[Mailman-Users] Re: from_is_list munging not working

2024-05-19 Thread Russell Clemings
Well, a couple of posts just came through on another list and they were
properly munged. I'll compare the two list configurations and report back.

On Sat, May 18, 2024 at 8:30 PM Mark Sapiro  wrote:

> On 5/18/24 9:43 PM, Russell Clemings wrote:
> >
> > I sent the post from my Yahoo account with no cc's and it was received by
> > my Gmail account, albeit in spam. My Yahoo account bounced the incoming
> > post from the list as did Comcast. The list owner (me) got bounce notices
> > from Mailman for both.
>
>
> Did those notices have a DSN attached that included the headers of the
> bounced mail, and if so, what did the From: look like. And were the
> bounces for DMARC or something else?
>
> Is Exim DKIM signing the outgoing mail. Does list.domain publish an SPF
> record, and if the IP changed does the SPF still allow the domain?
>
>
> > This is a test list. If nothing else from this strikes you as worth
> digging
> > into some more, I'll just wait until we have some on a real list and see
> if
> > anything looks different there.
>
> This may be an issue with cPanel's Mailman. Try setting Privacy
> options... -> Sender filters -> dmarc_moderation_action to Munge From.
> It should be irrelevant when General Options -> from_is_list = Munge
> From, but I don't know what cPanel might be doing.
>
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[Mailman-Users] Re: from_is_list munging not working

2024-05-19 Thread Russell Clemings
OK, so the "pipeline" section in the test list config I sent earlier was
not in the config for the list that was munging properly. I removed it from
the test list config and now it's munging too.

(How to remove pipeline from a single list: https://tinyurl.com/ydrd8z96)

As an aside, I'm now pretty sure this problem resulted not from the
hardware migration but from an experiment I did several years ago:

https://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2010-July/069944.html

(Note to self: Next time, clean up after yourself.)

Thanks for your patience.



On Sun, May 19, 2024 at 9:10 AM Russell Clemings 
wrote:

> Well, a couple of posts just came through on another list and they were
> properly munged. I'll compare the two list configurations and report back.
>
> On Sat, May 18, 2024 at 8:30 PM Mark Sapiro  wrote:
>
>> On 5/18/24 9:43 PM, Russell Clemings wrote:
>> >
>> > I sent the post from my Yahoo account with no cc's and it was received
>> by
>> > my Gmail account, albeit in spam. My Yahoo account bounced the incoming
>> > post from the list as did Comcast. The list owner (me) got bounce
>> notices
>> > from Mailman for both.
>>
>>
>> Did those notices have a DSN attached that included the headers of the
>> bounced mail, and if so, what did the From: look like. And were the
>> bounces for DMARC or something else?
>>
>> Is Exim DKIM signing the outgoing mail. Does list.domain publish an SPF
>> record, and if the IP changed does the SPF still allow the domain?
>>
>>
>> > This is a test list. If nothing else from this strikes you as worth
>> digging
>> > into some more, I'll just wait until we have some on a real list and
>> see if
>> > anything looks different there.
>>
>> This may be an issue with cPanel's Mailman. Try setting Privacy
>> options... -> Sender filters -> dmarc_moderation_action to Munge From.
>> It should be irrelevant when General Options -> from_is_list = Munge
>> From, but I don't know what cPanel might be doing.
>>
>> --
>> Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers,
>> San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan
>>
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>
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[Mailman-Users] Re: from_is_list munging not working

2024-05-19 Thread Mark Sapiro

On 5/19/24 6:03 PM, Russell Clemings wrote:

OK, so the "pipeline" section in the test list config I sent earlier was
not in the config for the list that was munging properly. I removed it from
the test list config and now it's munging too.



Had I looked more carefully at the config you posted initially, I might 
have seen that your list had a pipeline attribute and that it was based 
on an older version and was missing the WrapMessage handler which is why 
the From: wasn't munged.


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[Mailman-Users] Re: from_is_list munging not working

2024-05-19 Thread Russell Clemings
Mystery solved. Thanks again.

On Sun, May 19, 2024 at 4:24 PM Mark Sapiro  wrote:

> On 5/19/24 6:03 PM, Russell Clemings wrote:
> > OK, so the "pipeline" section in the test list config I sent earlier was
> > not in the config for the list that was munging properly. I removed it
> from
> > the test list config and now it's munging too.
>
>
> Had I looked more carefully at the config you posted initially, I might
> have seen that your list had a pipeline attribute and that it was based
> on an older version and was missing the WrapMessage handler which is why
> the From: wasn't munged.
>
> --
> Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers,
> San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan
>
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