[Mailman-Users] Forbidden Mailman Archive
This seems to be a somewhat common problem, so I've looked at the archives at all the suggestions, tried everything that is recent and nothing has worked. It looks like no archives are actually being created, despite the "yes" option being selected in the list configuration. Thanks for any help. Kevin Nowaczyk I'm running mailman 2.1.18 on debian 8.2 (Jessie) mm_cfg.py has the line DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/' and no value for PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL. messing with these setting seemed to be a 10 year old issue, so I didn't play around with this for fear of breaking something else My apache config: ServerName lists.example.com DocumentRoot /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman ErrorLog /var/log/apache2/lists-error.log CustomLog /var/log/apache2/lists-access.log combined Alias /pipermail/ /var/lib/mailman/archives/public/ Options +FollowSymLinks Order allow,deny Allow from all Alias /images/mailman/ /usr/share/images/mailman/ ScriptAlias /admin /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/admin ScriptAlias /admindb /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/admindb ScriptAlias /confirm /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/confirm ScriptAlias /create /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/create ScriptAlias /edithtml /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/edithtml ScriptAlias /listinfo /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo ScriptAlias /options /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/options ScriptAlias /private /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/private ScriptAlias /rmlist /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/rmlist ScriptAlias /roster /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/roster ScriptAlias /subscribe /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/subscribe ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/ Directory Listing: .: total 16 drwxrwsr-x 4 root list 4096 Sep 9 20:35 . drwxrwsr-x 8 root list 4096 Jul 6 11:55 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 root list0 Sep 9 20:35 list drwxrws--- 8 www-data list 4096 Feb 24 2015 private drwxrwsr-x 2 root list 4096 Sep 9 20:04 public ./private: total 32 drwxrws--- 8 www-data list 4096 Feb 24 2015 . drwxrwsr-x 4 root list 4096 Sep 9 20:35 .. drwxrwsr-x 2 root list 4096 Sep 9 19:40 LISTNAME drwxrwsr-x 2 root list 4096 Feb 14 2014 LISTNAME.mbox drwxrwsr-x 2 root list 4096 Feb 13 2014 mailman drwxrwsr-x 2 root list 4096 Feb 13 2014 mailman.mbox ./private/LISTNAME: total 12 drwxrwsr-x 2 root list 4096 Sep 9 19:40 . drwxrws--- 8 www-data list 4096 Feb 24 2015 .. -rw-rw-r-- 1 root list 493 Feb 14 2014 index.html ./private/LISTNAME.mbox: total 8 drwxrwsr-x 2 root list 4096 Feb 14 2014 . drwxrws--- 8 www-data list 4096 Feb 24 2015 .. ./private/mailman: total 12 drwxrwsr-x 2 root list 4096 Feb 13 2014 . drwxrws--- 8 www-data list 4096 Feb 24 2015 .. -rw-rw-r-- 1 root list 506 Feb 13 2014 index.html ./private/mailman.mbox: total 8 drwxrwsr-x 2 root list 4096 Feb 13 2014 . drwxrws--- 8 www-data list 4096 Feb 24 2015 .. ./public: total 8 drwxrwsr-x 2 root list 4096 Sep 9 20:04 . drwxrwsr-x 4 root list 4096 Sep 9 20:35 .. lrwxrwxrwx 1 root list 42 Feb 14 2014 LISTNAME -> /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/LISTNAME lrwxrwxrwx 1 root list 41 Feb 13 2014 mailman -> /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/mailman -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Forbidden Mailman Archive
Changing this apache configuration allows me to see the archive. The archive only shows one message, one that I posted yesterday. There must have been some other permissions issue which prevented mailman from saving all the previous messages to the archive. Thanks for the help! Kevin Nowaczyk On Thu, 9/10/15, Kevin Nowaczyk wrote: Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Forbidden Mailman Archive To: "Mark Sapiro" Date: Thursday, September 10, 2015, 7:23 AM Changing this apache configuration allows me to see the archive. The archive only shows one message, one that I posted yesterday. There must have been some other permissions issue which prevented mailman from saving all the previous messages to the archive. Thanks for the help! Kevin Nowaczyk On Thu, 9/10/15, Mark Sapiro wrote: Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Forbidden Mailman Archive To: mailman-users@python.org Date: Thursday, September 10, 2015, 3:22 AM On 09/09/2015 01:44 PM, Kevin Nowaczyk via Mailman-Users wrote: > This seems to be a somewhat common problem, so I've looked at the archives at all the suggestions, tried everything that is recent and nothing has worked. It looks like no archives are actually being created, despite the "yes" option being selected in the list configuration. My previous reply assumed that there had been successful posts to the list that weren't archived, but the "Forbidden" in the subject may imply that there have been no posts, but you are getting a 403 Forbidden status from apache when attempting to go to the archives. If this is the issue, the problem is probably that you have apache 2.4 and this > Alias /pipermail/ /var/lib/mailman/archives/public/ > > Options +FollowSymLinks > Order allow,deny > Allow from all > needs to be Alias /pipermail/ /var/lib/mailman/archives/public/ Options +FollowSymLinks Require all granted If that isn't the answer, but the issue is 403 Forbidden, what's in /var/log/apache2/lists-error.log? -- Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/beakerboy99%40yahoo.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Mailing List Bounce Problems
Hey everyone. The mailing list archive issue that I was inquiring about is a pretty low-volume list. When looking into the archive problem, i saw there were some messages listed in /var/lib/mailman/logs/post that I never received. When looking at the member list, most of my list members were no longer receiving emails due to excessive bounces. I have it set to notify the admin (my gmail account) when a user is disabled, but I've never received a notification. I enabled notification when a message I send to the list is sent out, and I receive that notification, but nobody receives the message. Admin emails from mailman go through just fine, but any message posted to the list does not. I have an IMAP email account on the same server which hosts the mailman instance, and it seems to get all my test messages that I post just fine, but all yahoo, windstream, gmail, etc get bounced. an example line from the /var/log/mail.info file is: Sep 10 12:49:21 bunsen postfix/smtp[4616]: 0DF621C375: to=, relay=mail-tester.com[94.23.206.89]:25, delay=2.6, delays=0.03/0.07/0.86/1.6, dsn=5.0.0, status=bounced (host mail-tester.com[94.23.206.89] said: 550 Message Contains SUSPECT Content :: Please contact ab...@fortressitx.com for further information. (in reply to end of DATA command)) I've been using the services at mail-tester.com to ensure that my domain keys, DMARC, and SPF are all set well. You can see those results here (http://www.mail-tester.com/web-p6036H). I deleted the entire mailing list after exporting the 114 email address, and remade the list, and it behaves the same. The odd thing is, I have another mailing list on the same server with only 6 members, and it seems to be working fine! Any clue where to look? I've contacted ab...@fortressitx.com and received no reply. Thanks, Kevin Nowaczyk -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] DMARC and gmail
I've recently been hearing that some subscribers to a club mailing list who use gmail are having all messages pushed to their spam folder. One user said it's only an issue when the sender is a gmail user as well. I'm running mailman 2.1.23 and had dmarc_moderation_action set to the default value..which I think was Accept. I recently changed it to "Munge From". The dmarc_quarantine_moderation_action is set to yes, and dmarc_none_moderation_action is No. When using the old settings gmail listed messgaes as: SPF PASS, DKIM "Neutral with domain null", and DMARC FAIL, but when a non-gmail user sent a message the DMARC was not listed. After changing to "Munge From" it still has a DMARC fail. What are the differences that I should be seeing after changing the dmarc_moderation_action? Here is an authentication header of a message from a gmail user to a gmail user. ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; dkim=neutral (body hash did not verify) header.i=@gmail.com header.b=dAmiQOEo; spf=pass (google.com: domain of bockbrew-boun...@lists.bockbrew.com designates 65.181.121.110 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=bockbrew-boun...@lists.bockbrew.com; dmarc=fail (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Thanks for any help,Kevin Nowaczyk -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] mailman is receiving, but not forwarding emails.
I performed a massive debian update last week, which included a postfix update. Mailman may have updated too (it is currently 2.1.26). All other mail services on my server appear to still work (Drupal password resets, Roundcube webmail send/receive, virtual mailbox forwarding), but mailman is no longer sending out messages. The mailman archives are showing any messages that are sent to the list, but users are not receiving a copy. The mailman log files are suspiciously empty. The vet file does show where I tried to message a list I am not a member to, but nothing about the numerous times posting to a list that I am a member to, which is in the archive. here is a typical log message: May 5 11:55:12 bunsen postfix/smtpd[3101]: 3876038119: client=mail-qt0-f177.google.com[209.85.216.177] May 5 11:55:12 bunsen postfix/cleanup[28458]: 3876038119: message-id= May 5 11:55:12 bunsen opendkim[557]: 3876038119: mail-qt0-f177.google.com [209.85.216.177] not internal May 5 11:55:12 bunsen opendkim[557]: 3876038119: not authenticated May 5 11:55:12 bunsen opendkim[557]: 3876038119: DKIM verification successful May 5 11:55:12 bunsen opendkim[557]: 3876038119: s=google d=google-hosted-domain SSL May 5 11:55:12 bunsen postfix/qmgr[4308]: 3876038119: from=, size=2305, nrcpt=1 (queue active) May 5 11:55:12 bunsen postfix/local[27003]: 3876038119: to=, orig_to=, relay=local, delay=0.3, delays=0.16/0/0/0.14, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: /var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post listname) May 5 11:55:12 bunsen postfix/qmgr[4308]: 3876038119: removed Thanks for any help,Kevin Nowaczyk -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
