[Mailman-Users] mailman2 issue - "Your message was rejected"
Hi all, There is a question about mailman. When I send an email to a mailling list from a non-member, I got the error msg "Your message was rejected". However, the non-member has been defined in accept_these_nonmembers = ['test-info@xx']. some options: ~~~ accept_these_nonmembers = ['test-info@xx'] hold_these_nonmembers = [] reject_these_nonmembers = [] discard_these_nonmembers = [] generic_nonmember_action = 2 nonmember_rejection_notice = '' default_member_moderation = True member_moderation_action = 1 //# Note that for member_moderation_action, 0==Hold, 1=Reject, topics_enabled = 0 ~~~ Maybe it's not due to the non-member setting, since the error will be "Your message has been rejected, probably because you are not subscribed to the mailing list and ..." if the msg is rejected by non-member restriction. The error msg in vette log just shows as below. How to investigate the issue further? vette: ~~~ May xx 10:xx:xx 2022 (2055) Message rejected, msgid: list: list name handler: Moderate, reason: Your message was rejected ~~~ Thank you! Yuki -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman2 issue - "Your message was rejected"
On 2022-09-27 11:16 PM, Yuki Nie wrote: default_member_moderation = True member_moderation_action = 1 //# Note that for member_moderation_action, 0==Hold, 1=Reject, What do these do? Dima -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman2 issue - "Your message was rejected"
On 9/27/2022 9:16 PM, Yuki Nie wrote: When I send an email to a mailling list from a non-member, I got the error msg "Your message was rejected". However, the non-member has been defined in accept_these_nonmembers = ['test-info@xx']. some options: accept_these_nonmembers = ['test-info@xx'] Check the actual email headers, while the message might say it's coming from "asdf.com", the sending server could be "mail.asdf.com" and those two are different. May not be that exactly, look for things where the header doesn't exactly match the accept_these_nonmembers. z! -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman2 issue - "Your message was rejected"
On 9/28/22 08:45, dmitri maziuk wrote: On 2022-09-27 11:16 PM, Yuki Nie wrote: default_member_moderation = True member_moderation_action = 1 //# Note that for member_moderation_action, 0==Hold, 1=Reject, What do these do? default_member_moderation = True sets all new members moderated by default and member_moderation_action = 1 rejects posts from moderated members. -- Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman2 issue - "Your message was rejected"
On 9/27/22 21:16, Yuki Nie wrote: When I send an email to a mailling list from a non-member, I got the error msg "Your message was rejected". However, the non-member has been defined in accept_these_nonmembers = ['test-info@xx']. The message `Your message was rejected` is almost certainly because the sender is actually a moderated member and member_moderation_notice is empty. -- Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman2 issue - "Your message was rejected"
Hi Mark, I suspected the option before, but I couldn't check the rejected member from the following command, which shows the moderated members. /usr/lib/mailman/bin/list_members -m Any other ways to confirm whether the issue is due to "default_member_moderation"? Yuki At 2022-09-29 01:07:44, "Mark Sapiro" wrote: >On 9/27/22 21:16, Yuki Nie wrote: >> >> When I send an email to a mailling list from a non-member, I got the error >> msg "Your message was rejected". >> However, the non-member has been defined in accept_these_nonmembers = >> ['test-info@xx']. > > >The message `Your message was rejected` is almost certainly because the >sender is actually a moderated member and member_moderation_notice is empty. > >-- >Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, >San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan >-- >Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org >To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org >https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ >Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 >Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 >Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ >https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman2 issue - "Your message was rejected"
Hi Dima, I also checked the option before, but the rejected mail address didn't appear in the output of the following command. /usr/lib/mailman/bin/list_members -m Is there any other ways to check whether the issue is due to "member_moderation_action"? Yuki At 2022-09-28 23:45:28, "dmitri maziuk" wrote: >On 2022-09-27 11:16 PM, Yuki Nie wrote: > >> default_member_moderation = True >> member_moderation_action = 1 //# Note that for member_moderation_action, >> 0==Hold, 1=Reject, > > >What do these do? > >Dima > >-- >Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org >To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org >https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ >Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 >Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 >Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ >https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman2 issue - "Your message was rejected"
Hi, Since the email can be sent as expected with the same configuration for another ML, I think there is no problem in the header. Anyway, I will check it again. Besides, Are there any other suspected parts? Yuki At 2022-09-28 23:57:18, "Carl Zwanzig" wrote: >On 9/27/2022 9:16 PM, Yuki Nie wrote: >> When I send an email to a mailling list from a non-member, I got the error >> msg "Your message was rejected". >> However, the non-member has been defined in accept_these_nonmembers = >> ['test-info@xx']. >> >> >> some options: >> accept_these_nonmembers = ['test-info@xx'] > >Check the actual email headers, while the message might say it's coming from >"asdf.com", the sending server could be "mail.asdf.com" and those two are >different. May not be that exactly, look for things where the header doesn't >exactly match the accept_these_nonmembers. > >z! >-- >Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org >To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org >https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ >Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 >Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 >Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ >https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/