[Mailman-Users] Weird no-posting no-moderation queue bouncing of posts
I have a strange, occasionally occurring phenomenon on one of my mailing lists (in Mailman 2.29) which I don't understand: 1. A subscribed address to the list tries to post a message to the list. 2. The attempted posting does not go through to the list, nor does it go to the moderation queue. Instead, I the list admin receives a message via the bounces-address with a copy of the attempted posting. 3. The bounce message looks like/similar to the bounce message that is generated when a bounce happens at one single individual subscriber's e-mail address. But in that case the list archive as well as other subscribers (including me) will get a copy of the posting. And that is not the case here. No copy to me, nothing in the archive. So the only trace I can see of the posting is the weird bounce message containing a copy of the posting. Why doesn't the attempted posting go to the moderator queue, if there is something about the subscriber or the message that prevents it from being distributed? (The list in question is unmoderated for subscribers.) Below is a copy of one of the strange bounce postings. Thomas Gramstad tho...@gramstad.no --- Begin Message --- The attached message was received as a bounce, but either the bounce format was not recognized, or no member addresses could be extracted from it. This mailing list has been configured to send all unrecognized bounce messages to the list administrator(s). For more information see: https://mailman.kunnskapsallmenning.no/mailman/admin/biblioteknorge/bounce --- Begin Message --- Vil du jobbe med litteratur, miljøarbeid, arrangementer og informasjon til unge? Vi søker bibliotekar eller andre med kompetanse innen ungdomsarbeid, informasjon og formidling til unge ved LittFri. Dette er en kultursatsing som har beliggenhet på Litteraturhuset i Fredrikstad sentrum. LittFri er en ny avdeling i virksomhet Fritid i Fredrikstad, hvor Fredrikstadbibliotekene er samarbeidspartner og har bibliotekstjeneste ved dette tilbudet. Stillingen er plassert i Seksjon for kultur, miljø og byutvikling, for tiden ved barne- og ungdomsavdelingen ved Fredrikstadbibliotekene. Les mer om stillingen her: https://www.fredrikstadbibliotek.no/?p=90079 Les mer om LittFri her: https://www.facebook.com/LittFri Vennlig hilsen Tora Camilla Klevås Biblioteksjef Kulturetaten - Biblioteket Fredrikstad kommune Mob: +4795859317 Tel: +4769375021 Web: www.fredrikstad.kommune.no Facebook: www.facebook.com/Fredrikstad.kommune Twitter: www.twitter.com/fredrikstadkomm --- End Message --- --- End Message --- -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: Weird no-posting no-moderation queue bouncing of posts
We get this fairly often with moderated lists; it’s usually because the sender’s mail client grabs the listname-bounces address from their recent addresses cache when they start typing the address in the mail composition dialog. It would be rarer with unmoderated lists, but anything that would trigger a moderation notice (for things like too many recipients, message too large, etc) will stick that address in their recent addresses list. this is the bounce notice we get when that happens: "The attached message was received as a bounce, but either the bounce format was not recognized, or no member addresses could be extracted from it. This mailing list has been configured to send all unrecognized bounce messages to the list administrator(s)." There wasn’t a copy of your bounce on this posting. On Feb 26, 2021, at 10:21 AM, Thomas Gramstad mailto:tho...@gramstad.no>> wrote: I have a strange, occasionally occurring phenomenon on one of my mailing lists (in Mailman 2.29) which I don't understand: 1. A subscribed address to the list tries to post a message to the list. 2. The attempted posting does not go through to the list, nor does it go to the moderation queue. Instead, I the list admin receives a message via the bounces-address with a copy of the attempted posting. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: Weird no-posting no-moderation queue bouncing of posts
On 2/26/2021 11:21 AM, Thomas Gramstad wrote: I have a strange, occasionally occurring phenomenon on one of my mailing lists (in Mailman 2.29) which I don't understand: 1. A subscribed address to the list tries to post a message to �� the list. 2. The attempted posting does not go through to the list, nor �� does it go to the moderation queue. Instead, I the list admin �� receives a message via the bounces-address with a copy of the �� attempted posting. 3. The bounce message looks like/similar to the bounce message �� that is generated when a bounce happens at one single �� individual subscriber's e-mail address. But in that case the �� list archive as well as other subscribers (including me) �� will get a copy of the posting. And that is not the case here. �� No copy to me, nothing in the archive. So the only trace I can see of the posting is the weird bounce message containing a copy of the posting. Why doesn't the attempted posting go to the moderator queue, if there is something about the subscriber or the message that prevents it from being distributed? (The list in question is unmoderated for subscribers.) Below is a copy of one of the strange bounce postings. Thomas Gramstad tho...@gramstad.no ��� It appears, if I read the RFC 5322 mail headers correctly, that the original mail was sent to LISTNAME-bounces instead of to LISTNAME: From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Klev=E5s_Tora_Camilla?= To: Biblioteknorge Subject: Ledig stilling - Fredrikstad bibliotek - LittFri - et tilb ... And, of course, this mail is not a bounce message that the bounce processor can parse. --Barry Finkel -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: Weird no-posting no-moderation queue bouncing of posts
On 2/26/21 12:21 PM, Thomas Gramstad wrote: So the only trace I can see of the posting is the weird bounce message containing a copy of the posting. Why doesn't the attempted posting go to the moderator queue, if there is something about the subscriber or the message that prevents it from being distributed? (The list in question is unmoderated for subscribers.) It is because you have "Should Mailman send you, the list owner, any bounce messages that failed to be detected by the bounce processor? /Yes/ is recommended." set to yes in your Bounce Processing settings. You may need to educate your list members on how to correctly post to your list. -- Brian Carpenter Harmonylists.com Emwd.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
