[Mailman-Users] mailman2 issue - "Your message was rejected"

2022-09-28 Thread Yuki Nie
Hi all,


There is a question about mailman.


When I send an email to a mailling list from a non-member, I got the error msg 
"Your message was rejected". 
However, the non-member has been defined in accept_these_nonmembers = 
['test-info@xx'].


some options:

~~~
accept_these_nonmembers = ['test-info@xx']
hold_these_nonmembers = []
reject_these_nonmembers = []
discard_these_nonmembers = []
generic_nonmember_action = 2
nonmember_rejection_notice = ''
default_member_moderation = True
member_moderation_action = 1  //# Note that for member_moderation_action, 
0==Hold, 1=Reject,
topics_enabled = 0
~~~


Maybe it's not due to the non-member setting, since the error will be "Your 
message has been rejected, probably because you are not subscribed to the 
mailing list and ..." if the msg is rejected by non-member restriction.


The error msg in vette log just shows as below. How to investigate the issue 
further? 
vette:
~~~
May xx 10:xx:xx 2022 (2055) Message rejected, msgid: 
list: list name
handler: Moderate,
reason: Your message was rejected
~~~
Thank you!
Yuki
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[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman2 issue - "Your message was rejected"

2022-09-28 Thread dmitri maziuk

On 2022-09-27 11:16 PM, Yuki Nie wrote:


default_member_moderation = True
member_moderation_action = 1  //# Note that for member_moderation_action, 
0==Hold, 1=Reject,



What do these do?

Dima

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[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman2 issue - "Your message was rejected"

2022-09-28 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 9/27/2022 9:16 PM, Yuki Nie wrote:

When I send an email to a mailling list from a non-member, I got the error msg "Your 
message was rejected".
However, the non-member has been defined in accept_these_nonmembers = 
['test-info@xx'].


some options:
accept_these_nonmembers = ['test-info@xx']


Check the actual email headers, while the message might say it's coming from 
"asdf.com", the sending server could be "mail.asdf.com" and those two are 
different. May not be that exactly, look for things where the header doesn't 
exactly match the accept_these_nonmembers.


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[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman2 issue - "Your message was rejected"

2022-09-28 Thread Mark Sapiro

On 9/28/22 08:45, dmitri maziuk wrote:

On 2022-09-27 11:16 PM, Yuki Nie wrote:


default_member_moderation = True
member_moderation_action = 1  //# Note that for 
member_moderation_action, 0==Hold, 1=Reject,



What do these do?



default_member_moderation = True sets all new members moderated by 
default and member_moderation_action = 1 rejects posts from moderated 
members.


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[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman2 issue - "Your message was rejected"

2022-09-28 Thread Mark Sapiro

On 9/27/22 21:16, Yuki Nie wrote:


When I send an email to a mailling list from a non-member, I got the error msg "Your 
message was rejected".
However, the non-member has been defined in accept_these_nonmembers = 
['test-info@xx'].



The message `Your message was rejected` is almost certainly because the 
sender is actually a moderated member and member_moderation_notice is empty.


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[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman2 issue - "Your message was rejected"

2022-09-28 Thread Yuki Nie
Hi Mark,


I suspected the option before, but I couldn't check the rejected member from 
the following command, which shows the moderated members.


/usr/lib/mailman/bin/list_members -m 


Any other ways to confirm whether the issue is due to 
"default_member_moderation"? 


Yuki

At 2022-09-29 01:07:44, "Mark Sapiro"  wrote:
>On 9/27/22 21:16, Yuki Nie wrote:
>> 
>> When I send an email to a mailling list from a non-member, I got the error 
>> msg "Your message was rejected".
>> However, the non-member has been defined in accept_these_nonmembers = 
>> ['test-info@xx'].
>
>
>The message `Your message was rejected` is almost certainly because the 
>sender is actually a moderated member and member_moderation_notice is empty.
>
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[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman2 issue - "Your message was rejected"

2022-09-28 Thread Yuki Nie
Hi Dima,


I also checked the option before, but the rejected mail address didn't appear 
in the output of the following command.
/usr/lib/mailman/bin/list_members -m 
Is there any other ways to check whether the issue is due to 
"member_moderation_action"?


Yuki

At 2022-09-28 23:45:28, "dmitri maziuk"  wrote:
>On 2022-09-27 11:16 PM, Yuki Nie wrote:
>
>> default_member_moderation = True
>> member_moderation_action = 1  //# Note that for member_moderation_action, 
>> 0==Hold, 1=Reject,
>
>
>What do these do?
>
>Dima
>
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[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman2 issue - "Your message was rejected"

2022-09-28 Thread Yuki Nie
Hi,


Since the email can be sent as expected with the same configuration for another 
ML, 
I think there is no problem in the header. Anyway, I will check it again.




Besides, Are there any other suspected parts?



Yuki
At 2022-09-28 23:57:18, "Carl Zwanzig"  wrote:
>On 9/27/2022 9:16 PM, Yuki Nie wrote:
>> When I send an email to a mailling list from a non-member, I got the error 
>> msg "Your message was rejected".
>> However, the non-member has been defined in accept_these_nonmembers = 
>> ['test-info@xx'].
>> 
>> 
>> some options:
>> accept_these_nonmembers = ['test-info@xx']
>
>Check the actual email headers, while the message might say it's coming from 
>"asdf.com", the sending server could be "mail.asdf.com" and those two are 
>different. May not be that exactly, look for things where the header doesn't 
>exactly match the accept_these_nonmembers.
>
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