[Mailman-Users] Re: Month of March archives webpage has no messages showing

[David Andrews via Mailman-Users]

At 01:49 AM 3/11/2025, Mark Sapiro wrote:

On 3/11/25 12:32 PM, Jim Dory wrote:
I realize this may be a CPanel issue, but 
perhaps someone familiar with that can help out.
The web page for the list archives says 60 
messages but none are visible. The messages are 
in the list directory. The unusual thing for 
this month is the "Starting: None". The other 
months previous all have the start date of the 
beginning of that particular month.
The shared server I'm hosted on is using UTC 
time of the server location, not my location. 
So although it is March 10 here now as I write 
this, it is showing March 11 tomorrow morning. 
I don't know if I'm supposed to change it to my 
location or leave it.. has been an issue 
particularly before. So I'm inclined to leave it.

Here's the March archives listing:

 Â March 2025 Archives by thread
 Â * *Messages sorted by:*[ subject ]
 Â 
 
[ author
 Â Â  ] 
[ date ]
 Â 
 

 Â * *More info on this list... 
*

*Starting:*/None/


None is strange here.


*Ending:*/Tue Mar 11 04:59:52 UTC 2025/
*Messages:*60


Links to all the messages should be here.


*Last message date:*/Tue Mar 11 04:59:52 UTC 2025/
*Archived on:*/Tue Mar 11 05:00:02 UTC 2025/
 Â * *Messages sorted by:*[ subject ]
 Â 
 
[ author
 Â Â  ] 
[ date ]
 Â 
 

 Â * *More info on this list... 
*


/This archive was generated by Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition)./


The above is a static page (re)generated by 
Mailman with each post. This process is not 
happening correctly. It is another cPanel issue 
with the upgrade, but I have no idea what is 
wrong or how to fix it. 
https://support.cpanel.net/hc/en-us/community/posts/29645975750423/comments/30554741757079 
points out this issue.


It appears cPanel Mailman is now running under 
Python 3. I'm not surprised there are issues. 
Migrating Mailman 2.1 to Python 3 is not an easy task,


The other day, I read in the Mailman roadmap it 
said they were upgrading to Python 3. It also 
said they were "taking over the maintenance of 
Mailman." Not sure what they meant, but I guess 
we are starting to see the fallout of this!


Dave


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[Mailman-Users] Re: Month of March archives webpage has no messages showing

[Stephen J. Turnbull]

David Andrews via Mailman-Users writes:
 > At 01:49 AM 3/11/2025, Mark Sapiro wrote:

 > >It appears cPanel Mailman is now running under Python 3. I'm not
 > >surprised there are issues. Migrating Mailman 2.1 to Python 3 is
 > >not an easy task,
 > 
 > The other day, I read in the Mailman roadmap it said they were
 > upgrading to Python 3. It also said they were "taking over the
 > maintenance of Mailman." Not sure what they meant, but I guess we
 > are starting to see the fallout of this!

I would guess it means they don't want to support migration of Mailman
2 sites to Mailman 3, and it's less effort to port Mailman 2 to Python
3. and support that product for them in the long run.

I don't think this is going to be good for their customers (who have
traditionally treated us as the first responders even for cPanel-
specific features), but we'll see.  Perhaps the contingent who have
been advocating for a continuation of the Mailman 2 product for a
decade will join the cPanel user/development community.  That
combination might have legs if cPanel is smart.

Steve

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