[Mailman-Users] Re: {Spam?} in subject lines.

[Christian Buser via Mailman-Users]

Good morning 

This can be inserted by ANY server between the sender and the recipient. You 
have, afaik, no chance to find out which server this was. And I think it 
wouldn’t help anyway since you cannot take influence on the way which the 
messages travels. 

Christian

Hello Adam Morris. On Wed, 8 Dec 2021 17:10:13 +1100, you wrote:
> Hi all,
> I realised I asked about this recently.
> on lists I run I don't have this appearing in subject lines where 
> messages are sent from g mail and other domains.
> For a list I don't run messages sent from g mail and other providers 
> have this in the subject line.
> Wondering what settings need changing on the list this is happening with?
> TIA.
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[Mailman-Users] The Microsoft saga continues

[Jayson Smith]

Hi,


Last evening I received an Email from "Hotmail deliverability support" 
indicating they'd implemented mitigation for my IP, and that it could 
take up to twenty-four hours for it to propagate through their systems. 
When this has happened before, it has never taken anywhere near that 
long for me to be able to send Emails again. Now over ten hours later 
I'm still unable to send Emails to Hotmail/Live/MSN/Outlook. Normally I 
might think it might actually be taking this long this time, except for 
the fact that their so-called (probably automated) initial investigation 
didn't find anything wrong at their end, and yet I was still block listed.



Has anyone else seen this from Microsoft. Does anyone know if they 
perhaps sometimes block entire subnets? I have to think whatever's going 
on is probably bigger than me E.G. they mitigated my IP (even though 
they couldn't find anything wrong) but something in the bigger picture 
is still insisting I be block listed? This is getting really old, really 
fast.



Thanks for any thoughts,


Jayson


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[Mailman-Users] Re: {Spam?} in subject lines.

[Barry S. Finkel]

Yes.  Some subscriber to the list receives a message from
the list, and that recipient's Mail user Agent thinks that
the message might be spam, so that MUA adds "[Spam?]"
to the Subject" line.  If that recipient then replies to the
list, that new Subject: line will appear in his/her reply.
Mailman has no method for changing the Subject: line.
A subsequent recipient who replies to the list has the option
of changing the Subject: line to remove this addition.

--Barry Finkel



On 12/8/2021 2:30 AM, Christian Buser via Mailman-Users wrote:

Good morning

This can be inserted by ANY server between the sender and the recipient. You 
have, afaik, no chance to find out which server this was. And I think it 
wouldn’t help anyway since you cannot take influence on the way which the 
messages travels.

Christian

Hello Adam Morris. On Wed, 8 Dec 2021 17:10:13 +1100, you wrote:

Hi all,
I realised I asked about this recently.
on lists I run I don't have this appearing in subject lines where
messages are sent from g mail and other domains.
For a list I don't run messages sent from g mail and other providers
have this in the subject line.
Wondering what settings need changing on the list this is happening with?
TIA.


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[Mailman-Users] Re: {...} in subject lines.

[Mark Sapiro]

On 12/7/21 10:10 PM, Adam Morris wrote:

Hi all,
I realised I asked about this recently.
on lists I run I don't have this appearing in subject lines where 
messages are sent from g mail and other domains.
For a list I don't run messages sent from g mail and other providers 
have this in the subject line.

Wondering what settings need changing on the list this is happening with?



It has nothing to do with the list per se. Most likely the server that 
hosts the list you don't run is also running something like MailScanner 
 that is inserting the {spam?} in the 
Subject: of incoming mail.


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[Mailman-Users] Re: I'm on Microsoft's blocklist again!

[Julian H. Stacey]

> From: Jayson Smith 

Jayson Smith wrote:
>
> If my server were spewing 
> out spam, I ought to be hitting Spamhaus/SORBS/etc. spam traps left and 

Sorbs list the innocent to extort de-list fees  
http://www.berklix.org/~jhs/mail/sorbs/

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