[Mailman-Users] MM 2.1rc1 Virtual hosting

[David Gibbs]

I'm trying to setup virtual hosting on a test install of MM 2.1 rc1 ... my
default list host is "midrange.com", and the virtual is
"lists.fallingrock.net".

I've setup a virtual hosted list with the 'lists.fallingrock.net' domain,
but when I send a message to the list I get odd results.

Some of the headers show the 'lists.fallingrock.net' comain, but some show
'midrange.com' ... here's a partially edited sample...

> X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> X-Mailman-Version: 2.1rc1
> Precedence: list
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> List-Id: New Feature Beta Testers 
> List-Unsubscribe:
,
>

> List-Archive: 
> List-Post: 
> List-Help:

> List-Subscribe:
,
>

> Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Here's a fragment of my mm_cfg.py file ...

DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'midrange.com'
DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'lists.midrange.com'
DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/mailman2/'
DEFAULT_HOST_NAME = DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST
DEFAULT_URL   = DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN % DEFAULT_URL_HOST
VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW = 1
add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)
add_virtualhost('lists.fallingrock.net')

The list configuration has the host_name value set to
'lists.fallingrock.net'.

Any ideas why the reply-to, send, errors-to, etc, all have 'midrange.com'
instead of 'lists.fallingrock.net'?

Thanks!

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[Mailman-Users] Re: MM 2.1rc1 Virtual hosting

[David Gibbs]

"Barry A. Warsaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> DG> Any ideas why the reply-to, send, errors-to, etc, all have
> DG> 'midrange.com' instead of 'lists.fallingrock.net'?
> Your MTA is probably munging them.

Thanks!  That's what I needed to know.  I had to add the
"limited_masquerade" feature to my sendmail config.

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[Mailman-Users] Re: upgrading plaintext patched 2.0.13 to 2.1

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"Dan Phillips" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> I located "if self.data_version >= mm_cfg.DATA_FILE_VERSION:" at line
> 611 of the /Mailman/MailList.py file. Is this what needs to be altered?
> Do I just make the change to that file then run ./configure?

Dan:

I ran into this exact problem in an early beta of MM 2.1 ... you are
correct, basically change the DATA_FILE_VERSION statement back to
"DATA_FILE_VERSION = 21", configure, and reinstall, and it should be
corrected.

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[Mailman-Users] VERP_CONFIRMATIONS in 2.1?

[David Gibbs]

Anyone know if VERP_CONFIRMATIONS ever got expanded to support more than
just invitation confirmations?

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[Mailman-Users] Re: Lotus Notes

[David Gibbs]

"John W Baxter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:p05200f02ba3d1e2b4ec9@[192.168.1.50]...
> (One has to believe IBM has improved Notes with respect to
> the Internet since Lotus came under their wing.)

One would be assuming a lot in that case.

I run a number of IBM iSeries (AS/400) oriented mailing lists, and a number
of my subscribers use Notes / Domino ... and I have a LOT of problems with
Domino users.

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[Mailman-Users] MM 2.1 qrunner crashed ...

[David Gibbs]

Here's the error log entry ...

Jan 04 18:25:06 2003 (13623) Uncaught runner exception: unmarshallable
object
Jan 04 18:25:06 2003 (13623) Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 105, in _oneloop
self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 155, in _onefile
keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 132, in
_dispose
mlist.Save()
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 508, in Save
self.SaveRequestsDb()
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/ListAdmin.py", line 138, in
SaveRequestsDb
self.__closedb()
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/ListAdmin.py", line 124, in __closedb
marshal.dump(self.__db, fp)
ValueError: unmarshallable object

Jan 04 18:25:06 2003 (13623) SHUNTING:
1041726305.7114559+5b4b185eba41daeddfa4e2fb64adc9896118e4f2

Any ideas?

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[Mailman-Users] Sendmail performance

[David Gibbs]

Folks:

The README.SENDMAIL has the following statement ...

> Since Mailman usually connects via localhost (i.e. 127.0.0.1) to
> the SMTP port of Sendmail, you should be sure to configure
> Sendmail /not/ to do DNS verification synchronously for
> localhost connections.

I've got an instance of sendmail listening specifically on 127.0.0.1 ... can
anyone point me to some information on how to disable synchronous dns
verification in sendmail?

Thanks!

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[Mailman-Users] Bounce handler for MM 2.1

[David Gibbs]

Folks:

I'm trying to extend some of the bounce handling features in MM 2.1 to work
with some of the MTA's that I send to (Domino being one of the most
prevelent).

Does anyone have some information on how to write a bounce handler?  I'm not
a python programmer (RPG & Java) and, although it doesn't seem that hard to
hack, I can't seem to get the bounce handler modifications to work.

Here's an example ... I tried adding a new entry to the patterns array in
SimpleWarning.py ...

(_c('\s*Delivery attempts are still pending for the following
address(es):'),
 _c('\s*Problems usually are due to service interruptions at the
receiving'),
 _c(r'\s*(?P\S+@\S+)\s*.*')),

To catch the following bounce warning ...

-
After 4 days (76 hours), your message has not yet been
fully delivered.  Attempts to deliver the message will continue
for 11 more days.  No further action is required by you.

Delivery attempts are still pending for the following address(es):

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (host: host.com) (queue: network)

Problems usually are due to service interruptions at the receiving
machine.  Less often, they are caused by the communication system.
-

But it doesn't seem to get caught.

Any suggestions?

Thanks!

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[Mailman-Users] MM 2.1 -- admindb problem

[David Gibbs]

Has anyone else encountered this problem:

I get my daily notification of pending posts that didn't go through (mostly
spam), I click on the link and the admindb script is launched as normal.

I see the summary of the held posts, but if I click on the details link, all
the held posts go away.  All the radio buttons on the summary form were set
to "Defer".

The post log file shows the following for one of the posts that was dumped
...

Jan 06 10:06:44 2003 (22141) openerp400: Discarded posting:
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Happy New Year?=

Bug?

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[Mailman-Users] MM 2.1 -- another qrunner crash

[David Gibbs]

Any thoughts on this?

Jan 06 11:11:44 2003 (13289) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 4]
Interrupted system call
Jan 06 11:11:45 2003 (13289) Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 105, in _oneloop
self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 155, in _onefile
keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/OutgoingRunner.py", line 61, in
_dispose
self._func(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py", line 139, in
process
deliveryfunc(mlist, msg, msgdata, envsender, refused, conn)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py", line 335, in
bulkdeliver
refused = conn.sendmail(envsender, recips, msgtext)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py", line 61, in
sendmail
results = self.__conn.sendmail(envsender, recips, msgtext)
  File "/usr/src/build/143041-i386/install/usr/lib/python2.2/smtplib.py",
line 649, in sendmail
(code,resp) = self.data(msg)
  File "/usr/src/build/143041-i386/install/usr/lib/python2.2/smtplib.py",
line 452, in data
(code,msg)=self.getreply()
  File "/usr/src/build/143041-i386/install/usr/lib/python2.2/smtplib.py",
line 325, in getreply
line = self.file.readline()
IOError: [Errno 4] Interrupted system call

Jan 06 11:11:45 2003 (13289) SHUNTING:
1041867350.917309+1f446e9ad4c55f50183ff7a818a95c53a2ccf1ad





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[Mailman-Users] MM2.1 yet another qrunner error ...

[David Gibbs]

Jan 07 19:25:22 2003 qrunner(1270): Traceback (most recent call last):
Jan 07 19:25:22 2003 qrunner(1270):   File "/usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner",
line 270, in ?
Jan 07 19:25:22 2003 qrunner(1270):  main()
Jan 07 19:25:22 2003 qrunner(1270):   File "/usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner",
line 230, in main
Jan 07 19:25:22 2003 qrunner(1270):  qrunner.run()
Jan 07 19:25:22 2003 qrunner(1270):   File
"/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 59, in run
Jan 07 19:25:22 2003 qrunner(1270):  filecnt = self._oneloop()
Jan 07 19:25:22 2003 qrunner(1270):   File
"/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 88, in _oneloop
Jan 07 19:25:22 2003 qrunner(1270):  msg, msgdata =
self._switchboard.dequeue(filebase)
Jan 07 19:25:22 2003 qrunner(1270):   File
"/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py", line 151, in dequeue
Jan 07 19:25:22 2003 qrunner(1270):  if
data.has_key('rejection-notice'):
Jan 07 19:25:22 2003 qrunner(1270): AttributeError :  'NoneType' object has
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[Mailman-Users] mm2.1 lost data files for filebase?

[David Gibbs]

Anyone know what this message means in the error log: Jan 07 20:22:06 2003
(9953) lost data files for filebase:
1041992497.529189+0825c00113b2b04e16abe6f914d3b764396f75da

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[Mailman-Users] Re: Every day

[David Gibbs]

"Ivan Van Laningham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> OK, I solved my other problem.  But ever since I've installed and used
> Mailman (three years), I've received these little notes from cron:
> /etc/cron.daily/tmpwatch:
> error: failed to open /etc/mtab for reading
> Why is it trying to open /etc/mtab?  What possible business could
> Mailman have with mtab (Redhat, 6.1, 6.2, 7.0, 7.1, 7.2, 7.3)?

What makes you think that message is coming from Mailman?

That looks like a message from stock Redhat processes.

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[Mailman-Users] Re: RedHat 7.3, Python 1.5 and Mailman 2.1

[David Gibbs]

"Ed Greenberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Mailman 2.1 requires Python 2, and RedHat 7.3 has only 1.5. There is a
> Python2 package on my RedHat 7.3 installation, so how can I make Mailman
> use it?

It's pretty easy ...

> Documentation states that I can use --with-python to control the actual
> mailman operation, but that the command line scripts will always use the
> first python on the path. Both python and python2  live in /usr/bin.

This is the key ... add '--with-python=/usr/bin/python2' to the configure
command line.  Then 'make clean && make && make install'.

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[Mailman-Users] Re: RFE

[David Gibbs]

"Ed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> The import facility is critical to delivering targeted content within the
> message distribution.  Being able to import the results of a -HTTP GET- to
> a URL goes a long way towards that, especially if it will allow you to
pass
> parameters on the URL.  Also, make the return an "object" so you can
> perform operations on the object like sub-strings so you could use other
> functionality like "skip" this user or add some other content block based
> on something in the return.

But that is not, IMHO, what Mailman is designed to do.

What you are talking about is a bulk mailer ... not a mailing list system.

Again, my opinion ... but Mailman is designed to facilitate email based
discussion forums ... not blasting email to a huge number of people at once.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] MM 2.1 -- another qrunner crash

[David Gibbs]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> | IOError: [Errno 4] Interrupted system call
> Just that something's wrong with your mail server, or the connection
> between it and Mailman, or something sent the qrunner process a signal
> while it was in the middle of talking to your mail server.

I kind of figured it was something like that ... although MM 2.0.13 never
encountered problems like this (that I knew of).  I did, however, recently
upgrade to Redhat 8.0.

I have noticed that, on occasion, I have a sendmail task that will sit for
extended periods of time in 'data' mode ... the PS entry looks like this:

31445 ?S  0:02 sendmail: h07Knsb2031445 localhost [127.0.0.1]: data

When I looked at the mail queue file's associated with id
"h07Knsb2031445", they were defintely associated with the mailing list.

> Try this patch; it won't avoid the interrupted system call, but it
> ought to handle the situation more gracefully (assuming it's a
> transient problem).

I'll give it a try ... but even after I applied the patch, I saw the hung
task again.

Thanks!

david

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[Mailman-Users] Re: Coerce Plain Text with Mailman 2.1

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"Webmaster ST Frontier Fleet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
043a01c2b63b$fb946f90$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:043a01c2b63b$fb946f90$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> - Remove message attachments that don't have a matching content type.
> Leave this field blank to skip this filter test. [ Empty ]

Try setting this one to:

multipart/mixed
multipart/alternative
text/plain

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[Mailman-Users] Re: MM 2.1 -- another qrunner crash

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"David Gibbs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > Try this patch; it won't avoid the interrupted system call, but it
> > ought to handle the situation more gracefully (assuming it's a
> > transient problem).
> I'll give it a try ... but even after I applied the patch, I saw the hung
> task again.

I've tweaked & tuned a bit and I think I've got it working well.

Had to create another sendmail instance that didn't cannonify and was
queueonly, but I haven't had a similar crash in a day or so.

Thanks to all who directly, or indirectly, helped.

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[Mailman-Users] contents of qfiles/bad ?

[David Gibbs]

Folks:

I've got a lot of files in my qfiles/bad directory ... when I did a dumpdb
on some of the files, they seem to contain valid messages.

However, if I do an 'unshunt bad' command, I get the following log entry in
vette...

Jan 12 14:09:58 2003 (5922) Message discarded, msgid:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

That doesn't really tell me a lot about what is bad about the message.

Any suggestions on how to investigate this?

Thanks!

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[Mailman-Users] Re: contents of qfiles/bad ?

[David Gibbs]

"David Gibbs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> I've got a lot of files in my qfiles/bad directory ... when I did a dumpdb
> on some of the files, they seem to contain valid messages.

Ok, I think I've figured out why the messages were being discarded ... they
contained HTML only and no plain text.  My content filtering rules didn't
allow HTML through.

I've enabled html on my content filtering, and also enabled the conversion
from HTML to plaintext.

Now, however, I'm getting the following showing up in my error log ...

Jan 12 14:46:01 2003 (1198) HTML->text/plain error: 256

My html to text conversion command is this: /usr/bin/lynx -force_html -dump
%(filename)s

I've verified that /usr/bin/lynx exists and that mailman can run it.

Any ideas why I would be getting the return code?

Thanks!

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[Mailman-Users] Re: contents of qfiles/bad ?

[David Gibbs]

"David Gibbs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Jan 12 14:46:01 2003 (1198) HTML->text/plain error: 256

To add to the mystery, here's what the messages on the list contain after
they've been sent through the conversion ...

/root/z0cZVZ: Permission denied

Mailman is owned by mailman, so I really don't think that's an issue.  And
the qrunner processes are running as 'mailman'.

Any ideas?

Thanks!

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[Mailman-Users] Re: Re: contents of qfiles/bad ?

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"Jon Carnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Does your process need to write a temp file?

Dunno ... it's just lynks ... I don't use it that much.

> Could you be running into
> a file creation problem?  Does the user mailman have a valid home
> directory setup?

It does have a home directory setup.  I don't know where it's getting
'/root' from.

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[Mailman-Users] VERP'ed delivery error

[David Gibbs]

Folks:

I've activated the occasional VERP message delivery feature (every 25
messages), and noticed the following log entry in smtp-failure ...

Jan 14 09:55:05 2003 (30915) All recipients refused: (553, '5.1.8

... Domain of sender address
midrange-l-bounces+ellis?[EMAIL PROTECTED]
does not exist',
'midrange-l-bounces+ellis?[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
)

Any idea if this is on my end or theirs?

Thanks!

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[Mailman-Users] Re: contents of qfiles/bad ?

[David Gibbs]

"John W Baxter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:p05200f04ba4807d632c4@[192.168.1.50]...
> If you become root using su - and then su - mailman, what happens?
> Output of
>whoami
>pwd
>ls -lad ~

/usr/local/home/david $su -
Password:
[root@linux root]# su - mailman
/usr/local/home/mailman $whoami
mailman
/usr/local/home/mailman $pwd
/usr/local/home/mailman
/usr/local/home/mailman $ls -lad ~
drwxr-xr-x7 mailman  users4096 Jan 12 15:22
/usr/local/home/mailman

> It looks as if the moral equivalent of that su sequence is failing,
leaving
> the process running as mailman but with /root as the current working
> directory OR as the directory referred to as ~.  Since mailman can't write
> files into /root (on any sane system), bad things happen.

I ended up switching the html converter to links ... which seems to be
working well.  No clue why lynks doesn't work.

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[Mailman-Users] Help with content filtering ...

[David Gibbs]

Folks:

I'm trying to get content filtering working, but have run into a jam ...
I've got a subscriber that is using some weird email program called
"Incredimail" (or something like that).  His posts seem to come through as
html only.

I've got content filtering activated, and the following values set:

filter_content = yes

filter_mime_types="" (blank)

pass_mime_types="multipart/mixed
multipart/alternative
multipart/related
text/plain
text/html
application/pdf"

convert_html_to_plaintext=yes

However, when this person posts, his message comes through as an attachment
... I looked in my mail spool file and found the message has the following
in the body ...

> --===21910272910031159==
> Content-Type: Multipart/related;
>   type="multipart/alternative";
>   boundary="Boundary-00=_95ORQL80"
>
>
> --Boundary-00=_95ORQL80
> Content-Type: Text/Plain;
>   charset="iso-8859-1"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>
> I am curious if this can travel as fixed-font.  The spacing really goes
> wacky in posted code. =0D
>  =0D



I'm using 'links' for html to text conversion.

Any suggestions?

Thanks!

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[Mailman-Users] Re: Genaliases script

[David Gibbs]

"Tom Maddox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> I just recently tried to upgrade to Mailman 2.1, but I must have been
doing
> something wrong with genaliases.  Genaliases spits out plaintext output
> about the changes that need to be made, but it doesn't actually make them
or
> regenerate the aliases.db file.  Sorry if this is a ridiculous question
that
> reveals my ignorance, but what else needs to be done to get the aliases to
> work?  Do I need to post-process the genaliases output with another
script?

What MTA are you using?  Sendmail?

If so, then you have to make the changes manually ... I think if you use
postfix the changes are made automatically.

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[Mailman-Users] Re: Problems with content filtering

[David Gibbs]

"Paul Kleeberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:a05200f09ba4fc58a4544@[192.168.1.12]...
> A message was sent out to the subscribers with the appropriate
> subject line and list-specific header lines but this is what appeared
> in the body of the message:
>/root/hPnn4E: Permission denied

Paul:

I ran into the EXACT same problem ... it has something to do with where lynx
creates work files ... I don't know what it is.

I solved the problem by changing the HTML to Plaintext command to links...

Download links from http://artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~mikulas/links/ and
install it.

Then add/change the following in mm_cfg.py ...

HTML_TO_PLAIN_TEXT_COMMAND = '/usr/local/bin/links -dump %(filename)s'

... and restart qrunner.

Works great.

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[Mailman-Users] Re: Problems with content filtering

[David Gibbs]

"David Gibbs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> I solved the problem by changing the HTML to Plaintext command to links...

Actually, I found a simpler solution that doesn't require installing any
software.

Turns out that Redhat decided, in their infinite wisdom, to change the
temporary directory that lynx uses to be the users home directory.  Since
qrunner is suid to mailman, the processes environment information it runs
with is not actually mailman's (home directory, etc) ... so if you start
qrunner when signed on as root, the processes home directory is still root's
home directory (in my case '/root') so, you have a process that has a
home directory that it has no authority to write to.

To fix the problem, we have to change the temporary directory that lynx
uses.

Change the HTML_TO_PLAIN_TEXT_COMMAND to the following ...

HTML_TO_PLAIN_TEXT_COMMAND = 'export LYNX_TEMP_SPACE=/tmp &&
/usr/bin/lynx -force_html -dump %(filename)s'

This causes the temporary directory that lynx will use to be /tmp (which,
btw, is the default for a freshly built lynx).

Now, this works fine ... I just tested it and got fine results... HOWEVER, I
really don't like the way lynx formats the dumped html file... it's got
extra spaces between each line.  Don't know why.

I'm going to stick with links for now. :)

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[Mailman-Users] Re: Cleaning my mailing lists

[David Gibbs]

"Angel Gabriel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> The bit that intrested me, was the final part, how can I reconfirm all my
> subscribers??

Simply sending the monthly password reminder should be sufficient.

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[Mailman-Users] Re: Re: Cleaning my mailing lists

[David Gibbs]

"Dan Wilder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > Simply sending the monthly password reminder should be sufficient.
> Which confirms that the recipient email address exists.  It does
> not confirm that each subscriber wanted to be on your list.

The password reminder informs someone how they can unsubscribe ... so what
difference does it make?  If they don't want to be on the list anymore, they
should just unsubscribe.

As long as the list policy is 'confirm' on subscribe, you know they wanted
to be subscribed in the first place.

JMHO, of course.

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[Mailman-Users] Re: Reply-to

[David Gibbs]

"Rod Roark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> How come Mailman ignores reply-to headers of incoming
> messages?

Can you be a bit more specific?  What do you mean 'ignores reply-to
headers"?

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[Mailman-Users] Odd error in smtp-failure log

[David Gibbs]

Is this something I should be concerned with?

> Jan 17 13:11:05 2003 (20133) delivery to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
failed
> with code 250: 2.1.5 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Recipient ok

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[Mailman-Users] Re: Odd error in smtp-failure log

[David Gibbs]

Ordinarily I would agree with you ... but this came from mailman's smtp
mailer, not my sendmail.

"Jon Carnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Looks like his mailbox was full (had reached it's specified
> limit/quota).  I wouldn't worry about it.
>
> On Wed, 2003-01-22 at 14:37, David Gibbs wrote:
> > Is this something I should be concerned with?
> >
> > > Jan 17 13:11:05 2003 (20133) delivery to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > failed
> > > with code 250: 2.1.5 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Recipient ok



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Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: Odd error in smtp-failure log

[David Gibbs]

At 04:45 PM 1/22/2003, Barry A. Warsaw wrote:

DG> Ordinarily I would agree with you ... but this came from
DG> mailman's smtp mailer, not my sendmail.
Mailman uses your local smtpd to do the sending so it /is/ coming from
your sendmail.


Yes, so that begs the question ... why is mailman not understanding a 
response from sendmail?

The sendmail that mailman is sending to is 'queueing only' with no DNS 
resolution.

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[Mailman-Users] Error: Incorrect padding???

[David Gibbs]

I'm getting a huge amount of these messages ... any ideas?


Jan 30 12:47:18 2003 (9406) Uncaught runner exception: Incorrect padding
Jan 30 12:47:18 2003 (9406) Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 105, in _oneloop
self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 155, in _onefile
keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 129, in
_dispose
status = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 152, in
_dopipeline
sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 89, in
process
send_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 130, in
send_digests
send_i18n_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 317, in
send_i18n_digests
t = str(p.get_payload(decode=1))
  File "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Message.py", line 189, in
get_payload
return Utils._bdecode(payload)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Utils.py", line 75, in _bdecode
value = base64.decodestring(s)
  File "/usr/src/build/143041-i386/install/usr/lib/python2.2/base64.py",
line 44, in decodestring
return binascii.a2b_base64(s)
Error: Incorrect padding

Jan 30 12:47:18 2003 (9406) SHUNTING:
1043952417.326993+00515217dc9bf5375a676ba39e87f425e7eb45bb



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[Mailman-Users] Re: Error: Incorrect padding???

[David Gibbs]

NOTE: I have applied patch [ 668819 ] improve plain-ness and i18n-ness of
plain-text digest

"David Gibbs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> I'm getting a huge amount of these messages ... any ideas?
>
>
> Jan 30 12:47:18 2003 (9406) Uncaught runner exception: Incorrect padding
> Jan 30 12:47:18 2003 (9406) Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 105, in _oneloop
> self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
>   File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 155, in _onefile
> keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
>   File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 129, in
> _dispose
> status = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline)
>   File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 152, in
> _dopipeline
> sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata)
>   File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 89, in
> process
> send_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
>   File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 130, in
> send_digests
> send_i18n_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
>   File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 317, in
> send_i18n_digests
> t = str(p.get_payload(decode=1))
>   File "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Message.py", line 189, in
> get_payload
> return Utils._bdecode(payload)
>   File "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Utils.py", line 75, in _bdecode
> value = base64.decodestring(s)
>   File "/usr/src/build/143041-i386/install/usr/lib/python2.2/base64.py",
> line 44, in decodestring
> return binascii.a2b_base64(s)
> Error: Incorrect padding
>
> Jan 30 12:47:18 2003 (9406) SHUNTING:
> 1043952417.326993+00515217dc9bf5375a676ba39e87f425e7eb45bb
>
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[Mailman-Users] Mailman, Gmane, & "non-text attachements removed"?

[David Gibbs]

Folks:

I've got a problem with some of my subscribers that are using the gmane.org
news server to read mailing lists.  I run my lists with Mailman 2.1.

These subscribers (myself included) post messages to the list via the news
server, and the messages go out to the regular subscribers, and gmane.org,
without a problem ... however, when the message is included in a digest, it
just shows up as "--- non-text attachment removed ---" (or something to that
effect).

I do have Mailman 2.1's content filtering enabled so that only text portions
of a message are sent through (and HTML is *SUPPOSED* to be converted to
text, but that's another issue).

I have Mailman's "pass_mime_types" set to:
multipart/mixed
multipart/alternative
multipart/related
text/plain
text/html

Again, the "non-text attachments removed" message is only showing up in the
digests.

Any idea what is going on?

Thanks!

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[Mailman-Users] Re: HTML interface to set DEFAULT_URL

[David Gibbs]

"Barry A. Warsaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> MP> In Mailman 2.0 there was a setting for the default URL. I
> MP> can't seem to find it in 2.1.
> It was too dangerous to leave in the web interface.

What was dangerous about it?

I'm just curious.

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[Mailman-Users] Re: master-qrunner.pid

[David Gibbs]

"VLists.Net Support" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> We've had several instances lately where Mailman 2.1 just dies silently
and
> no more mail goes out.  I've resorted to putting a cron job in that
> restarts mailmanctl but when that happens I get the following returned...

Does your qrunner log show something like this ...

Feb 01 15:51:47 2003 (30152) BounceRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
Feb 01 15:51:47 2003 (30152) BounceRunner qrunner exiting.
Feb 01 15:51:47 2003 (30154) IncomingRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM.
Stopping.
Feb 01 15:51:47 2003 (30154) IncomingRunner qrunner exiting.
Feb 01 15:51:47 2003 (30156) OutgoingRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM.
Stopping.
Feb 01 15:51:47 2003 (30156) OutgoingRunner qrunner exiting.
Feb 01 15:51:47 2003 (30153) CommandRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM.
Stopping.
Feb 01 15:51:48 2003 (30153) CommandRunner qrunner exiting.
Feb 01 15:51:47 2003 (30157) VirginRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
Feb 01 15:51:48 2003 (30157) VirginRunner qrunner exiting.
Feb 01 15:51:47 2003 (30151) ArchRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
Feb 01 15:51:48 2003 (30151) ArchRunner qrunner exiting.
Feb 01 15:51:49 2003 (30155) NewsRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
Feb 01 15:51:50 2003 (30155) NewsRunner qrunner exiting.

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[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman crashing

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>   Setup:  Mailman 2.1, running on Red Hat 7.3, with Sendmail 8.12.7.
>   For the umpteen time now, Mailman has mysteriously stopped it's
> runners.  I have attached a text file (qrunner.txt) which contains the
last
> three times it stopped working.
>   What's causing Mailman to just quit like this with no discernible
> reason?  Is there something I can do to figure out what the reason might
be?

FWIW: I'm experiencing a very similar problem ... I'm running on RH 8.0
(boy, was it a mistake to do that upgrade).  The only difference is: on my
system, qrunner is stopping every 24 hours.

It seems to be related to some code that sets an ALARM signal ... but I
can't figure out any more than that.

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[Mailman-Users] Re: A Known bug with confirmation string & excessive bounces

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> with regards to the Confirmation string.

Yeah, I think I've seen something like that ... but I have no hard evidence
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[Mailman-Users] Re: A Known bug with confirmation string & excessive bounces

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> I have sent this in before but I guess the powers that be are NOT
> interested.  There is definitely something wrong with the bounce process
> with regards to the Confirmation string.

Now I can confirm this ... I've now had a number of complaints about the
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[Mailman-Users] Re: A Known bug with confirmation string & excessive bounces

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> I have sent this in before but I guess the powers that be are NOT
> interested.  There is definitely something wrong with the bounce process
> with regards to the Confirmation string.

Can anyone explain how confirmation strings are generated and how they are
correlated to the users request?

I have a theory, but need some information.

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[Mailman-Users] Re: A Known bug with confirmation string & excessive bounces

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"David Gibbs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Can anyone explain how confirmation strings are generated and how they are
> correlated to the users request?

Anyone know of a way to force a subscription to be disabled such that it
requires a confirmation to be sent out?

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[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman and spamassassin

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"Dave Stern - Former Rocket Scientist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
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> Seeing how others have asked about this, I've gotten an older version of
> mailman (2.0.12) and spamassassin (2.1) working together.  Let's say
> the list in question is called mylist

There is a patch on the mailman sf.net site that integrates SpamAssassin
quite nicely.

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=640518&group_id=103
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[Mailman-Users] Re: Converting html to text?

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"Matt Minahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> "The attached message matched the odnet-coach mailing list's content
> filtering rules and was prevented from being forwarded on to the list
> membership.  You are receiving the only remaining copy of the
> discarded message."

Did you add text/html to the list of mime types to be passed
(pass_mime_types)?

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[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman + spamassassin

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"Jonas Meurer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Hello,
> I asked already two times, but no answer, now the third try ;)
> I have mailman set up from debian/testing (2.0.13), and spamassassin
> also. Now I would like to configure mailman to filter every incoming
> mail through spamassassin. I found this patch at sourceforge, but if I
> add SpamAssassin.py to mailman/Mailman/Handlers/, and patch
> mailman/Mailman/Handlers/HandlerAPI.py, mailman gives errors. What did I
> wrong? Is there any step-by-step howto?

The SpamAssassin code needs to be compiled, I think, before it will
activate.  If you just put the py file in the installed location, it doesn't
get compiled (into a pyc file).

I implemented the SA patch without a problem, but I put the patch in the
source directory and reinstalled the whole thing.

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[Mailman-Users] Re: html/text email

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"matthew reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> I seem to recall a setting on the admin screens that controlled whether
> the list would send posts in html or text format. i see the setting for
> digest users, but that's not what i'm referring to.

What version?

If 2.1, then look at the content filtering page.

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[Mailman-Users] Re: Reply-to list

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"John Poltorak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Is there a way to set it as the default so that new list will be created
> with this setting?

Set in mm_cfg.py ...

# Mailman can be configured to "munge" Reply-To: headers for any passing
# messages.  One the one hand, there are a lot of good reasons not to munge
# Reply-To: but on the other, people really seem to want this feature.  See
# the help for reply_goes_to_list in the web UI for links discussing the
# issue.
# 0 - Reply-To: not munged
# 1 - Reply-To: set back to the list
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[Mailman-Users] List statistics?

[David Gibbs]

Has anyone put together a statistics package for Mailman?

I've had requests for some statistics like ...

1. Most prolific poster
2. Least prolific poster
3. Histogram of posts by day/month/year

Thanks!

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[Mailman-Users] Re: List statistics?

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> Has anyone put together a statistics package for Mailman?

Doh!  Ignore this ... I just found Jon's script in the archives.

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[Mailman-Users] Notify member when post is held for moderation?

[David Gibbs]

Folks:

Anyone know if there is a way to send a member when their post is held for
moderation?

I've had a few problems with people subscribing to one of my lists, posting
an advertisement, then unsubscribing ... so I enabled "New subscribers are
initially moderated" feature.

Unforunately, sometimes people post and expect their message to show up
immediately and end up resending it multiple times.  I'd really like to be
able to send them a message indicating that their post was held for review,
and that when it is released, future posts will not be held.

I had hoped that the member_moderation_notice option would apply here ...
but it only applies when a moderated member's post is rejected.

Thanks!

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[Mailman-Users] ban_list example?

[David Gibbs]

Anyone have a simple example of using a regex in the ban_list setting?

Say I want to ban everyone from xyz.com and [EMAIL PROTECTED] from subscribing?

I tried ...

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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... but got an invalid value error.

I'm using MM 2.1.3

Thanks!

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[Mailman-Users] Re: ban_list example?

[David Gibbs]

Scott Lambert wrote:
Not knowing anything about mailman's use of these values:
Well, that's kind of important, don't you think?

The "^.*something" regex is equivalent to just "something".  
Since the caret "^" means that this entry in the ban_list setting is a 
regular expression, and not part of the regular express itself, 
".*something" means match anything that begins ends in "something".

Seems pretty easy to me.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] help me!!!

[David Gibbs]

At 09:12 AM 12/23/2001, you wrote:
>The most likely cause is that Mailman was configured and installed 
>incorrectly. Please read the INSTALL instructions again, paying close 
>attention to the --with-cgi-gid configure option. This entry is being 
>stored in your syslog:
>Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 99, GOT gid 48.  (Reconfigure to take 48?)
>  question -> how to fix it !
>  Please tell me thanks!!

Um, not to be too obvious ... but what about reading the message and 
following the suggestion?

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[Mailman-Users] Conditionally strip headers?

[David Gibbs]

Folks:

Does anyone know of a way to get Mailman 2.0.8 to strip some headers from 
messages?

I get a lot of Lotus Notes/Domino users on my list and their mail systems 
tend to add a LOT of garbage to the messages ... all of them prefixed with 
"X-Notes".

Thanks!

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Re: [Mailman-Users] list server and mailman

[David Gibbs]

At 10:40 AM 12/29/2001, Joe Wise wrote:
>Is there anyone using mailman as a list-server who can help a newbie?  I am
>a physics teacher at a school in Santa Monica and I want to have my class on
>a list.

Not to be too obvious, but just about everyone here is using mailman as a 
listserv ... and we're here to help newbies :)

Post your question and I'd wager someone can help.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] list-serve

[David Gibbs]

At 11:09 AM 12/29/2001, Joe Wise wrote:
>I thought so.  Here goes.  I set up a new list and it sends me a
>confirmation e-mail that I have a new list set up.  I go to the website to
>configure my list as the administrator.  I then try to join my list.  I get
>an e-mail saying that I have to respond in order for my request to be
>validated.  I resspond and get a mail daemon saying that the user is not
>known.

Question the first: What version of Mailman are you using?

Question the second: Did you register the aliases for the list with your 
mail server?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] create script missing in 2.0.8 installation

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> I just installed mailman 2.0.8, and was able to use the command-line to
>  create a test list, and also a functioning (non-test) list.  However,
> there  seems to be no "create" script as the documentation seems to
> suggest.  Is  this right?  Or is my install broken?

Check in the bin directory for the 'newlist' command.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] rung 2.1 and 2.0.8 in parallel??

[David Gibbs]

Tom Perrine said:
> Has anyone tried running the 2.1 and 2.0.8 version on the same host at
> the same time?

Yep, works fine.

Just install 2.1 in a different location and point your aliases to the new
location.

Might not be a bad idea to create a new userid & group for the new mailman
version, but I have no hard evidence of this.

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[Mailman-Users] SSL oddity

[David Gibbs]

Folks:

I've been playing around with using Mailman in a self-signed SSL enabled 
Apache server on my RH 7.2 system.

Nothing seems to work properly ... the pages display fine, but no input is 
processed.

It works fine when I use standard web access.

Any suggestions?

Thanks!

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[Mailman-Users] Re: 2.1 upgrade - fails on "topics"

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"Jay S Curtis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Hmmm... the upgrad fails on attribute: topics when trying to update the
> existing list... any ideas???

I think there are some problems with the update code ... I've sent some
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[Mailman-Users] Re: New list web interface

[David Gibbs]

"Ben Snyder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> I've been using Mailman for some time now, and would like to know
> if it's possible to make new mailing lists from the web
> interface.  You see, I now have mailman on a remote server
> with no ssh access.

You will be able to when 2.1 gets released.

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[Mailman-Users] Re: Remove a list

[David Gibbs]

"Jim Updegraff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Can anyone explain the procedure for removing a list? I've tried the
> rmlist command but that does not seem to work.

That's how you do it.

What about the rmlist command isn't working?

The '-a' parameter also gets rid of the archives for the list.

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[Mailman-Users] qrunner getting stuck on very large files

[David Gibbs]

Folks:

I'm running into a problem where qrunner will get stuck when it's trying
to process very large message files in the qfiles directory.

Usually, it appears, that it's the result of someone trying to send klez
to a list (not deliberately, of course) ... but the end result is, qrunner
stops and the list is no longer processed.

I can fix the problem by killing the qrunner processes (there are usually
a few of them), deleting the lock files, and deleting the large msg files
in the qfiles directory.

I'd like to put in place some kind of protection against this.

I've tried putting an anti-klez procmail filter in place system wide, but
it does not appear to affect aliases.

Thanks!

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[Mailman-Users] Re: Creating reports

[David Gibbs]

"Heather J. Lubinsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> We have about 60 lists and 10,000 people -- Every month I need to report
how
> many on each list.

I've got a couple of scripts I hacked together to do just that... it isn't
the most elegent solution, but it works.

It requires a modification to the list_lists script and a new list-summary
shell script...

Here's a patch for the list_lists script...

--->>>---
--- list_lists_old  Wed Aug 29 22:29:11 2001
+++ list_lists  Fri Jul 12 06:11:35 2002
@@ -26,6 +26,10 @@
 -a
 List only those mailing lists that are publically advertised

+--bare
+-b
+Displays only the list name, no description
+
 --virtual-host-overview=domain
 -V domain
 List only those mailing lists that are homed to the given virtual
@@ -60,13 +64,14 @@


 def main():
 try:
-opts, args = getopt.getopt(sys.argv[1:], 'aV:h',
+opts, args = getopt.getopt(sys.argv[1:], 'abV:h',
['advertised', 'virtual-host-overview=',
-'help'])
+'bare', 'help'])
 except getopt.error, msg:
 usage(1, msg)

 advertised = 0
+bare = 0
 vhost = None

 for opt, arg in opts:
@@ -74,6 +79,8 @@
 usage(0)
 elif opt in ('-a', '--advertised'):
 advertised = 1
+elif opt in ('-b', '--bare'):
+bare = 1
 elif opt in ('-V', '--virtual-host-overview'):
 vhost = arg

@@ -93,15 +100,21 @@
 mlists.append(mlist)
 longest = max(len(mlist.real_name), longest)

-if not mlists:
+if not mlists and not bare:
 print 'No matching mailing lists found'
 return

-print len(mlists), 'matching mailing lists found:'
+if not bare:
+   print len(mlists), 'matching mailing lists found:'
+
 format = '%%%ds - %%.%ds' % (longest, 77 - longest)
+
 for mlist in mlists:
 description = mlist.description or '[no description available]'
-print '   ', format % (mlist.real_name, description)
+if bare:
+print mlist.real_name
+else:
+print '   ', format % (mlist.real_name, description)


 if __name__ == '__main__':

--->>>---

And here's the main script to build a summary html page ...

--->>>---
#! /bin/sh

MAILMAN="/usr/local/home/mailman/bin"
BASEURL="http://lists.midrange.com/cgi-bin";
TITLE="MIDRANGE dot COM Public Mailing List Statistics"

TMPNAME=`basename $0`

TMPFILE=`mktemp /tmp/$TMPNAME.XX` || exit 1

for LIST in `$MAILMAN/list_lists --advertised --bare`
do
$MAILMAN/list_members $LIST >> $TMPFILE
done

COUNT=`sort --ignore-case $TMPFILE|uniq --ignore-case|wc --lines`

cat <


$TITLE




$TITLE


  

  
  Membership


  List Name
  Total
  Regular
  Digest

EOF1

TOTAL_BOTH=0
TOTAL_REGULAR=0
TOTAL_DIGEST=0

for LIST in `$MAILMAN/list_lists --advertised --bare`
do
BOTH=`$MAILMAN/list_members $LIST|wc -l`
REGULAR=`$MAILMAN/list_members --regular $LIST|wc -l`
DIGEST=`$MAILMAN/list_members --digest $LIST|wc -l`
let TOTAL_BOTH=$(($TOTAL_BOTH+$BOTH))
let TOTAL_REGULAR=$(($TOTAL_REGULAR+$REGULAR))
let TOTAL_DIGEST=$(($TOTAL_DIGEST+$DIGEST))
cat <
  $LIST
  $BOTH
  $REGULAR
  $DIGEST

EOF2

done

cat <
  Grand Total
  $TOTAL_BOTH
  $TOTAL_REGULAR
  $TOTAL_DIGEST


  


Total unique mailing list subscribers (all lists): $COUNT

EOF3

TODAY=`date`

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[Mailman-Users] Re: Double Opt-In?

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"Michael Keukert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> I'm using Smartlist at the moment, but I need a mailing list manager
> which provides double opt-in features.

What is "Double opt-in"?

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[Mailman-Users] Re: Everything stopped after upgrade

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> Interestingly, this started at 08:52 in the morning, a time that I
> guarantee does not coincide with the upgrade, which would have been
> closer to noon. My error log is now 750KB in size, I doubt if more than
> 10KB of that is from before today. The first entry is from Jan 15 2001,
> and it only takes a couple of screens to get down to this morning.

I ran into the same problem ... I had to reverse out the patch and wait for
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[Mailman-Users] Re: Double Opt-In?

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"Michael Keukert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> I'm using Smartlist at the moment, but I need a mailing list manager
> which provides double opt-in features.
> Does Mailman has it?

Based on the definition of double opt-in that someone pointed me to, I would
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[Mailman-Users] Virtual hosting overview?

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Anyone know of a good overview or how-to for setting up Mailman 2.0.x with
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[Mailman-Users] Block messages with klez?

[David Gibbs]

Anyone know of a way to easily block messages that contain the Klez virus in
2.0.13?

I've got a attachment stripping patch on my install of Mailman, so the Klez
payload isn't delivered, but the blank messages are still being sent
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[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman and Domino; can't get mail back to mailman

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> I have mailman on a slackware box with sendmail.ww1.mydomain.com
> The mailserver for ww1 is mx.mydomain.com. It is a WinNT box running
Domino
> Mail Server.

Seems like a pretty basic problem to me ...

You need to get the mail to your linux box.  Either send the mail to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (make sure your mailman and sendmail is suitably aware
of the domain change), or configure the domino server to redirct to the list
aliases to the same alias on the linux box.

I try to avoid Domino at all costs (I knew a guy who administered Domino
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Re: [Mailman-Users] HTML from email appearing in archives?

[David Gibbs]

There's a great patch on the sourceforge project site that will allow
you to strip out HTML from the list on a per list basis.
 
> This seems like it should be an FAQ but I couldn't find the question 
> answered anywhere. I'm running an archiving list using Mailman but 
> some users post email with HTML tags in it, and these appear verbatim 
> in the email archives - I see text like
>...  ...
> in the html files created by the archives.
> What is the recommended way to deal with this problem of HTML tags 
> appearing in the email archives (I'm using Mailman 2.06 with 
> ARCHIVE_TO_MBOX = 2)?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Filter Attachments

[David Gibbs]

> Do you know a way to filter any kind of attachments in Mailman v.2.2? I 
> would like that members of the list could receive only
> text email .

Check out Jeff Dairiki's great HTML filter patch ...

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=413752&group_id=103&atid=300103

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Re: [Mailman-Users] email list question

[David Gibbs]

> Can we add email addresses to the database without having to confirm
> their address?  

add_members command in the bin directory

> Is there a way to export the addresses?

Export?  What format?   For a simple plaintext dump of the membership
try using the list_members command, also in the mailman bin directory.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Is there a way to disable attachments?

[David Gibbs]

Check out patch #413752 at 
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=413752&group_id=103&atid=300103

> 
> 
> Is there a way to disable attachments sent to a Mailman list?  Id like to
> use it as a security feature and also to prevent possible screwups with
> those on digest.
> 
> Thanks for any info.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Is there a way to disable attachments?

[David Gibbs]

> I need to clarify what Im looking for.  Disabling attachments altogether is
> a great option to have, but what Id like to do is be able to disable
> attachments ONLY for those members on digest mode on my mailman list.  Is
> this possible as well?

Ah, not with the patch I refered you too.  That disables attachments
entirely (HTML attachments being the most important).

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Re: [Mailman-Users] from majordomo to Mailman ... questions, please help.

[David Gibbs]

At 05:27 PM 10/30/2001, you wrote:
>1.  I have a lot of lists on majordomo to transfer to Mailman ... any
> suggestions on how to do this easily and quickly without sending a
> million notices to the addresses moved to Mailman.  (I want the change
> to be transparent to the users, other than the added features of
> Mailman.)

Did that a few months ago ... wasn't difficult.

All you have to do is use the add_members command and specify " 
--changes-msg=n --welcome-msg=n" as parameters.

>2.  I have years of majordomo archives that I would like to move to
> Mailman ... is this possible?  And, if so, what is a quick and easy
> way to do this?

That I'm not sure about ... I archive directly with mhonarc and was able to 
adapt my mailman configuration to use the same script that majordomo used 
to create the archives.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] stripping out HTML

[David Gibbs]

At 09:06 AM 11/22/2001, you wrote:
>yes, I know this is a frequently asked question and I know it's mostly 
>sendmail related.

Not really sendmail related (IMHO).

>I want to strip out HTML/attachments from incoming mail messages.  I've 
>done some research and settled on using stripmime.pl until stripping out 
>mime stripping is incorporated into Mailman.  Unfortunately, I'm having 
>trouble getting it running with sendmail/smrsh.  I am running Mailman 2.0.5

My personal recommendation ... upgrade to mailman 2.0.6 (at minimum, 
probably best to go to 2.0.7) and apply Geoff Dairiki's demime patch.

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=413752&group_id=103&atid=300103

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman - unwanted subscriptions.

[David Gibbs]

> > Is there a way to ban a certain e-mail from subscribing to a list?
> Yeah, but it's a waste of time and effort for 
> determined troublemakers.  It takes about a minute to 
> get a new email account on any of a bazillion free email 
> servers.  So, I block [EMAIL PROTECTED], and your next 
> move is to become [EMAIL PROTECTED] and 
> you're back in.

The obvious solution is to restrict posting to subscribers.

You get a lot of messages in the managment queue, but that's 
a (very) small price to pay.

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[Mailman-Users] Re: /root/6lcnGM: Permission denied

[David Gibbs]

"Timothy Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> For some reason, when half the people on my list send a message to the
> list, it comes through like this:
> /root/6lcnGM: Permission denied

Redhat right?

Check out http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg14584.html

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[Mailman-Users] Re: tokens for confirmations are too long

[David Gibbs]

Thomas Hochstein wrote:
The problem is that any URL longer than 80 characters will be chopped 
by many mail clients- Eudora, for example.  
Perhaps one should rather fix such broken clients?
If only that were feasable. :)

Far easier to change one product, to provide a more compatible token, 
than to fix multiple mail clients to deal with the incompatible token.

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[Mailman-Users] Invalid reactivation tokens?

[David Gibbs]

Folks:

I've had a number of people mention to me that, when their mailing list 
subscription gets deactivated due to mail bounces, when they try to 
reactivate their subscription using the mailed token, Mailman tells them 
that the token is invalid.

Has anyone else experienced this?  Is there a fix?

Any suggestions on how to replicate it?

Thanks!

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[Mailman-Users] Re: Automatically reject Spamassassin Tagged Spam?

[David Gibbs]

Ralf Hildebrandt wrote:
How can I configure Mailman to automatically discard Mails that have "***
SPAM ***" in the subject header?
I'm only beginning to investigate this option, but check out the new
header_filter_rules (in the Privacy / Spam Filters category).
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[Mailman-Users] Re: Automatically reject Spamassassin Tagged Spam?

[David Gibbs]

Ralf Hildebrandt wrote:
I'm only beginning to investigate this option, but check out the new
header_filter_rules (in the Privacy / Spam Filters category).
Or do I need 2.1.4?
Yes, sorry, I was imprecise.

This is a new feature in 2.1.4.

Right now I'm trying to improve the logging when a message is discarded.

Python is hard when you're used to RPG and Java :)

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[Mailman-Users] Re: Automatically reject Spamassassin Tagged Spam?

[David Gibbs]

David Gibbs wrote:
Right now I'm trying to improve the logging when a message is discarded.
Python is hard when you're used to RPG and Java :)
FWIW: I just uploaded a patch that improves the logging when a message 
is discarded due to a spam filter rule.

It can be found at 
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=869394&group_id=103&atid=300103 
or http://tinyurl.com/2j9tl.

The new vette log entry should look something like:
Jan 02 10:43:04 2004 (7665) testlist post from
[EMAIL PROTECTED] discarded, msgid:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Message discarded by filter rule match
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[Mailman-Users] Re: Spam Issue

[David Gibbs]

Lee Murrah wrote:
Is there any way to simply discard all non-member email or check Discard for
all messages?
Check out 
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=810675&group_id=103&atid=300103 
or http://tinyurl.com/2ta25.

I just applied this patch and love it.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: Spam Issue

[David Gibbs]

Fernando Barajas wrote:
Check out 
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=810675&group_id=103&atid=300103 
or http://tinyurl.com/2ta25.
How do you apply this patch?
Try: patch -p0 < discard-all-defers.patch

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[Mailman-Users] Re: Sendmail to Postfix

[David Gibbs]

T. Glen Haggard wrote:
What would I have to do to switch from Sendmail to Postfix? Would have to
re-install Mailman or can I just switch remove Sendmail and install Postfix?
Mailman doesn't really care what MTA you are using.

So, yes, you should be able to just remove sendmail and install postfix 
and you're good to go.

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[Mailman-Users] Re: Discarding all held mail

[David Gibbs]

John Poltorak wrote:
I have let me posted by non-members accumulate over months and now there 
is quite a bit of it. Can I get rid of it all in one go, or do I need to 
discard each post individually?
Check out this patch: 
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=810675&group_id=103&atid=300103 
or http://tinyurl.com/2ta25

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[Mailman-Users] Force a probe message?

[David Gibbs]

Folks:
Anyone know if there is a way to force a probe message to go out for a 
subscriber?

I have a subscriber who's mail appears to be bouncing ... but it's going 
back to the original author of the message and not the list address.

I'd like to force their subscription into such a state as a probe 
message is sent out so it can be disabled if the email address is indeed 
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[Mailman-Users] Surpress probe messages?

[David Gibbs]

Anyone know if there is a way to suppress the probe messages that go out 
when a subscriber starts bouncing?

Thanks!
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[Mailman-Users] Re: Tuning mailman and sendmail

[David Gibbs]

Sasa Stupar wrote:
I have installed sendmail 8.12.11 and Mailman 2.1.5 on RH8. The problem 
is that it takes a long time to send messages to all subscribed users 
(1+).
So I am wondering if there is something I can configure in sendmail or 
mailman to run faster?
Check out 
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq06.003.htp

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Re: [Mailman-Users] SPAM Control

[David Gibbs]

Christopher X. Candreva wrote:
> If you aren't already, DNSbl's to block connects from dynamic IPs, known 
> infected networks, spammers, etc. We're using combined.njabl.org, 
> sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org, and list.dsbl.org

In addition, I've found that greylisting the -admin, -join, -owner,
-request, and -subscribe, email addresses does a wonderful job of
reducing the drek that gets sent to the lists.

I've only had to greylist those addresses for 2 minutes to see good results.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman page won't display in browser (using VPN)

[David Gibbs]

Tristan Colson wrote:
> Mailman works fine from directly within our network, it just doesn't 
> work when I am using the VPN. 

Any chance there's a web proxy being used that is intercepting web
requests and doing some kind of filtering or translation?

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[Mailman-Users] SpamDetect loop?

[David Gibbs]

Folks:

Since I upgraded to MM 2.1.7 I've noticed something odd in my admin
queue ... it appears that messages coming through the SpamDetect
pipeline for the owner-address are getting into a loop.

Basically, if I get a message in my admin queue for 'out of office'
(simple spam filter), I get dozens if not hundreds of the following also
in my admin queue ...

---
As list administrator, your authorization is requested for the
following mailing list posting:

List:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
From:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RPG400-L post from [EMAIL PROTECTED] requires approval
Reason:  The message headers matched a filter rule

At your convenience, visit:

http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/admindb/rpg400-l

to approve or deny the request.
As list administrator, your authorization is requested for the
following mailing list posting:

List:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
From:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: user CV Rao/PGG/example is out of the office.
Reason:  The message headers matched a filter rule

At your convenience, visit:

http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/admindb/rpg400-l

to approve or deny the request.

I will be out of the office starting  11/01/2006 and will not return until
07/02/2006.
---

It *APPEARS* to me that the spam detect filters are keying on the "out
of office" message that is included in the original message.

As an experiment, I've removed the SpamDetect entry from the
OWNER_PIPELINE entry in mm_cfg.py.

Any other suggestions?

Thanks!

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Re: [Mailman-Users] SpamDetect loop?

[David Gibbs]

Mark Sapiro wrote:
> There are a few things going on. Did you upgrade from 2.1.6 or from
> pre-2.1.6? 

2.1.5 with some custom patches (nothing major, just text changes & the
like).

> Starting in 2.1.6, header_filter_rules are applied to the
> headers of sub-parts which might cause a problem if the admin
> notification contains something that matches, BUT there is a safety
> valve in that the SpamDetect process is never supposed to be applied
> to internally generated messages such as admin notifications.

Ok, that does appear to be what is happening ... but the safety valve
doesn't seem to be kicking in.

> So something is going wrong here, but I don't know what. I will
> investigate, but if you could send me off list what your
> header_filter_rules are and a copy of the original problem message, it
> may help me.

I'll send that under separate cover :)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] SpamDetect loop?

[David Gibbs]

Tokio Kikuchi wrote:
> I've coded that bug in the last minute of releasing. :-(

Doh!

> I think I can generate a patch, but in the meantime, please copy the
> SpamDetect.py file from 2.1.6 distribution and restart.

I've temporarily removed the SpamDetect module from the owner pipeline
and it seems to be working ok for now.

david

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Re: [Mailman-Users] SpamDetect loop?

[David Gibbs]

> Can you test this patch?

Ok.

> Removing SpamDetect from the owner pipeline means spams pass through to
> the list owner.  This should be inconvenient.

Eh ... I'm not 100% sure that particular module is all that effective.
I've been using one of the SpamAssassin integrations (from the patches
repository on sf) to great effect.

I'll let you know how the patch works ... I've applied it and re-enabled
the SpamDetect module in the owners pipeline.

david

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Re: [Mailman-Users] SpamDetect loop?

[David Gibbs]

Tokio Kikuchi wrote:
> Can you test this patch?

Seems to be working fine.

david
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