average: 4.21, 4.29, 4.24
USER TTY  FROM  LOGIN@   IDLE   JCPU   PCPU  WHAT
mark pts/0ca1.symonds.net   1:19pm  0.00s  0.28s  0.01s  w
[EMAIL PROTECTED] exim]# ps auxw |grep python
mailman   6751 23.9  2.4 66712 12372 ?   RJun19 534:48 /usr/bin/python -S 
/var/mailman/cron/qrunner
mailman  21895 24.8  2.6 62840 13608 ?   RJun19 404:09 /usr/bin/python -S 
/var/mailman/cron/qrunner
mailman   3114 25.1  9.2 61756 46716 ?   RJun19 258:03 /usr/bin/python -S 
/var/mailman/cron/qrunner
mailman  16755 24.5 11.2 61592 56844 ?   R06:18 104:49 /usr/bin/python -S 
/var/mailman/cron/qrunner
root 25531  0.0  0.1  1716  596 pts/0S13:24   0:00 grep python
[EMAIL PROTECTED] exim]#

...read FAQ 4.19, killed the qrunner processes and removed the 
lockfiles.  Still no joy: 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailman]# w
  4:44am  up 387 days, 17:46,  1 user,  load average: 1.08, 1.07, 1.26
USER TTY  FROM  LOGIN@   IDLE   JCPU   PCPU  WHAT
mark pts/1ca1.symonds.net   4:37am  0.00s  0.24s  0.02s  w
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailman]# ps auxw |grep python
root 11804 96.9 11.3 59256 57492 ?   R03:59  43:54 python ./qrunner

In the logs:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailman]# tail qrunner
Jun 21 06:08:03 2003 (15197) Could not acquire qrunner lock
Jun 21 06:09:02 2003 (15209) Could not acquire qrunner lock
Jun 21 06:10:01 2003 (15217) Could not acquire qrunner lock
Jun 21 06:11:03 2003 (15240) Could not acquire qrunner lock
Jun 21 06:12:02 2003 (15252) Could not acquire qrunner lock
Jun 21 06:13:02 2003 (15265) Could not acquire qrunner lock
Jun 21 06:14:02 2003 (15274) Could not acquire qrunner lock
Jun 21 06:15:02 2003 (15294) Could not acquire qrunner lock
Jun 21 06:16:02 2003 (15307) Could not acquire qrunner lock
Jun 21 06:17:01 2003 (15319) Could not acquire qrunner lock
[...ad infinitum...]

Also during this time: 

* Trying to subscribe via the mailing list web page, upon 
  clicking the "subscribe" button it hangs at the page 
  until the browser times out. 

* Same thing when trying to auth via the admin web page. 

* This is the only broken list on that machine.  The rest
  are functioning normally in all respects. 

* I thought perhaps someone had changed the domain preferences
  for the list?  Checked it with config_list and it is correct.  
  Also ran check_db and check_perms, both report all's OK. 

Exim 4, RedHat 7.0, Mailman 2.0.13.  

Ideas?

Sincerely, 

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[Mailman-Users] Re: qrunner running away

2003-06-22 Thread Mark Symonds


Hello, 

Previously posted problem below has been resolved.  Scrutiny 
of the logs revealed that qrunner was complaining about the
nonexistence of a file in /var/spool/mail/qfiles.  This apparently 
caused qrunner to run in circles, pegging the CPU at 100%. 

There were only a few files in there, so we rm -fr'd
/var/spool/mail/qfiles and voila, all is back to normal.  
Yay!  This was on a RH 7.1 system. 

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- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Symonds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 3:29 AM


> 
> Hello, 
> 
> Had mailman working wonderfully here until three days ago, 
> when a larger list (just over 2500 users) ceased functioning 
> and I noticed the load average was through the roof (usually 
> it's very low): 
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] exim]# w
>   1:24pm  up 387 days,  2:26,  1 user,  load average: 4.21, 4.29, 4.24
> USER     TTY  FROM  LOGIN@   IDLE   JCPU   PCPU  WHAT
> mark pts/0ca1.symonds.net   1:19pm  0.00s  0.28s  0.01s  w
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] exim]# ps auxw |grep python
> mailman   6751 23.9  2.4 66712 12372 ?   RJun19 534:48 /usr/bin/python -S 
> /var/mailman/cron/qrunner
> mailman  21895 24.8  2.6 62840 13608 ?   RJun19 404:09 /usr/bin/python -S 
> /var/mailman/cron/qrunner
> mailman   3114 25.1  9.2 61756 46716 ?   RJun19 258:03 /usr/bin/python -S 
> /var/mailman/cron/qrunner
> mailman  16755 24.5 11.2 61592 56844 ?   R06:18 104:49 /usr/bin/python -S 
> /var/mailman/cron/qrunner
> root 25531  0.0  0.1  1716  596 pts/0S13:24   0:00 grep python
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] exim]#
> 
> ...read FAQ 4.19, killed the qrunner processes and removed the 
> lockfiles.  Still no joy: 
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailman]# w
>   4:44am  up 387 days, 17:46,  1 user,  load average: 1.08, 1.07, 1.26
> USER TTY  FROM  LOGIN@   IDLE   JCPU   PCPU  WHAT
> mark pts/1ca1.symonds.net   4:37am  0.00s  0.24s  0.02s  w
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailman]# ps auxw |grep python
> root 11804 96.9 11.3 59256 57492 ?   R03:59  43:54 python ./qrunner
> 
> In the logs:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailman]# tail qrunner
> Jun 21 06:08:03 2003 (15197) Could not acquire qrunner lock
> Jun 21 06:09:02 2003 (15209) Could not acquire qrunner lock
> Jun 21 06:10:01 2003 (15217) Could not acquire qrunner lock
> Jun 21 06:11:03 2003 (15240) Could not acquire qrunner lock
> Jun 21 06:12:02 2003 (15252) Could not acquire qrunner lock
> Jun 21 06:13:02 2003 (15265) Could not acquire qrunner lock
> Jun 21 06:14:02 2003 (15274) Could not acquire qrunner lock
> Jun 21 06:15:02 2003 (15294) Could not acquire qrunner lock
> Jun 21 06:16:02 2003 (15307) Could not acquire qrunner lock
> Jun 21 06:17:01 2003 (15319) Could not acquire qrunner lock
> [...ad infinitum...]
> 
> Also during this time: 
> 
> * Trying to subscribe via the mailing list web page, upon 
>   clicking the "subscribe" button it hangs at the page 
>   until the browser times out. 
> 
> * Same thing when trying to auth via the admin web page. 
> 
> * This is the only broken list on that machine.  The rest
>   are functioning normally in all respects. 
> 
> * I thought perhaps someone had changed the domain preferences
>   for the list?  Checked it with config_list and it is correct.  
>   Also ran check_db and check_perms, both report all's OK. 
> 
> Exim 4, RedHat 7.0, Mailman 2.0.13.  
> 
> Ideas?
> 
> Sincerely, 
> 
> -- 
> Mark Symonds
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> 


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[Mailman-Users] Mailing list setup

2003-07-21 Thread Mark Haney

I'm a newbie to Mailman and need a bit of help getting my setup
configured properly.  I have finally managed to get to the Admin page,
but at the bottom it has a link for all 'porky.devel.redhat.com' mailing
lists.  I've tried to configure mm_cfg.py to use the DEFAULT_URL_HOST,
DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST values, but I keep getting an error that the host
'www' is undefined.  Where am I supposed to configure that in Mailman?
I have the FQDN's in DNS as well as /etc/hosts, so I know that's not it.
What am I missing?  Any help would be appreciated.

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RE: [Mailman-Users] Mailing list setup

2003-07-21 Thread Mark Haney

Todd wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> Mark Haney wrote:
>> Yeah I know I probably should build it from source, but really it's
>> gonna be a small list and almost no traffic.  I'd much prefer to use
>> the RPM version and be done with it.  I'm having an issue getting
>> qrunner to start.  Here's the message I'm getting:
>> 
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] markh]# /var/mailman/bin/mailmanctl start Traceback
>>   (most recent call last): File "/var/mailman/bin/mailmanctl", line
>>   524, in ? main() File "/var/mailman/bin/mailmanctl", line 319,
>>   in main check_privs() File "/var/mailman/bin/mailmanctl", line
>> 274, in check_privs gid = grp.getgrnam(mm_cfg.MAILMAN_GROUP)[2]
>> KeyError: getgrnam(): name not found
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] markh]#
>> 
>> I've been getting this all day, since I installed Mailman.  Any
>> ideas? I have everything else setup, I think but this is keeping me
>> from actually using the list.
> 
> Yes, that's one of the other deficiencies of the redhat 9 rpm.  You
> can either check the archives for this list and read the bugzilla
> reports about the problems (and solutions) for the redhat 9 rpm, or
> you can install mailman from source and be sure that any problems you
> have are yours and not the redhat mailman packager's.
> 
> At the very least, you should check out the mailman rpm from rawhide
> which is supposed to fix this and the lack of docs problems.  I don't
> use it myself so I can't tell you if it creates new problems or not. 
> Since redhat hasn't released an errata package for mailman (even
> though they clearly know a lot of people can't even get the service
> to start), I'd say they are not very focused on ensuring a bug free
> mailman rpm.  But feel free to suffer through the grief they'll cause
> you.  Just know that you will hear more than a few people here
> recommend that you install from source.
> 
> Please reply to the list so more people can offer solutions and gain
> from anything that's added to the archives. 
> 
> - --
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I apologize, I thought I was replying to the list.  Well, I'll give the
Rawhide version a shot and see what happens.  I'm not against building
from source, but since one RPM is already on there, upgrading it
shouldn't kill anything.  I'll let you know how it goes if you are
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RE: [Mailman-Users] Mailman/Sendmail

2003-07-22 Thread Mark Haney

Jason K. Brandt wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I am having problems getting mailman setup on a server using sendmail
> as the mail server.  This is a Redhat 9 machine, and is pretty much a
> default install, besides the fix for the bug from the default redhat
> install.  So mailman comes up and runs, I can setup lists, but when
> sending to the list nothing appears to happen.  Currently sendmail is
> listening on only the address for mail.rcctech.net, and I setup the
> mailing list on www.rcctech.net  , as well
> as mail.rcctech.net.  when running on mail.rcctech.net, I get an
> unknown user error, and on www.rcctech.net  
> nothing appears to happen at all.  Any ideas? 
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jason
> 
> 
> 
> Jason K. Brandt
> 
> Network Administrator/Consultant
> 
> RCC Technologies
> 
> Phone: 309-693-1985
> 
> Fax: 309-693-3083
> 
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c.us

Are you certain mailman was running?  I have basically the same setup as
you, and I could get to the admin page and setup lists, etc, but was
getting no mail delivered to my test user.  Turns out mailman wasn't
running and I couldn't get it to start.  I eventually scrapped (at 2
this morning) the RPM version and built it from source.  I've not tested
it yet, but I'm hoping to do so later today.

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[Mailman-Users] More madness

2003-07-22 Thread Mark Haney

I caved.  Jason Buscema gave me the answer to the problem with the RPM
version of mailman.  I re-installed it and added the 2 lines to make
mailman know what user/group to use.  Everything is peachy keen.  

I have 2 problems.  First, in the auto-respond message I get when
subscribing as a new user, the confirmation URL is still pointing to
http://porky.redhat., etc.  In the email itself, the reply-to
address is correct.  What's the fix to that?  I have the
DEFAULT_URL_HOST setup in mm_cfg.py.

Second, I receive the subscription emails and confirmation emails
correctly.  But when I post a new message to the list, I don't get the
actual posted message sent back to me.  It's obvious mailman/sendmail is
setup (mostly) correctly, but where's the new message going?  Remember,
I'm a newbie to mailman, so be gentle.  Thanks.


Jesus is coming - look busy!

Mark Haney
Polk County Schools IT Staff/Technical Guru
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[Mailman-Users] Why won't Mailman send mail?

2003-07-22 Thread Mark Haney

Okay, I followed the FAQ on why mailman won't send email to users.  The
big thing I noticed is that in /etc/passwd, the mailman account has a
default shell of /bin/false, is that supposed to be?  Also, there's no
home folder for the mailman user, so I can't check on the cron jobs.
Should I assume that, with no cron jobs running, no mail is going out?  

Aside from that here's a copy of /var/mail/maillog concerning my recent
attempt to send an email to the list, is this any help with figuring out
why I can't get list mail sent?

Jul 22 11:13:31 pcweb sendmail[30892]: h6MFDUrW030892:
from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=822, class=0, nrcpts=1,
msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, proto=ESMTP,
daemon=MTA, relay=bay9-f62.bay9.hotmail.com [64.4.47.62]
Jul 22 11:13:32 pcweb sendmail[30893]: h6MFDUrW030892:
to="|/var/mailman/mail/mailman post weather",
ctladdr=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (8/0), delay=00:00:01,
xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=prog, pri=31032, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent
Jul 22 11:13:34 pcweb sendmail[30895]: h6MFDYrW030895:
from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=1863, class=-30,
nrcpts=1, msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, proto=ESMTP,
daemon=MTA, relay=localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]

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[Mailman-Users] List admin addresses bounce

2003-07-28 Thread Mark Dadgar

I'm using Mailman 2.1.2 (installed from source) and Sendmail (RedHat RPM).
I have the appropriate aliases installed for each list I run (as output by
Mailman during list creation) and things have been peachy keen for a year
now.

However, I just discovered that email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
generates an "unrecognized bounce" every time, for each of my lists.  And
yeah, I tried putting my address in for both list admin and list moderator.

Any ideas?  I did a quick search through the archives and the obvious search
terms returned a couple of zillion results, none of which appeared to answer
my question.

Thanks.

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[Mailman-Users] No documentation for ver 2.1-8?

2003-08-03 Thread Mark Champion

I just installed RH9.0 with mailman v 2.1-8.  I was surprised to see there is zero 
documentation.
rpm -qdf /var/mailman/bin/newlist returns nothing!

I have v 2.0.13 on my RH7.2 system which has a complete directory of documentation in 
/usr/share/doc/mailman-2.0.13, but there is nothing similar for v 2.1-8.

And, I'm having lots of trouble setting it up.  I think I have it setup and working, 
but no messages get sent out - not even to the mail-list administrator.  Can somebody 
point me to any documentation?

Mark

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[Mailman-Users] Mailman Bug?

2003-08-04 Thread Mark Symonds



Hi,

Trying to figure this one out.

Twice now in the past month, a mailing list has
died here.  You cannot login to the administrative
interface and posts go into into a logjam.

>From the logs I see:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailman]# tail error
NotLockedError:

Aug 02 16:38:52 2003 qrunner(28147): Traceback (innermost last):
Aug 02 16:38:52 2003 qrunner(28147):   File "/var/mailman/cron/qrunner", line 283, in ?
Aug 02 16:38:52 2003 qrunner(28147):  kids = main(lock)
Aug 02 16:38:52 2003 qrunner(28147):   File "/var/mailman/cron/qrunner", line 262, in 
main
Aug 02 16:38:52 2003 qrunner(28147):  dequeue(root)
Aug 02 16:38:52 2003 qrunner(28147):   File "/var/mailman/cron/qrunner", line 184, in 
dequeue
Aug 02 16:38:52 2003 qrunner(28147):  os.unlink(root + '.db')
Aug 02 16:38:52 2003 qrunner(28147): OSError :  [Errno 2] No such file or directory:
'/var/spool/mailman/qfiles/bd017b27880b174879a46d4f624c8e2cce1a5399.db'
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailman]#

and

[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailman]# tail qrunner
Aug 02 16:49:02 2003 (28748) Could not acquire qrunner lock
Aug 02 16:50:03 2003 (28820) Could not acquire qrunner lock
Aug 02 16:51:02 2003 (28830) Could not acquire qrunner lock
Aug 02 16:52:02 2003 (28847) Could not acquire qrunner lock
Aug 02 16:53:03 2003 (28905) Could not acquire qrunner lock
Aug 02 16:54:02 2003 (28939) Could not acquire qrunner lock
Aug 02 16:55:04 2003 (29006) Could not acquire qrunner lock
Aug 02 16:56:03 2003 (29123) Could not acquire qrunner lock
Aug 02 16:57:03 2003 (29138) Could not acquire qrunner lock
Aug 02 16:58:02 2003 (29145) Could not acquire qrunner lock
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailman]#

...any ideas?  I've been able to get around it by going into
/var/spool/mailman/qfiles and deleting what's in there.  This
"resets" things, but it also results in a few posts getting lost.

What would cause it to bail like this?  Any other information
you need, let me know and I'll post it.

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[Mailman-Users] What version is recommended for RH9.0?

2003-08-05 Thread Mark Champion

Thanks to several people who helped me get Mailman 2.1-8 installed and working.  
However, I think I prefer v2.0.13 - the version I had under RH7.2.  And, I see the 
current version is 2.1.2.  My question is... What version is recommended by this group?

One important criteria is that I need to move an existing list over from my RH7.2 
system to my new RH9.0 system.  I presume this will be easiest if I'm using the same 
version on both computers.  But, maybe somebody has a suggestion for this?  Can I 
simply copy the contents of some directory over?

Mark


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Hotmail and Yahoo sending mail straight tojunk folders.

2003-08-11 Thread Mark Dadgar

Raquel Rice at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> It seems that hotmail and yahoo are sending mail from mailman
>> straight to junk folders, this is REAL bad, especially because
>> it's possible to delete junk folders without actually looking in
>> them.
>> 
>> Why is this, is this because there is a bulk mail setting in the
>> mail header? If so, how can I stop this being written into the
>> mail?
> 
> Look at the mail headers to see.  Write to the abuse dept. of Yahoo
> and Hotmail to get their responses.

This is very likely because of the mail server the messages originate from
being whitelisted and not from headers in the messages themselves.

Ask me how I know.

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[Mailman-Users] Lines don't wrap in archive?

2003-08-14 Thread Mark Champion

I notice that in the archives, email text lines don't wrap.  Is this a configuration 
issue?  and if so, where can I configure it so it will wrap them?

Thanks!



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[Mailman-Users] Junk mail copied in post approvals

2003-08-14 Thread Mark Adler

Mailmen,

From the change log for 2.1:

When a message is first held for approval, the notification
sent to the list admin is a 3-part multipart/mixed.  The
first part holds the notification message, the second part
hold the original message, and the third part hold a cookie
confirmation message, to which the admin can respond to
approve or discard the message via email.
The consequence of this change since 2.0 is that every single junk mail 
to the list (which is nearly all mail that ends up getting held for 
approval) is copied in its full glory to the list administrator.  This 
particular list administrator experiences the further consequence of 
having to give his junk mail filter mixed messages about trying to not 
mark such email as junk, yet mark other email with the same contents as 
junk mail.  Even ignoring the filter problems, I'd just as soon not 
have all that email copied to me at all.  It would be sufficient to 
send me an email that there is a post awaiting approval without even 
providing the from address or the subject line.  I can always go look 
at the email in its less offensive raw text form on the Mailman 
disposition web page.

So is there a way to turn this off?  Is there an option for this, or 
does the source code need to be modified?

mark

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[Mailman-Users] Moving a mailing list question.

2003-08-29 Thread Mark London

I have mailman installed on node A, under Apache, with lots of mailing 
lists.  I have created an alias for node A named LISTS, and I want 
people to access the mailing lists using the address LISTS rather than 
A.  However, when I access the node using the address LISTS, it tells me 
there are no mailing lists.  I can create new ones when I am connected 
via LISTS, but I don't want to have to recreate all my mailing lists.  I 
just want to move the present ones.  However, from what I can see, both 
mailing lists created under A and under LISTS use the same directories! 
So what's the trick to moving them?  Thanks!



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[Mailman-Users] Problem accessing mailman using alias IP name.

2003-09-02 Thread mark london

If I try to access mailman using an alias IP name, it tells me there 
are no mailing lists (although I can create new mailing lists under 
this alias name).  How can I do this?  Or can I easy move the mailing 
lists to ONLY be accessed from the alias name?  Thanks.

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RE: [Mailman-Users] Deleting Member from All Lists

2003-09-04 Thread Roedel, Mark


>From the command line, you'd want the --fromall option to
remove_members.  (Try a 'remove_members --help' for all the
nittygritty.)

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Subject: [Mailman-Users] Deleting Member from All Lists


Is there a way to delete a member from all lists - preferably from the
web 
interface? If not, can it be done via the command line?

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[Mailman-Users] new mailman site admin with bounce notification questions

2003-09-10 Thread Mark Bixby

Hi mailman-users,

I am a brand new Mailman 2.1.2 site administrator / list owner who has migrated 
one old Majordomo mailing list and plans to create several additional lists.

One of my subscribers of my new Mailman list complained about missing a message 
from Mailman.  I had no idea there was a problem until she complained.  I then 
dug through my sendmail logs and saw that her remote MTA had transiently 
returned a "Service unavailable" status.

I then went into Mailman and looked up the subscriber's info.  Mailman had 
dutifully incremented her bounce count to 1.0.

But I had absolutely no notification of any problems until the subscriber 
complained, and that lack of notification is a big problem for these particular 
mailing lists which are private with a small number of subscribers but feature 
highly time-sensitive content.

For these mailing lists I am willing to have the list owner receive copies of 
all MAILER-DAEMON etc bounce messages.  Yet I cannot find any way in the 
Mailman docs of accomplishing this (unless I have missed something).  If I 
disable automatic bounce processing, the docs say the MAILER-DAEMON messages 
are still discarded, which doesn't help me.

Alternatively I would be happy to have Mailman just send the *first* 
MAILER-DAEMON bounce message for a subscriber to the list owner.

Is there any tweaking I can do to either the automatic bounce processing 
parameters or my aliases file that will get Mailman to promptly tell me when a 
user is having a bounce problem?  Yes, I could set the bounce score threshold 
down to 0, but that's a little extreme since I don't really want the user's 
subscription to be disabled at this point in order just to get a problem 
notification about a bounce situation that would likely be merely transient for 
my particular set of subscribers.

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[Mailman-Users] Some posts are never received by email even though they go right into the archives

2003-09-11 Thread Mark Lohaus

I have been using Mailman successfully for 2 years now.
We are currently having a problem: Not all posts are going though.  They 
are not being held up for any rule violations (like size, sender, 
etc).  All the posts go directly into the archives, but MANY do not get 
sent out as email (but some do).  I just sent a test and it came though 
right away, even though we are still waiting for many others posted earlier 
than that to go though (I am a regular list member--not an admin).  Once 
again, I know these posts are accepted by Mailman because they are in the 
archives.
Can anyone help?

Thanks

Mark Lohaus
Center for Science and Technology Policy Research
1333 Grandview, 488 UCB
Boulder, CO  80309-0488
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[Mailman-Users] How to enable Header and Footer

2003-09-30 Thread Mark Roberts

Is this the correct address for support questions? Otherwise, is there a forum or 
support list that I can post a question to?
My problem is that email posts sent to my mailing lists do not show the header and 
footer in the  received email. I have tried mailing with the default setting in 
non-digest member settings and then with my own text inserted. Is there a switch to 
enable these?
I am using Mailman 2.0.13-1 on Plesk 6.0.1 (I have tried an upgrade to Mailman 2.1 on 
a test system but the Plesk system does not allow this to work) Operating system is 
Redhat 7.3
Can you help?
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Re: [Mailman-Users] MM 2.1.3 version Mailman-htdig integration patches available

2003-09-30 Thread Mark Dadgar

On Tuesday, September 30, 2003, at 01:58 PM, Richard Barrett wrote:
I have uploaded updated files to sourceforge for the following patches 
and bugs I maintain, which include my Mailman-HTdig integration 
patches. You can  reach them through:
[munch]
#444879 - Archive indexer control to improve index

#444884 - Integration of Mailman & htdig for archi
THANK YOU, Richard!

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[Mailman-Users] Mailman puts footer in MIME attachment

2003-10-06 Thread Mark Koek

Hello list,

After I added some lines to the footer of my list run by Mailman 2.1, it 
has started converting the list messages (plain old text only) into 
multipart/mixed MIME messages, with the footer in a separate text/plain 
attachment.

Subscribers are complaining because not all mail clients can handle this 
properly, apparently.

Is there a way to switch off this behaviour? I haven't found anything in 
the web interface.

Mark

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RE: [Mailman-Users] Version of Python?

2003-10-07 Thread Roedel, Mark


Slightly-late response, but since I don't see any others...

I've not had any noticeable problems running Mailman 2.1.2 with Python
2.3.

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The readme's for Mailman 2.1.3 say to use Python 2.2.1 (the latest
version 
when this version of Mailman came out).  But now there's a Python 
2.3.  Does anyone know if Mailman would have a problem with an even
later 
version of Python than existed when 2.1.3 was put together?  Or should I
go 
with Python 2.2.1 to be safe?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Strange problems with IE, Netscape works OK

2002-01-07 Thread Mark Radabaugh




On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Harold Paulson wrote:

> Mark,
> 
> what do your Alias-es look like in your Apache config?
> 
>   - H
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Knew I should have included that :-)


ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ServerName mailman.amplex.net
DocumentRoot /www/mailman
ScriptAlias /mailman/ "/usr/home/mailman/cgi-bin/"
Options FollowSymLinks
Alias /icons/ "/usr/home/mailman/icons/"
Alias /pipermail/ "usr/home/mailman/archives/public/"



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Re: [Mailman-Users] 2.0.8 and Python 2.2?

2002-01-23 Thread Mark Radabaugh

Chuq Von Rospach wrote:
> 
> If I'm upgrading my systems to new releases, is there any reason not to use
> 2.0.8 with Python 2.2? Or should I stick with 2.1.2?
> 
> Any gotchas here?
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I had some strange results with Apache / Python 2.2 and Internet
Explorer.  We moved Mailman to a very similar machine with a pre-2.2
version of Python and the problem went away. I didn't take the time to
find out for sure if it was related to Python or not.

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[Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.0.7

2002-02-02 Thread Mark Balogh


Would you please tell me how much space is required on the server to run
Mailman 2.0.7? Same question for the necessary Python software.

Thanks,
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[Mailman-Users] mysterious bounce

2002-02-02 Thread Mark Fyffe


Hello:

I'm attempting to set up mailman 2.0.8:

Solaris 8
Python 2.1.2
Qmail 1.03

I send a message to a list "developers". Everything seems fine, the
message is received by mailman, gets archived.  There no errors dumped to
syslog or to $prefix/logs/error, nor are any messages reported by qmail
after the message has been delivered to mailman.

The message is not sent back out to the members of the list, and the
following appears in the "bounce" log file:

Feb 01 14:18:02 2002 (26342) Developers: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 1 more
allowed over 430138 secs

Other than this, there is no evidence of the bounce, or even of mailman
trying to send the mail.  Since I get the list owner's info message when
creating the list, I'm convinced that mailman knows how to send mail, but
it doesn't appear to by trying to distribute the message to the list.

The only other log messages to appear anywhere, including syslog, after
mailman has received the mail are:

logs/smtp: Feb 01 14:18:02 2002 (26342) smtp for 1 recips, completed in
0.257 seconds
logs/post: Feb 01 14:18:02 2002 (26342) post to developers from
[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=366, 1 failures

Blah :-)  Any help?

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[Mailman-Users] wrapper seems to not be sgid'ing..

2002-02-12 Thread Mark Ash

Title: wrapper seems to not be sgid'ing..




Am trying to run mailman v2.0.8 with postfix on SuSE v7.2.  Am
getting the error at the bottom of the page.  I've rebuilt, installed
and configured  mailman.  I built it using the correct gid values for
mail and cgi.
I ran the check_perms and when it's set to what it ideally wants,
wrapper is mail.mail  and sgid.
Even if I chgrp postfix wrapper and leave it sgid, I get the same
error.  It's like the sgid is failing.
I can use some help... Everything associated with mailman seems to
be ready, just can't mail to it.  All users that aren't mailing-list
related can send and receive mail just fine.  This seems to be specific
to wrapper not sgid'ing..






Gid	name		Comment
==
51	postfix	mail runs as this
65534	nogroup	web runs as this


Feb 12 11:21:34 thedr postfix/local[5508]: 254ED15E733:
to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=local, delay=0, status=bounced
(Command died with status 2: "/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post
testing". Command output: Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 51,
GOT gid 65534.  (Reconfigure to take 65534?) )

[Mailman-Users] installation question

2002-03-10 Thread Mark Johnson



hello all,

wondering if you can help me, i have checked the FAQ and searched the web
and don't see any answers for this.

i have just installed mailman on to my slackware box with exim as the mta.
it all seemed to go fine, running check_perms works fine, and everything. i
setup a test list and i get the following errors.

* when i post to the list i get the following error:

This message was created automatically by mail delivery software (Exim).

A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Child process of list_transport transport returned 2 from command:
/home/mailman/mail/wrapper

* i can't see the list archives there is no file in the archives/private
directory for the list, but there is a symlink in the archives/public
directory

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Re: [Mailman-Users] installation question

2002-03-11 Thread Mark Johnson


nope, tried that several times and still the same error, i will continue to
fiddle!!


> This generally means that you need to re-install it and add an option to
the
> ./configure command that tells the install what group Exim runs as.
>
> This is explained very thoroughly in the FAQ (see the bottom of this
message).
>
> Jon Carnes
> ===
>  --- Original Message: Sunday 10 March 2002 02:48 pm ---
> > hello all,
> >
> > wondering if you can help me, i have checked the FAQ and searched the
web
> > and don't see any answers for this.
> >
> > i have just installed mailman on to my slackware box with exim as the
mta.
> > it all seemed to go fine, running check_perms works fine, and
everything. i
> > setup a test list and i get the following errors.
> >
> > * when i post to the list i get the following error:
> >
> > This message was created automatically by mail delivery software (Exim).
> >
> > A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
> > recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:
> >
> >   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Child process of list_transport transport returned 2 from command:
> > /home/mailman/mail/wrapper
> >
> > * i can't see the list archives there is no file in the archives/private
> > directory for the list, but there is a symlink in the archives/public
> > directory
> >
> > thanks in advance..
> >
> >
> >
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[Mailman-Users] installation help, pretty please

2002-03-17 Thread Mark Johnson


hi i am strugling in getting mailman to work. i am running it on a slackware
8.0 system with exim 3.34.

the install seemed to go fine, there was a strange message when i setup the
test list, something about "getpass may echo passwords" apart from that its
all goo. i can see the list web pages fine etc.

but, when i try to send mails to the list i get the following:

This message was created automatically by mail delivery software (Exim).

"A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Child process of list_transport transport returned 2 from command:
/home/mailman/mail/wrapper"

i have checked the FAQ several times and see no inspiration there. can
someone point me in the right direction? i have had mailman working a few
months back on another sytem and that was great.

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[Mailman-Users] install woes, please guide

2002-03-17 Thread Mark Johnson





hi i am strugling in getting mailman to work. i am running it on a 
slackware 8.0 system with exim 3.34.
 
the install seemed to go fine, there was a strange message when i setup the 
test list, something about "getpass may echo passwords" apart from that its all 
goo. i can see the list web pages fine etc.
 
but, when i try to send mails to the list i get the following:
 
This message was created automatically by mail delivery software 
(Exim)."A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of 
itsrecipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) 
failed:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]    
Child process of list_transport transport returned 2 from 
command:    /home/mailman/mail/wrapper"
 
i have checked the FAQ several times and see no inspiration there. can 
someone point me in the right direction? i have had mailman working a few months 
back on another sytem and that was great.
 
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[Mailman-Users] missing db files for messages

2002-04-19 Thread Mark Peglow


Hello,

I am running Mailman 2.0.8 on FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE with Python 2.0.1 
and Sendmail 8.11.6.

I have several message file (.msg) with no corresponding .db 
files.  From the logs, it seems that qrunner determined that the db 
files were orphaned and removed them.  Most messages are delivered 
without a problem.

The log entry:

Apr 19 17:08:06 2002 (80652) Unlinking orphaned .db file: 
/usr/local/mailman/qfiles/9ce5400cd779c86b3ae5adc4a73790d618d0163f.db

There are no error messages around this (except that qrunner cannot 
open the db file it just removed).

The message file:

-rw-rw-r--  1 mailnull  mailman  -  7735 Apr 19 17:08 
9ce5400cd779c86b3ae5adc4a73790d618d0163f.msg

The system does get busy from time to time (although I cannot 
correlate the failures to system load), so I am guessing that the 
message starts to get queued up (the database file is written) then 
gets held up writing the message file, during which time qrunner 
starts, finds the .db file and no .msg file, so it removes it.

My questions:

1) Is there a way to regenerate the db files so these stuck 
messages can be delivered?  If so, how?

2) Is there a way to keep this from happening in the future?

Thank you in advance for you help with this.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] missing db files for messages

2002-04-22 Thread Mark Peglow



On Friday, April 19, 2002, at 04:51 PM, Barry A. Warsaw wrote:

>
>>>>>> "MP" == Mark Peglow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> MP> 1) Is there a way to regenerate the db files so these stuck
> MP> messages can be delivered?  If so, how?
>
> Not easily, although you can attempt to resend the messages through
> the system to get them unstuck.

It takes a little time (Have to read the headers to see where the 
message is going, but this worked great, no messages lost.  Thank 
you.

>
> MP> 2) Is there a way to keep this from happening in the future?
>
> Upgrade to MM2.0.10.  This is exactly the situation the last two patch
> releases fixed.

In process.

>
> -Barry

Thank you for the help,
Mark.
>
>
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Not creating users?? (new install question)

2002-05-23 Thread Mark Rauterkus


Hi,

Grant asked:
> What have I missed that allows Mailman to create users??

aliases.

I do this:

On telnet session:
% newlist -o LISTNAME

Then a set of lines like this appears in the telnet window and an output
file is made in the same directory.

- - -  snip starts - - -


## LISTNAME mailing list
## created: 23-May-2002 username
LISTNAME: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/wrapper post LISTNAME"
LISTNAME-admin:   "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner LISTNAME"
LISTNAME-request: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd LISTNAME"
LISTNAME-owner:   LISTNAME-admin

- - -  end snip - - -

Then, that info needs to be put into your sendmail file, "aliases". Then,
you need to run "vnewalises".

Then it should work.

My question for the *nix pros ---
How do you easily patch the contents of the output file (-o) into the
aliases file? The cut and paste is a drag with pico, and the word wrap is a
pain.


Ta.


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[Mailman-Users] Case Matters in http://rauterkus.com/mailman/listinfo

2002-05-28 Thread Mark Rauterkus


Hi All,

The /mailman/listinfo page on my set-up is case sensative --- in the domain
name.

http://rauterkus.com/mailman/listinfoand
http://Rauterkus.Com/mailman/listinfoare different.

Bug or feature? :)

I couldn't find the blasted list of lists -- and then when I did, it was by
mistake, it was hard to find again.

I've never seen a matter of case making a difference within domain name.

Because the domain is my name, I have a habit of making it capitalized. I
did so in all my Mailman forms.


Virtual server, FreeBSD, Mailman = 2.0.9

Ta.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Lists on listinfo page not showing up

2002-05-29 Thread Mark Rauterkus


> Any hint is appreciated.

Watch the capital letters in the domain name. 

http://Rauterkus.Com/mailman/listinfo/ <-- shows lists
http://rauterkus.com/mailman/listinfo/ <-- hides lists

Bug or Feature???



Ta.


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[Mailman-Users] Not creating new mail users

2002-06-21 Thread Mark Gillingham


My fresh rpm installation of Mailman-2.0.11 on a fresh RedHat 7.2
installation does not create new mail users when a new list is created.
For instance for the list "test"  neither
[EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] are valid
email addresses. I checked the symbolic link for wrapper and followed
the README.REDHAT instructions (I may have missed something). 

Please give me a pointer if you can.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Howto solve unknown mailer error withoutrecompiling?

2002-06-27 Thread Mark Gillingham


I installed the RPM for Linux, which worked well out of the box. Then
trouble started after I worked on configurations of Samba and Apache.
Somthing I did caused the GID to change apparently. Being a novice, I'm
not sure what I did but I assume it has to do with Apache. Must I
reinstall from source to solve the problem or is there an Apache setting
that I can change? 

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>>> Jon Carnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 06/23/02 13:52 PM >>>
Last time I talked to the guy doing the Mailman RPM for Mandrake (my 
favorite dist), he said that he was setting it up to work with Postfix. 

You might want to look around and see if there is a specific MDK-rpm for

sendmail.  Or you might want to use Postfix as your MTA.

An other option is to install from source.  Installing from source is
very 
trivial:  You download the source and extract it (tar -xzf ...), change
to 
the directory formed by untarring it and run "./configure" then "make 
install" 

Jon
On Saturday 22 June 2002 11:27 am, David Weisgerber wrote:
> Hi,
> does somebody know how I can do this? The problem is, that I am
running
> Mandrak Linux 8.2 and I installed Mailman from the MDK8.2 CDs but he
has
> this problems... Do I have to reinstall the RPM with setting it to the
> right GID?
>
> The funny is, that I think that the GID is set right ( 12 - mail ) but
it
> wants to have it set to 99 ( unknown ). What can I do ? By the way, I
am
> using sendmail.
>
>- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
> "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner kutro"
> (reason: 2)
> (expanded from: kutro-admin)
>
>- Transcript of session follows -
> Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 99, GOT gid 12.  (Reconfigure to
take
> 12?) 554 5.3.0 unknown mailer error 2
>
> Thanks for help,
> David


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[Mailman-Users] RedHat mm_cfg.py & GIU

2002-06-27 Thread Mark Gillingham


RedHat 7.2, latest Mailman

I changed the group of my www tree and confused Mailman. Can't I force
Mailman to use a different group than it was install with via the
mm_cfg.py config file? The GID that is expected belongs to apache, but
now it see the group ID of webmaster. Changing the www tree back to
apache did not help MM. Must I reinstall to fix this? 

Here's a bit of the mm_cfg.py file:

##
#Here's where we override shipped defaults with settings #
#suitable for the RPM package.   #
MAILMAN_UID = pwd.getpwnam('mailman')[2]
MAILMAN_GID = grp.getgrnam('mailman')[2]


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[Mailman-Users] Turn off password reminders!

2002-07-02 Thread Mark Toomey


Hey folks,

I've just migrated 20 or so lists from Mercury on Netware to Mailman on
Linux. Most things went nominally, but I want to turn off the password
reminders for all of my users.

I've done what I thought would do so in the Admin page under "Send monthly
password reminders or no? Overrides the previous option. " by setting it to
'no' but now the subscribers to the list are getting slammed with password
reminders, (which, they have no idea what they mean, having come from a list
server that did not have such a function).

Can I just mark the /var/mailman/cron/mailpasswds script 000 so it won't
run or will that cause more problems?


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[Mailman-Users] Changing all list subscriber passwords at once?

2002-07-10 Thread Mark Ferlatte


Hi,

Is there any way to change all list subscriber passwords at the same
time?   I have a file of email address/password pairs that I'd like to
import, but the command line tools don't appear to work with passwords.
I'm using Mailman 2.0.11.

Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.

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[Mailman-Users] Web access problems after add_members

2002-07-24 Thread Mark Gillingham


I'm transferring lists from LetterRip to Mailman. In so doing, I needed 
to modify the list to remove names and Mac end of line characters. I did 
so using Excel (remove a column) and then BBedit (save with UNIX eol). I 
have 4 lists to transfer. The first list transfered without error (other 
than some warnings of duplicates). After I added these members to a new 
list, I checked the admin site to see if the members appeared. They did 
(about 7000).

The next list did not go well even though it was smaller. Python 
appeared to freeze during the add_members command. Ctr-C would not stop 
it. After waiting some time, I issued "reboot -n" on the Linux box. I 
checked my mail and did receive notification that members were added to 
the new list. I checked the databases and all of them reported to be 
fine. However, I cannot access the Admin Web pages for the second list 
(I can for the initial one). I can access the 'listinfo' page for all of 
the lists. The browser does not time-out when attempting to access the 
admin list page, but continues to try, seemingly, forever.

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[Mailman-Users] (no subject)

2002-08-13 Thread Mark Paterson


I'm a newbi to mailman and have run into a problem when I try to send mail to my test 
list. I have run through the setup line by line but I get the following error listed 
below. This mail just sits in the mail queue. Has anyone run into this problem before 
or know what I might me doing wrong? I'm running RH7.2 

Thanks in advance,
-Mark



Forcing the attempted delivery of mail with the command /usr/lib/sendmail -v -q ..


Running /var/spool/mqueue/g7DFXPd14087 (sequence 1 of 1)
"|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post nsadmin"... Connecting to prog...
Operating system error

[Mailman-Users] How do I change the name of a mailman list?

2002-08-27 Thread Mark Lohaus


Hi,

I need to change the name of a Mailman list.  Is this possible?

Thanks,

Mark

Mark Lohaus
Webmaster
Center for Science and Technology Policy Research
1333 Grandview, 488 UCB
Boulder, CO  80309-0488
303-735-0493


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[Mailman-Users] Rejected Confirmation Requests

2002-09-09 Thread Mark Gillingham


I fear that some potential list members are unable to get confirmation 
requests  through. I've verified that I can subscribe and unsubscribe 
from 3 of my accounts, but on a fourth (at yahoo) I cannot confirm my 
subscription. Instead, I get the following information in my mallog:

Sep  9 19:31:28 gbf1 sendmail[3672]: g8A0VRx03672: tcpwrappers 
(web20405.mail.yahoo.com, 66.163.169.93) rejection

Sep  9 19:31:28 gbf1 sendmail[3672]: NOQUEUE: web20405.mail.yahoo.com 
[66.163.169.93] did not issue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during connection to 
MTA

How should I set the sendmail configuration to accept these messages? 
Is this hosts.allow or sendmail.cf? I still get confused.

Mark 


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[Mailman-Users] Veiwing Archives Problem

2002-09-18 Thread Mark Hanze


On the home page to Mailman, there is a link:

"To see the collection of prior postings to the list, visit the
Schoolhouse-news Archives."

When I click on the link I get:

Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /pipermail/schoolhouse-news/ on this
server.





Apache/1.3.26 Server at list.ourschool.k12.ny.us Port 80


Everything else works great :)


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[Mailman-Users] message url in footer

2002-09-20 Thread Mark McEahern


It would be great if I could modify the footer of a mailing list to insert
the archive URL of the current message.

Is that easy/possible?

I apologize if this is a FAQ.  I read the FAQ and the wish list and couldn't
find a reference to it.  I also did at least a cursory google search and
couldn't find anything obvious related to this:

  http://www.google.com/search?q=mailman+footer

  http://www.google.com/search?q=mailman+footer+archive

Thanks,

// mark

p.s.  Suggestion:  Put a "last updated" date on the wish list.


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RE: [Mailman-Users] message url in footer

2002-09-21 Thread Mark McEahern


[JC Dill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]]
> Why?  They HAVE the message, why would they want the archive URL?

To refer others to it.  To save a reference to it without saving the message
itself.  Look at the Dr. Dobb's Python URL--e.g.,

  http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2002-September/121334.html

which offers a weekly summary of threads on comp.lang.python.  Actually, the
above reference is interesting because since I've been receiving the Dr.
Dobb's Python URL, this is one of the first NOT to include references to the
messages summarized.

Thanks,

// mark


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[Mailman-Users] 2.0.9 file permission, lock

2002-09-24 Thread Mark Gillingham


I upgraded from RH 7.2 to 7.3 and with it Mailman to 2.0.9. Following
the upgrade I needed to fix file permissions using the Python command
(check_perms -f). I am still getting errors. 

First, the Web interface will not authenticate an administrator or
user. A page is displayed that there is a bug in Mailman 2.0.9.

Second, when I issue a command (e.g., remove_members) I get a lock
error. 

IOError No 28. No space on device.  ...lock.my.domain.x

What shouild be next step me?

Mark

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Re: [Mailman-Users] 2.0.9 file permission, lock

2002-09-24 Thread Mark Gillingham


I'm red (hat) faced. The reason for my trouble is that I am out of drive
space. I misread the drive stats. Now, I should look for space that RH
update used during the upgrade. Is there a doc about this that I
missed?

>>> "Mark Gillingham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 09/24/02 11:12AM >>>
I upgraded from RH 7.2 to 7.3 and with it Mailman to 2.0.9. Following
the upgrade I needed to fix file permissions using the Python command
(check_perms -f). I am still getting errors. 

First, the Web interface will not authenticate an administrator or
user. A page is displayed that there is a bug in Mailman 2.0.9.

Second, when I issue a command (e.g., remove_members) I get a lock
error. 

IOError No 28. No space on device.  ...lock.my.domain.xxxxx

What shouild be next step me?

Mark

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[Mailman-Users] log directories exceed 64K

2002-09-25 Thread Mark Gillingham


Most of the files in /var/log/mailman/ are empty and I don't understand 
why the format is of many directories with numbers (e.g., 
post.5.4.3.2.1). This came to get me this weekend when our local telco 
cut our line and many extra logfiles were created because mail could 
not be sent or received. The number of directories exceed 64K and 
caused my system to stop. Can I erase all of these logs? Why are the 
created in this way? Where can I read about them?

Mark


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[Mailman-Users] Digests mess up attachments

2002-09-27 Thread Mark Lohaus


HI,

Mailman works great but we are having a problem: When users select digests 
and some of the email have attachments, the attachments get garbled (you 
see an ASCII mess with no icons allowing you to open the attachment).  Some 
of the attachment types are Powerpoint, PDF and Word.

When digests are not selected then the individual email come though 
fine.  Is there any way to avoid this problem?

Mark

Mark Lohaus
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[Mailman-Users] Help for a new install on Linux

2002-09-30 Thread Mark Tilden


Ladies & Gents:

I'm new to this, so please forgive me if these questions are basic:

I've installed mailman on my linux box and it seems to be for the most part
working, after some tweaking. I have run into two problems that have me
stumped, however:

1. I created a test list after I installed mailman. Unfortunately, the name
of the list contains spaces. That appears to cause numerous problems,
including for some reason a problem with the administration interface cookie
not working properly. However, the most curious, is that I can't delete the
list. I've tried running the rmlist script, and it appears to work, but the
mail list persists. I've tried putting the name in quotes. Any suggestions?

2. I created a second test list with no spaces in the name. It works better.
However, whenever I send mail to the list server, I get a "loop back" bounce
message from sendmail. Here's the message:

> This is the Postfix program at host gateway.tildens.org.
>
> I'm sorry to have to inform you that the message returned
> below could not be delivered to one or more destinations.
>
> For further assistance, please send mail to 
>
> If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
> delete your own text from the message returned below.
>
>   The Postfix program
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: mail for gateway.tildens.org loops
back to myself

Can someone point me in a direction to fix this? What have I done wrong?

Thank you in advance!
Mark


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[Mailman-Users] Help for a new install on Linux

2002-10-03 Thread Mark Tilden


Ladies & Gents:

I'm new to this, so please forgive me if these questions are basic:

I've installed mailman on my linux box and it seems to be for the most part
working, after some tweaking. I have run into two problems that have me
stumped, however:

1. I created a test list after I installed mailman. Unfortunately, the name
of the list contains spaces. That appears to cause numerous problems,
including for some reason a problem with the administration interface cookie
not working properly. However, the most curious, is that I can't delete the
list. I've tried running the rmlist script, and it appears to work, but the
mail list persists. I've tried putting the name in quotes. Any suggestions?

2. I created a second test list with no spaces in the name. It works better.
However, whenever I send mail to the list server, I get a "loop back" bounce
message from sendmail. Here's the message:

> This is the Postfix program at host gateway.tildens.org.
>
> I'm sorry to have to inform you that the message returned
> below could not be delivered to one or more destinations.
>
> For further assistance, please send mail to 
>
> If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
> delete your own text from the message returned below.
>
>   The Postfix program
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: mail for gateway.tildens.org loops
back to myself

Can someone point me in a direction to fix this? What have I done wrong?

Thank you in advance!
Mark


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