[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

2020-08-28 Thread Jonathan M
On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 2:37 PM Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
 wrote:
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> A couple of days ago, over on the MAILOP mailinglist, there was a long
> thread titled 'Mailman confirmation email denial of service'.  This
> detailed some of the problems we've all seen with Mailman subscription
> spam.  The Mailman team has addressed a lot of these problems with
> ReCAPTCHA support and additional configuration options.  Arguably the
> best solution has been the ReCAPTCHA integration.  BUT, a lot of people
> don't like the Google tie-ins that come with ReCAPTCHA.


The person describing the problem in that thread had not set
SUBSCRIBE_FORM_SECRET, and someone with apparently the same problem
described it as "actually filling it correctly (password,
confirmation...) and, as shown below, without even fetching the page
containing the form first". I may well have misunderstood it, and
apologise in advance if I have, but it seems that the problem in
question could have been avoided using an existing feature of Mailman
2.

(It would be ideal if Mailman 2 could be developed until the same set
of people who installed it can install Mailman 3, but I don't know how
realistic that is. I installed MM2 on a shared server, with no real
expertise and at no extra cost, but have been told I would need to pay
for a dedicated server to install MM3. I will probably move to MM3
mainly for its email-from-web feature, but pay to have the list hosted
for me on a subdomain.)

Best wishes

Jonathan
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[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

2020-09-16 Thread Jonathan M

> On 16 Sep 2020, at 07:07, Barry Warsaw  wrote:
> 
> I think that will be pretty challenging actually.  At least, it was when I 
> did it years ago.  And unless you’re *really* careful to avoid the temptation 
> to “fix" things along the way, you’ll probably end up with something not too 
> far away from Mailman 3. ;)   But hey, it’ll definitely be fun.


What would be fun is a “Mailman 2 lookalike” Python 3 user interface for 
Mailman 3, complete with Times New Roman and Courier.

An easier-to-install interface could open up Mailman 3 to the old audience. 

Best wishes

Jonathan  

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[Mailman-Users] Using Mailgun with Mailman

2020-12-06 Thread Jonathan M
I run Mailman 2 on a shared server. Over the years I’ve had occasional 
deliverability problems owing to spam from other users. In the long run I hope 
to migrate to Mailman 3, on a Digital Ocean droplet or similar. In the 
meantime, I’m looking at maybe using an email sending service.

Is it possible to use Mailgun (or alternative services) with Mailman 2/3? 
Mailgun does its own bounce processing and I wonder how that might tie in with 
Mailman’s.

If it is possible, in what circumstances (if any) is it advisable?

Thanks for any advice.

Best wishes

Jonathan

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[Mailman-Users] Re: Using Mailgun with Mailman

2020-12-07 Thread Jonathan M

> On 7 Dec 2020, at 14:44, Stephen J. Turnbull 
>  wrote:
> 
> However, it's *possible*
> that Mailgun allows you to set it to something different so you can do
> your own processing.  You'd have to check Mailgun docs or ask Mailgun
> about that.


I’ve asked and will report back.

Mailgun does have webhooks including “permanent_fail”: 
https://documentation.mailgun.com/en/latest/api-webhooks.html#webhooks

More generally, does anyone in the Mailman world have an opinion on Mailgun and 
similar services? 

Thank you 

Jonathan 


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[Mailman-Users] Re: Using Mailgun with Mailman

2020-12-08 Thread Jonathan M
On 7 Dec 2020, at 00:40, Mark Sapiro  wrote:
> 
> Mailman's bounce processing relies on the envelope sender being the
> LISTNAME-bounces address (possibly VERPed. If MailGun does bounce
> processing, it presumably sends the mail with its own envelope sender
> which would preclude Mailman's bounce processing


I quoted your paragraph above and asked “Does that sound right?” The response 
the sales rep forwarded me from his support team is: “I'm not sure what they 
are asking. Yes, we do rewrite the mail-from in order to capture 
delayed-bounces.”

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Jonathan 
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[Mailman-Users] Re: Censorship

2021-03-21 Thread Jonathan M


> On 21 Mar 2021, at 17:09, Vako Nicolian  wrote:
> 
> I would like to censor terms or words in emails, is there a way to do so? 


You could use Privacy Options... Spam Filters. 

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Jonathan 
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[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2 settings to minimise bounces

2021-05-09 Thread Jonathan M
jonathan.mailing.lists@gmail.com wrote:
> Just on the topic of Digest emails, I got this bounce today. Is it because of 
> the From: and To: fields or a more fundamental problem?

I realise now that every email (regular and digest) on my lists is currently 
sent From: and To: email addresses on the list domain... Out of the frying pan 
into the fire? :-)

Jonathan
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