[Mailman-Users] max value of mailman2

2022-02-15 Thread kukyayuni--- via Mailman-Users
Hi

I would like to know the MAX values listed below for mailman2.
Is there any document that explains them?

Is there a limit to the number of mailing lists that can be created in mailman2?
What is the maximum number of recipients that can be registered to a single 
mailing list created by mailman2?
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[Mailman-Users] Re: max value of mailman2

2022-02-15 Thread Bill Cole

On 2022-02-15 at 04:19:31 UTC-0500 (Tue, 15 Feb 2022 09:19:31 -)
kukyayuni--- via Mailman-Users 
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Hi

I would like to know the MAX values listed below for mailman2.
Is there any document that explains them?


The best place to look for Mailman2 answers is wiki.list.org. Such as:

https://wiki.list.org/DOC/What%20is%20the%20largest%20list%20Mailman%20can%20run%3F?

Is there a limit to the number of mailing lists that can be created in 
mailman2?
What is the maximum number of recipients that can be registered to a 
single mailing list created by mailman2?


See the above link. It describes a number of cases of lagre Mailman2 
deployments.


There are no arbitrarily-imposed limits on the number of lists or the 
number of users per list. You can run into serious performance problems 
as the number of list members increases, due to the way Python 'pickle' 
files are used. If you throw enough memory, fast enough storage, and 
enough cpu cores at Mailman, it can scale to hundreds of thousands of 
users and hundreds of lists, but you may not be pleased with the 
resources required to get good performance at scale.


Mailman is designed for discussion lists more than it is for high-volume 
announcement/marketing lists. It takes significant MTA and backend 
tuning to mail more than a few thousand users in a reasonable amount of 
time, and Mailman is not always the right choice for that.


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[Mailman-Users] Re: max value of mailman2

2022-02-15 Thread Mailman-admin
Hello

Am 15.02.22 um 10:19 schrieb kukyayuni--- via Mailman-Users:
> 
> I would like to know the MAX values listed below for mailman2.
> Is there any document that explains them?
> 
> Is there a limit to the number of mailing lists that can be created in 
> mailman2?
> What is the maximum number of recipients that can be registered to a single 
> mailing list created by mailman2?

There is no limit for maximum number of mailing lists.
You need enough disk space for settings and archives on your system.
And your system has to be able to cope with the traffic.

There is no limit for maximum members of one list.
It all depends on your system and its network capabilities.
As long as you have enough network bandwidth for sending to those
members in a timely fashion everything is well.


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[Mailman-Users] Moderation bit not working?

2022-02-15 Thread billy noah
I continue to receive alerts on my list for *one particular user *when they
attempt to post to the list:

> *post from i...@example.com  requires approval*
>

The user has been added to the member list with the moderation toggle off.
As far as I can tell they are identical to other members that don't trigger
this alert and who's messages are automatically sent to the list.

Is there some additional step I need to take to allow this member to send
messages to the list without the need to approve them? Any ideas what might
be going wrong here?
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[Mailman-Users] Re: Moderation bit not working?

2022-02-15 Thread Mark Sapiro

On 2/15/22 07:16, billy noah wrote:

I continue to receive alerts on my list for *one particular user *when they
attempt to post to the list:


*post from i...@example.com  requires approval*




Both the notice to the admin and the admindb UI should give a reason for 
the hold - there are several possibilities other than `Post to moderated 
list` What is the reason?


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[Mailman-Users] Re: Moderation bit not working?

2022-02-15 Thread billy noah
The reason is:

Reason:  Post by non-member to a members-only list
>

Which is clearly wrong. I've double and triple checked and this person is
definitely a member.


On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 7:37 PM Mark Sapiro  wrote:

> On 2/15/22 07:16, billy noah wrote:
> > I continue to receive alerts on my list for *one particular user *when
> they
> > attempt to post to the list:
> >
> >> *post from i...@example.com  requires approval*
> >>
>
>
> Both the notice to the admin and the admindb UI should give a reason for
> the hold - there are several possibilities other than `Post to moderated
> list` What is the reason?
>
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[Mailman-Users] Re: Moderation bit not working?

2022-02-15 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 2/15/2022 4:41 PM, billy noah wrote:

The reason is:

Reason:  Post by non-member to a members-only list
Which is clearly wrong. I've double and triple checked and this person is
definitely a member.


Often this happens when email addresses slightly differ, such as 
"c...@mail.domain.com" vs "c...@domain.com". Take a close look the sender's 
actual email address in the logs and what's in the mailing list.


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[Mailman-Users] Re: Moderation bit not working?

2022-02-15 Thread Mark Sapiro

On 2/15/22 16:41, billy noah wrote:

The reason is:

Reason:  Post by non-member to a members-only list




Which is clearly wrong. I've double and triple checked and this person is
definitely a member.



Is the member address the same as the address she's posting from. They 
must be identical except for case. I.e., u...@example.com and 
u...@mail.example.com are different. Also u...@mac.com and u...@me.com 
are different, but the latter difference can be ignored by putting 
`mac.com,me.com` in Privacy options... -> Sender filters -> 
equivalent_domains in Mailman >= 2.1.19.


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[Mailman-Users] Re: Moderation bit not working?

2022-02-15 Thread billy noah
Sorry, the reason I cited earlier must have been from before they were
added and approved. Apparently the reason has changed to "Message has
implicit destination" which I'm guessing it's due to BCC. I changed
"require_explicit_destination" to "No".  Thanks for your help.

On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 8:16 PM Mark Sapiro  wrote:

> On 2/15/22 16:41, billy noah wrote:
> > The reason is:
> >
> > Reason:  Post by non-member to a members-only list
> >>
> >
> > Which is clearly wrong. I've double and triple checked and this person is
> > definitely a member.
>
>
> Is the member address the same as the address she's posting from. They
> must be identical except for case. I.e., u...@example.com and
> u...@mail.example.com are different. Also u...@mac.com and u...@me.com
> are different, but the latter difference can be ignored by putting
> `mac.com,me.com` in Privacy options... -> Sender filters ->
> equivalent_domains in Mailman >= 2.1.19.
>
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[Mailman-Users] Re: Moderation bit not working?

2022-02-15 Thread Mark Sapiro

On 2/15/22 17:53, billy noah wrote:

Sorry, the reason I cited earlier must have been from before they were
added and approved. Apparently the reason has changed to "Message has
implicit destination" which I'm guessing it's due to BCC. I changed
"require_explicit_destination" to "No".  Thanks for your help.


If it is in fact a BCC, and you want to accept it, You did the right 
thing. However it could be the case the your user is sending posts to an 
alternate address. E.g, the list is l...@example.com, but mail to 
l...@mail.example.com will also be delivered to the list. For this 
example, adding l...@mail.example.com to the list's Privacy options... 
-> Recipient filters -> acceptable_aliases may be a better solution.


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