[Mailman-Users] Disregard: Re: MTA config error: non-local users not able to access lists via email.

2003-10-15 Thread Eric
I added 'mailertable' to /etc/mail and did a ./mailmanctl restart
and everything is fine now. Thanks anyway!
Eric



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Subject: MTA config error: non-local users not able to access lists via email.
Date: Wednesday 15 October 2003 02:56 pm
From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I've installed and configured Mailman. I can create
and use the lists without problems, but the
lists only work for local users. Any remote users
try to join a list via email, and the email request
is "missing in action," and the request is never
processed. I've checked the FAQ's and read
through most of the configuration files to no avail.
Please help me to get sendmail configured.
Thanks!

P.S. Also, as an added bonus, when I tried to
subscribe to a list from my remote email account,
sendmail apparently didn't recognize my aliases in
/etc/mail/aliases and mistook it for a relay. I've included
that output below, maybe it'll help.
Thanks!

mailman-2.1.1
sendmail 8.12.9

Installed mailman from ports. FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE.

>  Final-Recipient: rfc822;[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Action: failed
>  Status: 5.7.1
>  Diagnostic-Code: smtp;550 5.7.1
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>  Relaying denied

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[Mailman-Users] MTA config error: non-local users not able to access lists via email.

2003-10-16 Thread Eric
I've installed and configured Mailman. I can create
and use the lists without problems, but the
lists only work for local users. Any remote users
try to join a list via email, and the email request
is "missing in action," and the request is never
processed. I've checked the FAQ's and read
through most of the configuration files to no avail.
Please help me to get sendmail configured. 
Thanks!

P.S. Also, as an added bonus, when I tried to
subscribe to a list from my remote email account,
sendmail apparently didn't recognize my aliases in
/etc/mail/aliases and mistook it for a relay. I've included
that output below, maybe it'll help.
Thanks!

mailman-2.1.1
sendmail 8.12.9

Installed mailman from ports. FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE.


>  Final-Recipient: rfc822;[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Action: failed
>  Status: 5.7.1
>  Diagnostic-Code: smtp;550 5.7.1 
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>  Relaying denied



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[Mailman-Users] unsubscribe

2003-10-17 Thread Eric
unsubscribe


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[Mailman-Users] List archives available for anyone

2003-10-18 Thread Eric
Hi, I've got my preferences set for
view archives by "list members only."
But, with no cookies in my browser,
I'm able to just go right to /pipermail/listname
and it's freely visible. What is wrong with
my configuration?
Thanks!


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Re: [Mailman-Users] List archives available for anyone

2003-10-18 Thread Eric
Richard,

   I checked through your email, and everything
else was as you say it should be. But I mistakenly
was thinking that I make the list private on the web
by going to the "Privacy options" webpage instead of the 
"Archiving Options" page. The symlinks were indeed
removed once I set it to private.
Thanks!
Eric

On Saturday 18 October 2003 12:49 pm, you wrote:
> You do not say which version of MM you are running; assuming 2.0.13 or
> 2.1.x ...
>
> On Saturday, October 18, 2003, at 05:12  pm, Eric wrote:
> > Hi, I've got my preferences set for
> > view archives by "list members only."
>
> By this, do you mean you have set the list archive to 'private' using
> the web admin GUI for the list?
>
> if so there should NOT be symlinks in directory $prefix/archive/public/
> called  and  pointing to real directories in
> directory $prefix/archive/private/
>
> If there are, and you are sure you have set the archive to 'private'
> through the admin GUI, then delete those symlinks. You should be able
> to set the list archive to 'public' and see the symlinks created and
> then deleted when you set the archive back to 'private'.
>
> If that is not happening then something is going wrong. Check you error
> logs and repost to this list if you cannot spot any reason for the
> problem.
>
> > But, with no cookies in my browser,
> > I'm able to just go right to /pipermail/listname
> > and it's freely visible. What is wrong with
> > my configuration?
>
> What Alias and ScriptAlias did you set up in your Apache httpd.conf to
> support Mailman?
>
> The /pipermail/ Alias should be pointing to the $prefix/archive/public/
> directory.
>
> Your httpd.conf should not provide access to $prefix/archive/private/
> directory.
>
> If the above is all correct it is difficult how Apache is serving the
> pages via the /pipermail/ URI path.
>
> Is it possible that what you are seeing is just some artifact of the
> accesses being via some caching proxy server or indeeed via your
> browser's cache; could the pages be out of the browser cache or the
> proxy cache rather than being from the MM Apache server?
> ---
> Richard Barrett   http://www.openinfo.co.uk


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[Mailman-Users] Can I use my ISP's SMTP server?

2006-01-03 Thread Eric
Hello all, I've recently upgraded to mailman-2.1.6 from an older version.
I currently host lists via a dynamic IP address, and because of reverse
DNS lookup, many IPS's will not accept mail from my server because
it is a dynamic IP. Is there any way to configure mailman to use my
ISP's mail server instead of my own sendmail smtp MTA?
Thanks!
Eric

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[Mailman-Users] IncomingRunner absent

2017-09-03 Thread Eric
My IncomingRunner is absent and I do not know why. Messages just sit in
~mailman/qfiles/in.

 

/mailman# ps auxww | egrep 'p[y]thon'

root  5686  0.0  0.2 265576  5380 ?Sl   Aug08   8:53
/usr/bin/python /usr/bin/fail2ban-server -b -s
/var/run/fail2ban/fail2ban.sock -p /var/run/fail2ban/fail2ban.pid

list 10721  0.0  0.0  54932   500 ?SAug30   0:37
/usr/bin/python /var/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=BounceRunner:0:1 -s

list 10722  0.0  0.0  54924   624 ?SAug30   0:00
/usr/bin/python /var/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=RetryRunner:0:1 -s

list 10723  0.0  0.0  92584   696 ?SAug30   0:41
/usr/bin/python /var/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=OutgoingRunner:0:1 -s

list 10724  0.0  0.0  54940   448 ?SAug30   0:37
/usr/bin/python /var/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=CommandRunner:0:1 -s

list 10725  0.0  0.0  54908   448 ?SAug30   0:36
/usr/bin/python /var/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=ArchRunner:0:1 -s

list 10726  0.0  0.0  54888   448 ?SAug30   0:33
/usr/bin/python /var/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=NewsRunner:0:1 -s

list 10732  0.0  0.0  56556   476 ?SAug30   1:23
/usr/bin/python /var/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=VirginRunner:0:1 -s

list 22691  0.0  0.0  63428 4 ?Ss   Aug15   0:00
/usr/bin/python /usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl -q start

 

How can this be and what do I need to do to fix it?

 

Eric

 

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[Mailman-Users] finding list members

2003-01-22 Thread Eric Luhrs

My organization uses Mailman to manage approximately 40 mailing lists, with
up to 1000 members each.  Occasionally I receive email from a user who is
getting duplicate messages which have been sent to multiple lists.  Is
there a unix-based command that will tell me which lists contain a given
email address?  I know I can dump addresses from a list, but this isn't
efficient since we have so many of them.  I'd rather search all of the
lists for the needed patern.  Any pointers will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in Advance,

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[Mailman-Users] Deleting Archive

2003-03-20 Thread Eric Pittman
I am running 2.0.13 and I am having trouble deleting the archives. If I remove all the 
entries out of (I will use "test" as the name of my list) test.mbox and then run 
"arch" the archive still contains the entry. How do I purge this archive?




I 
am running 2.0.13 and I am having trouble deleting the archives. If I remove all 
the entries out of (I will use "test" as the name of my list) test.mbox and then 
run "arch" the archive still contains the entry. How do I purge this 
archive?
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[Mailman-Users] Slow Performance on Mailman, Next Steps?

2003-06-20 Thread Eric Miller
Dear all,

We moved our mailman list over from yahoo to my server this
week.  No a painless move but it went OK.
(This is some pretty good software!)

My big issue is performance.  Our list has 2300 subscribers and
we do about 20 to 50 e-mails a day, nothing too big.

Messages were taking 3 to 4 hours to be sent.  I went through
the FAQ on performance and have done the following to get down
to 30 to 90 minutes:

1: Put in a DNS server on my machine with caching (pdnsd)
2: Used the following mailman settings: 
DELIVERY_MODULE = 'SMTPDirect'
SMTP_MAX_RCPTS = 3
SMTP_MAX_SESSIONS_PER_CONNECTION = 100
3: Turned off the logging

Some other facts:

a: I'm running RedHat 9 Linux
b: We are getting lots of bounces: 258 have been put on hold because they
   went over their bounce score
c: I'm using a 2+GHz AMD machine.  Lots of horse power and it seems like
   I'm not using much.  CPU is sitting at between 5% and 10%


So, my obvious questions are:

I: Any suggestions on my mm_cfg.py settings?
II: Anything else you can recommend?
III: My assumption is that since I'm using SMTPDirect it doesn't
 matter if I use the default stuff that comes with Redhat or
 should I load something better?
IV: Is it the bounces that are my problem?

Thank you in advance for any advice!

Eric


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RE: [Mailman-Users] Slow Performance on Mailman, Next Steps?

2003-06-21 Thread Eric Miller
Dear all,

I changed my SMTP_MAX_RCPTS to 500 as suggested.  Now I'm averaging 20
minutes
and as fast as 10.  

I suspect my firewall is a problem.  It is issuing warnings about being
overwhelmed.
In that I've been away from Unix for almost 7 years now and I'm new to
Linux, I really
don't know what tools I could use to find my bottleneck.  Any suggestions?

Eric

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-Original Message-
From: Eric Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 11:45 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Slow Performance on Mailman, Next Steps?


Dear all,

We moved our mailman list over from yahoo to my server this
week.  No a painless move but it went OK.
(This is some pretty good software!)

My big issue is performance.  Our list has 2300 subscribers and
we do about 20 to 50 e-mails a day, nothing too big.

Messages were taking 3 to 4 hours to be sent.  I went through
the FAQ on performance and have done the following to get down
to 30 to 90 minutes:

1: Put in a DNS server on my machine with caching (pdnsd)
2: Used the following mailman settings: 
DELIVERY_MODULE = 'SMTPDirect'
SMTP_MAX_RCPTS = 3
SMTP_MAX_SESSIONS_PER_CONNECTION = 100
3: Turned off the logging

Some other facts:

a: I'm running RedHat 9 Linux
b: We are getting lots of bounces: 258 have been put on hold because they
   went over their bounce score
c: I'm using a 2+GHz AMD machine.  Lots of horse power and it seems like
   I'm not using much.  CPU is sitting at between 5% and 10%


So, my obvious questions are:

I: Any suggestions on my mm_cfg.py settings?
II: Anything else you can recommend?
III: My assumption is that since I'm using SMTPDirect it doesn't
 matter if I use the default stuff that comes with Redhat or
 should I load something better?
IV: Is it the bounces that are my problem?

Thank you in advance for any advice!

Eric


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[Mailman-Users] Return to performance

2003-07-09 Thread Eric Miller
Dear all,

In my last post on performance you gave me a lot of good advice.
Some things that helped:
  Set SMTP_MAX_RCTPS back to default of 500 (I found a posting
   that said 3 to 5 was better, must have been an old version)
  Upped my RAM to 1.5 GB
  Rearranged how the machine saw the internet so my firewall was
less of a choke on flow.

I implemented all that I could and my send times are now down
to from 5 to 30 minutes.  I'd like to see better.

Some facts on my setup:

OS: Redhat 9
Mailman Version: 2.1
Hardware: 2.5 Mhz Athlon
Drive: Single 40 GB 
MTA: sendmail (default with Redhat) (SMTPDirect)
DNS Helper: pdnsd
Network Connection: Full T1 from Sprint 
Usage: Average 12 Messages a Day, 8 in a four hour window from 6AM to 10AM
   Pacific Standard Time  
Subscriber: Around 2000, around 1/2 overseas


When I check times I look at the time from when Mailman received
the message till it shows up on my company mailserver (different machines on
two different networks)

99.9% of my recipients are outside my LAN

I am looking at disk utilization and see if that is hurting me as well.

Something else that puzzles me is that some of the recipients seem to have
very slow mail receivers, especially in India and China.  Is there a way
to find slow connections and group them together so they don't slow down
everyone else?

Thank you in advance for any and all advice!  As I said earlier, this
really is a very cool piece of software.  I just want to make sure I am
getting the most out of it.

Thanks

Eric



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[Mailman-Users] Problems with list server bounces going throughnews gateway

2003-07-09 Thread Eric McDonald
Hi everyone:

I have a list server that's tied to a news server through the gateway,
specifically soc.nonprofit.org

When someone posts a message to the newsgroup, it gets forwarded to the
nonprofit list server that I maintain, but if one of the users on the
listserver has the mail bounced back, and then it's approved by the
administrator, then the bounce goes all the way back to the original
poster on the newsgroup (not the whole newsgroup itself).

Is there any way to make list server bounces transparent to those who
are posting to the newsgroup?

Thanks in advance,

Eric McDonald
Systems Admin, RAIN Network


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RE: [Mailman-Users] Return to performance

2003-07-09 Thread Eric Miller
Thank you all for the suggestions and references.
I made some quick changes, especially the

O Timeout.iconnect=5s

sendmail option seemed to really help. I'm down to 4 to 10 minutes
with most messages at 6.

One question:  Should I be looking at a better MTA?
What is the fastest that works with RedHat 9?
(I guess that is two questions...)

Thanks!

Eric

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From: Brad Knowles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 2:19 PM
To: Eric Miller
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Return to performance


At 8:36 AM -0700 2003/07/09, Eric Miller wrote:

>  Something else that puzzles me is that some of the recipients seem to
have
>  very slow mail receivers, especially in India and China.  Is there a way
>  to find slow connections and group them together so they don't slow down
>  everyone else?

For MTA performance tuning issues (especially sendmail), see my 
paper <http://www.shub-internet.org/brad/papers/sendmail-tuning/>, 
Nick's paper <http://www.jetcafe.org/npc/doc/performance_tuning.pdf>, 
and and Nick's book <http://www.jetcafe.org/npc/book/sendmail/>.

For issues with regards to tuning the performance of mailing 
lists in specific as opposed to MTAs in general, see 
<http://www.usenix.org/publications/library/proceedings/lisa97/21.kolstad.ht
ml> 
and 
<http://www.usenix.org/publications/library/proceedings/lisa98/chalup.html>.

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[Mailman-Users] RE: Problems with list server bounces going throughnews gateway

2003-07-10 Thread Eric McDonald
Second request--Anybody have some insight on this one?

Eric McDonald
Systems Admin, RAIN Network

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From: Eric McDonald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:44 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Cc: 'Kasey Minnis'
Subject: Problems with list server bounces going through news gateway


Hi everyone:

I have a list server that's tied to a news server through the gateway,
specifically soc.nonprofit.org

When someone posts a message to the newsgroup, it gets forwarded to the
nonprofit list server that I maintain, but if one of the users on the
listserver has the mail bounced back, and then it's approved by the
administrator, then the bounce goes all the way back to the original
poster on the newsgroup (not the whole newsgroup itself).

Is there any way to make list server bounces transparent to those who
are posting to the newsgroup?

Thanks in advance,

Eric McDonald
Systems Admin, RAIN Network


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[Mailman-Users] list server bounces going through news gateway

2003-07-11 Thread Eric McDonald
Hi everyone:

I have a list server that's tied to a news server through the gateway,
specifically soc.nonprofit.org

When someone posts a message to the newsgroup, it gets forwarded to the
nonprofit list server that I maintain, but if one of the users on the
listserver has the mail bounced back, and then it's approved by the
administrator, then the bounce goes all the way back to the original
poster on the newsgroup (not the whole newsgroup itself).

Is there any way to make list server bounces transparent to those who
are posting to the newsgroup?

Thanks in advance,

Eric McDonald
Systems Admin, RAIN Network


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[Mailman-Users] One more time--list server bounces going throughnews gateway

2003-07-14 Thread Eric McDonald


I've posted this several times now.  Am I asking the wrong question, not
providing enough information, or?  It seems that even the most simple of
questions are being answered, and I don't understand why this might be
off-topic.

*

Hi everyone:

I have a list server that's tied to a news server through the gateway,
specifically soc.nonprofit.org

When someone posts a message to the newsgroup, it gets forwarded to the
nonprofit list server that I maintain, but if one of the users on the
listserver has the mail bounced back, and then it's approved by the
administrator, then the bounce goes all the way back to the original
poster on the newsgroup (not the whole newsgroup itself).

Is there any way to make list server bounces transparent to those who
are posting to the newsgroup?

Thanks in advance,

Eric McDonald
Systems Admin, RAIN Network


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[Mailman-Users] (no subject)

2003-09-21 Thread Eric DUVAL
Hy,

I like make a configuration :

One MailMan server
One Sendmail server
One Apache server

(I have Sendmail and Apache server.)

Where can I find a HOWTO MailMan-NFS or MailMan- ?
I have need an experiance on this subject.

Regards.

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[Mailman-Users] mailman installation confusion

2003-10-10 Thread Eric Evans
Hi,

I hope that someone out there will be able to offer me some guidance.  I'm 
trying to install mailman on a Solaris machine, with apache, and I'm 
tremendously confused.  To begin with, what would you recommend as 
appropriate values to use for the configuration options --with-mail-gid and 
--with-cgi-gid?  I have tried every conceivable combination of group ids 
with these options and so far nothing I've tried works.  I keep getting the 
"Internal Server Error" screen when I try to start up the administrator 
webpage for my list.  What do most mailman administrators use for these 
options?

Thanks,
Eric
  

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[Mailman-Users] Mailman and Darwin and SMRSH, Oh My

2002-01-24 Thread Eric France

I've got mailman 2.0.8 up and stumbling on a Mac OS X (10.1)
box.  Along the way, I ran into the smrsh problems that
others have been reporting to this list.  The problem appears
to be that smrsh is "dotcatenating" the wrapper arguments to 
the name of the wrapper executable before searching the 
authorized directory.  So, for a list named "mylist", when 
a message arrives, it looks for /usr/adm/sm.bin/wrapper.post.mylist
 -- and fails when it can't find it.

My ugly workaround is to satisfy it by creating a shellscript in
the sm.bin directory whose name matches the dotcatenated string
it's searching for (above), of the form:

 /usr/adm/sm.bin/wrapper.post.mylist 
#!/bin/sh
/usr/local/mailman/mail/wrapper post mylist
-

I have to create three of these for each group (post, mailcmd,
and mailowner).

I don't like this solution but it's working.  Does anyone know if
this is correct behaviour for smrsh?

Eric France
Software Engineer
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[Mailman-Users] Mailman

2002-02-12 Thread Eric Baker



I've just had a number of sites migrated to a new server using 
the Mailman list software. The new software has a lot of nice features, but I'd 
like a more basic list program. I just need for people to be able to subscribe 
and unsubscribe. I'd like the list administrator to be the ONLY one to be able 
to email the list, reaching all the list subscribers and the admin. being the 
only one who can read the list and make changes to subscribers. Subscribers 
are NOT allowed to post to the list. This would now be a discussion 
list or even a forum, with the admin. being able to control the postings. 
This is too much. I need a simple list program on this new server.
 
Can you help? Do you have stripped-down version? Can I tweak 
the current version of Mailman (2.0.8) on this server? 
Thank you.
 
Eric-iMountain Inc.www.iMountainDesign.com970-870-6625
 


[Mailman-Users] Reply-to address is missing hostname.

2002-02-27 Thread Eric Zuck

I am currently using mailman version 2.01.

I am set up on a Linux box (Redhat 7.0): say foobar in domain mydomain.com

Everything is woking pretty much OK.

I can post by sending to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The problem is that when I do a reply (replis are configured as to 'this
list'), the reply goes to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
When I want them to go to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

I can get around this by setting an explicit return-to address, but this
doesn't work for the -owner etc. lists.

Is there something dimple that I can do? Something I've overlooked? Some
documentation I haven't read? (If RTFM, which manual?)


Thanks,
-Eric Zuck


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[Mailman-Users] Problem with bounced mail going to Postmaster (Postfix + MySQL)

2002-03-24 Thread Eric Ward

Mailman users:

I've recently setup Mailman 2.0.6 on RH 7.2 with Postfix 20011121snapshot using MySQL 
for user verification (with the virtual features).  I host a handful of different 
virtual mail domains on this machine, and setup a Mailman list called Natlpower for 
one of these virtual domains for a client.

They started using the list, and everything seems to be setup properly (that is, 
people received the messages, and can subscribe and unsubscribe with no problems).  
However, they recently subscribed a large list of addresses.  When they sent out the 
first confirmation of this switch, I as postmaster for the local host received a dozen 
"Postmaster Copy: Undelivered Mail" messages, saying that this user is over quota, 
that this user doesn't exist, et cetera.  An example bounce is below, along with my 
Postfix configuration.

I do not want to receive these e-mails every time someone on the list sends out a 
message and the Postfix server gets these bounces.  However, I can't redirect all 
bounces to them, as most bounces won't be for their list.  I know that Mailman is 
supposed to handle these bounces and take action on them.

What am I supposed to do?  How can I configure Postfix to direct these bounce error 
messages to the "Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]" address that appears in 
the Mailman message headers?  Or do I have to run a filter program to filter these 
bounce messages and redirect them to the 'natlpower-admin' alias?  And if the wrapper 
for this alias receives this bounce message, will it take the appropriate action 
according to its settings in the "Bounce" admin panel?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

--
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And example bounce is below:
--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=
Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Received: from tempest.uarc.com [166.70.102.73] by 166.70.102.66; Sat, 23 Mar 2002 
18:42:45 -0700
Received: by tempest.uarc.com (Postfix) id DC54A74535; Sat, 23 Mar 2002 18:42:42 -0700 
(MST)
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: by tempest.uarc.com (Postfix) id 8EB5074540; Sat, 23 Mar 2002 18:42:42 -0700 
(MST)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mail Delivery System)
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Postmaster Copy: Undelivered Mail
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 18:42:42 -0700
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status;
boundary="9E9417453F.1016934162/tempest.uarc.com"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Content-Description: Notification
Content-Type: text/plain

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: host mx09.hotmail.com[64.4.49.71] said: 552 Requested
mail action aborted: exceeded storage allocation

Content-Description: Delivery error report
Content-Type: message/delivery-status

Reporting-MTA: dns; tempest.uarc.com
Arrival-Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 18:42:32 -0700 (MST)

Final-Recipient: rfc822; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Action: failed
Status: 5.0.0
Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; host mx09.hotmail.com[64.4.49.71] said: 552
Requested mail action aborted: exceeded storage allocation

Content-Description: Undelivered Message Headers
Content-Type: text/rfc822-headers

Received: from tempest.uarc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1])
by tempest.uarc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E9417453F
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sat, 23 Mar 2002 18:42:32 -0700 (MST)
Subject: Welcome to the "Natlpower" mailing list
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-No-Archive: yes
X-Ack: no
Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=help>
List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
List-Subscribe: <http://www.wearepower.org/mailman/listinfo/natlpower>,
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=subscribe>
List-Id: 
List-Unsubscribe: <http://www.wearepower.org/mailman/listinfo/natlpower>,
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.wearepower.org/pipermail/natlpower/>
Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 18:42:32 -0700 (MST)
--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=

[root@tempest root]# postconf -n
alias_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/aliases
command_directory = /usr/sbin
daemon_directory = /usr/libexec/postfix
debug_peer_level = 2
default_destination_concurrency_limit = 10
default_privs = nobody
default_transport = smtp
home_mailbox = Maildir/
inet_interfaces = all
local_destination_concurrency_limit = 2
luser_relay = [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mail_owner = postfix
mail_spool_directory = /var/spool/mail
maps_rbl_domains = blackholes.mail-abuse.org
mydestination = $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain, mysql:/etc/postfix/transport.cf
mydomain = uarc.com
myhostname = tempest.uarc.com
mynetworks = 127.0.0.1
myorigin = $myhostname
notify_classes = resource,

[Mailman-Users] Add to wishlist

2002-04-01 Thread Eric Russell

I am a List Manager on a Lyris produced mailing list.  There are Spam
attacks frequently occurring due to a loophole in the subscription
routine.

A Spam artist trawls the Internet and discovers both the subscription
address and the posting address of the group.

The Spammer prepares an identical message to sell goods or services and
sends one to the subscription address and a short time later to the
posting address (this is my deduction so details could vary). Members
suddenly get a Spam message, which sends them ballistic and they write
message of annoyance to the list.

I intervened and required all new subscribers to be approved.  That's
when I saw the server's advice on a new subscription.  I scrolled down
the subscription request and read the Spam message.

POINT:  It would be GREAT if a mailing list server would reject any
subscription request which contained more than the "subscribe ..."
commands.

I believe our site administrators are interested in the Mailman
software.  I am hoping that the SPAM scam can be defeated with your
software.

Eric Russell

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[Mailman-Users] Bounced mail going to Postmaster, not Mailman

2002-04-06 Thread Eric Ward

Mailman users:

I've got a problem.

I've recently setup Mailman 2.0.6 on RH 7.2 with Postfix 20011121snapshot using MySQL 
for user verification (with the virtual features).  I host a handful of different 
virtual mail domains on this machine, and setup a Mailman list called Natlpower for 
one of these virtual domains for a client.

They started using the list, and everything seems to be setup properly (that is, 
people received the messages, and can subscribe and unsubscribe with no problems).  
However, they recently subscribed a large list of addresses.  When they sent out the 
first confirmation of this switch, I as postmaster for the local host received a dozen 
"Postmaster Copy: Undelivered Mail" messages, saying that this user is over quota, 
that this user doesn't exist, et cetera.  An example bounce is below, along with my 
Postfix configuration.

I do not want to receive these e-mails every time someone on the list sends out a 
message and the Postfix server gets these bounces.  However, I can't redirect all 
bounces to them, as most bounces won't be for their list.  I know that Mailman is 
supposed to handle these bounces and take action on them.

What am I supposed to do?  How can I configure Postfix to direct these bounce error 
messages to the "Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]" address that appears in 
the Mailman message headers?  Or do I have to run a filter program to filter these 
bounce messages and redirect them to the 'natlpower-admin' alias?  And if the wrapper 
for this alias receives this bounce message, will it take the appropriate action 
according to its settings in the "Bounce" admin panel?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Below:  1) Postconf -n output; 2) Example bounce; 3) Maillog entries

--
Eric Ward

[root@tempest root]# postconf -n
alias_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/aliases
command_directory = /usr/sbin
daemon_directory = /usr/libexec/postfix
debug_peer_level = 2
default_destination_concurrency_limit = 10
default_privs = nobody
default_transport = smtp
home_mailbox = Maildir/
inet_interfaces = all
local_destination_concurrency_limit = 2
luser_relay = [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mail_owner = postfix
mail_spool_directory = /var/spool/mail
maps_rbl_domains = blackholes.mail-abuse.org
mydestination = $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain, mysql:/etc/postfix/transport.cf
mydomain = uarc.com
myhostname = tempest.uarc.com
mynetworks = 127.0.0.1
myorigin = $myhostname
notify_classes = resource, software, bounce, policy
program_directory = /usr/libexec/postfix
queue_directory = /var/spool/postfix
smtpd_recipient_restrictions = reject_non_fqdn_recipient, check_client_access 
hash:/etc/postfix/pop-before-smtp, check_relay_domains
transport_maps = mysql:/etc/postfix/transport.cf
virtual_gid_maps = mysql:/etc/postfix/gids.cf
virtual_mailbox_base = /
virtual_mailbox_maps = mysql:/etc/postfix/mailboxes.cf
virtual_maps = mysql:/etc/postfix/remote_aliases.cf
virtual_uid_maps = mysql:/etc/postfix/uids.cf

An example bounce is below:
--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=
Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Received: from tempest.uarc.com [166.70.102.73] by 166.70.102.66; Sat, 23 Mar 2002 
18:42:45 -0700
Received: by tempest.uarc.com (Postfix) id DC54A74535; Sat, 23 Mar 2002 18:42:42 -0700 
(MST)
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: by tempest.uarc.com (Postfix) id 8EB5074540; Sat, 23 Mar 2002 18:42:42 -0700 
(MST)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mail Delivery System)
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Postmaster Copy: Undelivered Mail
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 18:42:42 -0700
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status;
boundary="9E9417453F.1016934162/tempest.uarc.com"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Content-Description: Notification
Content-Type: text/plain

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: host mx09.hotmail.com[64.4.49.71] said: 552 Requested
mail action aborted: exceeded storage allocation

Content-Description: Delivery error report
Content-Type: message/delivery-status

Reporting-MTA: dns; tempest.uarc.com
Arrival-Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 18:42:32 -0700 (MST)

Final-Recipient: rfc822; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Action: failed
Status: 5.0.0
Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; host mx09.hotmail.com[64.4.49.71] said: 552
Requested mail action aborted: exceeded storage allocation

Content-Description: Undelivered Message Headers
Content-Type: text/rfc822-headers

Received: from tempest.uarc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1])
by tempest.uarc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E9417453F
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sat, 23 Mar 2002 18:42:32 -0700 (MST)
Subject: Welcome to the "Natlpower" mailing list
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-No-Archive: yes
X-Ack: no
Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6
Precedence: bulk
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[Mailman-Users] Setting up an announce only list

2002-04-09 Thread Eric Sisler

Greetings!

I'm new to Mailman and I've read the various documentation, FAQ's and 
scanned the archives, but I don't see a definitive answer to setting up an 
"announce only" type list.  I can't quite come up with the solution I want, 
and perhaps there isn't with this version.  Ideally what I'd like is this:

When members (or anyone) try to send to the list, they receive the message 
back in the "autoresponse_postings_text" variable but *NOT* the short 
message indicating that the post is being held pending administrative 
approval (as it won't ever get approved).  In this case, the list 
administrator would only need select "discard" from the "tend to pending 
administrative tasks" page instead of having to word a reply for each posting.

Unfortunately setting "Send mail to poster when their posting is held for 
approval?" to no also seems to disable the autorespond text.  Setting the 
above to yes then sends *both* messages - the short one indicating the 
message is being held for approval and the autorespond text.  The problem 
is the messages conflict - one says the message is being held for approval 
and the other says no posts to this list are allowed.

Another possible solution would be to change the short message to indicate 
no posts are allowed, but I don't see any method of doing so from the web 
interface.  Is there a way?

I'd also like to change the "Welcome to the list" e-mail text, is there a 
way to do this - other than just adding additional text?

If anyone has a better method for setting up an announce only list, I'm all 
eyes.

Any suggestions are appreciated.  Thanks!

-Eric


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Re: [Mailman-Users] changing the Welcome message on a per list basis... a shot in the dark

2002-04-11 Thread Eric Sisler

At 12:28 PM 04/11/2002 -0400, Jon Carnes wrote:

>Okay, here is the deal...
>
>  - You can simply change the text in subscribeack.txt and you are done.
>This changes every welcome message from every list, or

[snip]

>def specwelcome(listname):
> """Return special welcome file for `listname' if it exists."""
> # If a special subscibeack.txt file exists in the lists home directory
> # use that instead of the normal one specified in the templates dir
>welcfile = os.path.join(mm_cfg.LIST_DATA_DIR, listname, 'subscribeack.txt')
>if not os.path.exists(welcfile):
>  welcfile = "subscribeack.txt"
>return welcfile
>===
>
>This function looks for a copy of the subscribeack.txt file in the lists
>home directory (~mailman/lists//..).  If it finds a copy then it
>uses that, instead of the common one in ~mailman/templates/...
>At least, that is what it's supposed to do!

Have you gotten this snippet of code to work?  I tried and it bombed, 
although I know very little about python so I may have done something 
wrong.  I haven't changed the following line yet:

>To use it, you would add the function to Deliverer.py and then replace the
>existing line (in Deliverer.py):
> 'subscribeack.txt',
>with something like:
> specwelcome(name),

Another solution would be to edit subscribeack.txt to include just text 
that should be sent to *every* list and add your own text to the "list 
specific text prepended..." box on the general options page.  I'm 
considering doing this to prevent the "to post to the list..." text & 
accompanying e-mail address from being included in the welcome message for 
announce only lists.  The trick will be remembering to add the necessary 
text and list address to lists that do accept posts!

-Eric


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Re: [Mailman-Users] changing the Welcome message on a per list basis... a shot in the dark

2002-04-11 Thread Eric Sisler

At 03:12 PM 04/11/2002 -0400, Jon Carnes wrote:

>Thanks for testing it!  I'll give it a  run tonight myself and tweak it.

Thanks for the sample code.  If I knew more about python I'd try and fix it 
myself.  (Learning python is on my "list of things to do", I just haven't 
gotten there yet.)  It does tend to hose other mailman functionality, so if 
you don't want to test it on a production mailman box, let me know.  I'm in 
the process of setting up my first list so mailman hasn't gone live yet and 
I'd be happy to test it.

>Shouldn't be too hard to make it work, though it might work better if I used
>a file in the ~mailman/templates/.. directory. It also doesn't need to be a
>function - I just thought I would get fancy.

I was thinking ~/mailman/templates/subscribeack.[list-name].txt might be a 
good location.

>I hacked it together in email.  Never tested it.  It's not something I'm
>likely to use.
>
>I normally don't worry about the welcome message.  For my purposes, if it is
>inappropriate, I don't send a welcome message out.

Then don't spend a lot of time on it, unless you've nothing better to 
do.  ;-)  It'd be nice to have, but I can probably make my earlier 
suggestion re: short subscribeack.txt file and add the rest to the "list 
specific text prepended..." box on the general options page.  AFAIK, you 
can't include html tags though, which could be a drawback.

-Eric


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[Mailman-Users] is it possible to unsubscribe with mailman ?

2002-04-11 Thread Eric Seigne

Hello World,
i've installed mailman, an today  some users want to unsubscribe ... and
it's impossible by web interface ! 

here is my installation:
view-source:http://lists.abuledu.org/mailman/listinfo/support
and this is a problem:


The  subscribers list  is  only available  to  the list  members.
Enter  your  address and  password  to  visit  the subscribers  list:
  Address: 
Password:   


To change your subscription (set options like digest and delivery modes,
get a  reminder of  your password, or  unsubscribe from  support), enter
your   subscription   email   address:


(there is no open form tag for last form ...) 

Is there a solution ? 

Thanks
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[Mailman-Users] Installation problem

2002-04-15 Thread Eric Evans

Hi,

I have not been able to install Mailman, and I'm hoping someone out there 
may be able to offer some helpful advice.

Configuration: I'm on a Sun workstation with Solaris 8, and running NIS.  I 
have created a user called mailman, and a group called mailman.  The 
mailman user is listed in the local passwd file, i.e. /etc/passwd/.  The 
mailman home directory is /usersm/mailman, and it is owned by user 
mailman.  The setgid bit is set on this directory.  I am logged in as user 
mailman when I try to run the installation.

The problem is that when I run ./configure --prefix=/usersm/mailman, it 
fails with the following error messages:

checking for --with-username... mailman
checking for mailman UID... Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "conftest.py", line 1, in ?
 import pwd, string
ImportError: No module named pwd
cat: cannot open conftest.out

configure: error:
* No "mailman" user found!
* Your system must have a "mailman" user defined

This is puzzling because I most definitely do have a mailman user 
defined.  Can anyone help me figure out what the problem is here?  Thanks 
very much.

Best wishes,
Eric Evans
Cornell Phonetics Lab
Ithaca, NY





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Fwd: Re: [Mailman-Users] Installation problem

2002-04-15 Thread Eric Evans

Hi,

Yes I am in fact using Python 2.2, but unfortunately I still can't get 
configure to run.  This is very frustrating.  If anybody has any further 
suggestions on how to get this thing to work, I would really appreciate 
hearing them.  Thanks....

Eric Evans

>it sounds to me like you have an old version of python.
>get 2.2 from www.python.org, and see if that fixes your problems..
>
>-tom
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Eric Evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 2:26 PM
>Subject: [Mailman-Users] Installation problem
>
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have not been able to install Mailman, and I'm hoping someone out
>there
> > may be able to offer some helpful advice.
> >
> > Configuration: I'm on a Sun workstation with Solaris 8, and running
>NIS.  I
> > have created a user called mailman, and a group called mailman.  The
> > mailman user is listed in the local passwd file, i.e. /etc/passwd/.
>The
> > mailman home directory is /usersm/mailman, and it is owned by user
> > mailman.  The setgid bit is set on this directory.  I am logged in as
>user
> > mailman when I try to run the installation.
> >
> > The problem is that when I run ./configure --prefix=/usersm/mailman,
>it
> > fails with the following error messages:
> >
> > checking for --with-username... mailman
> > checking for mailman UID... Traceback (most recent call last):
> >File "conftest.py", line 1, in ?
> >  import pwd, string
> > ImportError: No module named pwd
> > cat: cannot open conftest.out
> >
> > configure: error:
> > * No "mailman" user found!
> > * Your system must have a "mailman" user defined
> >
> > This is puzzling because I most definitely do have a mailman user
> > defined.  Can anyone help me figure out what the problem is here?
>Thanks
> > very much.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> > Eric Evans
> > Cornell Phonetics Lab
> > Ithaca, NY
> >
> >
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[Mailman-Users] Installation problem again

2002-04-16 Thread Eric Evans

Hi,

I'm still unable to install Mailman, and as someone pointed out to me 
yesterday, it is because of a Python problem.  When I run configure, a 
module called conftest.py tries to import a module called pwd, which 
unfortunately is not present, anywhere.  Does anyone know where this 
mysterious pwd.py file comes from, or where it normally resides?  It does 
not appear to be a part of the standard Python 2.2 installation.

Thanks a lot,
Eric



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[Mailman-Users] Failure to exec script

2002-05-24 Thread Eric O'Callaghan
Title: Failure to exec script






I am new to Mailman ang get the following error when I send email to a test list:


Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 12, GOT gid 47.  (Reconfigure to take 47?)


The documentation suggests re-installing Mailman as the solution, I was wondering if there is anyway around this?


Also, is it possible to dynamically extract subscriber information such as email addresses from an external db source ?


TIA


 \Eric





[Mailman-Users] virtual domains

2002-06-05 Thread Eric Sandquist



Has anybody gotten 
the virtual domain functionality to work?  I need it for my box.  I 
have a dedicated server with serveral domains on it.  I want to switch all 
the majordomo stuff to mailman, if possible.
 
Also, is there any 
cgi or php pages developed to enable a user, once inside one of the sites, 
 to create his/her own list?
 
Thanks...
 
Eric
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[Mailman-Users] Global footers and other issues...

2002-06-12 Thread Eric Sandquist



Has anyone had any 
experience with global footer?  I need to be able to place html code or php 
code as a global footer to all the lists on the server and/or a method to place 
footers based on the list, but in addition to what the list adminsitrator 
has control over.  This is so that a virtual-domain owner or a subscribed 
list-owner cannot disable certain code that would be placed on their lists - 
banner ads, site promotion and such...  Of course, I need to be able to 
remove it on list-by-list basis so that a list-owner or domain holder can pay or 
make other arrangements to have the code removed for their lists.  Also, 
some lists may need to have special code in place for specific 
issues...
 
Has anyone done 
this?
 
Also, has anyone 
intergrated Mailman into phpNuke or MyphpNuke?
 
Also, does the 
current release-beta (2.1b2) have capabilitiies to update both the aliases file 
and the domainaliases file?  And if so, what about automaiting a call to 
newliases and makemap so that they are properly updated for automatic list 
generation in a virtual-domain environment.
 
Currently, I am 
upgrading my servers OS to RH7.2 from RH5.2... then, if I still need to, I will 
upgrade Perl to the latest release, since my current Perl is too old for the 
latest beta-release the stable release works fine...
 
I have the email 
lists working under virtual domains, setting all the aliases manually in both 
files... but I am having trouble getting the web-interface to work under the 
virtual domains... the root domain on the server seems to reference the alias 
and scriptalias fine, but the other domains don't... I'm not sure why... Any 
ideas
 
The answers to these questions and others are greatly 
appreciated...
 
Eric Sandquist
Systems Engineer - 
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[Mailman-Users] Installation/transfer

2002-07-29 Thread Eric Cobb

Hi,
I'm trying to transfer an existing mailing list with several groups
from one server to another.  I'm going from RedHat 7.2 to RedHat 7.3.  I
have everything transferred over and the lists and groups are there, but
whenever anyone tries to post a message, the email gets returned. It doesn't
recognize the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" address.  Has anyone ever run into
this sort of thing before?  I don't want to create new groups, I just need
it to recognize the existing list manager email address for each group.

Any ideas? 

Thanks,

Eric



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[Mailman-Users] Postfix - aliases & domainaliases

2002-08-01 Thread Eric Sandquist

How do I get mailman to automate the generation of aliases and
domainaliases?  My needs are such that I need to automate the creation of
lists so that I do not need to hand enter or validate every request for a
new list.

Also, is it possible to prevent users from having access to creating a list
based on some kind of access level?

I am evaluating this application verses sympa.  I have used majordomo for
over 5 years and need more options than it can provide.  Mailman and Sympa
seem to be the strongest competitors for this type of service.

Eric Sandquist
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[Mailman-Users] Two Questions

2002-08-09 Thread Eric Hake

I'm having the following two problems:

1) How do I set up the pipermail feature? I have a /pipermail folder in my
root, but I'm missing something, because when I try to view archives, it
says it's not available...How do I generate the archives so their
viewable from the /pipermail folder?

2) I had a user complain today that my new list generated 154 of the same
messages in one day to the same user!  I imported the list from my old
Majordomo list en masse, and it turns out that one of the subscribers email
account doesn't exist, so I got a ton of cron job emails in my inbox when I
woke up today... Could this be causing the message to be resent 154 times?

Thanks!
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[Mailman-Users] Mailman on a shared server???

2002-09-26 Thread Eric Rozón

Hello Mailman Users,
I've been a member of the list for about a week now and have not seen anyone
post this question:

Can Mailman run on one of Alabanza's shared servers?

I have a shared hosting account on one of those servers and I need a mail
management system like
Mailman.  I was wondering if this is possible without having ROOT on that
server.

Thanks for your time.


-Eric




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[Mailman-Users] Segmenting subscribers

2002-10-13 Thread Eric Mueller
Title: Message



Hi, quick question - 
I'm looking into adopting mailman to handling some annoucement lists, but I need 
a way to "segment" users-- that is, when folks subscribe, they would be able to 
mark themselves as part of group A, group B and/or group C. Then, when 
sending out an annoucement to the list, the person sending should be able to 
specify which groups it should go to (for example, "all the people in groups A 
and C"). Bounces and so forth should be handled normally since ultimately it's 
just one big list on the back end, not three separate lists. Can Mailman do 
this, or can anyone refer me to a system that can?
 
best
Eric 
Mueller
http://themepark.com
 


[Mailman-Users] why member's email is taken as No-memeber posting and put into pending?

2001-01-08 Thread Eric Wang

Hi There,

I got a problem here, 
I have couple member post only mailists, but I found there are some
member posted emails are put into pending also with the information
"Non-members are not allowed to post messages to this list.", so I am
wondring how this happened, and if there is a solution?

My system Qmail+Mailman2.0

Thanks, you guys!



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[Mailman-Users] Return-Path Problem

2001-01-10 Thread Eric Wang

Let's see we have mail list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

people normally post message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], after mailman delivered the
message to subscribers,mailman will organize the mail header become like
this:
Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
.
.
.
From:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

so , when some stupid mail client program reply such a email message,
then [EMAIL PROTECTED] was taken as reply email address instead of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

My question is can we change the way mailman to organize message
somehow, then the email address ABC-admin won't get the email it should
not get?








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[Mailman-Users] Am I the only one get this problem? member posted email was put into pending?

2001-01-10 Thread Eric Wang


Hi There,

I got a problem here, 
I have couple member post only mailists, but I found there are some
member posted emails are put into pending also with the information
"Non-members are not allowed to post messages to this list.", so I am
wondring how this happened, and if there is a solution?

My system Qmail+Mailman2.0

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[Mailman-Users] Mailman newbie question

2001-05-11 Thread Eric Schmitz

Greetings!

   I'm brand spankin' new to this list, but I already have a question.
(I suppose that's why I joined!) Does anybody know of a way to easily
convert an existing majordomo list to Mailman?
   Also, is there a FAQ somewhere for this list? Thanks!

-Eric Schmitz

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Re: [Mailman-Users] newlist don't make aliases

2001-05-12 Thread Eric Schmitz

marco-

   I too noticed this. When I run newlist, the aliases are generated,
but only in stdout. What I do is simply highlight them and copy, then
immediately go to my aliases file and paste them at the end. (Of course,
remember to run newaliases -- or, for me, vnewaliases) I could not find
any stubfile anywhere with the aliases in it.

   In the end, you need something like the following list of aliases:

## listname mailing list
## created: 12-May-2001 webbalah
listname:  "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/wrapper post listname"
listname-admin:"|/usr/local/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner
listname"
listname-request:  "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd
listname"
listname-owner:listname-admin

   I actually find the Mailman aliases much more neat and easy to deal
with than those required for Majordomo.

-Eric

marco wrote:
> 
> Hi everybody
> I'm very new with mailman and mail serving in general
> 
> I run mailman on a linux redhat 7.0 box, with sendmail 8.11.0-8.
> Mailman seems to work fine but the problem is when I create a list
> (test)
> there is no aliases list displayed...
> The list exists but when I reply to confirm my subscription the server
> response is that user test-request don't exist...
> I would like to create them by myself at command line but I don't know
> what kind of aliases i must create.
> Could someone help me ?
> 
> thanks
> marco
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[Mailman-Users] big lists, big messages

2001-05-12 Thread Eric Schmitz

Does anyone have any experience in using Mailman with very large lists?
I have a newsletter that goes out to 10,000 people each week, and each
issue is about 30K. Majordomo seems to be tripping over itself, and many
of my subscribers are not receiving their newsletter. This is Very Bad,
especially when the advertisers find out! :-(

I'm thinking of trying the same list through Mailman. Any thoughts?

-Eric

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Re: [Mailman-Users] big lists, big messages

2001-05-14 Thread Eric Schmitz

Zowie! I seem to have started a major thread here! Thenks everyone for
all the advice. I can't pretend to understand everything, since I'm not
exactly an e-mail god, but I appreciate the suggestions and will try
some.

   I too had considered going to an "abstract format" for the
newsletter, but it looks like that might 1) not solve my problem, and 2)
have troubles of its own. Would definitely mean more work for me, the
webmaster. (My wife actually writes the newsletter.)

   I'll look into the use of other MTAs. I have a question in to my tech
support people about that. I run a virtual server, and I'm not sure what
is available in the way of alternative MTAs. I may be stuck with
sendmail. We'll see.

   All that being said, I do think Mailman is going to be the way to go,
just for its robust feature set and ease of use and configuration. I've
already figured out how to place rotating ads in the headers and
footers, and I appreciate the way it dynamically generates interface
pages for users and list admins to configure their subscriptions and
lists. Very cool!

   Again, thanks everyone for *all* the help! This is a really great
list!

-Eric Schmitz
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Re: [Mailman-Users] big lists, big messages

2001-05-17 Thread Eric Schmitz

   Well, you guys are gonna kill me for this, but I seem to have solved
my original problem. You may recall that I have a 10,000 member list
which gets a 30K mailing each week, and many people were reporting
missing issues.

   Um... it had nothing to do with the size of anything at all.

   Somebody managed to drop an address into the list that began with a
colon (:). It seems that a colon is a control or routing character in
majordomo, and that's what was screwing things up. Once I removed that
offending address and sent out a test message, we got many replies
saying the list is now working.

   This has turned out to be entirely off-topic, but I suppose there's a
chance that Mailman would also choke on an address with a colon in it.

   Again, thanks for ALL the suggestions!

-Eric (running for his foxhole!)

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[Mailman-Users] messages queued in qfiles but not sending

2001-06-07 Thread Eric Cantin

Hello everyone,

I had Mailman working beautifully for a week.  Now it doesn't work.  All
messages are being queued, but they are not sent.  If I manually type
the following line from the Mailman cron file, the queued messages are
sent "/usr/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner".

 What is causing this problem and how can I solve it?

Eric


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Re: [Mailman-Users] messages queued in qfiles but not sending

2001-06-07 Thread Eric Cantin

My error log in mailman/logs is empty.  Please correct me if I'm wrong, does the
mailman cron control the delivery?

Pug Bainter wrote:

> Eric Cantin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said something that sounded like:
> >  What is causing this problem and how can I solve it?
>
> In all likelihood there is misformatting in the message. Look at
> ~mailman/logs/error for more information on what is wrong. It should be
> growing rapidly in size with errors.
>
> Ciao,
>
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Re: [Mailman-Users] messages queued in qfiles but not sending

2001-06-07 Thread Eric Cantin

Looks like my cron jobs aren't working.

Pug Bainter wrote:

> Eric Cantin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said something that sounded like:
> > My error log in mailman/logs is empty.  Please correct me if I'm wrong, does the
> > mailman cron control the delivery?
>
> Yes it does.
>
> Ciao,
>
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Re: [Mailman-Users] messages queued in qfiles but not sending

2001-06-07 Thread Eric Cantin

My cron log file was corrupt.  Everything is back to normal.

Thanks

Eric


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[Mailman-Users] how to know in which lists I have subscribed ?

2001-06-29 Thread Eric Gerbier

hello

as an admistrator, I can play with find_member command

but as a simple user ?

ps : if I compare with majordomo, there is a "which" mail command to do
that.

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[Mailman-Users] will regular expression is supported in Privacy Options Section?

2001-07-11 Thread Eric Wang

Hi guys,

I am trying to know if the regular expression can be used in
"Addresses of members accepted for posting to this list without implicit
approval requirement."
or simpler, if enter this something like 

foo.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

will both email from email address [EMAIL PROTECTED] and domain foo.com be
affected?

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[Mailman-Users] will regular expression is supported in Privacy Options Section?

2001-07-11 Thread Eric Wang

Hi guys,

I am trying to know if the regular expression can be used in
"Addresses of members accepted for posting to this list without implicit
approval requirement."
or simpler, if enter this something like 

foo.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

will both email from email address [EMAIL PROTECTED] and domain foo.com be
affected?

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[Mailman-Users] e-mail configuration.

2001-09-14 Thread Eric Brueggmann

Hello,

I'm trying to find some documentation on how to configure and quiry
mailman w/o using the web.  I see Christopher  started the documentation "User
Documentation: v1.0" but there is nothing under the heading on page 7.  I'm
just trying to figure out how to do the following through e-mail:

1) Get lists members.  I think its..  "who " in majordomo.
2) Add and remove members from different lists in one e-mail.


Thanks for your time,
    Eric B.




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[Mailman-Users] listusers in database

2001-09-20 Thread Eric Persson

Hi !

I'm new to the list, so this topic might have been discussed before. Is
it possible to store subscribers in a database for example mysql?

//eric

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[Mailman-Users] DEFAULT_HOSTNAME? (fwd)

2001-09-24 Thread eric-mailman

I've just spent most of an entire evening trying to understand where
Mailman (i.e., the scripts that build Mailman - configure & make - and
Mailman itself) gets its identity from. I'm attempting to install Mailman
on the host charlie. charlie is the web host for pretorious.net and
funkymonkeybutt.com. A reverse-DNS lookup of charlie's IP address
will return pretorious.net. Mailman will only be accessible via
www.funkymonkey.com (once I get it installed and configured correctly).

I've tried modifying the 'www' and 'url' values of configure and
configure.in

I've tried passing --host and --target to ./configure

I've tried modifying Mailman/mm_cfg.py

...and nothing seems to work in a predictable manner. _Sometimes_ the
values that the cgi scripts return (via HTTP) contain the hostname
'charlie' and _sometimes_ they contain one of the values set using the
methods listed above. e.g., If I use `hostname www.funkymonkeybutt.com` to
temporarily set the hostname env value, `make` begins using pretorious.net
instead of charlie.  And Mailman pretty much ignores the Mailman/mm_cfg.py
values.

Everyone seems to talk about Mailman like it practically installs itself
and then goes about laying golden eggs. What could possibly be causing me
to be the only person on this list with basic installation?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] DEFAULT_HOSTNAME? (fwd)

2001-09-24 Thread eric-mailman

More head-scratching: I've basically removed any traces of the
hostname/domain pretorious.net. Starting with fresh source code...

I've set the system name using `hostname www`

I've set the system domain name using `domainname funkymonkeybutt.com`

I've set the options --build, --host, and --target when using ./configure.

I've configured DEFAULT_HOSTNAME and DEFAULT_URL in Mailman/mm_cfg.py to
correct the values (i.e., pretorious.net) in Mailman/Default.py,

...but this flaming hunk of python still pulls the wrong values out of its
butt! (i.e., pretorious.net) Am I on Candid Camera or something?!

Aaaagghh!!!

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Re: [Mailman-Users] DEFAULT_HOSTNAME? (fwd)

2001-09-24 Thread eric-mailman

On Tue, 25 Sep 2001, Roger B.A. Klorese wrote:

> At 12:05 AM 9/25/2001 -0700, you wrote:
> >More head-scratching: I've basically removed any traces of the
> >hostname/domain pretorious.net.
> >
> >...but this flaming hunk of python still pulls the wrong values out of its
> >butt! (i.e., pretorious.net) Am I on Candid Camera or something?!
>
> What's the reverse DNS lookup of your primary IP address?

Reverse-DNS returns pretorious.net for the server's _only_ IP address:
216.163.153.154.

It gets wierder, though: Now cgi-bin/admin and cgi-bin/listinfo can't
agree on the text that's displayed across the light-blue banner at the top
of the page: admin displays "pretorious.net mailing lists"  and listinfo
tells visitors about the "www.funkymonkeybutt.com Mailing Lists"

The flame burns higher and the hunk flies farther...

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Re: [Mailman-Users] DEFAULT_HOSTNAME? (fwd)

2001-09-25 Thread eric-mailman

Here are the system values that I set before configuring:

  `hostname www`
  `hostname funkymonkeybutt.com`

Here are the settings I used to configure Mailman:

  --build=funkymonkeybutt.com
  --host=www
  --target=/cgi-bin/mailman

...and the values I used in Mailman/mm-cfg.py (Pay special attention to
the capitalization of the values):

  DEFAULT_HOSTNAME=Funkymonkeybutt.com
  DEFAULT_URL=fUnkymonkeybutt.com

Here are the only places that I'm seeing those values reflected:

  cgi-bin/admin: The banner across the top... Funkymonkeybutt.com
  cgi-listinfo: The banner across the top... www.funkymonkeybutt.com

What strikes me is:
1. The two different values IN THE SAME LOCATION on the page.
2. The fact that I never used the entire string "www.funkymonkeybutt.com"
   during configuration.
3. grep'ing the $prefix directory recursively reveal only two instances of
   the string "pretorious.net" - Both are in Mailman/Defaults.py - yet
   the same string still finds it's way into the mailman-owner address.

It's not vaporware, it's crack-ware! Pass me the lighter, please.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] DEFAULT_HOSTNAME? (fwd)

2001-09-25 Thread eric-mailman

On Tue, 25 Sep 2001, Greg Ward wrote:

> On 25 September 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> > Here are the system values that I set before configuring:
> >
> >   `hostname www`
> >   `hostname funkymonkeybutt.com`
>
> A Unix host has one hostname.  One...

A typo on my part: I used `domainname funkymonkeybutt.com`
   ^^
> > Here are the settings I used to configure Mailman:
> >
> >   --build=funkymonkeybutt.com
> >   --host=www
> >   --target=/cgi-bin/mailman
>
> Umm, where did you get the idea that those are even remotely relevant?

Given the overwhelmingly thorough documentation that comes with
Mailman, I can't imagine why anyone would experiment with anything that
remotely resembles a glimpse of hope but isn't referenced in the
documentation.

>From "./configure --help" (for *any* autoconf-generated configure script
> -- this has nothing to do with Mailman):
>
>   Host type:
> --build=BUILD   configure for building on BUILD [BUILD=HOST]
> --host=HOST configure for HOST [guessed]
> --target=TARGET configure for TARGET [TARGET=HOST]
>
> These options are for cross-compilation.  If you're not building Mailman
> on architecture FOO to run on architecture BAR, they are utterly
> irrelevant.

So do you have any answers? Or just bullets to shoot holes in my [futile]
attempts to get Mailman to function logically?

I was just using these to see if they had any affect at all on the way
Mailman functions. They don't. Now I know why. Thanks.

Bah humbug!

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[Mailman-Users] DEFAULT_HOSTNAME?

2001-09-25 Thread Eric Pretorious

I've just spent most of an entire evening trying to understand where
Mailman (i.e., the scripts that build Mailman - configure & make - and
Mailman itself) gets its identity from. I'm attempting to install Mailman
on the host charlie. charlie is the web host for pretorious.net and
funkymonkeybutt.com. A reverse-DNS lookup of charlie's IP address
will return pretorious.net. Mailman will only be accessible via
www.funkymonkey.com (once I get it installed and configured correctly).

I've tried modifying the 'www' and 'url' values of configure and
configure.in

I've tried passing --host and --target to ./configure

I've tried modifying Mailman/mm_cfg.py

...and nothing seems to work in a predictable manner. _Sometimes_ the
values that the cgi scripts return (via HTTP) contain the hostname
'charlie' and _sometimes_ they contain one of the values set using the
methods listed above. e.g., If I use `hostname www.funkymonkeybutt.com` to
temporarily set the hostname env value, `make` begins using pretorious.net
instead of charlie.  And Mailman pretty much ignores the Mailman/mm_cfg.py
values.

Everyone seems to talk about Mailman like it practically installs itself
and then goes about laying golden eggs. What could possibly be causing me
to be the only person on this list with basic installation?

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[Mailman-Users] Public lists not advertised?

2001-10-02 Thread eric-mailman

Hello:

Lists set as "public" (i.e., archive_private = 0) aren't appearing in the
listinfo page (though they do appear in the admin page). Is there a cure
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Public lists not advertised?

2001-10-02 Thread eric-mailman

On Tue, 2 Oct 2001, J C Lawrence wrote:

> On Tue, 2 Oct 2001 01:10:40 -0700 (PDT)
> eric-mailman  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Hello: Lists set as "public" (i.e., archive_private = 0) aren't
> > appearing in the listinfo page (though they do appear in the admin
> > page). Is there a cure for this?
>
> Your VHosts don't agree.

JC:

Recursively grep'ing $prefix, the only reference to vhost appears in
$prefix/bin/list_lists. (And that doesn't tell me nothin'!) Please
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[Mailman-Users] HTML interface still quirky (fwd)

2001-10-02 Thread eric-mailman

The reason that I'm so keenly interested in Mailman is its Web-interface.
The promise of a customizable Web-interface is what differentitates
Mailman from all of the other MLM's. When I discovered last month that the
Web-interface wasn't quite so robust (the subscribe script and the the
handle_opts script both munge the HTML output.) I was crushed. But then
patch-level 1 came out and the world seemed to be a better place (at least
from the terminal that I stay chained-to 10 hours a day...)

The patch worked - or at least I thought it did. For the first few passes,
the HTML looked fine and then - BAM! - it started acting-up again. Now
subscribe and handle_opts have gone back to putting
" in front of any custom HTML.
I've completely removed the mailman (`/bin/rm -r /opt/mailman-2.0.6-1/*`
and `/bin/rm /opt/src/mailman-2.0.6-1/*`), re-unpacked the .orig.tar.gz
and re-applyied the patch, re-configured, and re-installed but the problem
persists.

What is happening? 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] HTML interface still quirky (fwd)

2001-10-02 Thread eric-mailman

On Tue, 2 Oct 2001, Phil Stracchino wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 01:07:20PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > What is happening? 
>
> s/Van Gogh/Edvard Munch/

Really? Drats!!! (LOL)

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[Mailman-Users] HTML interface still quirky

2001-10-02 Thread Eric Pretorious

The reason that I'm so keenly interested in Mailman is its Web-interface.
The promise of a customizable Web-interface is what differentitates
Mailman from all of the other MLM's. When I discovered last month that the
Web-interface wasn't quite so robust (the subscribe script and the the
handle_opts script both munge the HTML output.) I was crushed. But then
patch-level 1 came out and the world seemed to be a better place (at least
from the terminal that I stay chained-to 10 hours a day...)

The patch worked - or at least I thought it did. For the first few passes,
the HTML looked fine and then - BAM! - it started acting-up again. Now
subscribe and handle_opts have gone back to putting
" in front of any custom HTML.
I've completely removed the mailman (`/bin/rm -r /opt/mailman-2.0.6-1/*`
and `/bin/rm /opt/src/mailman-2.0.6-1/*`), re-unpacked the .orig.tar.gz
and re-applyied the patch, re-configured, and re-installed but the problem
persists.

What is happening? 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] HTML interface still quirky

2001-10-02 Thread eric-mailman

On Tue, 2 Oct 2001, Greg Ward wrote:

> On 02 October 2001, Eric Pretorious said:
> > What is happening? 
>
> I think you'll find that painting was by Edvard Munch.
>
> Unfortunately, I don't know how to get you to feeling like "Starry
> Starry Night" over Mailman, which is probably much more agreeable.  ;-)

Greg:

Thanks for the thoughts, though!

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[Mailman-Users] Commands

2001-10-03 Thread eric-mailman

Hello:

I've noticed that the pine MUA recognizes the set of commands that are
encapsulated with this list's traffic (List-Help, List-Post,
List-Unsubscribe, etc.). Is there a standard for these
commands? If so, where can I find out more about them?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Commands

2001-10-03 Thread eric-mailman

On Wed, 3 Oct 2001, J C Lawrence wrote:

> On Wed, 3 Oct 2001 14:50:39 -0700 (PDT)
> eric-mailman  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Hello: I've noticed that the pine MUA recognizes the set of
> > commands that are encapsulated with this list's traffic
> > (List-Help, List-Post, List-Unsubscribe, etc.). Is there a
> > standard for these commands? If so, where can I find out more
> > about them?
>
> RFC 2369.

Do other MUA's (e.g., Outlook, Netscape, etc.) suport RFC 2369?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Umbrella_List Option?

2001-09-29 Thread eric-mailman

Jon:

Thanks for the very-informative example. This list (and this software)
could use more contributors like you!

Eric P.
Los Gatos, CA

On Tue, 25 Sep 2001, Jon Carnes wrote:

> An Umbrella List is a list of other lists.
> For example, you have the following lists running in Mailman:
>   ThreeBlindMice: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   ThreeBears: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   ThreeMenNaTub: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> By making "Threesomes" into an Umbrella List, you can tell Mailman to add
> "-owner" to any notices, confirmations and passwords that it sends out to
> list members.
>
> Jon Carnes


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Re: [Mailman-Users] DEFAULT_HOSTNAME? (fwd)

2001-09-28 Thread eric-mailman

On Tue, 25 Sep 2001, Greg Ward wrote:

> One possibility is to see what the system resolver thinks your hostname
> is.  Try this:
>
>   $ python
>   Python 2.1 (#2, May  8 2001, 10:50:59)
>   [GCC 2.95.2 2220 (Debian GNU/Linux)] on linux2
>   Type "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>   >>> from socket import *
>   >>> gethostname()
>   'cthulhu'
>   >>> gethostbyname("cthulhu")
>   '127.0.0.1'
>   >>> gethostbyname_ex("cthulhu")
>   ('cthulhu', ['localhost'], ['127.0.0.1'])
>
> On my system, this is all determined by /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts:
>
>   $ cat /etc/hostname
>   cthulhu
>   $ head -1 /etc/hosts
>   127.0.0.1   cthulhu localhost
>
> One thing that *might* work is to add your FQDN to /etc/hosts, so the
> resolver in libc (which is what Python's socket.gethost*() functions
> use) knows about it.

Greg:

Thanks for the suggestions.

Before configuring Mailman this time, I used `hostname www` and
`domainname funkYmonkeybutt.com` to set these values. I also entered the
FQDN "www.fuNkymonkeybutt.com" in /etc/hosts. (Again, pay special
attention capitalization...)

Using the python functions that you used above, gethostname() returned
"www" and gethostbyname("www") returned the system's IP address.

Mailman, though, failed to take the bait and instead used the
pretorious.net values [from a reverse-DNS of pretorious.net I suppose] in
the blue banner across the top of the cgi-bin/admin page. From somewhere -
only God knows where - Mailman found the FQDN that I had intended and used
it in the blue banner across the top of the cgi-bin/listinfo page. (The
FQDN doesn't have any of the upper-case typing that I've been using in
order to identify where Mailman is getting its info so I am still
stumped!)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] DEFAULT_HOSTNAME?

2001-09-28 Thread eric-mailman

On Tue, 25 Sep 2001, Paul Cox wrote:

> Why don't you just edit mm_cfg.py to contain the hostname that you want?
> It's easy... here's the relevant part of mine:
>
> ###
> # Here's where we get the distributed defaults.
>
> from Defaults import *
>
> ##
> # Put YOUR site-specific settings below this line.
>
> MAILMAN_URL = 'http://www.list.org/'
>
> # Site-specific settings
> DEFAULT_HOST_NAME   = 'coxcentral.com'
> # DEFAULT_URL must end in a slash!
> DEFAULT_URL = 'http://lists.coxcentral.com/mailman/'
> PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL  = '/archives'
>
> MAILMAN_OWNER = 'mailman-owner@%s' % DEFAULT_HOST_NAME

Paul:

Sheer brilliance! The MAILMAN_OWNER setting puts me over-the-top. I think
I'll just it "good" and move on to customizing the general HTML.

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[Mailman-Users] Publicly-advertised lists not listed by listinfo

2001-09-28 Thread eric-mailman

Hello:

Does anyone have an idea what might be causing this schizophrenic
behavior:

* admin [correctly] lists the "publicly advertised mailing lists".

* listinfo does not.

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[Mailman-Users] DEFAULT_HOSTNAME? (cont'd)

2001-09-28 Thread eric-mailman

Paul Cox's recommendations (DEFAULT_HOSTNAME, DEFAULT_URL, and
DEFAULT_OWNER) patched things up pretty nicely. There still seems to be
some discrepancy in the values that Mailman uses to identify itself (in
the blue banner across the top of the page):

* admin uses the DEFAULT_HOSTNAME value in Mailman/mm_cfg.py

* listinfo seems to use the lower-case values of either:
  a. the --host & --build options (not likely) or
  b. the `hostname` & `domainname` system values.

Is there a logical explanation for this? (Schizophrenia does not count!)
Is there rememdy?

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[Mailman-Users] DEFAULT_HOSTNAME? (cont'd)

2001-09-28 Thread Eric Pretorious

Paul Cox's recommendations (DEFAULT_HOSTNAME, DEFAULT_URL, and
DEFAULT_OWNER) patched things up pretty nicely. There still seems to be
some discrepancy in the values that Mailman uses to identify itself (in
the blue banner across the top of the page):

* admin uses the DEFAULT_HOSTNAME value in Mailman/mm_cfg.py

* listinfo seems to use the lower-case values of either:
  a. the --host & --build options (not likely) or
  b. the `hostname` & `domainname` system values.

Is there a logical explanation for this? (Schizophrenia does not count!)
Is there rememdy?

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[Mailman-Users] DEFAULT_HOSTNAME? (cont'd)

2001-09-28 Thread Eric Pretorious

Paul Cox's recommendations (DEFAULT_HOSTNAME, DEFAULT_URL, and
DEFAULT_OWNER) patched things up pretty nicely. There still seems to be
some discrepancy in the values that Mailman uses to identify itself (in
the blue banner across the top of the page):

* admin uses the DEFAULT_HOSTNAME value in Mailman/mm_cfg.py

* listinfo seems to use the lower-case values of either:
  a. the --host & --build options (not likely) or
  b. the `hostname` & `domainname` system values.

Is there a logical explanation for this? (Schizophrenia does not count!)
Is there rememdy?

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[Mailman-Users] mailman-users@python.org

2001-10-08 Thread Eric Engelhard

I just installed mailman-2.0.5 on Mandrake 8.0 running apache 1.3.19 and
postfix 20010228. The installation seemed to go well, but after using
the newlist command to set up a test list, my email to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] bounced back with an "uknown user:"test"" message.

Anyone seen this behavior?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail problem

2004-02-03 Thread Eric Pridham
You might also want to check the moderation flags.  First go to see if 
there are any pending moderator requests for the list in the backend. 
If you see those test emails in there, then check to see if you have 
default_member_moderation set to Yes (Privacy->Sender Filters).

Crume, Michael W wrote:

I am new to mailman and to UNIX so forgive any stupidity here.  I have
set up mailman to run several Listserv's.  I created a new list called
"test" to learn with.  It seemed to go well, I am able to created the
list and to set it up via the web.  It will mail me a confirmation of
the created list and send me a link back to it.  However, when I have
had several people try to subscribe and send a message to the list.
They can subscribe and they get a confirmation, but then cannot send to
the list.  Can someone tell me what I need to check to cure the problem.
 

Thanks in advance.

 

Michael W. Crume

Systems Analyst III

UAMS Library - Technical Services

(501) 686-8822

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[Mailman-Users] Digest stopped sending daily

2004-03-06 Thread Eric W.



I run a mailing list 
using mailman that has stopped sending the digest on a daily basis, even though 
the selection for sending a daily digest is set properly. The mailman software 
is installed by my hosting service, and they're somewhat puzzled as to what 
happened. The digest stopped on 2/6. It still sends when it reaches the size 
limit, or I can send it manually, but no daily digest.
 
Any suggestions as 
to what I can do from the admin panel, or that I can send to the techs at my 
hosting service?
 
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[Mailman-Users] Read-only partition

2004-05-10 Thread Eric Pretorious
Hello, All:

I've installed and configured Mailman 2.1.4 "with a little help from [the 
list]" - to paraphrase the Beetles.

Mailman was installed in /usr/local and works nicely there but - for security 
reasons - I prefer to mount the /usr partition read-only. This presents a 
problem, however, because Mailman needs to write to some of the 
subdirectories in /usr/local/mailman.  (e.g., ~/archives, ~/data, ~/lists, 
and ~/qfiles)

Will replacing these directories with symlinks to /var break Mailman?

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[Mailman-Users] add_virtualhost: URL_FQDN and the EMAIL_FQDN values mixed-up

2004-04-30 Thread Eric Pretorious
Hello, All:

I've already checked the buglist () by searching for the word "virtual" and 
didn't find this exact problem so I must be doing something wrong when 
creating virtual mailing lists: Mailman gets the URL_FQDN and the EMAIL_FQDN 
values mixed-up. e.g., With the following settings...

Defaults.py:
  DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'mail.leaguehost.net'
  DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'mail.leaguehost.net'
  DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/mailman/'
  VIRTUAL_HOSTS = {}
  MTA = 'Postfix'
  POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['sunnyvalemetro.org']

mm_cfg.py:
  DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'leaguehost.net'
  VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear()
  add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)
  add_virtualhost('mail.sunnyvalemetro.org','sunnyvalemetro.org')

The welcome message reads like this...
===
The mailing list `bod' has just been created for you

You can configure your mailing list at the following web page:

http://sunnyvalemetro.org/mailman/admin/bod

The web page for users of your mailing list is:

http://sunnyvalemetro.org/mailman/listinfo/bod

There is also an email-based interface for users (not administrators)
of your list; you can get info about using it by sending a message
with just the word `help' as subject or in the body, to:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
===

Also, the  attributes are wrong when viewing the listinfo 
(http://mail.sunnyvalemetro.org/mailman/listinfo/bod):

===
http://sunnyvalemetro.org/mailman/listinfo/bod";>
http://sunnyvalemetro.org/mailman/subscribe/bod";>
To post a message to all the list members, send email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://sunnyvalemetro.org/mailman/roster/bod";>
http://sunnyvalemetro.org/mailman/options/bod";>
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I'm using Postfix v. 2 and Mailman 2.1.4.

What am I doing wrong?

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[Mailman-Users] After making changes to Defaults.py or mm_cfg.py

2004-05-01 Thread Eric Pretorious
After making changes to Defaults.py and/or mm_cfg.py do I need to 
restart/flush anything? Changes don't seem to be taking effect right away.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] After making changes to Defaults.py or mm_cfg.py

2004-05-01 Thread Eric Pretorious
On Friday 30 April 2004 06:09 pm, Eric Pretorious wrote:
> After making changes to Defaults.py and/or mm_cfg.py do I need to
> restart/flush anything? Changes don't seem to be taking effect right away.

i.e., Changes don't seem to be taking affect at all in the Web interface.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] After making changes to Defaults.py or mm_cfg.py

2004-05-01 Thread Eric Pretorious
On Saturday 01 May 2004 04:11 pm, you wrote:
> The web interface changes - is your browser reloading from its cache?

Dan:

Konqueror's cache is turned off.

I removed Mailman and re-installed it. When I edited Mailman/Defaults.py to 
set the URL_FQDN and MAIL_FQDN I made a mistake: I mistyped the URL_FQDN - I 
entered 'mail.leaguehot.net' instead of 'mail.leaguehost.net'.

When I access the Web interface [by manually entering the URI into the 
browser], the hyperlinks in the page are wrong. They still point to 
mail.leaguehot.net.

Are these values stored someplace besides Defaults.py?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] After making changes to Defaults.py or mm_cfg.py

2004-05-01 Thread Eric Pretorious
On Saturday 01 May 2004 06:15 pm, you wrote:
>   This is exactly the same sort of issue answered in FAQ 4.29 at
> <http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq04.029.htp>.

Ah-ha - Now it makes sense! I re-read the page and followed the directions:

> Existing versus new lists
> -
> 
> Changing these things in mm_cfg.py will now effect new lists. 
> 
> If you want to update existing lists the $prefix/bin/withlist script 
> $prefix/bin/fix_url.py is your friend for resetting things. Just run 
> fix_url.py to get its usage.

...and it fixed things.  Thanks!

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Fwd: Re: [Mailman-Users] After making changes to Defaults.py or mm_cfg.py

2004-05-02 Thread Eric Pretorious
$prefix/bin/withlist doesn't seem to work now... (i.e., It worked yesterday!)

> away mailman # bin/newlist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Enter the email of the person running the list: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Initial bod password:
> Hit enter to notify bod owner...
> 
> away mailman #  bin/withlist -l -r fix_url bod -v
> Importing fix_url...
> Running fix_url.fix_url()...
> Loading list bod (locked)
> Setting web_page_url to: http://mail.leaguehost.net/mailman/
> Setting host_name to: leaguehost.net
> Saving list
> Finalizing

(Notice that the domain's been changed from 'sunnyvalemetro.org' to 
'leaguehost.net'.)

What's causing this?

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=mm_cfg.py:
MTA = 'Postfix'

VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear()
add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)
add_virtualhost('mail.sunnyvalemetro.org','sunnyvalemetro.org')
POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['sunnyvalemetro.org']
=mm_cfg.py:


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Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] After making changes to Defaults.py or mm_cfg.py
Date: Friday 30 April 2004 09:21 pm
From: Eric Pretorious <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Saturday 01 May 2004 06:15 pm, you wrote:
>   This is exactly the same sort of issue answered in FAQ 4.29 at
> <http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq04.029.htp>.

Ah-ha - Now it makes sense! I re-read the page and followed the directions:
> Existing versus new lists
> -
>
> Changing these things in mm_cfg.py will now effect new lists.
>
> If you want to update existing lists the $prefix/bin/withlist script
> $prefix/bin/fix_url.py is your friend for resetting things. Just run
> fix_url.py to get its usage.

...and it fixed things.  Thanks!
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Re: [Mailman-Users] autoupdate /etc/aliases?

2004-05-17 Thread Eric P.
On Wednesday 12 May 2004 11:42 am, Pat Riehecky wrote:
> I'm playing around a bit with mailman and was wondering how to get it to
> update /etc/aliases automatically using postfix.

Pat:

Mailman updates the ~/data/aliases & ~/data/virtual-mailman files (and 
automatically updates their correspoding db files by virtue of the newaliases 
command). The /etc/aliases file is not used by Mailman.

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[Mailman-Users] Problems with news2email gateway after upgrading from 2.1.2 to 2.1.5

2004-06-01 Thread Eric McDonald
Hi Guys:

I'm getting the following errors in my log after upgrading to mailman 2.1.5 from 2.1.2

I need this news to email gateway functionality as we are the de facto proxy for users 
on the soc.org.nonprofit list.

Please advise ASAP on how I can get the list server linked back up to my news server.

Thanks,

Eric

Jun 01 14:50:12 2004 gate_news(27744): Traceback (most recent call last):
Jun 01 14:50:12 2004 gate_news(27744):   File "/usr/local/mailman/cron/gate_news", 
line 284, in ?
Jun 01 14:50:12 2004 gate_news(27744):  main()
Jun 01 14:50:12 2004 gate_news(27744):   File "/usr/local/mailman/cron/gate_news", 
line 264, in main
Jun 01 14:50:12 2004 gate_news(27744):  process_lists(lock)
Jun 01 14:50:12 2004 gate_news(27744):   File "/usr/local/mailman/cron/gate_news", 
line 208, in process_lists
Jun 01 14:50:12 2004 gate_news(27744):  conn, first, last = open_newsgroup(mlist)
Jun 01 14:50:12 2004 gate_news(27744):   File "/usr/local/mailman/cron/gate_news", 
line 94, in open_newsgroup
Jun 01 14:50:12 2004 gate_news(27744):  nntp_host, nntp_port = 
Utils.nntpsplit(mlist.nntp_host)
Jun 01 14:50:12 2004 gate_news(27744): AttributeError :  'module' object has no 
attribute 'nntpsplit' 
Jun 01 16:33:04 2004 (6937) Uncaught runner exception: 'str' object has no attribute 
'get_sender'
Jun 01 16:33:05 2004 (6937) Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 111, in _oneloop
self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 159, in _onefile
sender = msg.get_sender()
AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'get_sender'

Jun 01 16:33:05 2004 (6937) SHUNTING: 
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RE: [Mailman-Users] Problems with news2email gateway after upgrading from 2.1.2 to 2.1.5

2004-06-01 Thread Eric McDonald
Hi:

Thanks for getting back to me.  Python 2.3 on Solaris 2.6  It was working fine with 
version 2.1.2?  Which I just upgraded from?

Yes, I do have an entry in my crontab file for this:

# crontab -l mailman
# At 8AM every day, mail reminders to admins as to pending requests.
# They are less likely to ignore these reminders if they're mailed
# early in the morning, but of course, this is local time... ;)
0 8 * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /usr/local/mailman/cron/checkdbs
#
# At 9AM, send notifications to disabled members that are due to be
# reminded to re-enable their accounts.
0 9 * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /usr/local/mailman/cron/disabled
#
# Noon, mail digests for lists that do periodic as well as threshhold delivery.
0 12 * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /usr/local/mailman/cron/senddigests
#
# 5 AM on the first of each month, mail out password reminders.
0 5 1 * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /usr/local/mailman/cron/mailpasswds
#
# Every 5 mins, try to gate news to mail.  You can comment this one out
# if you don't want to allow gating, or don't have any going on right now,
# or want to exclusively use a callback strategy instead of polling.
0,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55 * * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S 
/usr/local/mailman/cron/gate_news
#
# At 3:27am every night, regenerate the gzip'd archive file.  Only
# turn this on if the internal archiver is used and
# GZIP_ARCHIVE_TXT_FILES is false in mm_cfg.py
27 3 * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /usr/local/mailman/cron/nightly_gzip
# Remove any camp held message more than three days old
0 0 * * * /usr/local/mailman/bin/removecampheld.sh
0 1 * * * /usr/local/mailman/bin/mailmanctl -s stop
1 1 * * * /usr/local/mailman/bin/mailmanctl -s start

_None_ of these entries are needed anymore?  Including sending out passwords and 
digests?

Thanks,

Eric

-Original Message-
From: Brad Knowles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 1:52 PM
To: Eric McDonald
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Problems with news2email gateway after
upgrading from 2.1.2 to 2.1.5


At 1:38 PM -1000 2004/06/01, Eric McDonald wrote:

>  Jun 01 14:50:12 2004 gate_news(27744): Traceback (most recent call last):
>  Jun 01 14:50:12 2004 gate_news(27744):   File 
>"/usr/local/mailman/cron/gate_news", line 284, in ?

Mailman 2.1.x doesn't use cron anymore.  The fact that "cron" 
appears in this URL would seem to be an indicator that you are 
upgrading from version 2.0.x to 2.1.5, not 2.1.2 to 2.1.5.  Is that 
correct?

>  Jun 01 14:50:12 2004 gate_news(27744): AttributeError :  'module' 
>object has no attribute 'nntpsplit'
>  Jun 01 16:33:04 2004 (6937) Uncaught runner exception: 'str' object 
>has no attribute 'get_sender'
>  Jun 01 16:33:05 2004 (6937) Traceback (most recent call last):
>File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 111, in _oneloop
>  self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
>File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 159, in _onefile
>  sender = msg.get_sender()
>  AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'get_sender'

You don't tell us anything about the OS you're using, what 
version of Python  you have, etc  However, I would ask if you've 
seen the FAQ entry at 
<http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq05.008.htp>?

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RE: [Mailman-Users] Problems with news2email gateway after upgradingfrom 2.1.2 to 2.1.5

2004-06-01 Thread Eric McDonald
OKAY--

So thanks for pointing me at the FAQ.  I looked at the crontab.in file in 
/cron and I find the following entry in there:

0,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55 * * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S 
/usr/local/mailman/cron/gate_news

Funny thing is, it started working all by itself.  No more errors?  Just how I like it.

Thanks!

Eric



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Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Problems with news2email gateway after
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> At 8:14 PM -0400 2004/06/01, Todd wrote:
>>
>> The qrunners aren't called via cron anymore, but there are still other
>> functions that Mailman 2.1+ uses cron for.  From the INSTALL file for
>> 2.1.5:
>
>   Sorry, I completely spaced out.  I don't know what I was smoking 
> at the time I said that

Hehe, I won't ask -- I'll just drool jealously.

>   Beats the hell out of me why I didn't remember that

Perhaps 'cause you're busy answering tons of questions here and being
an all around helpful fellow?  :)

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[Mailman-Users] Change user

2004-06-02 Thread Eric Gropp
Can I change the user that runs mailman? After installing mailman and Apache (and 
successfully running it for  a few months), I have discovered that nobody is not a 
suitable user for this (PHP-Nuke isn't happy).
Can anyone offer any suggestions short of reinstalling and migrating the existing list?
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[Mailman-Users] Virtual lists with the same name?

2004-06-11 Thread Eric Pretorious
Hello, All:

I've searched the archives 
(http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/) but want to make sure 
that the answer that I found there is still true:

Is it possible to use Mailman 2.1.4 to host multiple virtual lists with the 
same name?  (i.e., [EMAIL PROTECTED] would be different than 
[EMAIL PROTECTED])  The previous posts on the subject hinted that this 
would only be possible if there are multiple installations of Mailman on the 
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[Mailman-Users] Virtual lists with the same name?

2004-06-13 Thread Eric P.
Hello, All:

I've searched the archives 
(http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/) but want to make sure 
that the answer that I found there is still true:

Is it possible to use Mailman 2.1.4 to host multiple virtual lists with the 
same name?  (i.e., [EMAIL PROTECTED] would be different than 
[EMAIL PROTECTED])  The previous posts on the subject hinted that this 
would only be possible if there are multiple installations of Mailman on the 
server.

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[Mailman-Users] Maintainer (Subset of Admin) Access to Web Interface

2004-07-06 Thread Eric Martin
I have a list maintainer that is admittedly not very technical.  He 
needs to be able to manage list membership, but gets confused (read: can 
cause damage) when presented with all the menu options on the admin web 
interface to MailMan.  Is there a recommended way to control access to 
only a subset of the admin controls for certain users, say, who only 
want to see the Membership Management page without seeing the links to 
the other list configuration options?  I know I can manually edit the 
python scripts, but I'm wondering if there isn't already a system in 
place to do this, or someone that's already done this.  Thanks,

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[Mailman-Users] Question......

2004-08-02 Thread Eric McGrath
I use Mailman for three mailing lists - one of which is posting only by moderator and 
the other is posting only by members.

However, I am being asked to approve all mail on all three lists.

How can I make the two so that members can post without my approval?

Thanks for any help you can offer.

Warmly,
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[Mailman-Users] Just upgraded to 2.1.5, mail to list not being processed

2004-08-03 Thread Eric Schmitz
Hi everyone,
   I've been using Mailman for a few years (since 2.0.x), but I'm newly 
subscribed to the list. Yeah, another guy who subbed because he needs 
some help! ;-)

   I've been using 2.1.2 since last Fall, upgraded this morning to 
2.1.5. While this fixed a couple of problems I was having, it seems to 
have left me with a new one. Nothing posted to the list address is being 
processed by mailman. I have tested the aliases, and they are not the 
problem:

## test3 mailing list
test3:  "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post test3"
test3-admin:"|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman admin test3"
test3-bounces:  "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces test3"
test3-confirm:  "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman confirm test3"
   ...and so on. If I alias "test3" to another known e-mail address, it 
comes through with no problem. But with it set as above, it does not 
seem to get to mailman. I see no new heldmsg-test3-.pck file in 
mailman/data

   Permissions on /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman are:
-rwxr-sr-x  1 root  mailman  18396 Aug  3 16:03 mailman
   Couple more bits of information: First, when I installed it, I did 
that as root. I know the instructions said not to do that. I could not 
run 'make install' under another username. When I did run 'make install' 
as root, it ran through, all the way to converting the existing lists 
(and the web interface all works fine). But I did get an error at the end:

Updating Mailman 2.1.4 pending.pck database
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "bin/update", line 780, in ?
errors = main()
  File "bin/update", line 704, in main
update_pending()
  File "bin/update", line 553, in update_pending
db = cPickle.load(fp)
cPickle.BadPickleGet: 73
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/local/mailman-2.1.5.
   If this information makes sense to anyone, and you have a 
suggestion, I would be much obliged. Obviously I'm willing to provide 
any other information needed. Thanks so much!

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Just upgraded to 2.1.5, mail to list not being processed

2004-08-03 Thread Eric Schmitz
I wrote:
Nothing posted to the list address is being 
processed by mailman.
   I managed to solve my own problem. Sorry for all the red herrings. I 
re-ran 'configure' with the right --with-mail-gid option, and it's all 
good. Pays to read the FAQ:

   http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq03.014.htp
   #7 solved the problem. 'Wrong group' error was reported in maillog.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Emails Not Getting Through?

2004-08-05 Thread Eric Schmitz
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Some people are reporting to me that they're not getting the emails from 
our group lately.  Anyone know of any pitfalls I might have set 
incorrectly in my settings?  Does this sound familiar?
   Familiar to me, but the most common cause I've found for that is my 
subscribers' spam filters. I believe that Mailman sends messages with 
bulk precedence -- at least by default. Some spam filters trigger on 
messages tagged as bulk. It's not always the case, but it's a good place 
to look.

-Eric Schmitz
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