[Mailman-Users] Re: Search box for archives

2022-09-12 Thread Odhiambo Washington
On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 12:54 AM Mark Dale via Mailman-Users <
mailman-users@python.org> wrote:

> On Sun, 2022-09-11 at 16:58 +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
> > However, looking at the two files, I see references to:
> >
> > 
> >
> > I suppose in my case this too has to be modified to reflect the
> > correct path.
> > With my MM2 installed in /usr/local/mailman2/ the above path then
> > should become "/mailman/cgi-bin/search" ??
> >
> > When I do a search now, I end up with an error saying "The requested
> > URL was not found on this server." and the resulting URL in the
> > address bar is:
> >
> >
> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/cgi-bin/search?query=odhiambo&submit=Search%21&idxname=KICTANet&max=20&result=normal&sort=score
> >
>
>
> Firstly, check your mm_cfg.py file. In my case it is:
>
> DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'https://%s/mailman/'
>
> Note that there is no "cgi-bin" in the above URL.
>
> If that's the same for you, then yes you need to edit the new
> archtoc.html and archtocnombox.html files accordingly.
>
> There are 2 strings in each file that would need to be edited so they
> look like:
>
> 1. 
>
> 2. [How to search]
>
> Then rebuild the archive again:
>
> bin/arch --wipe 
>
> And it won't hurt to tell Namazu to re-index the archive(s):
>
> ls /var/lib/namazu/mailman | xargs $HOME/bin/mailman_index


Thank you very much for this explanation. As a matter of fact, I had missed
seeing the 2nd string (perhaps out of anxiety).
It is now working quite well, and yes, I also put the searchbox at the top
instead of the bottom.


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[Mailman-Users] Re: Search box for archives

2022-09-12 Thread Odhiambo Washington
On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 1:06 AM Mark Dale via Mailman-Users <
mailman-users@python.org> wrote:

> On Sun, 2022-09-11 at 16:58 +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
> > >
> > > And you may first want to edit those new archtoc.html and
> > > archtocnombox.html files. By default the search box is at the
> > > bottom of
> > > the page. I think it's better at the top.
> > >
> >
> >
> > Thanks for that hint. It is not documented in the HOWTO.
> >
> >
>
> It is well documented in the How-To:
>
> http://bakacsin.ki.iif.hu/~kissg/project/mailman+namazu/


The documentation is Linux-centric, I should have said, and mostly related
to an installation from the distro packages.
I am not so used to running applications from distro packages as sometimes
they are quite limiting.


> "Search ... In case of private lists this program checks if user is
> authorized to access archive content. (Note: authorization is based on
> regular membership only. Server and list administrator access rights
> are disregarded. Enabling admin staff to search archives may be subject
> of further development.) "
>
> The HOW-TO is very good. It was written in 2007 so a couple of things
> have changed (like package names). It needs VERY close attention to be
> paid to the detail that the author has taken the trouble to write. I
> wish all documentation was as good as this.
>

I agree with that.



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[Mailman-Users] Re: AT&T Blocking (was AOL list member not receiving list traffic)

2022-09-12 Thread Mailman Admin

Hi

Just another RBL testing site:
https://multirbl.valli.org/lookup/

Kind regards,
Christian Mack

Am 10.09.22 um 15:37 schrieb Julian H. Stacey:

No known instances of members reporting us as spam.


Un-realised reports are worse, where you only later discover your
domain name or an IP number has been falsely listed.

I searched for a tool to periodically run, to automatically scan
with a list of RBL providers, whether any RBL has silently listed
your domain names or numbers:
http://www.anti-abuse.org/multi-rbl-check/
https://mxtoolbox.com/blacklists.aspx
https://rspamd.com/doc/modules/rbl.html
Any recommendations ?

Opinion:
   Bad enough that some commercial companies profit by dumping their
   admin problems on the innocent far end.  Worse that the far end
   may be an unpaid organisation, so companies steal time from
   volunteer admins.  Worst are fake RBL lists, criminal libelling
   for profit http://berklix.org/~jhs/mail/sorbs/
   
   I have list members who admitted incompetence to unsubscribe

   majordomo, less with mailman.  Worse were the lazy who refused
   to learn, demanding to waste volunteer admin time for manual help.
   Procmail rules discarded their noise.  Worst were malicious faked
   reports to black listers.

Cheers,

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[Mailman-Users] Welcome E-mail Reply To

2022-09-12 Thread Omri Kalinsky

Hi guys,
    So I just recently purchased a mailman 2.1.39 hosted list from 
mailmanlists.org. I'm trying to start a mailing list for my gliding club 
where most of the membership is not terribly technologically literate 
(fortunately I am) and not big on reading directions, so I'm trying to 
keep it as simple and as least error-prone as possible for our club 
members. I have ran into 2 problems that could potentially cause a 
member to think he's sending an e-mail to the list, but actually isn't.


    Problem #1:
    One of my friends (who isn't tech savvy and doesn't read 
directions) was my guinea pig and successfully joined. The problem is he 
tried to send his first e-mail to the list by simply replying to the 
welcome e-mail, so he e-mailed my-list-requ...@mailmanlists.org and not 
my-l...@mailmanlists.org. Wouldn't surprise me if others do the same 
thing. Is there any option to change the address the welcome e-mail 
comes from? Is there any other good ways to mitigate this problem?


    The other has to do with the replying and the "nodupes" feature. So 
first, I am trying to keep the list as collaborative as possible and 
have people replying to messages to the whole list and not to the 
original sender. first_strip_reply_to is on, reply_goes_to_list is set 
to "This list" and from_is_list is set to "Munge From". So here's the 
scenario about how an e-mail that should have gone to the list actually 
just went to an individual user:

    1) Bob sends an e-mail to the list.
    2) Steve replies all (not just reply) to this e-mail. This sends it 
both to my-li...@mailmanlists.org and b...@bobs-domain.com.
    3) The "nodupes" flag on Bob's account realizes Bob will get the 
e-mail directly when Steve e-mailed b...@bobs-domain.com as part of the 
reply and the other part of the reply to my-l...@mailmanlists.org is 
stripped away (at least for Bob) so that Bob doesn't get the reply twice.
    4) Now Bob hits reply (not reply all) to the reply e-mail, but 
since the reply e-mail he received was sent directly to 
b...@bobs-domain.com and not the reply e-mail that went through 
my-li...@mailmanlists.org the reply address is st...@steves-domain.com, 
not my-l...@mailmanlists.org.
    5) The reply to the reply is now just addressed to Steve, not the 
whole list!
    I couldn't find any combination of first_strip_reply_to, 
reply_goes_to_list and from_is_list to make this problem go away and 
keep everyone on the list regardless of reply or reply all. The 
anonymous_list option solves it, but then it strips the original 
sender's name (not just their e-mail address) and I don't want that. 
Keeping "Bob via my-list (my-l...@mailmanlists.org)" without 
b...@bobs-domain.com in the Cc, From fields or anywhere else would be 
ideal, but I can't figure out how to make that happen. Anybody have any 
ideas?


Thanks!
    Omri
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