[Mailman-Users] Re: Making Sure a Weekly Digest is Just Weekly

2023-11-04 Thread Michael Reeder -- Hygeia MS

Mark,

Thank you!

Ugh.  Dream Host does not give me cron job / command line access. I'll 
try begging them to do this, but more likely I'll have to manually 
release the Digest each week.


Or... Look into setting up my own Mailman service on my own virtual 
server... I am running a Mastodon instance, so I might be up for the 
challenge.  Maybe.


Thanks,
Michael

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On 11/3/2023 10:45 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:

On 11/3/23 16:23, Michael Reeder -- Hygeia MS wrote:


I have a "weekly digest".  It's new, but seems to be publishing at 
least twice per week (Wednesdays and Fridays).


The digest_volume_frequency setting has nothing to do with how often 
digests are sent. It controls how often the digest volume number is 
incremented and the digest issue number is reset.


If digest_send_periodic is Yes, periodic digests are sent whenever 
there are messages for the digest and cron/senddigests is run. I.e., 
The frequency of periodic digests is controlled by how often 
cron/senddigests is run by cron.




I have:
a) Already checked that it is set to "weekly"


As above, this has nothing to do with how often digests are sent.


b) Already double-checked that "digest_size_threshold" is set to 0.


Which means digests will never be sent based on size.


c) I have just changed "digest_send_periodic" from "Yes" to "No".

With the change in (C) above, have I fixed the problem?


No. You have ensured that digests will never be sent. c) says that 
digests will not be sent when cron/senddigests is run and b) says that 
digests will never be sent based on size.


What you want is to set digest_send_periodic to Yes and adjust 
mailman's crontab to run cron/senddigests weekly.



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[Mailman-Users] Re: Making Sure a Weekly Digest is Just Weekly

2023-11-04 Thread Michael Reeder -- Hygeia MS

All,

I'm appreciating and looking into the many suggestions so far.

**Anyone know which -- if any -- give cron job / CLI access?**

Thanks,
Michael

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On 11/3/2023 10:45 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:

On 11/3/23 16:23, Michael Reeder -- Hygeia MS wrote:


I have a "weekly digest".  It's new, but seems to be publishing at 
least twice per week (Wednesdays and Fridays).


The digest_volume_frequency setting has nothing to do with how often 
digests are sent. It controls how often the digest volume number is 
incremented and the digest issue number is reset.


If digest_send_periodic is Yes, periodic digests are sent whenever 
there are messages for the digest and cron/senddigests is run. I.e., 
The frequency of periodic digests is controlled by how often 
cron/senddigests is run by cron.




I have:
a) Already checked that it is set to "weekly"


As above, this has nothing to do with how often digests are sent.


b) Already double-checked that "digest_size_threshold" is set to 0.


Which means digests will never be sent based on size.


c) I have just changed "digest_send_periodic" from "Yes" to "No".

With the change in (C) above, have I fixed the problem?


No. You have ensured that digests will never be sent. c) says that 
digests will not be sent when cron/senddigests is run and b) says that 
digests will never be sent based on size.


What you want is to set digest_send_periodic to Yes and adjust 
mailman's crontab to run cron/senddigests weekly.



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[Mailman-Users] Re: Making Sure a Weekly Digest is Just Weekly

2023-11-04 Thread Mark Sapiro

On 11/4/23 11:27, Michael Reeder -- Hygeia MS wrote:


Ugh.  Dream Host does not give me cron job / command line access. I'll 
try begging them to do this, but more likely I'll have to manually 
release the Digest each week.



It is unlikely they will let you do this as it would affect all lists on 
the server, not just yours.


A manual process is not too bad. Set the list's digest_size_threshhold 
to zero so no digests are sent on size and set digest_send_periodic to 
No so none are sent by cron. Then when you want to send a digest, set 
_send_digest_now to Yes on the Digest options page and save changes. 
This will send the digest immediately if it has any messages.



Or... Look into setting up my own Mailman service on my own virtual 
server... I am running a Mastodon instance, so I might be up for the 
challenge.  Maybe.


If you're considering this, I would recommend Mailman 3. See 
https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/install.html


Mailman 2.1 is past end of life and will only become more difficult to 
support as time goes on. In particular, it requires Python 2 which is 
also end of life and is being dropped from many distros.


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