[Mailman-Users] turn off moderation notification to the sender?

[Chip Mefford]

Is this doable?

On one of my lists, the folks running the list have
asked if I could disable the moderation notification
that gets send to the poster.

I'm not exactly comfortable doing this, but it
does make a certain sense in this particular
case. However, I don't see such an option.

Clues?
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[Mailman-Users] news gateway question, importing archive

[Chip Mefford]

Good day;

I have mailman archive with ~4K emails going back a couple of years.

I'd like to copy these over to a newsgroup on a local innd server.

The archive is the regular mbox format, and I've played around with
formail and mailpost a bit, with no joy.

Is there a simple way of doing this that I'm just too clueless to
catch?

Thanks kindly in advance for any clues.

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[Mailman-Users] Has there been an update to this issue? archiving incorrectly parse

[Chip Mefford]

messages?
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=953320&group_id=103&atid=100103
Thanks in advance for any help.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Has there been an update to this issue? archivingincorrectly parse

[Chip Mefford]

Mark Sapiro wrote:
Chip Mefford wrote:
messages?
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=953320&group_id=103&atid=100103
Two comments were added today.
Thanks in advance for any help.
This problem is fixable by "escaping" the offending "^From .*$" lines
in the listname.mbox/listname.mbox file, either manually or with
bin/cleanarch and then rebuilding the archive with bin/arch --wipe.
Thanks kindly,
I'll pass that along.
Big help, really
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[Mailman-Users] ValueError: unpack list of wrong size

[Chip Mefford]

I'm stumped.
The domain.tld is not real, and listname is not the
real name.
Mailman 2.1.5 built from src on fedora core 1,
using postfix-to-mailman.py and virtual domains,
virtual users, and virtual everything.
Works really well, honestly, except this one thing
that cropped up this week.
Here is a test message to the mailling list
that handles all the big bosses internal mail.
Using mailman for this purpose to archive these
emails and to add a certain level of anti-spamming.
System has 43 lists, about 300 subscribers more or less,
and doesn't suffer much load.
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Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]@tld>
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 15:47:19 -0400
From: Chip Mefford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]@tld>
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040913
X-Accept-Language: en-us, en
MIME-Version: 1.0
To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]@tld
Subject: Test message, please ignore and delete
X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0
X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Thank you.
- ---
Here is the germane part of the maillog;
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Oct 22 15:47:27 smail postfix/qmgr[29335]: E01F811AF18:
from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=1310, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Oct 22 15:47:27 smail postfix/smtpd[13631]: disconnect from
localhost[127.0.0.1]
Oct 22 15:47:27 smail amavis[13537]: (13537-05) Passed,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Message-ID:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Hits: -4.901
Oct 22 15:47:27 smail amavis[13537]:
|>AMAVIS DEBUGGING SNIPPED FOR CLARITY<<
Oct 22 15:47:27 smail postfix/smtp[13628]: 1761D11AE50:
to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1], delay=2,
status=sent (250 2.6.0 Ok, id=13537-05, from MTA: 250 Ok: queued as
E01F811AF18)
Oct 22 15:47:27 smail postfix/local[13645]: E01F811AF18:
to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=local, delay=1, status=sent
("|/var/mailman/mail/mailman post listname")
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Here is the mailman error;
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Oct 22 15:47:27 2004 (1205) Uncaught runner exception: unpack list of
wrong size
Oct 22 15:47:27 2004 (1205) Traceback (most recent call last):
~  File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 111, in _oneloop
~self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
~  File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 167, in _onefile
~keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
~  File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 130, in
_dispose
~more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline)
~  File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 153, in
_dopipeline
~sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata)
~  File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 91, in process
~send_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
~  File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 132, in
send_digests
~send_i18n_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
~  File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 306, in
send_i18n_digests
~msg = scrubber(mlist, msg)
~  File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py", line 265, in process
~url = save_attachment(mlist, part, dir)
~  File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py", line 359, in
save_attachment
~fnext = os.path.splitext(msg.get_filename(''))[1]
~  File
"/usr/src/build/403499-i386/install/var/mailman/pythonlib/email/Message.py",
line 725, in get_filename
~  File
"/usr/src/build/403499-i386/install/var/mailman/pythonlib/email/Message.py",
line 608, in get_param
~  File
"/usr/src/build/403499-i386/install/var/mailman/pythonlib/email/Message.py",
line 555, in _get_params_preserve
~  File
"/usr/src/build/403499-i386/install/var/mailman/pythonlib/email/Utils.py",
line 337, in decode_params
~  File
"/usr/src/build/403499-i386/install/var/mailman/pythonlib/email/Utils.py",
line 284, in decode_rfc2231
ValueError: unpack list of wrong size
Oct 22 15:47:27 2004 (1205) SHUNTING:
1098474447.128068+0fd291017a5c65fe688e307bc43d6a453d177012
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Nothing sent to this particular mailing list has gone through in a
week.
other lists seem to be working fine. Yes, there are some other shunted
messages, but I haven't diagnosed them.
But this message was very simple, no wierd mimetypes, no weird encoding,
no attachments,
I also don't understand the build path being in the error log
output for the scripts.
The path '/var/mailman/pythonlib/email/' is valid, the
path '/usr/src/build/' is not valid.
But this probably doesn't have any bearing here.
Halp!
Thanx in advance
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Odd smtp-error

[Chip Mefford]

Rich West wrote:
Interesting.. in investigating another problem, I noticed the following 
in the smtp-error file:
Oct 22 12:14:49 2004 (4223) All recipients refused: 
{'[EMAIL PROTECTED]': (550, '5.1.1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... User 
unknown')}, msgid: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Doesn't look like a mailman problem,
looks like a smtp problem.
I tried sending directly to this account
via smtp, and it worked fine.
Will need more verbose logging to figure this
out.
Are you sending via the correct relay (wesmo.com)
?
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Re: [Mailman-Users] In it possible to have Accept ticked by default?

[Chip Mefford]

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Mark Sapiro wrote:
| Rodger Copp wrote:
|
|
|>Excuse me for asking something that may be obvious or has been asked
|>before. I searched the FAQ and archives and didn't find anything
|>related. I am not the administrator for our installation of Mailman, I'm
|>just a suit that has a question/suggestion.
|>
|>Is it possible to have the Accept selection ticked by default instead
|>of Defer for Mailman's Moderator Administration page? If it's not
|>possible, perhaps you can put it on your "To Do" list.
|
|
| I don't think you'd want this. If it worked this way, and you happened
| not to explicitly review and set each message before 'submitting all
| data' (say you didn't happen to scroll all the way down), then
| messages you hadn't seen would be approved.
You can do it in the code. I've done similar things to change
default behavior.
However, it does beg the question, why not just set
the default non-member action to accept, if that's
going to be the default action anyway? Then you can hand-add abusers
to blacklists elsewhere.


|
| Approving a message you haven't reviewed is a potentially more serious
| problem than forgetting to tick the approved box and having to do it a
| second time.
|
| That said, feature requests can be submitted at
| http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=103&atid=350103
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Questions

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Brad Knowles wrote:
| At 10:12 AM +0100 2005-04-14, Filipe Carrera wrote:
|
SNIP
|
|>  What are the main diferences between Mailman and Yahoo Groups?
|
| See
| .
There are other considerations as well that may or may not be important.
Reasons that I use mailman, and willingly host mailman lists for others
as opposed to using Yahoo groups include;
~  I have no commercial interest in providing the "free" service.
~  I am not aware under what model the Yahoo "free" service operates.
~a, Seems that all the yahoo groups messages I ever receive
~   have an advertisement attached. While I am no opposed to
~   advertising, I don't like having my name associated with
~   products and services with which I have no experience and
~   may be unwilling to endorse.
~b, I am concerned, due to Yahoo's eula, that email addresses
~   may be shared with commercial vendors, and that signing
~   up for a Yahoo group implies at least some level of "opt-in".
~  Also, I can control and deal with "issues" as they arise with my
~  mailman lists. Yahoo has all the control of their groups. This isn't
~  necessarily a bad thing, but it's hard to say who will end up owning
~  Yahoo's intellectual property in the future.
There are many other concerns I have with services such as Yahoo groups.
I think Yahoo is doing a good job providing their customers with good
service in many regards. I personally don't want to play by their rules,
so I make my own playground and invite others to play there if they
wish.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Best way to slow down all the spam to my lists?

[Chip Mefford]

Good day all:

- Original Message -
> From: "Chromatest J. Pantsmaker" 
> To: mailman-users@python.org
> Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2019 12:46:14 PM
> Subject: [Mailman-Users] Best way to slow down all the spam to my lists?

> I'm the system admin (though I'm not great at it).  I have a problem with
> spam.  Hundreds of spam messages are posted to my lists each week.  They're
> non-subscribers so they don't go to the lists, but they *do* go to me, the
> list owner which floods my inbox.
>SNIP

just a fwiw:

years back, I ran a pretty fun mailman instance that handled a lot of internal
tasks, and was integrated into a doc management system, was glued to a few
ticket management systems, archived all of our accounting stuff, did hylafax, 
all kinds of fun tricky things

Of course, these internal lists got spammed all the time. 

as an email sysadmin, I had notifications turned off, and it was
part of the weekly checklist to log into the admin section of these lists
and clear out all of the moderation stuff. 

These seldom went over a few hundred per list per week, so it didn't actually 
take all that long. 
kind of a fri or mon morning-over-coffee task that I always suspected could be
automated, but in-the-end, was a thing that really was best handled by someone 
who
cared about 'delivering the mail' ! (aka, the postmaster's job). 

fwiw.
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