[Mailman-Users] Mailman's Functional Spec for users

2023-02-02 Thread Anthony
I'm new to Mailman and looking for how it treats address headers.  Mailman CC'd 
a sender's subscribed address and I want to know if publishing this address is 
the intended behaviour, rather than BCC.

My problem is with the docs at wiki.list.org/DOC/Home.  I haven't found a 
description of what a list manager does in terms of what behaviour to expect in 
use, rather than during configuration by users, manager or site admin.

The concept of a list manager is explained at www.list.org/mailman-member.txt, 
but not the basic operation.  Page 'Introduction - What is GNU Mailman?' belies 
its heading and is focussed on 'How do I...' (e.g. 'How do I spell Mailman?').  
I found only Reply-to headers mentioned in the List Administration Manual.

There's a lot to search and I don't know my way around as a developer.  Where 
should I be looking?
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[Mailman-Users] Setting Mailman Moderator Password

2023-02-02 Thread dhkaplan21
I maintain a website via Hostmonster that uses Mailman for an email group 
reflector. When I receive a moderation request I am taken to a page that says: 
If you have Mailman moderator access enter the list moderator password, or 
login via Hostmonster's Channel Webmail access (which I can do).

I would like to be able to save a step and enter the list moderator's password, 
but I don't know where to set it? Any help gratefully appreciated.
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[Mailman-Users] Re: Setting Mailman Moderator Password

2023-02-02 Thread Mark Sapiro

On 2/1/23 18:20, dhkapla...@gmail.com wrote:


I would like to be able to save a step and enter the list moderator's password, 
but I don't know where to set it? Any help gratefully appreciated.



In the admin UI on the Passwords page. Hopefully you have access to this 
at some URL like https://your.domain/mailman/admin/list_name/passwords


You may already have an administrator password, in which case you can 
use that.


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[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman's Functional Spec for users

2023-02-02 Thread Mark Sapiro

On 2/1/23 16:51, Anthony wrote:

I'm new to Mailman and looking for how it treats address headers.  Mailman CC'd 
a sender's subscribed address and I want to know if publishing this address is 
the intended behaviour, rather than BCC.



Yes. It is always intended to include the poster's address to enable off 
list replies except in the one case of anonymous lists.



My problem is with the docs at wiki.list.org/DOC/Home.  I haven't found a 
description of what a list manager does in terms of what behaviour to expect in 
use, rather than during configuration by users, manager or site admin.

The concept of a list manager is explained at www.list.org/mailman-member.txt, 
but not the basic operation.  Page 'Introduction - What is GNU Mailman?' belies 
its heading and is focussed on 'How do I...' (e.g. 'How do I spell Mailman?').  
I found only Reply-to headers mentioned in the List Administration Manual.

There's a lot to search and I don't know my way around as a developer.  Where 
should I be looking?



At the code. Mailman 2.1 is past end of life, so don't expect any 
documentation updates. I think you will find some info about this 
specific question at 
https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mailman-coders/mailman/2.1/view/head:/Mailman/Handlers/CookHeaders.py#L201


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[Mailman-Users] Re: Setting Mailman Moderator Password

2023-02-02 Thread David Kaplan
Thanks, Mark, but that gets me to the page that asks for the password that I 
don’t know.

David



On Feb 2, 2023, at 12:37 PM, Mark Sapiro  wrote:

On 2/1/23 18:20, dhkapla...@gmail.com wrote:
> I would like to be able to save a step and enter the list moderator's 
> password, but I don't know where to set it? Any help gratefully appreciated.


In the admin UI on the Passwords page. Hopefully you have access to this at 
some URL like https://your.domain/mailman/admin/list_name/passwords

You may already have an administrator password, in which case you can use that.

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[Mailman-Users] Re: Setting Mailman Moderator Password

2023-02-02 Thread Mark Sapiro

On 2/2/23 15:55, David Kaplan wrote:

Thanks, Mark, but that gets me to the page that asks for the password that I 
don’t know.



This is cPanel (see https://wiki.list.org/DOC/Mailman%20and%20CPanel)

There must be a way for you to get to the Mailman admin UI even if you 
have to get there via your Hostmonster's Channel Webmail access login.


If all else fails, if you go to the admindb page for dealing with held 
messages and then click the "administrative interface" link near the 
bottom of that page or just change 'abmindb' to 'admin' in the URL, that 
should work.


If you still can't get to the admin UI, I can't be of further help 
because I don't know enough about cPanel.


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[Mailman-Users] Re: Setting Mailman Moderator Password

2023-02-02 Thread Russell Clemings
Maybe this helps:

https://docs.cpanel.net/whm/cpanel/reset-a-mailman-password/

On Thu, Feb 2, 2023 at 4:08 PM Mark Sapiro  wrote:

> On 2/2/23 15:55, David Kaplan wrote:
> > Thanks, Mark, but that gets me to the page that asks for the password
> that I don’t know.
>
>
> This is cPanel (see https://wiki.list.org/DOC/Mailman%20and%20CPanel)
>
> There must be a way for you to get to the Mailman admin UI even if you
> have to get there via your Hostmonster's Channel Webmail access login.
>
> If all else fails, if you go to the admindb page for dealing with held
> messages and then click the "administrative interface" link near the
> bottom of that page or just change 'abmindb' to 'admin' in the URL, that
> should work.
>
> If you still can't get to the admin UI, I can't be of further help
> because I don't know enough about cPanel.
>
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> San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan
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[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman's Functional Spec for users

2023-02-02 Thread Anthony
On Thu, 2 Feb 2023, at 5:44 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> On 2/1/23 16:51, Anthony wrote:
>> I'm new to Mailman and looking for how it treats address headers.  Mailman 
>> CC'd a sender's subscribed address and I want to know if publishing this 
>> address is the intended behaviour, rather than BCC.
>
> Yes. It is always intended to include the poster's address to enable off 
> list replies except in the one case of anonymous lists.
>
>> My problem is with the docs  [snip]
>> There's a lot to search and I don't know my way around as a developer.  
>> Where should I be looking?
>
> At the code. Mailman 2.1 is past end of life, so don't expect any 
> documentation updates. I think you will find some info about this 
> specific question at 
> https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mailman-coders/mailman/2.1/view/head:/Mailman/Handlers/CookHeaders.py#L201

Kudos on the comment to code ratio!   All is clarified at lines 204 and 272, 
many thanks for your help.
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