[Mailman-Users] customized From handling?
I'm a member of the "Linux for blind general discussion" list (blinux-l...@redhat.com), which uses Mailman. Some time ago, the list was having problems with folks spamming members, using addresses harvested from the "From" lines of messages. So, the list admins opted to change the "From" line to simply say: > Linux for blind general discussion Although this solved the immediate problem, it also resulted in some confusion, because all postings are now anonymous by default. Is there a configuration option that would (say) result in a From line that only reveals the poster's name, but not their email address? -r -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: customized From handling?
On 11/4/21 5:48 PM, Rich Morin wrote: I'm a member of the "Linux for blind general discussion" list (blinux-l...@redhat.com), which uses Mailman. Some time ago, the list was having problems with folks spamming members, using addresses harvested from the "From" lines of messages. So, the list admins opted to change the "From" line to simply say: Linux for blind general discussion Although this solved the immediate problem, it also resulted in some confusion, because all postings are now anonymous by default. Is there a configuration option that would (say) result in a From line that only reveals the poster's name, but not their email address? Presumably, they did this by making the list anonymous. Rather than doing that, the only other configuration is to set from_is_list to Munge From. This will make the from look like Jane Doe via Linux for blind general discussion but this won't totally hide the poster's address as the original from will be placed in either CC or Reply-To depending on other settings. Also, if the original from is just something like j...@example.com without a display name and that list member also has no real name attribute on the list, the from will become jdoe--- via Linux for blind general discussion I.e. it will include the poster's username, but not the email domain. -- Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: customized From handling?
Thanks for the prompt and informative response! It sounds like the "Munge From" setting would meet their desire for spam avoidance, except that "the original From will be placed in either CC or Reply-To depending on other settings". However, I can't find this setting; can you provide a link? Meanwhile, it appears that the "remove_headers" option could be used to remove the CC and Reply-To headers. Is this correct and are there any other headers we'd need to remove? https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailman/en/latest/src/mailman/config/docs/config.html#remove-headers -r -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: customized From handling?
On 11/5/21 10:09 AM, Rich Morin wrote: Thanks for the prompt and informative response! It sounds like the "Munge From" setting would meet their desire for spam avoidance, except that "the original From will be placed in either CC or Reply-To depending on other settings". However, I can't find this setting; can you provide a link? Sorry, I assumed this was Mailman 2.1 because this list is for Mailmaqn 2.1. In Mailman 3, the settings would be under Settings->DMARC Mitigatations and would be DMARC mitigation action = Replace From: with lit address and DMARC Mitigate unconditionally = Yes Meanwhile, it appears that the "remove_headers" option could be used to remove the CC and Reply-To headers. Is this correct and are there any other headers we'd need to remove? https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailman/en/latest/src/mailman/config/docs/config.html#remove-headers No, This option only applies to headers in messages posted to usenet via the mail-> usenet gateway. There are no settings that would remove the posters address from Reply-To or CC. DMARC mitigations are intended to mitigate the effects of DMARC while still allowing Reply and Reply-All to function as they would without the mitigation. Anonymizing posts by hiding the posters address but not name has never been implemented in any form. -- Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: customized From handling?
> On Nov 5, 2021, at 10:49, Mark Sapiro wrote: > > Sorry, I assumed this was Mailman 2.1 ... Apologies for the confusion and thanks for the clarification. As a complete newbie to Mailman, I didn't even notice that there was a major revision involved :-). Looking at the headers of a recent blinux-list message, I see: > X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Meanwhile, looking at https://launchpad.net/mailman/+milestone/2.1.15, I see: > This is the final release of Mailman 2.1.15. ... So, it sounds like any feature requests should be directed to Mailman 3: https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/issues Mailman Core seems to be the best bet for this issue; I'll post there and see how the maintainers respond... -r -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: customized From handling?
On 11/5/2021 11:48 AM, Rich Morin wrote: Apologies for the confusion and thanks for the clarification. As a complete newbie to Mailman, I didn't even notice that there was a major revision involved :-). Looking at the headers of a recent blinux-list message, I see: X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Which is positively _ancient_. Meanwhile, looking athttps://launchpad.net/mailman/+milestone/2.1.15, I see: This is the final release of Mailman 2.1.15. ... Might be on launchpad, but Mailman v2 itself is at 2.1.35; there have been many features and security patches since .15. Later, z! -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: customized From handling?
> On Nov 5, 2021, at 11:52, Carl Zwanzig wrote: > > Might be on launchpad, but Mailman v2 itself is at 2.1.35; there have been > many features and security patches since .15. Yow! Seems like that web site is a bit out of date. In any event, the blinux-list admins would probably be more inclined to update within version 2.1.x (and tweak the config a bit) than to move to version 3. Where can I find the right place to post a feature request for Mailman 2.1.x? -r -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: customized From handling?
On 11/5/2021 12:02 PM, Rich Morin wrote: In any event, the blinux-list admins would probably be more inclined to update within version 2.1.x (and tweak the config a bit) than to move to version 3. For casual use, setting up mailman3 is a lot of work IMHO. Where can I find the right place to post a feature request for Mailman 2.1.x? It would be here (this list), but pretty much nobody is adding features to v2 anymore*, even security patches only happen when really needed. (I suppose though that if someone did develop a feature patch, it would be considered.) *mailman2 runs on python2, which is way past it's stated end-of-life; migrating anything from python2 to python3 is a large undertaking so the developers are concentrating on mailman3 (w/ python3). There's probably something in the wiki about this. z! not a mailman developer, just a long-time user -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
