[Mailman-Users] Web interface for users (not admins)?

[Skip Montanaro]

I've been sort of casually looking for alternatives to Google Groups.
I subscribe to and/or help administer a number of groups there. There
are a large fraction of us who only ever use the email interface.
There are others who would leave (or get out their pitchforks) if the
web interface wasn't available. A couple of the groups are fairly
large, 3000-4000 subscribers, with archives dating back ten to twenty
years. Functionally, Google Groups is fine, but  well, it's Google,
with all that implies. Most of the time everything is okay, then they
make a change to the web interface and all hell breaks loose for a
couple weeks or months until Google gets around to fixing the
breakage.

I've been keeping an eye on Groups.io (subscribed to its group
managers list). It's not free, and would cost at least $2000/year for
the bigger lists. They have a donation interface to make it easier for
list admins to solicit donations to defray costs, but it's not clear
that always works as desired. The messages to the group managers list
seem to imply GIO has various other warts as well. (It does have a
clever #hashtag-in-subject feature for tagging related messages.)

So, I got to thinking... Are there any free web user (not admin)
interfaces which integrate with MM3? Something which when combined
with MM3 could conceivably be an alternative to Google Groups, (the
now defunct) Yahoo! Groups, or Groups.io? I poked around the archives
a bit and browsed list.org for a few minutes, but turned up nothing.
Or rather, all I found related to web interfaces was the admin
interface.

Thanks,

Skip Montanaro
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[Mailman-Users] Re: Web interface for users (not admins)?

[Mark Sapiro]

On 5/6/21 1:47 PM, Skip Montanaro wrote:
> 
> So, I got to thinking... Are there any free web user (not admin)
> interfaces which integrate with MM3? Something which when combined
> with MM3 could conceivably be an alternative to Google Groups, (the
> now defunct) Yahoo! Groups, or Groups.io? I poked around the archives
> a bit and browsed list.org for a few minutes, but turned up nothing.
> Or rather, all I found related to web interfaces was the admin
> interface.


First, a better list for Mailman 3 is mailman-us...@mailman3.org
.

Mailman 3's Postorius and HyperKitty interfaces are for users as well as
admins. I don't know what you were looking at or why you think it was
for only admins, but, for example, the archives of this list including
search and reply features are at
 and
the management interface for both admins and users is at


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[Mailman-Users] Web interface for users (not admins)?

[Stephen J. Turnbull]

Hi Skip!

First, a bit of admin.  Mailman 2 is still in active use, so we've
split out a separate list for Mailman 3: mailman-us...@mailman3.org.
Subscribe at
https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.mailman3.org/
You can use several common social media to authenticate yourself.
You'll have to do the usual one-time key dance to verify your email
address (sorry!)  You will get good feedback from the users there
(better than the OP list).

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Skip Montanaro writes:

 > So, I got to thinking... Are there any free web user (not admin)
 > interfaces which integrate with MM3?

Yes.  The HyperKitty archiver, which is part of the Mailman 3 suite[1],
provides an interface for submitting posts as well as reading them,
and has a few social media features (liking posts).

 > Something which when combined with MM3 could conceivably be an
 > alternative to Google Groups, (the now defunct) Yahoo! Groups, or
 > Groups.o?

That's for your users to say. ;-)  If you visit
https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-us...@mailman3.org/
you can try it for yourself.  To post, you'll need to sign up (you can
do that with a Google account, and I think both GitHub and GitLab are
accepted as well.

 > I poked around the archives a bit and browsed list.org for a few
 > minutes, but turned up nothing.  Or rather, all I found related to
 > web interfaces was the admin interface.

HyperKitty issues mostly have to do with importing archives.  The
webservice being effectively synchronous and centralized doesn't have
a lot of problems as compared to email, and many feature suggestions
go directly to the tracker for HyperKitty.  I'm not surprised you
don't find much about HyperKitty as Web UI in the list archives.
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